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Thicket Tundrabog
12-09-2004, 03:16 PM
Here's a quote about the United States.

Quote

In an article, "Canada and the Pax Americana", Holmes writes that the US is "the heart of a neo-imperialist system, involved all over the world through alliances, treaties, and understandings, most of them ambiguous like the Monroe doctrine." (p. 73) He goes on that the "Pax Americana is an effort to maintain or, as some would say, impose, a world order favorable to the interests of the United States, but assumed to be favourable also to the interests of others." (p. 74)

Though fundamentally sympathetic to US policies, Holmes writes that United States policies "are largely unilateral. It [the US] informs its allies but does not consult them. As for international organizations, it will accept their judgements or use their procedures if it wills to do so but not otherwise. It is prepared to make a battleground of other countries to maintain the balance of power in its favour. As its military strength grows, there is a danger of domination by an industrial, military clique with a simplistic view of right and wrong. It has, along with glorious democratic traditions, a tradition of force. Americans can be inebriated by the Battle Hymn of the Republic, a magnificent tune for an iniquitous song. Those who think that their eyes have seen the glory and they have acquired a mandate from heaven to keep the truth marching on need watching."

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Some will think that this quote is tailored for the current issues in Iraq, relational problems with allies, and balking of international agreements and organizations such as Kyoto accord, the United Nations, and the World Court. It's interesting that this was written in 1969.

Reference [John W. Holms, "Canada and the Pax Americana," in (eds) Harvey L. Dyck and H. Peter Krosby, Empire and Nation, Toronto, University of Toronto Press, 1969, pp. 73-90]

Thicket

vestix
12-09-2004, 10:39 PM
The 600 pound gorilla sleeps wherever it wants to.

Until a bigger gorilla comes around...

B_Delacroix
12-10-2004, 08:36 AM
Isn't intentionally stirring the pot otherwise known as trolling?

Stormhaven
12-10-2004, 08:47 AM
<font color="red"><b>Sorry Thicket, your attempt to stir the pot has failed!</b></font>

Try to mention one (or more) of these next time: God, religion, personal rights/freedom, gender rights, abortion, Pres. Bush, gay marriage, or the death penalty.

Try again next time! :cheers:

Araxx Darkroot
12-10-2004, 09:12 AM
I don't get it, what's wrong with the quote?

Thicket Tundrabog
12-10-2004, 10:52 AM
I guess I should have picked something controversial :lol:

Jinjre
12-10-2004, 10:55 AM
Try to mention one (or more) of these next time: God, religion, personal rights/freedom, gender rights, abortion, Pres. Bush, gay marriage, or the death penalty.

And don't forget to compare whatever group of people who are your target to Hitler and/or the Nazis and/or Facism. That helps a lot. /nod.

Stormhaven
12-10-2004, 11:15 AM
Anyone who tries to place limits on abortion is a fascist Nazi who is just trying to jump on Bush's bandwagon to limit personal freedoms! Whatever gay activist group you're trying to protect is probably for sentencing the mother to a death penalty when she's not ready to have a child because she's in med school!

...and you kill puppies too.

Panamah
12-10-2004, 11:56 AM
Hmmm...

I can think of a controversy that doesn't involve any of Stormhaven's suggestions.

Why the heck are men so afraid of the color pink?

Jinjre
12-10-2004, 12:13 PM
If they wear pink, they're "girly men". Ask Arnie.

Araxx Darkroot
12-10-2004, 12:50 PM
So if women wear pants they're manly girls?

Thicket Tundrabog
12-10-2004, 01:09 PM
Pink reminds me of Pepto Bismol ----- yeuchhh... and the pink elephants I used to see as a young chap after imbibing too much.

Stormhaven
12-10-2004, 01:11 PM
I'm not a man and I hate pink (just think it's a nasty looking color). Go to a golf store and you'll see tons of pink shirts for guys (they don't call it pink, like washed out red, but blah blah).

Araxx Darkroot
12-10-2004, 01:31 PM
There used to be this 'color therapy' in a school somewhere. If you misbehaved and were still angry, violent, or whatever, you were put in the pink room. It was said to calm you down. Now, if that person ahd been put in a red room he would have remained angry and violent.
Hence, pink is for pacifists... and girly men. :p

Panamah
12-10-2004, 02:19 PM
There are some lovely shades of pink. I'm not a huge fan of it myself though. I like pink roses and pink flowers in general, but real flowers... not on wall paper! The only way I'd wear pink is if I were trying to be campy. Although, I do have a bright pink fleece top now that I think of it... and a light pink turtle neck. Hmm... I own more pink than I own up to. :)

Stormhaven
12-10-2004, 02:26 PM
Only pink I own are those unfortunate pieces of clothing which had a bad meeting with Mr. Bleach.

Anka
12-10-2004, 02:41 PM
Pink is a difficult colour for many people, especially those who aren't even brave enough for green and yellow. At least nowadays they can hide away in just one colour and pretend to be a goth.

jtoast
12-10-2004, 04:44 PM
*shrug* I like pink.


I would never wear it of course......

Panamah
12-10-2004, 06:00 PM
I would never wear it of course......

Ah! Here's the person I'm looking for. Why do you say you'd never wear it?

Aidon
12-11-2004, 05:51 AM
Hmmm...

I can think of a controversy that doesn't involve any of Stormhaven's suggestions.

Why the heck are men so afraid of the color pink?

Pink is just fine...so long as its called Salmon.

Panamah
12-11-2004, 11:12 AM
Fear of the word pink... hmmm... wonder what the latin term is for that. :D

Araxx Darkroot
12-11-2004, 06:47 PM
Pinkus Horrorificus...

Nimchip
12-11-2004, 07:23 PM
One of my shirts is pink-ish, and i use it to go out to the local pub and stuff. I think it's nice lol, and it doesn't look "girlish" or that other dreaded word that could cause controversy here. :D