I have evocation as my main specialization.

Which would be better for healing, getting AHG 1,2 and 3 or Secondary Forte in Alteration? I think either will cost 9 AA.

Already have AHA? if not get that. Otherwise i'd say AHG.

Aye, I already have AHA.

I'd say go for forte - cheaper heals is better than those fickle crits (am I the only one who notices that heals in some oow zones crit less? I have AHG3)

Nice to hear someone else say that about crit heals. I have always been thinking that the chance of a crit heal really not worth it or something to depend on. If I am i a CH loop I can't DEPEND on my crit landing... etc. But maybe in a long CH chain and/or over time it is really worth it. Possibly SoE thinks it would be too mana efficient for a druid to have better. Don't know. But that's why I never got AHG before. Plus I think I can do more damage with DD in some instances with less mana and avoid some of the heal mana drain.

However... since I think I am at the point that I think I need one of these because I do get low on mana when doing CH loop etc on raid.... I'd like more opinions based on peeps exp.

1) if you're doing a ch rot on raids your guild is retarded.
2) kr/tr don't crit. Ever.

1) if you're doing a ch rot on raids your guild is retarded.

Slightly sweeping statement. Ive been put into chains in Time many times because there havent been enough clerics on. You expect them to call off a raid because there is 1 too few clerics yet 5 available druids?

1) if you're doing a ch rot on raids your guild is retarded.
2) kr/tr don't crit. Ever.

You're right about the KR/TR not critting. Wasn't thinking while I was typing that. But even on non "complete heals", is the chance of a crit heal really saving much mana?

And what's wrong with being in a CH loop?

If I recall, Secondary Forte has now been "fixed" so that the second specialization is maxed at 100, as was originally intended?

If so, the difference is from a specialization of 50 to one of 100? If at 200, the mana savings is 10%, then at 100, the mana savings would be 5%? So, the actual change to mana savings is 2.5-3% or something? (Casting a 500 mana spell straight up would save you 12.5 additional mana? [I used a difference of 2.5% because the math was EASY!] Mana adds up, sure, but not very fast, really, especially not when spells take 500 mana, or more for the OoW heal.)

It's always good to save mana, but... I'm not sure the cost (9AA now) would put that at a high priority to me unless I'd finished off a whole lot of other AA first.

I'd put the OoW Healing Adept AND AHG first, personally. I like crit heals. I don't count on them, but I enjoy eye candy as much as the next druid.

1) if you're doing a ch rot on raids your guild is retarded.


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If you are doing a lot of CH casting, due to being in a chain or whatever, switching to Tunare's will save you 200 mana per cast. I switched this up a while back when some of our clerics quit and I got thrown into the chain. I was only very rarely landing a KR for more than 4k, and since I can do almost 3500 with Tunare, so it was an easy choice to make. Most of my CH's still don't land for full anyway.

As a druid, Healing Gift isn't worth the AA when you are lower in levels/AA or content. As you progess, you'll start seeing more effect since you will probably be using primarily your fast heals. But in order for a druid to get the same sort of use out of the AA that, say, a cleric does, it would have to work on a lot more spells. Spell Casting Fury works on AE spells, including rains and PBAE, as well as DD nukes. Gift, to have the same sort of effect (and it costs the same) would have to work on our group heals (which we don't have) and our CH spell line as well. Adept is much more useful. Wish we had a nuking AA that worked like that. =)

I have Secondary Forte and as an evocation druid, I like it a lot. You might only spend a tad less mana, but it's not just on heals, either, it's all your alteration spells.

I recommend loading both TR and KR for a chain, and having a separate hotkey for each. That way you can use KR when you have the mana for it, and TR if mana is being used too quickly.

^ good advice... having been on a few Xeg CH rot chains for 30 minutes plus of casting CHs, having both loaded and able to have CH rot hotkey for both is pretty much the only way a "normal" Druid is gonna last on that encounter.

KR just cost to much darn mana to keep up with the Clerics and as was also posted above - if the CH rot is tight, most likely your CH won't land for full effect and TR will be fine.