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Ajjantis
03-12-2005, 08:44 PM
Not only go the class re-balances live, lots of old world mobs going to get upgraded. No more Trakanon or Venril Sathir soloing...
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/newspells.html?source=Test&date=2005-03-12%2000:35:20

Dont know if this is temporary or will remain forever in game.


EDIT: Adding link to class-rebalance page
http://eqforums.station.sony.com/eq/board/message?board.id=brenlo&message.id=46&no_redir=true

Netura
03-13-2005, 05:37 PM
I can't believe its been nearly a year since Fabled items were put in the game (and removed)....time sure does fly!

Xexv
03-13-2005, 06:03 PM
Do you suppose there will be a similar celebration for the 6th year? I hope something nice is planned for those of us who stuck it out and didn't leave under horrid customer realtions issues. :blow:

Netura
03-13-2005, 07:17 PM
I don't know for sure, but I definately do hope so.

Mannwin Woobie
03-14-2005, 07:37 AM
Of course I can't get to those sites from work :( Can you give a brief recap of what the "ouch" is? Or are there too many things to list?

Vekx
03-14-2005, 09:23 AM
Okay, I know I'm slow but all I see is a list of spells from one link and a worthless post in the other link. What exactly are you trying to say here?

Ajjantis
03-14-2005, 09:45 AM
Of course I can't get to those sites from work :( Can you give a brief recap of what the "ouch" is? Or are there too many things to list?
Sure ;-)

Okay, I know I'm slow but all I see is a list of spells from one link and a worthless post in the other link. What exactly are you trying to say here?

Reading is your friend. First off i think they changing the kunark dragons/bosses. You know any decent equipped druid can solo Talendor, Gorenaire, Trakanon etc? This is no longer then, if you would have bothered to check the new spells those dragons get, you could see they get upgraded. After the patch Trakanon for example will have:

Slot Description
1: Stun(6.00 sec)
2: Blindness(1)


Mana: 0 Casting Time: 0
Recast Time: 25 Fizzle Time: 0
Resist: Unresistable Range: 0
Location: Any Time of Day: Any
AE Range: 15 Interruptable: Yes
Short Buff Box: No Target Type: Targeted AE

Might point to"Unresistable"

His new AoE, IF it lands is absolutaly deadly:

Trakanon's Poisonous Breath Detail | History | Stacking | Raw Data


Slot Description
1: Increase Poison Counter by 75
2: Decrease Hitpoints by 500 per tick
3: Decrease HP when cast by 2400
4: Decrease Mana by 50 per tick
5: Decrease Endurance by 50 per tick


Mana: 0 Casting Time: 0
Recast Time: 35 Fizzle Time: 0
Resist: Poison Resist Adjust: -325



Lets switch Targets; Venril Sathir
He seems to get a new lifetap, yes also unresistable.

Bond of Venril Sathir Detail | History | Stacking | Raw Data


Slot Description
3: Hitpoints unknown calc: 122 range: 1 -> 0


Mana: 0 Casting Time: 0
Recast Time: 10 Fizzle Time: 0
Resist: Unresistable Range: 200



All i was trying to say, these mobs seem to get upgraded, kinda like a "fabled" status and prolly new loot tables, not sure what exactly is going on but something is changing.

Now lets go to the "worthless" post.


Sometimes things just don't go as you plan. Today for example, I had hoped to post two big things. Well it's just about the end of the day and unfortunately I won't be getting them out the door today. One is delayed as it goes through the approval process, which depending on the schedules of folks here can sometimes take longer than expected. It can be even longer on a week where members of the company are traveling, like this week with folks at GDC (Game Developers Conference). The other is delayed because of last minute changes (positive changes, but changes that are not so final at this moment that I can post them). So the class changes will wait until Monday, but they will be up Monday. There is some good stuff in there. Some changes we want to make (wait until Monday before you ask Loral) and some for you to discuss with us. Monday should be a pretty exciting day for all of us, provided I can actually drag myself our of bed after a rip roaring weekend of yardwork and gaming. I finally picked up GTA San Andreas and plan to play that a little this weekend (maybe a lot if I can get the kids to do the yardwork). I have to wait and play that one after ******s go to bed though (or while they are mowing). Darn rated M games.

Next week EQ turns 6 years old. Wow. It is hard to believe that this game has been a part of my life for so long. This game and you ornery curs (just kidding you are not all ornery) Hehe. 6 years that I would not trade except for maybe 2 millions dollars and someone to do my yardwork this weekend. I also have to paint the bathroom. Can I do that with MS Paint? Anyhow, I think that while many of you feel anger and frustration, I think it is safe to say that it has not kept you around for 6 years. So take a look back and reflect on what has. This game, this hobby, this phenomenon has been a part of our lives for a while now, and that's pretty special. While I have other games that I have not finished after 6 years ( I will beat you yet Mario Bros!) none has entertained us in the way that this one has. That's what it all boils down to in the end, entertainment. Yes, our friends and our characters play a part in it, but friends are around to share the entertainment with (movies are always better shared with friends unless they talk the whole time or give away the end, like someone who shall remain nameless that said to me as "A movie which shall remain nameless so as not to spoil it for others" started, "You know, I bet he is dead") and characters are the vehicle for that entertainment. The strong lead character that we get attached to. Like one of my favorites, Han Solo, you have to love that guy, although some of you might be more attached to Obi Wan, or Luke and that's okay. Just like our classes there is something for everyone. While we may get a little ticked when someone messes with the characters we love so much (Han Solo should shoot first Darn It!) it does not change the fact that it is still entertaining and even that change, liked or disliked, keeps us talking and enjoying the movie, tv show or game.

Something to think about over the weekend while you flame me for not having the post up today, and some of you will. But sometimes, things are out of my control. Although the stop at Starbucks on the way home is well within my control, well maybe not. I am carpooling with Ashlanne. Hey Ash, Can we stop at Starbucks? What? No I don't have a Mercedes! Why?


Message Edited by Brenlo on 03-11-2005 06:45 PM

Brenlo Bixiebopper
Community Relations Manager

Monday Brenlo will post about the new class re-balances, some classes will get some changes. If thats worthless to you i suggest you to change the class or better stop playing the game, i for one care what will happen to us and the other classes.

Moklianne
03-14-2005, 10:05 AM
I like the pre-emptive disclaimer he put in. "Not in the face! Not in the face!" I have a feeling a class or two will be pretty mad, I just hope it isn't ours.

Vekx
03-14-2005, 10:08 AM
Good attack on me. But I wasn't attacking you. Just asking for clerification of what you meant. Now if you had posted all this the first time it would have been great!!

I didn't realize that some of these spells were for NPC's. Yes it's because I stopped reading after the cleric spells and just thought the rest were not assigned a class yet or just test stuff.

""Monday Brenlo will post about the new class re-balances, some classes will get some changes. If thats worthless to you i suggest you to change the class or better stop playing the game, i for one care what will happen to us and the other classes.""

Wow. When I said worthless I was talking about the article NOT giving us any info... not anything you posted. What I meant was that the article tells us nothing. Sure I care about my class and all calsses and the game. But I'm sure that even if the druid class is left behind (again, in many peeps eyes) I'll still be playing.

I will wait to see what they do to class-balance. I'm sure some will be happy and some will not. Even within the same class, a change to class_x will make one class_x player happy and another angry. All depends on play style. Do I think they will do anything to help my druid along? No. Prolly more banishment spells or something. (I need to write a post about who uses those and where/when). And today is Monday )

Arienne
03-14-2005, 11:04 AM
Do you suppose there will be a similar celebration for the 6th year? I hope something nice is planned for those of us who stuck it out and didn't leave under horrid customer realtions issues. :blow:I heard that they are adding a new title to honor those who have.

"Martyr" :)

Netura
03-14-2005, 12:21 PM
I thought the new title was going to be "addict" :p

Ajjantis
03-14-2005, 04:52 PM
Good attack on me. But I wasn't attacking you. Just asking for clerification of what you meant. Now if you had posted all this the first time it would have been great!!

I didn't realize that some of these spells were for NPC's. Yes it's because I stopped reading after the cleric spells and just thought the rest were not assigned a class yet or just test stuff.


Sorry man but i was offended by your first post, you could have asked/said it somewhat nicer.

Panamah
03-14-2005, 05:00 PM
I heard that they are adding a new title to honor those who have.

"Martyr" :)

Lifer :rolling:

Gaminide
03-14-2005, 06:47 PM
Well, if the above is true, then there goes the easy raid targets for the mid lvl guilds. (46-65).

I wonder when they are going to do /betabuff so that any newbie can get to 65... 70
at this rate why would anyone want to do the exp grind to 65 is byond me. There is no-one <60 in my server. Measures like the above ain't helping.

Ajjantis
03-14-2005, 08:35 PM
Well, if the above is true, then there goes the easy raid targets for the mid lvl guilds. (46-65).

I wonder when they are going to do /betabuff so that any newbie can get to 65... 70
at this rate why would anyone want to do the exp grind to 65 is byond me. There is no-one <60 in my server. Measures like the above ain't helping.

While i have not seen any mid lvl guild for ages on my server i still think there are some out. Just to compare trakanons old AoE with his New one.
Old:

Poison Breath
Classes:
None
Description:
1: Increase Poison Counter by 9
2: Decrease Hitpoints by 150 per tick
3: Decrease HP when cast by 1200



-------------------------------------------------------------------------

New:

Trakanon's Poisonous Breath Detail | History | Stacking | Raw Data


Slot Description
1: Increase Poison Counter by 75
2: Decrease Hitpoints by 500 per tick
3: Decrease HP when cast by 2400
4: Decrease Mana by 50 per tick
5: Decrease Endurance by 50 per tick


But since eq is becoming 6 years old i think this is just temporary :D