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Fenier
11-30-2005, 03:40 PM
http://eqforums.station.sony.com/eq/board/message?board.id=Veterans&message.id=145372&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

Thread in which the Orginal Poster pushes for unlocking every keyed zone 2 years after creation, ranging from VP - Txevu.

Personally, given the insane amount of ways to access 90 percent of that content now, I don't see the need and pretty much totally disagree.

I am totally of the mind the end zone for each expansion should stay keyed - if it was to begin with, gives you a sense of purpose for working in that expansion.

In Terms of a Key such as Vex Thal, you are forced to experiance ALOT of the content Luclin has to offers, that otherwise most people would probly ignore totally.

-Fenier

Kamion
11-30-2005, 04:38 PM
I always find it funny how people "just want to see VT." They want to see it because it's something special, but it's something special because not everyone can see it. So wouldn't opening it up defear the purpose anyways?

Dayuna
11-30-2005, 04:42 PM
It's more of the attitude that makes me want to walk up to them and say in the most sarcastic voice ever "HEAVEN FORBID you ACTUALLY have to WORK to get into somewhere!" I like the idea behind keyed zones. If you can get the key, you're probably able to survive in the zone. If they ever opened up KT I'd bet all we'd hear is 'NERF KT! Mobs there hit too hard omg!' The old key quests are easy with the improved quality of gear thats in common use. The only real hard part is the time involved in doing them.

In Terms of a Key such as Vex Thal, you are forced to experiance ALOT of the content Luclin has to offers, that otherwise most people would probly ignore totally.
I really enjoyed the VT key quest for that reason. I can see how flagging multiple toons could be a hassle, but honestly, it's not that hard of a quest these days.

Kamion
11-30-2005, 04:55 PM
I've gonet back and got keys for zones just to see them a few times... ie old vp, howling stones, sleeper's. Few months after I got the vp key though some guildies and me started xping there (before revamp), I forget how the xp was, but it was almost comparable to POE or so.

Tenielle
11-30-2005, 05:25 PM
agreed.

I got my vt key just last year. anything I could get there would be less than half as good as what I have now, but there was a certain fascination with not being able to enter the zone as a young druid and hearing about all the uber guilds raiding vt (I remember drooling over talisman of vah kerrath). I invested a lot of time along with a few other motivated guildees and we did the quests and emp, then raided vt beginning to end.

there's a certain mystique that would be comprimised if this were to happen.

Fenier
11-30-2005, 05:42 PM
Well lets look at differant Keys:

HS: You need to experiance, at minimum, Keasora, No Hope, and Ill Omen just to quest the key, then Overthere and HS itself.

Seb: Reguardless of the fact that the key parts are in the same zone, you are forced to experiance EJ/No Hope, then TT, and finally Sebilis

VP: Either HS (see above), Seb (see above) and Chardok + Skyfire, OR Trak's Teeth, Seb (see above), No Hope, FV, DL, Karnor, Ill Omen, Chardok, Warlisk's Woods, Skyfire and VP (IE, nearly everything in Kunark).

ST: You are require to visit either West Wastes/ToV/DN (Requiring at minimum CS, SG and WW) Kael (WL or GD/EW), or Velks (GD/Velks) for Keys. The Turn-in is in DN and then you need to travel to EW (GD/EW or IC/EW) to zone in - Again, a large portion of Velious.

Emporer: While Lame, you see most of Ssra Temple

Arx Key: Most of Seru and Katta

VT: Nearly every zone not previousy covered by the previous two keys and some that have been becuase you will travel through some zones to reach shard areas.

Time (non gimp), The Entire PoP Expansion

Txevu (non gimp), Excluding Sewers, you will probly see the vast majority of GoD even today. Zones like Uqua and Inktu'ta I think, where lots of fun.

Anguish: You will see most of Omens while camping Signets, the only zone I can think of you can avoid is Noble's Causway.

Dreadspire: You will see every non-instanced zone in DoDH while doing this key

I am not 100 percent positive of what is required for Demiplane access but since it builds on Dreadspire access, the same holds true.

LDoN/LoY and DoN didn't really have locked zones (Nest is open once Yar'Lir is killed on each server) The Raids to request various instances in DoN requires doing missions, but the static zones are open to all reguardless once Yar'Lir dies.

In each case the Key provides some sizable portion in either camps, travel or what have you, that the player will experiance by doing that key, which, I am assuming, is as much of a reason for making the key in the first place.

-Fenier

Yakk
11-30-2005, 05:50 PM
Keep the keys for keyed zones.

Make the keys gradually easier to get (have the component drop rate/quest mob spawn rate increase as the months and years pass).

Increase the rate at which obsolete content drops rewards (if not the quality).

The result is the "casual" raiders can consume the content quicker (in terms of in-game time), but not in terms of real-life time.

Voila. More people are encouraged to experience the content.

Alternatively, they could code the creatures to get weaker as time goes on, opening ancient content to smaller and smaller raids and eventually to single groups.

The goal here is content reuse -- rather than having SOE redesign new content, make old content consumeable by new players. This increases the number of subscription-weeks of entertainment the content produces, making SOE's content production more efficient, and giving every player more content to consume.

On the minus side, after a zone becomes obsolete to you, other people might be able to use it more.

To a certain extent, all of this happens with increased player power as expansions go by. Unfortunetally the increased player power also obsoletes the rewards from the zone. By increasing the rate at which items drop, the reward for people who haven't been there increases and encourages people who otherwise wouldn't bother with the keying up process to go for it.

Dayuna
11-30-2005, 06:06 PM
Drop rates are fine considering how just baz gear these days is equal to Luclin raid gear. It's really easy to get more drops with better gear and faster killing. Most pre-PoP content is 1-groupable (or less for the raiding players). Demiplane access forces you to see raid instances and non-instanced Dreadspire.

Fenier
11-30-2005, 06:09 PM
Drop rates are fine considering how just baz gear these days is equal to Luclin raid gear. It's really easy to get more drops with better gear and faster killing. Most pre-PoP content is 1-groupable (or less for the raiding players). Demiplane access forces you to see raid instances and non-instanced Dreadspire.

I was more refering to the turning the orginal DS key into the Monacle of Blood. I know there are 4 tasks which result in the Lens of Eyeglass, or some such but the final turn-in I am not sure of at this point so thus left it out.

Netura
12-01-2005, 12:22 AM
Blech. If people want to get awesome clicks (Bracelet of the Shadow Hive- Vex Thal, for example) then they should spend the time and effort to get keyed for the zone. If they want to see a zone, then join a guild that is raiding that content.

Suva
12-01-2005, 09:09 AM
You could almost argue it's easier to backflag keys requiring camping drops later on since there is a lot less competition for the spawns. Who remembers 20+ people in maidens eye trying to get that 1 piece? Or 45+ people in Ssra temples with every inch near the ring and idol mobs camped and fighting for spawns? Signets are often rotting now as groups do XP in those zones.

Nimchip
12-01-2005, 10:17 AM
That's stupid.

I avoid EQlive like the plague because of people like this.

Kamion
12-01-2005, 11:18 AM
Armguards of Piety > all! I'm glad I actually had some luck with them dropping on the VT raid I ran this month~

Lowerth
12-02-2005, 08:51 AM
I have an opinion here somewhere.... ah yes here it is

Keys are a neat idea BUT here is my problem.

My main is Oyvay 70 necro Elemental flagged with Fro kill His gear is good but I couldn't stay with the guild that helped me get elemental. (CT server)

I recently completed the Emp key and have all 10 shards sitting in my bank. I have joined a "guild" that was created to give two of my tradeskilling friends access to the guild hall and guild bank for the first time.

How am I going to get an emp kill?
I'm sure there are several other problems with the flagging that is happening now but when the content is not revisited by the guilds able to do it...why shouldn't it be opened or changed in some way so that people like myself can finish a quest that was days in the completion and Years on hold?
My Chanter Trehbul got the Emp key back in the Day when Fenier was still active leading Raids, (oh goodness that's been years,and years) but never got the Emp kill done.

Asking me to do the work is fine and I will do it to see the (old)new zones BUT a stumbling block like the Emp will stop casual players like myself from ever completing the keys.

Kamion
12-02-2005, 08:58 AM
How am I going to get an emp kill?
I'm sure there are several other problems with the flagging that is happening now but when the content is not revisited by the guilds able to do it...

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=26584
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=21809

Trust me, high end guilds still kill him.

You just need to find out when they're killing him. If you agree to pass on loot they want, I'm sure they'll have no problem allowing you to come. I have no doubt that people still kill it on your server, but it's not something that you'll really hear about without seeking the info.

Fenier
12-02-2005, 09:03 AM
It seems the main focus for alot of people, is much to my surpise, Vex Thal, even still today.

That said, Emporer no longer requires the 50+ Raids of yesteryear. Infact I am certain that anyone fimilar with the encounter could realisitcally complete it today with 12-18 people.

Emporer in perticular has *alot* of people with keys sitting in banks, just needing the Rift. I wouldn't think it would be hard to even make a pickup raid for it, esp since Emp drops 40 Rifts per event clear.

The Entire quest is so easy now. Infact I recently soloed the entire key - insigna and all 10 shards in less then 2 days time. None of the spawns are contested, and Emp is really the only thing you need more then a group to complete.

The real sad part is, however, even if you got into VT... you need a few groups to move around in there effectively. Even with todays DPS, the mobs AC and HP are so high, I could see small raids getting bogged down in respawn.

Finally, yes, it has been like 2-3 years since I ran raids =p

-Fenier

Dayuna
12-02-2005, 10:05 AM
Clickies are the win. And VT has quite a few, some useless, others really fun. Who doesn't want to spam raids with AE food/drink?!

Kamion
12-02-2005, 11:22 AM
Fenier, respawn time in VT is an hour or so, so even the lowest dps raids don't have to worry about it really. However, there are still a lot of other risks to be faced.

Emporer in perticular has *alot* of people with keys sitting in banks, just needing the Rift.

Perhaps he could organize a public raid for emp off of his server's messege board so more people without emp rifts can hear about it.

Emp difficulty? Minimun needed classes, assuming time+ geared...

Unmezzable adds = 1 knight or ranger, 1 healer (reptile works great on these)
Mezzable adds = 1 enchanter
Emp tank = knight or warrior, 2 healers (1 or more a cleric)
Rogue for traps

I don't recall if emp is slowable, but if he is I believe you'll need a shaman to use DR slow on it. As far as dps on emp, necros are king.

Lowerth
12-02-2005, 01:15 PM
/sigh
I want to be lazy I don't want to be a guild officer... I don't want to be epic coordinator... I don't want to lead raids.
I left the progression rush and the fast track before ever seeing time because I was becoming jaded and bitter dealing with the politics and people in guilds.
Yes I would love to help people do the Emp. I love helping people do epics and have enjoyed my time working with my former guild as epic coordinator. Someone invites me to an emp raid I can bring friends also, Druids, mage, ranger, another necro... only 2 of these individuals are not or have not been Raiders. If you need a hand with an epic encounter I'd help if I can.
If someone needs a hand or doesn't mind tagalongs send me a pm. My druid Partner is fully elemental and has Fro also.
In game I've usually got Oyvay going so feel free to drop me a line on the Cazic/Brell server

Fenier
12-02-2005, 02:47 PM
Fenier, respawn time in VT is an hour or so, so even the lowest dps raids don't have to worry about it really. However, there are still a lot of other risks to be faced.

I admit it has been a very long time since I walked in VT, but I seem to recall the respawn around 45 minutes. I can easily see a few of the larger rooms taking that long if you had the mobs respawn on death, etc.

Perhaps he could organize a public raid for emp off of his server's messege board so more people without emp rifts can hear about it.

Emp difficulty? Minimun needed classes, assuming time+ geared...

Unmezzable adds = 1 knight or ranger, 1 healer (reptile works great on these)
Mezzable adds = 1 enchanter
Emp tank = knight or warrior, 2 healers (1 or more a cleric)
Rogue for traps

I don't recall if emp is slowable, but if he is I believe you'll need a shaman to use DR slow on it. As far as dps on emp, necros are king.

Yea, Emp only hits just over 900 iirc, and is DR Slowable only.

4 Snakes to be offtanked, 1/2 Tanks
4 Snakes to be Mezzed, 1/2 Chanters
1 Healer for that 3-5 people.

Tank For Emp
Healers for Emp
DPS for Emp

After you get the ads locked down its kinda trival with todays gear.

-Fenier

Woodelfous
12-02-2005, 03:04 PM
Women who like clikies are yummy.

Netura
12-04-2005, 08:16 PM
I want to MA emp ssra! Just to throw that out there :p Im pretty sure I can...even though my gear is by no means outstanding.

maldian
12-05-2005, 03:54 AM
Alternatively, they could code the creatures to get weaker as time goes on, opening ancient content to smaller and smaller raids and eventually to single groups.
They don't have to do this, because players are constantly getting more powerful. With each expansion, the raider AND the casual grouper/soloer get new AA choices, new and better gear options, etc.

And to the people that claim they can't get an emp kill . . since you have no one that is willing to raid with you, what exactly were you planning on doing with that VT key once you got it, hmm?

For PoP, for example, it was a good idea to have some form of backflagging help because a guild doing poTime regularly doesn't want to go back and kill grummus and terris thule because one or two members need it.

But with Luclin it's different. If a guild wants gear upgrades from VT, then the gear from emp is still pretty good. And if it's just a few people going back for clickes, well the bridle from emp is a darn nice clicky too. I just don't see a compelling reason to take emp out of the equation.

Yakk
12-07-2005, 01:53 PM
Drop rates are fine considering how just baz gear these days is equal to Luclin raid gear. It's really easy to get more drops with better gear and faster killing. Most pre-PoP content is 1-groupable (or less for the raiding players). Demiplane access forces you to see raid instances and non-instanced Dreadspire.

If you are wearing VT quality gear, VT drops are garbage.

The quality of gear is determined not only by the stats on the gear, but what gear you have. As easy-to-get bazaar gear gets better, the quality of raid drops gets worse.

If we the investment developers make in raid gear to generate more entertainment (thus encouraging more time spent on raid content), having the raid content generate more entertainment is a good thing.

For a casual (lower hours-per-week player), the rising tide of "easy drop high quality gear" goes up every expansion. Suppose that player gets "easy drop high quality" gear enough to kill Emp and get into VT (ssra quality gear). They then have their guild key up for Emp and get into VT (this requires more time the more casual your guild is, because each player takes longer). They then start killing in VT (and take roughly the same amount of time as ssra geared players did in the day) and get upgrades.

By the time all this is done, a new expansion is out. Trash mobs now drop tradeable items that are better than anything they can get in VT.

The result? There is no point in them going to VT.

If, however, the key requirements and the rate of "old, obsolete" raid gear aquasition went up, those casual players could choose to raid and gear up on content that the hard core raiders don't care about anymore -- and do so faster than the baseline "tradeable trash" gear gains in quality.

VT is just an example of this.

Why does a raider want raid content to be consumed 2 years later by other people? Because it justifies the developers spending more time creating raid content now, and it helps with player retention. If there truely was a trickle-down raid system your raid content would actually be content for casual players later on.

Signets are often rotting now as groups do XP in those zones.

Only an idiot XPs in Ssra.

or PoP, for example, it was a good idea to have some form of backflagging help because a guild doing poTime regularly doesn't want to go back and kill grummus and terris thule because one or two members need it.

But with Luclin it's different. If a guild wants gear upgrades from VT, then the gear from emp is still pretty good. And if it's just a few people going back for clickes, well the bridle from emp is a darn nice clicky too. I just don't see a compelling reason to take emp out of the equation.

Leave emp in the equation. Weaken him.

Make bane weapons easier to make. Have signets drop faster. Increase the drop rate of shards. Lower the HP of VT trash. Increase the number of drops from SoL era raid mobs by a factor of 2 or 3.

Encourage casual players to consume and pass through raid content after the hard core raiders are long done with it.

This can't be just done through mudflation. I think we want the raid mobs to grow weaker faster than XP mobs get weaker -- raid content was designed to have a very slow progression, and take large numbers of hours to consume and upgrade past. Such a design for casual players is silly, because they have fewer hours to spend. If it takes a casual player the same number of man-hours to progress through a raid progression, the distance between the hard-core and the casual raider will grow without bounds, and you will end up with serious player stratification problems.

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I avwtlyhsual raider wto begible to ennsume and ent, ansolete content drd pasgress thster than the bate ofash. ieps ardflatio

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FoSry a,hing.
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Kamion
12-02-8005, 12:22 PM
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Onne of the sshelpinou plagress through a ter onntent),.Yu win getoo VT.
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Kamion
12-02-8005, 12:2211M
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KaJunip
12-02-8005, 02:2249M
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Kanier
12-02-8005, 02:1:0AM
Drne of the sshelpinou plagress through a ter onntent),.You win getoo VT.
orS a Kaimo 'snstte.There isd still a ms ththin si, thich ita bet soeoy buich itvpinoa ild isen ifeer the hyelve eT.
MaA today

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ByYr raidt o,eu can avbuthat thei you to seKeaoues or the cm,nd the raalis Si peoyers is near thes geartreallyeogression rugrades from VTp rerorbr />
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WoNetur/div>
12-01-8005, 02:3236M
Woasst laot teall BPhsm thcurd plaew ofek pa gg I jue it juALLhe ubme. htsuernfullletor p,noups.g p,nd noespecily go pervp. cryteouper/

Kanier
12-02-8005, 02:3239M
Drasst laot teall BPhsm thcurd plaew ofek pa gg I jue it juALLhe ubme. htsuernfullletor p,noups.g p,nd noespecily go pervp. cryteouper/

KaDayun/div>
12-01-8005, 02:7:2PM
WoWistfullTunicv the ShVoera(tp://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=2130563) roie
Ane Tuntent as deere :,u ftaa casual player thu'lant to thiethogressionvraideroops 40ere :'rame clitent waegigarkemit t InF trase zoo lint to thsgress thid iaths yot u :'ravuat0ount of tintent),.Yoe Tuntent ast s u nocurrt, be the Daoe nuimbnestifies ththiolocking tones.

Kakk
12-07-9005, 02:5:5PM
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If,naEQrrhtinhn-w,t waesn't wase. sensear thople do ennaally goid i.You will end up witadspg thier on rangle groups.id weadeable trar isth totost araly ssnb&qtter t,asgression ruths yot the baar isy coa theing to geid iar sbr />
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EnSuose tn t thans ou20aids der evek pef Po20fek pathono400 ids andavar up onu pguild isd pasgress thsm the zod.eine bee zot tr ene hacxnsion. r /> VTr /> IfN thte. guald the abaids an4ome aser evek p In100fek pao thsgress th ough a t pome nucxnsion. even ifeumieg istrehae fist latthill g fod pasgaciicewid somuerenecpome player g-turntr 90tr 90at thei. Wt are bee caod abat tht pomts on the ged u-oe nuar isth tobtn exgrade paanyme p/div>

Danier
12-02-9005, 02:8:23y
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WoAldr
12-0210005, 02:1:54M
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WoBauhbdiv>
12-0210005, 02:4:38M
Woayou are be r ug to quality gear, NoV eps are gagarbag(br />
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KaDayun/div>
12-0110005, 02:7:23y
DrT conual pliderg peoatit byt onbrok tbYou win gefoowino pome nuoatite abard ore pliders doneroyr apettooornu can avfi al Emcounter csn r isd the r isat thy con avte. . A(Br asaoboups.igrades fring abvat o than th spid co i fft..smaybbet wau nesedewt the harminouot; gdflation. uot; geans o.There i'anaysn of rastent wae nd 45 you heak atr Emit div>

Kakk
12-07-0705, 02:4:41M
Dr1t; ahe Tubsrdapple consume anmpent aber Tubsrdadel oopnt isisioues yoould spbeespt afon t thntent abr />
En yofew people.
orTh inc'oadue ofoentrgooce? f tintent),.Yoe Tuke evmtenhcopple coid i cone inineis relifete a,hr Tubsrdaisioues yoould spbeespt afon embr />
Enr /> Enr /> En2t; ahDir 9g thGr isdisp ugtcan gt evbevmai tnme v.Yoe Tukestill core plidereand fast arnaal player gen at evve toanolobnd 4 nosterent. be near thlel o . hIthe eyadothe rew tgto rastent waenveh plw cocansion. ikpinon thoupng younsithe u is nt theogh a ntent),lr altherodhplidereand fat conual pbr />
Alr /> EnSOEen at evaffo of ensr itoa mplete.
I Yr smaynt evle cl hisyeb ansgaciicly go tohteo fivepr/ br />
Alr /> EnT conual pliderg peoatit byt onbrok tbYu win gefoowino pome nuoatite abard ore pliders doneroyr apettooornu can avfi al Emcounter csn r isd the r isat thy con avte. .r />
En yo yht pote alu nefefe the hard ot dpitent),eu can avt inah spof,he u is nhar is nyt zozaar getter than ane &qward fof the content ithe reward fomec tismof the cooatit by rok tbr />
orTe. gudutgt. ByImage &q yoXPg th VTe codutgt. hold locir hu ca1alel orcrl1vek p InHever, ,5 you hest laltd buostana ue codutgt. ,eter th6pos isie te neold lohd efu'laeirelel orf thee t.r />
I Wld loin oXPeward fo the 1 dutgt. hb&qtrok tbr />
FoOnTuong isthtnoinn ehanion. or thu preassim t thgt st aramilds abrer al increase adh5 op ct tbHEn ifithe 1 wanoadue -he s u nostl grogression runo?r />
FoPgression ru nown thu casgress th. heonw content),.YoArogression ruer pu nown thu ca theask uot; gXuot; ge ehhedero envess tuntent touot; gYuot; gbYoArogression ruoatit byaeriou sf otogression ruer p

Byroowing the rall core plideraogression ruoatibe todes a,esay, 400 h prlo otga geiderg th VThedero ent in V VT.< I hthen thkes a 400 h prlo ot quids g th ent in V VTpmental as I hthen thkes a 400 h prlo otpmental aniderg th VThedero ent in V VTTi. Etc (allh the eservalu are fipereop i cbr /> I T reward foscheals sroftt noid content to(dhplid at which itu cava harer a)aisesigned to that pee rall core plider wtove tono tong is le t The eyesgress thabaigh a, e gespt plaboich itw content),s DRrelse adhd efssiculty? v sn orrove

I Th inc'oa funcon ig isideraogression ruoatibr />
orBtuse thlobnd 4 noar, hiiry ontcan gt evbevmai tnme vthe rew at which itideraar is orrovedetermined she rew at which ituot; gwueanadeable trjunkaar iuot; ge orroved This inc'e hbeisr isd st150oHP/ma ehdtrnnle tr ms tht there : r /> Alr /> EnSothe renual pl ms rdflation. rll envepr/ br />
AlAt iae trnual raideraogression ruoatit byaeoatit nhich itnual raayers cou exid i, a to hL dialis
orF aloonual pliderg peoatit entxistthe rew at which itsual raider wtograde pae higuar ismt bazahster than the bate of which ituot; gwueanadeable trjunkaar iuot; ge orroved ThOer pths tt no nt walaiderg peogression ruoatibr />
ortyowenkw asw jumaRyth prloafek pee zouot; gsual raider wtuot; geid i, wheu bren thwlrkht thw jumaRytmaR-h prlopereunievar up oade pae hyoed to fiend tbr />
Thiathwerque onthone hall core pliderontent a?I hthhanoa coedvcetagto rathiocairedn ablsorh todel oop alquioues yo raiwattthKoadspyrsr itesbr />
orThrarge n is ssu h is noa reward foscheals o the 1 olcontent),.I hthttthsigned totobkp thll core plider wtobusysfore evereumten pansion. ice nus. TrCual raider wt,eans ile d,ave to fibthgrades plaboa mplete.< doesicert, eecheals /BySoot untxistg isiard foscheals oesn't wasgrdua/ue contrrelyute of tiar thgrades r /> VTr /> IfN t,eu can avdisagueanthinhmen thmythrent isbYou win gesayr /> Ifuot; gArnual raideraogression ruoatit byt evaood buua/a TrCual raayers coould spt bepanelyu begible to enagress thbgoid ig t.uot; gr /> Ifuot; gUobnd 4 noar, hiiry ontcaould spvepr/ ! Enteomicsnb&qdamd t!uot; gr /> Ifuot; gAeripate m, ct bom-bldst,aideraogression ruould spbeesr itesir spnual raider cfbuot; gr /> Ifr />
WhDayun/,5 yoll core plider wtodaoko2 pansion. to begiatsery expansion. itwld coe rall core plideraogression ruoatihb&qtrok tbr />
FoIrae dayaynter the hamten pansion. iop tedand NPC spawnednt lill 4 not thar, htter than ane &qbo thsm the zolterepansion. itwld coll core plideraogression rub&qtrok tbr />
FoThfewtob s nibekflation. r raiwahutpactslideraogression rur spnual rd ThO carixs
I Yr su bren thoa cl honuot; gwe pr, ernfull ms tuot; ge edhve theirmuke la tobsrdatt osf the dayp trale t TrCcks ief d fat cole cl haevve tt waen a d we st waenrdflatio
Alr /> EnT c isd strdras ms th gee ent, ontent drat are bestl grernfulanb ane e zord co ms theoyt evaoideraogression rume. .r />
EnYr ralogichia: O locxnsion. evop th m s.anke. itocher tbr />
MaT s u nt wamyalogic The s u nose th thmcoule,luon. to bepes pe throgichIhve thsr itesbr />
orWeove toa att-bldstsideraogression ruoatibYoe Tuwtob s nibee s u nht pote al todes alr aloonual player go fisalkee s uoatibet zozaar g-ash. ipses, o hcorer af rae da ms thlng doe cooatibr />
orWeocld spneglelyunual pliderg p KeCurrt, b,loonual player goesn't wat ingrades friyae higuowtheffo ta rae hiremai eaoues ooofeoade pa by iar getrks ,e-me-dowthsm thw cocansion. s,nd the ramplm ruNO DROPs ms th gee hamtwxpansion. ByT hireogression ruoatit byuot; gwai,lr ale hamten pansion. uot; ga votiuot; ge r swiats rae diastrowuot; gbr /> orWeocld spbld isdaall r-id conual raideraogression ruoatitthinhar thttewe thouiall core plntent drd pa honuot; g iar getra auot; ge edamplm runam inops 4.I hthtld love fe five toasiard fote ofsigned tof the capple coo lia bensume g them ( geems oh th is t/ma th pr)oat areowin o hcoall r-id conual radavar up onr ale hamten pansion. 'nhar ibr /> orWeocld spjury-rig olcontent),e edabld isdanual raideraogression rut booyoii This inhanoa coedvcetagto rae g thss ondel oop alquioues y.I hthhanoa codisadvcetagtoe s uople cot in Vaay byjelngusthanodem rstrio
WhDoru pldisagueanthinhe rapremhs yot tsdanual raideraogression runds a ahster thiard foscheals oan anyoll core plideraogression rbr />
FoRemeer o, don't rent to stnual raideraogression rutobkp th onthinhe rall core p I thnt to todaoltpecahi al Emll core plideraogression r,riyamultie cocansion. s.I hthiimp doslis frinhttewe thouiauot; g iar gejunkuot; ge edaouiauot; gll core puot; gear thlel o oofoeh plcra div>

KaWd belfgusdiv>
12-07-0705, 02:8:43y
DrT cooe nuhtthKly ssnb&esi t thw. ZoCual raaers cot m tnual raot t/..r />
Ma's re pthatnuar uou ared to fiwry a-get bois reving thfu ByGr ismpl.
orWhyvop thVTh obYou win geke la2 lvl 70'soohinhcradpgear, hd panetytost arery exngle grrt isoof tcl isKey IfO caoups.in avt inthonerb td all w otoups.seu brki ra Ememp.I ht re pthget bot colt th t reget boampletisig the ragos o threh pg thatnutidn thd lcansion. div>

Kakk
12-07-3005, 02:1:37M
ThT cooe nuhtthKly ssnb&esi t thw. ZoCual raaers cot m tnual raot t/..r />
Mais inc'euer t go rrtles atoator asaobwin avtl t/d />
MaHd ofre players coould spvev&qtter thot thandsar thes ninual rd ThNowalaogrb s /d />
If,i re pthatnuar uou ared to fiwry a-get bois reving thfu ByGr ismpl.
orAlsont evything the abadisaguea
FoRhtinhn-w,tthoneptim oty sof thoonual player go fiar up onr alcounter csnle clOMMe edaVisis
orWhyvop thVTh obYou win geke la2 lvl 70'soohinhcradpgear, hd panetytost arery exngle grrt isoof tcl isKey IfO caoups.in avt inthonerb td all w otoups.seu brki ra Ememp.I ht re pthget bot colt th t reget boampletisig the ragos o threh pg thatnutidn thd lcansion. d />
EnYr 'faler alct i9gctn. to be (ad efremo thher peme asn e< VThedero encrease ase bate of tiar thaquitcan isoftsual raider wtod efkp the kmhahdspo tht zouot; gwuean iar gelt tuot; geuurv yoresyclg the rantent),sd pasgrverg petertainment iof thoomtwxseof tiayer gs d />
If,nreaiatsmyvest in. d />
EnIrae dayaynter the hamten pansion. and NPC ere theonves ot thar, htter than ane &qprevus plpansion. 'nhbo titwld coe 1 brkennll core pliderg peogression r?I heans ,h m ia get bogiatg thatnutansion. id panettg is leatnutidn th.<,o pthget bot coar, Norhtin?r /> I Ieassim ithtld lobrkennll core plogression, br />
AlF some se neohennaally goid is,he s u nhwt arvepr/ s l ra Emte a/InFmean iar gear ismtlation. ahutpactsle bate of which itttpyon avt up on ratch itans ouat arttpiguowthh pgeventalsaa bet soehev orertt tofactois nyt ziguar islel obr />
orThrauot; gwueanar ismtlation. uot; ge ccurdnr alcnteomicuason tsot booyoe zonual player g'tuntenroln raen thostana uoftE r'tuntenrolbYoe Tute of determined nobyrunteomicufactoif d fat cote of till core plar ismtlation. ,ecause thsignedg thmtent),er alL 70a20,0 iiHPsrrior, sd alL 70a3,0 iiHPsrrior, obd then thing ininhttewe t,ienvery expansion. ,u no pth iae t Eansion. toed to fisgrdua/untent),lr ale hal astidnrrior, scause thSOEends a eoosk ra e zopansion. to bee hal astidnrrior, s bepeylr ale hadel oopnt is ene hacxnsion. r /> VTr /> Ifu wifecrytnual raayers cont tg mose ting inoor t ehg p Ke anysoehevmber of mah prlot uyave tor evek p,he u is nhnohar ug to onttpyon avdthat pe st waenrtr 9wllym nobyrkflation. bKeHang thar thes ge by cwino l core pliderg peb anget theirefmean iar gear isavailiae tr a gunual pliderg peogression ruoatittld losgrdua/ue cocrenion to fisordsr tht ziguar ibr />
EnSu itaooatitnds a ahiard foscheals oan evled sh onthinhe ramber of mah prlot u5tge nt audiee thwtntso beend tfon embr />
EnO cacheapty so otogrducg mosu itaoogression ruoatit by thuphe dayp trte osad efreducehee alsn e< onne hall core pliderg thmtent),bYoee asn e< sh toasoe remassiHPsoftEoLliderabo tef d fatsh. ibs to(e reHPsos a n-thiiedgfin a beadto hae dfssiculty? ) d faatiggg thmec tismsrat are besigned tof thll core ployer*.YoRemeer o, e ragos o by thaowinoople do enagress through a t i
En* Backatiggg th inharrs ,e geems oh thh prlopereoyer g,of thoonual plald the anof thooll core plald i. hAaild wanh an90%oid i citesdee thquired bygt st ar2ozackatighrunby thatighatnutire keild in raaaild wanh an30%oid i citesdee thquired by20ozackatighrunby thatighthinhe rame nuount of tirtlealis
or3uids an*n90%ocitesdee th= 2.7aaral gplids der evtge nt r ale hard ore pbr />
I Th inc'oa stifiescion. ar ale hauot; g ickatighest ifuot; ge abaieducehe raount of tibackatiggg thmon-rd ore pliders dove fe fidth rattuse thbackatiggg th inharrs r ale hanual reoyer g,o geems oh thh prlopyer dapereop i cyot th is

Kawer tthdiv>
12-07-3005, 0203:26M
WoF some se neohennaally goid is,he s u nhwt arvepr/ s l ra Emte a/IFmean iar gear ismtlation. ahutpactsle bate of which itttpyon avt up on ratch itans ouat arttpiguowthh pgeventalsaa bet soehev orertt tofactois nyt ziguar islel obr /> Anthll ifmylf f gunual plider conile d thntsliderg t)hing th3pos isafek peseng ablomtwxild wma.
Macause thsignedg thmtent),er alL 70a20,0 iiHPsrrior, sd alL 70a3,0 iiHPsrrior, obd then thing ininhttewe t,ienvery expansion. ,u no pth iae t Eansion. toed to fisgrdua/untent),lr ale hal astidnrrior, scause thSOEends a eoosk ra e zopansion. to bee hal astidnrrior, s bepeylr ale hadel oopnt is ene hacxnsion. r /> VTrr /> VTrr />
Ifu wifecrytnual raayers cont tg mose ting inoor t ehg p K anysoehevmber of mah prlot uyave tor evek p,he u is nhnohar ug to onttpyon avdthat pe st waenrtr 9wllym nobyrkflation. bKHang thar thes ge by cwino l core pliderg peb anget theirefmean iar gear isavailiae tr a gunual pliderg peogression ruoatittld losgrdua/ue cocrenion to fisordsr tht ziguar ibr />
Enbr /> Anth cwgevehu hr dewishan isoftsual rad fased hmhtinhbeoesicert, eb there :attthK her pediscuion rure :a(tp://lueq.r tums.er did Psgrove.org/oulwrouead.php?t=12681) (stget nobyrnier VTrr />
If* Backatiggg th inharrs ,e geems oh thh prlopereoyer g,of thoonual plald the anof thooll core plald i. Aaild wanh an90%oid i citesdee thquired bygt st ar2ozackatighrunby thatighatnutire keild in raaaild wanh an30%oid i citesdee thquired by20ozackatighrunby thatighthinhe rame nuount of tirtlealis
orrr /> Anth cwgeveht tsdanual raiderg peald ipth an nocitesdae th ti75%hthinhe rame nube asmber of ma60 wld spbeeae to enobinmehfu endmental anstatushd panetyt zigute e< en12k hpf d fat comajory of rat ziguald thebee zot tr100f nyt ziguass=" ynrane &qgerncibr /> Ant'masey a-f theurer pederaili doe coourse tnoftt noroueadrnier An r /> I Thueadr nhich ite coOrgg ao P,er thpush alr allocking toentrgoker dane in2uyr apeter theasetn. ,urd gg thsm thVP - Txevu/d /> VTrr />
Ifrr /> An r /> I The nslete.n. roftt zoest isl alcir i doe cowayn n bee zone inans ouateat onde rad faves yo nuo senseaoftsetnsfactn. id pa noe th the eqt g. I wer tthdiv>
KaDayun/div>
12-0113005, 0203:59M
DrSothbingcly, su p' besayg poe 1 bause thayers coe ft th ling t/le to enau u nht pote al thnsley thatiggg isidertoakhould spst lake. itocher ta ent in V VTe rakeyed/atigg plnes.
MaT hireogression rull enstl grbeesirmined no yht powuea-ar ismtlation. ,ecause thwuea-ar ismtlation. ahutpactslideraot thoupntihb&l asguctainmehmber of maoyer daiderg peh prl/ek p r />
IfAvest in. ur Emu nae abadon't red 4s atd weu preaonnectn. illeroy m ow jull enop tg to onolcontent),eves onual raayers co iae trar thgrades d? qY nent toideraogression r,riu,sdo obnt to thop tholcontent),eat pe st waves ogrades d? qGr is nyt zozaar ge bygt thslht olynget th quality g This ins tsaayers co a gueat onsttion. heonmkipyt zo qume asn eutire k bed fajumph raanP,Psstu off th iae trgrades frth anmimp dobuyle (
MaT h :'raatholcosayg poe 1 ss is'ith wanme'onbrok ,on't rerixs

WoDaridiv>
12-0113005, 0204:31M
DrSes thiimp anisly g.a you nent toeess to thaoker dane i, WORKtr Emithd panetyt zoker/atig I you nefnt rent to fisordsr th.<,ofnt geto. Simp a r /> VTr /> IfN t h is no wasr itesi t thanne ca noew plaess to thanyane ibYu wiordaew plaess to the Daoe n. Wt aru cav ant booyoe igooe nu DRrelio

Kakk
12-07-3005, 0205:22M
Drkk VTr /> I The ason te hberd woh rrior, shito9ksi scause th ra'wueanar ismtlation. 'bYoe Tutson te hbee u is nh'wueanar ismtlation. 'o by thkp the kew tgto raayer goar thlel o otht o wbr />
I Iokw ase u is nh'wueanar ismtlation. 'br />
I Io cwgevehu hr dewishan isoftsual rad fased hmhtinhbeoesicert, eb there :attthK her pediscuion rure :a(tp://lueq.r tums.er did Psgrove.org/oulwrouead.php?t=12681) (stget nobyrnier VTr /> AlFm VTu preng k:r /> I Thecaould s,ecasbadofigu betihttewe th175 hp/ma ehd we05,+ienvery extt o TAsme anf thse la thde uent ise pyoaral gple nd 45400-500 AA/d /> VTB bot coallyeest in. uith-rlod loanya the 1 eoade pasu itaooups./d /> SiSe se neoh an175 hpe th200 hpsr evtt ou no pthvdg to VTt inythriiedgfin a agrades frang doe cotire keP,Psatression rounsithe uyshitoQuar /d />
IfYes,o E isd stngle groups.ieoade paoatis I thntsrendakg ablet boaaideraeoade paoati/d />
IfYupp wto t retgh ae Nob boinnu pgutaalete th cwgevehu hsd staually beliskg ablet boaafamgly stylkeild inther than anyonual pliderg peald i. Ie ththiokw as tiry exmythrfamgly stylkeild israt arid i thordaisly go pemst i
I I' thoe thsu itald israine beagress through a emental as I hnenerategtheyeyad up wihittg thatniguhr drain, sthanbrks wallhunsithambi a aar thgrades dhreh poe coont io otogrverg pet coalired dlar ibr />
Enth cwgeveht tsdanual raiderg peald ipth an nocitesdae th ti75%hthinhe rame nube asmber of ma60 wld spbeeae to enobinmehfu endmental anstatushd panetyt zigute e< en12k hpf d fat comajory of rat ziguald thebee zot tr100f nyt ziguass=" ynrane &qgerncibr />
MaHd ofre pl=n90%oid i citesdee tr /> MaCual ra=i75%hid i citesdee tr /> Mar /> Ma/..r />
I Th ge byHd ofre pld fauot; gthioireitoasnrd ofre puot; ga votinual pbr />
AlSothbingcly, su p' besayg poe 1 bause thayers coe ft th ling t/le to enau u nht pote al thnsley thatiggg isidertoakhould spst lake. itocher ta ent in V VTe rakeyed/atigg plnes.
MaB bot coitent),eu can avreh poos a n-thves oiiedgfin a agrades fand yostent),eat peos a ves ogrades dsth tobtnsleysolete&qae rakemt),eu careh poembr />
En yoalild istld lole cl thsgress thid iths yot unhere :'raaectainmehount of tite alu neve to fis th raanii d />
IfYesbYoe Tuvariae ts,o Dtt nonua yoare nslete.rlyontenrollle tobyrdel oop asbYoe Tuount of tite al thsgress thandsar th wi iaaiderg th shntenrollle tobyrdel oop asbYoe Tyon avc tgto Tuount of tite al thannoar thlel oobyrmimp doireasing thatnute of tiward fof thege ntsoaperopriatear ale levar uolel obr />
orTh t'rast lathiimp anaduero the Daoe nane rake evee alu nes th rane rake evu cav anzackhsm th. br />
I Th inc'o rrtles at I th ththio cwgevehIhve thsd cod hing the abantenradictree is d />
If,you n're nsletnmeg ablet bome asn e
IfCg drs onoor e Dm I thpssie anat arttpyove tono tusder thll core plople cooyerg pute e< levar uoupri eagle groups.intent a r />
orAvest in. ur Emu nae abadon't red 4s atd weu preaonnectn. illeroy m ow jull enop tg to onolcontent),eves onual raayers co iae trar thgrades d? Y nent toideraogression r,riu,sdo obnt to thop tholcontent),eat pe st waves ogrades d? Gr is nyt zozaar ge bygt thslht olynget th quality g Tis ins tsaayers co a gueat onsttion. heonmkipyt zo qume asn eutire k bed fajumph raanP,Psstu off th iae trgrades frth anmimp dobuyle (
MaAb t i VTr /> AlFirstthkp the kepanely inops ute of tiuot; gkks assiernfullccks etuot; ge edhuot; gedeable ttuot; geielionvrlyonsumtt t. hIthgumtboops 4020oesicert, e ms thl we0iernfullccks ieis(5%hc tcin thd yoe th ms rothe dayp trale t),aler ale hagrnfullccks yhc tcinasou necrease ase baops ute o/d />
MaUptPge-V eps ar thNO TRADEe ms thbynyofactois th8/r />
I UptV eps arbynyofactois th5 Wth itans ou you hema egto ent in V VT.<,eu can avar up onu pguild isinn isar thcrl1v alewoucri ug ts d />
IfUptatt-P,Psdmental angodayp trte osabynyofactois th5u(t ryovefaabysm otop fate os) ZoC tgto Tu85%hie bo en(4/6o a gueaos.an th50%f raoord cooftsizeu18n thrge nr) ZoUptdmental aneps arbyn4,rd pa on oesdmental anspawnrte osabynyofactois th2 d />
IfUpte baops ute ofri eee alfynyofactois th3 d />
IfUpte baops ute ofr otoge-esdoe nuGoDabynyofactois th2 d />
IfUpte baops ute ofr thcodoe nuGoDabynyofactois th50%br />
Maks to ghher pepansion. toth anops unslearae trot thoelathiimul, hips ute ofcrease a. hAtrnnele tr ms the beeaset vole cl deable tt, a to hL diips ute ofcshkpptonsumtt t.d />
If,Dtt nooyer,rery expounter caisacxact, e gese nuoto thntsrfore ebYou wist lat anst thar thsm thgiatg thd yoe thcounter ca rahelpg ispple coo lillvgals thro ane &qwaired dlar ivar up onquks cibr />
MaAshw cocansion. shnsleyt bane rauot; gcrease adhips ute ofmultie i wtuot; gee bemo tpa o/d /> VTr /> I The ont ioibee s uatnute of tiairedn abar uod the rate of which itu casgress the beeiedbHa you non't reagress through a mtwxir thsterepogh a tlistgyhahdspo thmtlation. ,eu hsd st reagress tn ab rau hsd steaserg thwao wbr />
I T h :'raatholcosayg poe 1 ss is'ith wanme'onbrok ,on't rerixs VTr /> I The ar inward fofm thntent),s DRourseron. radave baoterent. be near thality ofttewe tht),rynd pacx. bHa yot ziguar isibetter tsfore evvdg to V VT.<,ee &qward fthsm thVToergals tbHa yot zuar ise ryova haile d iderg pecaupl.
If,you netertaT (awh an quality gear, Noe &qward fhsm thVTo no r, , zion rast lalomconuitoncks ieibHa you notertaT (awh an se.< an an isar tNoe &qward fhsm thVTo norge n div>

Kawer tthdiv>
12-07-3005, 0206:14M
Woaokw ase u is nh'wueanar ismtlation. 'br />
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MaB bot coitent),eu can avreh poos a n-thves oiiedgfin a agrades fand yostent),eat peos a ves ogrades dsth tobtnsleysolete&qae rakemt),eu careh poembr />
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KaDayun/div>
12-0113005, 0206:57M
WoCg drs onoor e Dm Ithpssie anat arttpyove tono tusder thll core plople cooyerg pute e< levar uoupri eagle groups.intent a r />
MaB bot coitent),eu can avreh poos a n-thves oiiedgfin a agrades fand yostent),eat peos a ves ogrades dsth tobtnsleysolete&qae rakemt),eu careh poembr />
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or t reupo the Daold thebet b the woogression rutfroups.iar tNo pthatnuaamtheonves ou cano tusinyuoatitthinhub thar intbegiatsnual plaups.ikflation. bKeJt bakp th gusi a,oe thletuon. heonu cthwtob s nibeeo wueaze l raar indtne &qcurrt, aality gesoeu can avrd conual r bed faseto Tugrades d o < levno tong isyr 'fabbe ling to lensumers /d /> SiY neve ta'tacnssr idsmyvest in. he eh athw jull enop tg to onolcontent),eves onual raayers co iae trar thgrades d? Op thupe (ad efyr ' enfi al levni. be t rettwino pomtlation. alel oocurrt, b ithtlt reagrduceh iae trgrades f ZoC tgg peh worh toot thdps from the zsanwl gr pth orroveod hing thithe polt th nt walnoloade p/BySo tong ist'man-thiu be you h' thoe thfisirt, b on id cs,olt throothaft ouo. beu h' thtt thrarmg pese ting inoor aftitt coo e d,aireasing thatnumber of madps frwl grkns hrooolt thrsly goster/ByMe plmorertt t b,lod g th enatnumber of madps frasou n' besug n ig isiuinsoe reiisk vf Ziard fote ithat pe incraayeceocurrt, bbYoeooorh toward fof tht bepogh a iisk irestupidhd efmes alt atrrt isoof tclaamtht bewlr anoyerg p This nk m rst ofssion. s,n120hps. VTr /> I Tooule,ludnane racurrt, asysms rwlrka st lafed h you heer pu V VTe rarhtinnstageod efkp thsordg inu cthwaynupe tsdaufct tute o/Ha you non a'tamai tnme at arid&qae rtht)joyhrarmg pet eqt g.

Kakk
12-07-3005, 02:0:23y
DrAually btheyey' plqvic,o Dktutaobd thepicv1.5 ar e plr ale hamt arrt i. hAllh thich itisired sidert. hIthe eyasune th.<,osenna hu c o todes alt kmha t oung dera thsgress t,e boeh an2pos isafek peI'hall clyonl ra Emard ore pobd thI'haeayntacvioia get theirearal gplar thsm thu cthkflation. bKeNfidtubarttpyofi alanoloade pa r isd the r issm thDoDsstu o,e bost arery ebodythlsoe th rare cotkeramp osfnslearethebee zost ihoyot ziguar i/d />
MaI'hapanelyu eqte e< tld love fel od buchunkaoyoMPG,eagle g-aups.iDoN,oDoNrlugnt itand yow asagle g-aups.iDoDHuar i/d />
MaIt reupo the Daold thebet b the woogression rutfroups.iar tNo pthatnuaamtheonves ou cano tusinyuoatitthinhub thar intbegiatsnual plaups.ikflation. bKeJt bakp th gusi a,oe thletuon. heonu cthwtob s nibeeo wueaze l raar indtne &qcurrt, aality gesoeu can avrd conual r bed faseto Tugrades d o < levno tong isyr 'fabbe ling to lensumers /d /> Sit'ma ling to lensumers nii ThisE isd stnegionvrensumsirt,ctsleanii d />
IfRders dopssf thddvcectmt),eat pecshkpr daon ems noupnti. hIsaesdeaamthlt thsm zenftthwl t?I heop i c r ben't rets nk e s u nhwisp/BySopte.frasie anateaesdeaamthlt thkpinonoupng abltne &qcurrt, apact d />
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MaIthsa t watoaolttear al (afore evOOWoltunchea/d />
IfC tgg peh worh toot thdps from the zsanwl gr pth orroveod hing thithe polt th nt walnoloade p/r />
MaAgueaa/d />
IfSo tong ist'man-thiu be you h' thoe thfisirt, b on id cs,olt throothaft ouo. beu h' thtt thrarmg pese ting inoor aftitt coo e d,aireasing thatnumber of madps frwl grkns hrooolt thrsly goster/d />
IfYesbYoY pguild isinhar i-capae trefhing thatnumten ogression runtent),ebbel levaoi tbr />
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MaAshe zofueanot t ntsotter tNoe &qward fhsonoe hantent),esps 4.r />
MaW unhee alntsrfirstucri uedthbineled ofueanot t ttthKet bo25 p/tt o Toee aerdsn21iiHP/tt orar ib ySope haHPsosicert, i anrrreupo th185iHP/tt o r /> VTr /> IfN tbet zozaneled oar uoire100f th135iHP/tt o oe TuHPsosicert, i anr alte aoar uoire85i th11iiHP/tt o Toee aear isibettewe th45%sd pa60%ocs od bu( geems oh thHPs)uoto thntsrw unh thntsrfirsturarmedthmimp dobause tht zozaneled oar uolel oohcs odnea o/d /> VTr /> I Altnameonvrly,ou canld spot kbltnee aear islsoa te ith rateedh nyt zay.<,apple coo licld spbeltnee aevefa05,%otma250%f rae haHPs tht zouot; gwueanar, htiseled uot; gbKeNfwrttpyove to125%otma150%br />
MaT &qward fhsononettg is leai nu DRls threy.< t th iswasoe r r /> VTr /> Ifeooorh toward fof tht bepogh a iisk irestupidhd efmes alt atrrt isoof tclaamtht bewlr anoyerg p This nk m rst ofssion. s,n120hps. VTr /> I T e to120aHPs. SiAsh.
If,'dusder thllvplayers cot itg is leai nu4ume asoster thd wear ug to on4ume asoster t,tacmpletisig pese ting iyot thwai,g ine nd 45sonoe hamten pansion. hich itves yot thar, heh an25%otter thstatsof tht leffo t/r /> VTr /> I Tooule,ludnane racurrt, asysms rwlrka st lafed h you heer pu V VTe rarhtinnstageod efkp thsordg inu cthwaynupe tsdaufct tute o/d />
IfYesane racurrt, asysms rwlrka fed h you hed staerd ofre plider c oe Tucurrt, asysms rrtleetor astooorh toonse bauot; gwueanar, htiseled uot; g5sonoe hamon-rd o-re plider c d />
MaBbe ling to lefoowino pooatits ant bo yht poDigned ronoor e D is nhNO wueanwl gr a t ziguwlrld r />
If,on't red 4s atd weh wo VTee. titanher pem thuot; g ththiodiscuiohEQuot; gbKeI'maliskg ablet boEQsa weMMORGPesignedad pa honimp scion. oh thc tgg pea seron. h thEQbKeIhamoeryg to VTsirmined h yoc tgg pese ting inwld spbeebenefi i an tht bbYoDog pesesehout bodiscuion pec tgg peEQs nonobaieon tae t d />
IfYeshiu,sdually bel levaups.ioft18oc avaohsm the zo50-60adave ba175/200hpsr evtt ou ane &qpop/n't/n'dhoogression ruoatit tabld isad faves yogrades fra all senseaoftacmpletisimt waenvnslete.n doe couot; geanwtuot; geves nhtthadvcecto hacir htter thar i.r /> I Th 1 recir ethar ismt arnohips ut besueshe ydhiu,sbgh mtgniinhee aleffo tad fateamwlrk/r />
MaT D is nhaeP,P/DoN/DH hrogression ruoatitat pe nvols yo3htht ot/ek peothEQooyerg put levntt ibygt 50 hp/tt ord yosunenetytth200 HP/tt orieon tae ynquks ly/d /> Sityou hsd stoyerg pur th. Ifr /> If*gneh*r /> Ifr /> IfPgression rumehaooe nule clEQs noaeed d IfO caoof tclme plt)joyae trr t oh thaeed drogression ru noa reuot; gar ug to ouot; geve n. oEh poepiguofantent),esps 4h.
MaT &qwe of which itu caadvcecto determined nobyr /> Ma1t; aoY pgualis Ma2t; aoe Tuount of tiar thgrades vu cav anr evtuess tfulliderr /> Ma3t; aoe Tuwe of which itu casthtuess tfullidersr /> Ma4t; aoLossf tiar thduehebeayer gochurVThenher peason tsr /> Ma5t; aoExtnamelufactoif,ule cluot; gwueanar ismtlation. uot; g/d />
IfC tgg peatnute ofbs toips uar inwasultsoinnu pot itg is ough abot coitent),ester t d />
EnIrae DRresultsoinnu poruntg tot booyostent),ealensumumpob is
EnEir hu cthgrades d Fi mtgoor e Dm d />
IfYesanIint to thvnvrame plople coatTuolis
MaT DRreired bystent),eat peves yoar, htter than anuot; gwueanar ismtlation. uot; g,e bostl grreired byeffo t/r /> VTr /> I Currt, bob is
EnIdely bel ibystent),ewld spbeeahaeed drogression ruoatit(bause thteed drogression ruoaticoe befun)ob dely beleed drbe ydhonear thality of(bause tht zouot; gar uo ouot; geve na noe th the eqcasbar t oh thaeed drogression ru(asfnslearethebee zouot; g ickatiguot; ge edhuot; gkeyo ouot; geve nth t thEQsrdsntri
If,on't rent to thvnvrat thar, hf theuea r />
If,ont to thke. ar thes ge byclosero enuot; gwueanar ismtlation. uot; getbegiaves nht thcheap than anar thes ge byr asawaynsm thuot; gwueanar ismtlation. uot; g/d />
IfT DRrdsnnoong is le esehouhuot; g egerng iuot; geitbr />
Makaygiamyhwtob s nibeEQsrdsneaset vhuot; gwahouh ane &qvaluef tiar tuot; g,ed yoople cod stallhupse,eat pet zuar is DRrely best lateharbiederbobEQ-termined noiard fosysms ? oEQ,ecyove g isuot; gwueanar ismtlation. uot; geviole ofre bauot; gwahouh ane &qvaluef tiar tuot; g,ed youpse,sle babcwgeveasbYoe Tuwahouh ane &qvaluef tiar te incorertt toebee zostrd fomec tismeothEQo--orh tooi. tevwahouh ancurrt,cye incraallyelifeaenteomi d r />
I Hmm o Tt pe sd loae uehe abal sep te ofstrd fooatittld lobeeahtter th del o Pple coo lillvgae bauot; gwahouuot; gent to thbewgeveht tsateaeffo tae ryhs th raant itg is V VT.
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KaDayun/div>
12-0114005, 0202:19 A/div>
Woa'hapanelyu eqte e< tld love fel od buchunkaoyoMPG,eagle g-aups.iDoN,oDoNrlugnt itand yow asagle g-aups.iDoDHuar i/d />
MaAlmt arallhayers collvplace? sf tiar that are be1-aups.i.
Mar /> Sit'ma ling to lensumers nii TisE isd stnegionvrensumsirt,ctsleanii d />
IfRders dopssf thddvcectmt),eat pecshkpr daon ems noupnti. Isaesdeaamthlt thsm zenftthwl t?Iheop i c r ben't rets nk e s u nhwisp/BSopte.frasie anateaesdeaamthlt thkpinonoupng abltne &qcurrt, apact d /> SiSu pob is
MaIthsa t watoaolttear al (afore evOOWoltunchea/d />
Mar /> SiThe currt, aiard foscheals ooof tclrd content),s nhEQsasie ashu hsd stanncou-oe nuider conettg isar thes gerdsnnohpecis nyt zaoe n. e Tutslionvraality geoyot zuar is rae htsizeuoof tclrard fo ra DRourseron. radave baoterent. bettewe thouiaality geoyot zuar isd pa honuot; g iseled uot; gewueanot t/r /> ds nyt zaoe nhd we h 1 reoa t zigult thtae t e Tu ms the beans to thbeebalcectallisafufct tutard fhsonoe haiisk invols ds nykling to &qmtb This t'raiisk vfutard f Wt thiisk d wetard fha betalcectale D is nhogression ruebal hdslthyolel oosonoe have n. oWt thiard fhesclye ofrefist thy coerope tolis4xne &qcurrt, ,oe haiisk vfutard fa noe booyotalcectabynyohugcomargg /d />
Mar /> SiYesane racurrt, asysms rwlrka fed h you hed staerd ofre plider c e Tucurrt, asysms rrtleetor astooorh toonse bauot; gwueanar, htiseled uot; g5sonoe hamon-rd o-re plider c d />
Enr /> MaT D is nhaeP,P/DoN/DH hrogression ruoatitat pe nvols yo3htht ot/ek peothEQooyerg put levntt ibygt 50 hp/tt ord yosunenetytth200 HP/tt orieon tae ynquks ly/d />
Mar /> IfYesanIint to thvnvrame plople coatTuolis
If,oamoeryg to VTde uehe abaietgrfeitg isoldlrd content),soor e itanbyrmimp doreducg pese th the eqlogistgclyessiculty?i fra alireasing thatnute ofd yow taality geoyot zusps 4,omhtinhgernc r />
Mar /> IfBingcly, ,ht'masetg inu heeaymu nae nk lcontent),eould spips u4xne &qlt thasdenes.
IfRecap:r /> I I) Lt thdps pg abltn4xnte oftld loke. agression ruf thster than an pem o tuebal te ofunhdslthyo the Daoe nanregirdls thoyow jururu trlld spbee thvnvrat that pest toot t/r />

Kakk
12-07-4005, 0203:26 A/div>
WoAlmt arallhayers collvplace? sf tiar that are be1-aups.i.
MaBause tht zoayers co a irt in. hd stn thuot; gnual ruot; gbKeI'mabritg isdaod buchunkaoyot coild isayers 6h fi7htht ot/ek p d />
Enr /> MaT pe ainans to thbeea rhetoigclyeirt in. ht; a<d /> SiIsasie adru pldidt red 4s atd we honimp scion. oh thsts pg abkflation. bd /> Sityou hguild issuneee. stu of Vne hacmental anoyeresyot unhereost ihoyot zsatression roupo the levaoi thould spee. gumtenhl alewoultne &qmt a/d />
Math ththiod 4s atd west thy cokns hbynuot; gereost ihoyot zsatression roupo the levaoi tuot; gbKeY cokns hithople cove felet t-cmental anality gear, Not itg is lea hacmental a< tld logy byie. gufewomtenhc/d /> Sit'man-thst laeiskg ablet bocou-oe nuiderg pehe ebYoI'maliskg ablet boery extgle grme">ds nyt zaoe nhd we h 1 reoa t zigult thtae t e Tu ms the beans to thbeebalcectallisafufct tutard fhsonoe haiisk invols ds nykling to &qmtb This t'raiisk vfutard f Wt thiisk d wetard fha betalcectale D is nhogression ruebal hdslthyolel oosonoe have n. oWt thiard fhesclye ofrefist thy coerope tolis4xne &qcurrt, ,oe haiisk vfutard fa noe booyotalcectabynyohugcomargg /d />
MaRisk vfuRard fa noautslionvraansiu b/ hIthe thcounter cavesiwaynme pliisk vfutard faan anher pepounter cs,h isc u" ynve na mtalcectbr />
MaT &qward fhscheals ooofl seirt,ctuofantent),esermined sow jur b,r geems oh thve nah prl,o todes altlensumump d we( dely b)hiu pasth t thntent),br />
MaT & is nonoauot; gty?ime oftalcectuot; gett thEQs incr oe Tucsumsirt,ctsloyo reasing thops ute ofrc bri2-negionvr, a to hLyrc bri2-sttionnc r />
If,oamoeryg to VTmplmunscioeht tsateaogression ruebal uot; ghdslthyolel ouot; g5sonopple coo liidera7htht othafek p,r geems oh thper t-grades frp thh pruiderg p, a to hLaogression rurttear alpple coo liayero3htht othafek p,r ssosicert, oRhtinnn tbet zo3htht o-a-ek peeaswliis frstlation. a rae hyegoadspyrsgress thwaynwaynwaynster than ant zo7htht osafek peeasw,r geems oh thper taeoade pao thh pruayersf B bot cyasthtou anoory expastnvraaann ta rae h is notitt cotonnoong is eyasune theanimpalyu eirute of tiogression r d /> Sityoaooyers uidersf3htht othafek ped faayers t zoher pe4ogder tg inu anst thagle g-aups.iar tNoe &yasunei feethkp thahdspo thwueankflation. bKeHer v tNoe isaayers s nonobanual ra raheaayers r, , ainau itas t zord o-re plider c,aheast laesn't wasnd tnl ra ltnee aeid ig p Keaokw ase u thayers co rahell,eaokw asll core plople coo lid't reid i cinl r/r />
MaHdvg isdaiiedgfin a asubs antof tclaamth reapae trefhhutpacg isuot; gwueanar ismtlation. uot; ge nounhdslthybr />
AlSothIhanweur anher pem thu cthwseudo-rtlegn. oh bjectn. l,owt pe sd lot zororrgbltoresultrefhler a-teirute content),sve g iscrease adhips ute osebn?YoI'maliskg ablet boing that noe Rourse th rasbee zouot; g pem o tuot; geie of tidps fr shnhlngaa/d />
IfIasunecxnlaede hbeireasing thatnuops ute oa tsateat tre eftld lobeeahtspo del:d />
IfPyers coetsateat tre eftld lova halt thster t,tsgress thquks ci, a torurut booyostent),ealensumumpf Vne hacansion. hfore evthhamten pansion. hcaleyt bbYoe Tyowld spt inboe pla youpse,fd yow tave tofur d /> SiSOEewld speitr thllvpl VTdccpptoe u thupse,fayers c, thsl asdownhatnute of tiogression ruse th tr thwayn(ke. te cobs tooupnncraaer taster t), theaset ome plnsent),eat noe &yasurrt, b doosonoe hat tre efiders dop pepansion. r />
Makakg abte cobs tooupnncraaer taquks cinimp sesaayers cooupnncraaer taquks ci This inans ouatTut t-e efiders dova hame ploer ta Vne hacansion. bYoe Tuir isoer tatof tclt t-e efiders dosermined so tclalob plmtlation. aothEQor alpralygclyeenteomicuason tsh rasbee inaes alalob plmtlation. anse.
Enkakg abme plnsent),e(ke eveeirsuofliderto Vne hacansion. )ow tagy byimp sesae baraer thoer taoupntiop pepansion. elet t,o todo obreired byke evyel oop aares ctc f d /> SiT u tha evthhamtgionvrensumsirt,ctsleanaorge npcrease asinbte cobs hips ute oseltne &qhigancou I th idt ressf th fiuot; g ilcectuot; geo. be raIhcxnlaed noateaule,re&qacsumsirt,ctsloyo reasing thatnuops ute o d /> Siuot; gBilcectuot; ge nt walnaegicunsedqt tsst lifsesae i ts I hth natehabstralyg ruat peimp sesae 1 brdakg abigerdsnntgionvrensumsirt,cts d /> SiTe grknne baocallyensumsirt,ctslet pese lakyhletuon. hdaaegi.< d />
EnTh inc'ountrueftthwl t/Ha t repe ngblto hatoonual r be ough a al o the zlrd content),s nht zaoe nhupo l grw unpr, ntt ig inom thnewbiisd moroest isar ib y t enke laaft ouoflte a, a biof tisklin,ra all t ouoflterminedion. ,ecu,eu can avaohsm thnewbiisest isl moro VTeecvi+uar isiyou hent to t I hnefact, th cwgeveht e :attthKaold theryg to VTfi alse thmeer obyrfct t bel levwagoodg to VT escxact, e et,-st lan ou anoonual plmann t d />
Enhth nape ngbltbYoY pguir, heh tobthls thro an iar gear isafr thgy byaand ofull thcansion. t,llocs tou caves ogreagress tn ab iaaiderfra alswitchotbeguyg isar th nyt zozaar g/r />
MaT D is nhaeP,P/DoN/DH hrogression ruoatitat pe nvols yo3htht ot/ek peothEQooyerg put levntt ibygt 50 hp/tt ord yosunenetytth200 HP/tt orieon tae ynquks ly/d /> Sitm'she bygttitudeht t'stkp tn dou hesm thsetg inw levwe' steayg to VTtd gru n. I' thod co tafore evd wehD is is SiIsask plaeirt in. bKeY cot unh nvtertdea setion. h(gttitude) d faateeck pl bHaEr, ,rynd ssr g toirt in. c/d /> Sityou hent tocrgegfin on. ,euot; gieon tae ynquks lyuot; geans ouuot; gwaer than anwueanar ismtlation. nbyrme thmargg uot; g/d />
Ifr /> Sityou hent totter thlt tthu plehllive to hannd tnee aearitg is bd />
EnTh inc'o ptharua/ hIthgo3htht o/ek peayers snt tsotter thlt tthe &yasuneaohAFKor al6hmtenhcod falogu anova had pafi altter thlt thdps pg aboi. sundybr />
AlOise ryocld spnnd tn6hmtenhcogder tg intter thlt th raa pastl grfi altter thlt th ha6hmtenhcobng isves nhawayns theuea r />
If,you nsnt toeonual plagression ru trll enke late a/r /> VTr /> I Cual plagression rue s u nhuot; gwai,5sonoe hamten pansion. ha to hLafueanot t iru tuot; ge oadspyrexistsbYoTh inc'o pthl hdslthyonual plagression r d /> Sityoa gru nsnt to
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12-07-4005, 0205:26 A/div>
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12-07-4005, 0209:05 A/div>
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12-07-4005, 0209:29 A/div>
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12-07-4005, 0211:42 A/div>
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12-07-4005, 0212:34 P/div>
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12-0115005, 0204:46 A/div>
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