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spanky_p
12-15-2005, 11:47 PM
I am stuck at 178 and I am tired of foraging. I want to move on to something else but the loom doesn't give me an option for anything better.

How do I get it to list the Acrylia stuff so I can start making that stuff?
Do I need to research or something and what?

This dye making is getting boring and old, time for something new.

Winenose
12-16-2005, 01:56 AM
You need to make one to learn the recipe and then it will show up in Loom.

spanky_p
12-16-2005, 11:26 AM
So just take the recipie off the internet and put the stuff that it says in the loom and combine and it will bring up the higher level stuff, is that correct?

Little Rhunt
12-16-2005, 12:29 PM
The loom, along with other tradeskill combine containers, cannot be depended on for skill up recipies that make sense. Also, as you have discovered, it will not show all the recipie options either.

Your best bet is to investigate what opportunites there are for you based on your access to certain types of ingrediants is at eqtraders.com.

vestix
12-16-2005, 09:36 PM
So just take the recipie off the internet and put the stuff that it says in the loom and combine and it will bring up the higher level stuff, is that correct?

Not quite. When you successfully make a combine, you will get a message to the effect of "you have learned the recipe ..." I'm not sure of the exact wording. From then on, that particular recipe will be available when you open the tradeskill container.

RuadhTheRed
12-19-2005, 02:40 PM
Tailoring options for skill 178+

179 - 187: LoY Cultural Ribbons (http://www.eqtraders.com/recipes/recipe_page.php?article=133&rsa=Tailoring&sb=item&sub=ribbon&menustr=080110040000)
The Platinum Ribbons triv at 182 & 187. Requires a foraged component(which often can be bought for cheap in the Bazaar), some brewing and a set of shears you have to smith yourself once.

188 - 222: Expert Cultural DoN Armor
For Human, Half Elves and Wood Elves, your only farmed component is High Quality Cat Pelts and for Halflings, High Quality Wolf Pelts, all of which are plentiful in the Karanas. Humans also have the option of Drachnid Silk from Drachnids in Firiona Vie (and elsewhere in Kunark). Overview of Cultural DoN Armor here (http://www.eqtraders.com/articles/article_page.php?article=q182&menustr=120030000000). Chart of farmabale items for all races here (http://home.comcast.net/~drexxell/eq/donfarming.html).

The two examples below are the wood elf version (the race of the original poster.) You can see the recipes for your race here (http://www.eqtraders.com/articles/article_page.php?article=g67&menustr=080040000000).

Triv 192: Expert's Brambleborn Gloves (http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=19036&menustr=080040120080) - 1 swatch

Triv 222: Expert's Brambleborn Sleeves (http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=19033&menustr=080040120080) - 1 swatch

223 - 242: Acrylia Reinforced Gorget (http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=1593&menustr=035000000000)
This requires farming 1 Flawless Rockhopper Hide from the Rockhopper Caves in Dawnshroud Peaks and some Acrylia (primarily from Grimlings in the Grimling Forest and Tenebrous Mtns) per combine.

243 - 252: Arctic Wyvern Belt (http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=2292&menustr=080110100000)
In addition to Arctic Wyvern hides (Wyverns are in Cobals Scar), you will need to fish for cod (also in Cobalt Scar) and farm some velium (Crystal Caverns excellent for this.)

Alternate Routes to 252:
Epicthiecks' Power Belt (http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=20845&menustr=080110237000)
The 1 farmed component is easy to get (entrails from reapers in Corathus Creep), but the purchased component makes the cost of this route expensive. Some money is offset by selling the successes to a merchant.

Ceremonial Solstice Robe: (http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=1473&menustr=035000000000)
The expensive component in this combine (gem studded chain) is returned upon failure, so its best to try this when your tailoring skill is much lower. (You want skill ups, but you also want failures so you don't have to remake the Chain.) Silk drops quickly from East Karana spiders. Other tradeskills needed for subcomponents (smithing, jewlery, etc)

If you have access to Ikkinz and Kod'taz in GoD, you can use Aged Muramite Scales to make whips at trivial 202, 231 & 242. List is here: http://www.eqtraders.com/search/search.php


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At 252 you need to ask what your tailoring goals are. If you simply want to be a 300 tailor, then skip ahead.

If you are only trying to make Grandmaster DoN Tailored armor for yourself (*the* best non-raid armor in the game), then you may want to stop at skill 252 and drop 18 AAs into Omens AA Tailoring Mastery. It reduces failure rates by 50%. Which means you can attempt GM DoN Tailored armor at skill level 252 (with a tailoring geerlok) with a 50% success rate.

You may also want to invest 15 AAs into the Omens AA Salvage which gives you chance of regaining a component upon a combine failure. The GM DoN Tailored armor requires a component that can cost 12-25k in the Bazaar. Something to consider.

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For you masochists, to make it through the long haul to 300, you need to do a mix of Velious farming (Othmir and Holgresh) and Master's DoN Cultural Tailoring to avoid burning out on any one recipe. Also, you are looking at 200p+ per combine from purchased components.

Othmir items: Othmirs can be farmed in Cobalt Scar. There are 3 camps. You will ruin your faction with them, but it mostly means having someone else buy from them if you need their vendor sold components. Also, you will have to do a work around on your Epic 1.5. In addition to the fur, you will need some enchanter made components.

Holgresh items: Holgresh are flying monkeys that can be found in the west end of the Wakening Lands. Enchanter made components (expensive) also needed.

Master DoN Cultural Tailored items: Humans and wood elves can farm shissar scales from the snake guys in Ssra Temple. Humans can also use Storm Volass Hair from Ocean Giants in Plane of Storms. Half Elves and Halflings however must use Great Reptile Hides which very rarely drop. HE's and HLF's may consider skipping this route unless they see a patch message addressing this.

Triv 262: Othmir Fur Cap (http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=2503&menustr=035000000000) - 2 hides

Triv 263: Master's Brambleborn Gloves (http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=19043&menustr=080040120080) - 1 swatch

Triv 268: Holgresh Fur Cap (http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=2505&menustr=080110140000) - 2 hides

Triv 268: Othmir Fur Moccasins (http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=2504&menustr=080110140000) - 3 hides

Triv 282: Holgresh Fur Moccasins (http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=2507&menustr=080110140000) - 3 hides

Triv 290: Master's Brambleborn Sleeves (http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=19040&menustr=080040120080) - 1 swatch

Triv 295: Othmir Fur Cloak (http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=2331&menustr=080110140000) - 4 hides

Triv 304: Master's Brambleborn Cuirass (http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=19041&menustr=080040120080) - 3 swatches

Triv 322: Holgresh Fur Cloak (http://www.eqtraders.com/items/show_item.php?item=2506&menustr=080110140000)- 4 hides


Resources I pulled from. Check them out if you wish to look into this further:

EQTraders (http://www.eqtraders.com/articles/news_page.php?menustr=010000000000) (comprehensive database of tradeskills and guides)
EQTraders Tailoring Message Board (http://mboards.eqtraders.com/eq/forumdisplay.php?f=22) (lots of commonly asked questions)

EDIT: Incorporated some excellent suggestions from this thread.

sliggoth
12-21-2005, 12:24 AM
One other recipe that should be considered is the new Dod coruthus entrails combine...trivs at 250-254, somewhere in that range. Can use it to replace the wyvern, or as a supplement to it now.


Sliggoth, druid/ tradeskiller of 7th Hammer

RuadhTheRed
12-21-2005, 07:22 PM
That's the belt I mentioned as an alternate to 252, Epicthiecks' Power Belt.

jeromie
12-21-2005, 07:39 PM
solstice robes are trivial 252

Nimchip
12-22-2005, 05:51 PM
That's the belt I mentioned as an alternate to 252, Epicthiecks' Power Belt.

Which are super expensive to make... but if you have the cash, go for it.

Personally im at 295 atm. I went with this route as a Wood Elf:

1) LoY ribbons to about 170ish

2) Expert's Brambleborn to 220ish
farm High Quality Cat pelts in EK... don't listen to anyone that says Stonebrunt. EK is much much better for HQ cat pelts

3) Solstice Robes to 240ish
I advice you to work your JM first so that you can take advantage of skilling up on Gem Studded Chains... however at 220ish I shouldn't have started doing solstice robes due to the success rate. You might wanna look into something else

4) Epicthieck's Power Belt to 252
Corathus Entrails are super easy to farm. With each of these you can do 2 combines that trivial 252. However, the platinum thread for each of those is expensive.

5) Master's Brambleborn bracers to 260ish
Time to farm Ssra if you're a wood elf :(

6) Master's Brambleborn sleeves to 290

7) Master's brambleborn cuirass/leggings to 300, i am at this step of course.

spanky_p
12-24-2005, 02:48 AM
OK I did the ribbons thing to 176 but those platinum ribbons are high. I was told to try the Celestial Robes. Yeah right I made enough components for 40 tries and only made it to 183. Need a better route. I think I am going to go back to the Cultural stuff. I just got tired of farming Holgresh in WE and the HQ Cat Pelts in Stoneroot. Farming these items suck big time. I think the drop rate on these is rediculous. and the only 3 I found in bazaar were 15k each. HMM, thought about selling mine for that. The Holgresh are easy I med to full in the cave entrance. Run in and aggro all thecast AE lightning. then loot and med till they pop again. Not as boring as the cats. Ran around for 2 weeks now tracking them and killing them. I got 17 to drop and 12 were in the same night not sure what was up with that night. 4 hours a night forming cats to get 2 or 3 not good.

Anyone know a better way to get these pelts please speak up and loud?

Nimchip
12-25-2005, 05:17 PM
OK I did the ribbons thing to 176 but those platinum ribbons are high. I was told to try the Celestial Robes. Yeah right I made enough components for 40 tries and only made it to 183. Need a better route. I think I am going to go back to the Cultural stuff. I just got tired of farming Holgresh in WE and the HQ Cat Pelts in Stoneroot. Farming these items suck big time. I think the drop rate on these is rediculous. and the only 3 I found in bazaar were 15k each. HMM, thought about selling mine for that. The Holgresh are easy I med to full in the cave entrance. Run in and aggro all thecast AE lightning. then loot and med till they pop again. Not as boring as the cats. Ran around for 2 weeks now tracking them and killing them. I got 17 to drop and 12 were in the same night not sure what was up with that night. 4 hours a night forming cats to get 2 or 3 not good.

Anyone know a better way to get these pelts please speak up and loud?

7 skillups after 40 tries is actually good good stuff! Tailoring is super hard, expect to get a skill up ever stack or 20 tries... at best.

You're at 183, so why exactly are you getting Holgresh pelts? You want to sell them or something? Holgresh is only good after 260ish or so.

Like i said best place for HQ Cat Pelts is in Eastern Karanas. Druids get a port there, "succor: east". Port there and start killing spiders and lions / lioness. The thing is that if you only kill the cats there's a chance that they might repop as snakes or other type of mob, so you have to kill everything on sight if you don't see enough lions / lionesses.

And trust me, EK is the best spot for High Quality cat pelts.

Tuppet
12-27-2005, 01:35 PM
No one mentioned GoD whips?? check out whips at eqtraders.com

search for, whip cracker.
then use the reverse-lookup for both whip cracker and snake whip cracker.

you make them from hynid manes that drop in GoD. Try to use whip recipes that only use one(1) whip cracker before trying the recipes that require two.

they can go as high as 242.

good luck!

Tuppet
12-27-2005, 01:37 PM
about pelts, have you tried nedaria's landing? the mobs (panthers) tend to drop medium to high quality pelts also. i would say that medium is more common, however.

... just another suggestion to throw on the table ;)

Nimchip
12-28-2005, 01:14 PM
GoD whips are useful but not many people hunt in GoD nowadays, so they are slightly harder to farm. Well i could be wrong and the OP might be farming Vxed/Tipts :p

And for expert armor you need High Quality cat pelts, not mediums :\

bilmani
12-28-2005, 03:26 PM
Epicthieck's Power Belt is the way to go. A guildie of mine got from 150 to 252 with them in a weekend. All he did was get a task to farm corathus entrails. He would do a sweep drop and repick the task.

Tuppet
12-28-2005, 03:59 PM
GoD whips are useful but not many people hunt in GoD nowadays, so they are slightly harder to farm. Well i could be wrong and the OP might be farming Vxed/Tipts :p

And for expert armor you need High Quality cat pelts, not mediums :\
suppose it's server-dependent. you won't find many in the zaar but usually sell for 150pp or less; i pick them up for <100.

as a druid, you can DC a hynid and absolutely plow through natimbi. there are two hynid 'camps'. just be aware of when midnight approaches and the CBQ spawns.

as far as pelts go, i prefer nedaria's because i can use medium pelts also (for whips ;D) as well as the highs. maybe it's my personal experience but I do not get as many ruined-low pelts in nedaria's compared to the karanas.


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btw - thanks for the info on Epicthieck's Power Belt. I will definitely check it out!!

Nimchip
12-28-2005, 05:54 PM
suppose it's server-dependent. you won't find many in the zaar but usually sell for 150pp or less; i pick them up for <100.

as a druid, you can DC a hynid and absolutely plow through natimbi. there are two hynid 'camps'. just be aware of when midnight approaches and the CBQ spawns.

as far as pelts go, i prefer nedaria's because i can use medium pelts also (for whips ;D) as well as the highs. maybe it's my personal experience but I do not get as many ruined-low pelts in nedaria's compared to the karanas.


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btw - thanks for the info on Epicthieck's Power Belt. I will definitely check it out!!

Yea power belts are expensive per combine though, but they are excellent if you have the cash. Plus CC Corathi seem to drop em often.

So this is a good camp for you in Nedaria? Is it good drop rate? That's great info for druids that wanna do tailoring, so asking on their behalf (i'm at 295 personally)

Taeyn Kaidyrsi
12-28-2005, 05:57 PM
as far as pelts go, i prefer nedaria's because i can use medium pelts also (for whips ;D) as well as the highs. maybe it's my personal experience but I do not get as many ruined-low pelts in nedaria's compared to the karanas.
I leveled quite a few alts in Nedaria's Landing. Not sure I remember ever getting ruined pelts. Plant Shoots or the dye made from Plant Shoots were always good sellers in the Bazaar. Don't know if they still are.

Tuppet
12-30-2005, 11:14 AM
I'd have to drop a few more mobs before stating anything Nim. During my time in Nedaria's, my attention was solely turned towards the mediums.

sweet thing about mediums is that you can turn them into the Dar Forger in frog city (Rathe Mountains) for highs http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=2317
3 mediums for 1 high.

Nimchip
12-30-2005, 05:08 PM
I'd have to drop a few more mobs before stating anything Nim. During my time in Nedaria's, my attention was solely turned towards the mediums.

sweet thing about mediums is that you can turn them into the Dar Forger in frog city (Rathe Mountains) for highs http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=2317
3 mediums for 1 high.

That quest doesn't work anymore I believe was posted in EQTraders and aknowledged by Ngreth.

sliggoth
01-03-2006, 09:15 AM
As Nimchip stated, 7 skill ups for 40 tries is VERY good. If you are planning on going to 300 expect to eventually see one skill up per 20-30 tries.

Save the holgresh for later, you will become tired enough of farming them when you get to that point.

The don cultural has (Soe has proclaimed and data seems to back them up) an increased skill up chance over other items, so you may want to stick to that stuff. Be happy that wood elves can farm ssra for scales, some races have really hard paths.

Solstice robes are used so much as a skill up path because the ingredients are probably the easiest to farm in mass quantities. Arctic wyvern make a somewhat cheaper alternative while still being farmable in large quantities.


The main thing is: Tailoring is the hardest trade skill to get to 300. (Fletching for those poor people who arent wood elves or karana followers, but we arent worried about those poor souls here) Expect it to take a long time and be happy when you get one skill up from an hours farming.


Sliggoth, druid/ tradskiller of 7th Hammer (all 300 skill- druid tradeskillers rule)

Tuppet
01-03-2006, 10:47 AM
That quest doesn't work anymore I believe was posted in EQTraders and aknowledged by Ngreth.

/sigh. day late, dollar short. i didn't get the memo.

Zacory
01-06-2006, 12:55 PM
Epicthieck's Power Belt is the way to go. A guildie of mine got from 150 to 252 with them in a weekend. All he did was get a task to farm corathus entrails. He would do a sweep drop and repick the task.

I've been looking in Allakhazam for the task to farm Corathus entrails but was unable to find it. Does anyone know what the name of this task is and where it starts?

Nimchip
01-06-2006, 02:13 PM
I've been looking in Allakhazam for the task to farm Corathus entrails but was unable to find it. Does anyone know what the name of this task is and where it starts?

Hmm, not really.

I got a ton of entrails while trying to get faction up to get the Belfast arc in the Reaper camp. Lots of corathi there that people won't mind you taking since all they are after is reapers i guess.

Galain
01-06-2006, 02:29 PM
Yeah right I made enough components for 40 tries and only made it to 183. Need a better route.

Oh what I would have given for continuous runs of 7 skillups per 40 combines. Have fun when you hit 100+ and 200+ attempts without a skillup. My personal best was 342 for 1 skillup.

Epicthieck's Power Belt is the way to go. A guildie of mine got from 150 to 252 with them in a weekend. All he did was get a task to farm corathus entrails. He would do a sweep drop and repick the task.

I am guessing you mean Belfast 1. When you go down the first elevator you are attacked by a swarm of corathus that die with 1 low level AE. I could see getting a ton of entrails that way.

Galain
01-06-2006, 02:36 PM
Forgot to add. Don't have a DS on when you go down the elevator or else you won't be able to loot them since they will die without you ever doing real damage.

RuadhTheRed
01-07-2006, 11:44 AM
FYI, the Dar Forager froglok in the Rathe Mtns tent city DOES upgrade wolf, bear and cat pelts, but only if you are a froglok yourself. There is a racial check now. So make yourself a L1 Froglok and skip the tutorial. I tested this out a few days ago and worked for me.

Grenoble
01-08-2006, 03:11 PM
I also got a lot of entrails just hanging with a group (they were helping my SK level a bit) in Undershore, on the shoreline a little ways below the prophet's camp.

There's a mission giver right there, too, and his name escapes me atm, but if you aren't attacking the mushroom dudes, comfortable steady camp with room to pull (kiting would be a bit tight though).