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Aldier
04-11-2006, 12:06 PM
I hate when people ask me for buffs when they have a druid already in their group on raids. OMG... PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR GROUP.

(not counting the times the other druid is just trying to be lazy or just rezzed.)

Tenielle
04-11-2006, 02:32 PM
I hate when people ask me for buffs when they have a druid already in their group on raids. OMG... PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR GROUP.

(not counting the times the other druid is just trying to be lazy or just rezzed.)

we're all buff offenders at some point or another whether we like to admit it or not. my only personal pet peeve is people that don't use /tar ten, /tt oak plz to make sure I'm in range to buff them. it's actually easier to type out than /tell tenielle oak plz and despite my preaching, some never learn. if I type /rt and nothing comes up, they get ignored.

Minadin
04-11-2006, 02:44 PM
I had a cleric in my group ask me for 10 while I was dead last night.

Grenoble
04-11-2006, 03:09 PM
As a buffee and not a buffer: I always ask in group first. If I get no response within several minutes, I actually look for the nearest person who can give the buff I want.

During raids, a lot of our buffers only respond to /t. They don't read /g or /gu.

Fenier
04-12-2006, 07:46 AM
I personally don't take requests for Buffs. If People want something - they can ask me for it.

Things I hate:

1: Asking for Oak with Random Buff which blocks it on
2: Asking for Lion's (I dislike casting the same buff 5 times - group verison please)
3: Being buffed by another Druid with no Buff Extension (IE - Seasons lasts 255 minutes - another druid decides to hit my group, buff duration drops to 150~ minutes.
4: The person asking for th ebuff being out of range.
5: The person asking for a buff they don't need. (Seasons on a mob which only aes in PR/DR - as example).

-Fenier

Tenidina
04-12-2006, 08:11 AM
3: Being buffed by another Druid with no Buff Extension (IE - Seasons lasts 255 minutes - another druid decides to hit my group, buff duration drops to 150~ minutes.

Have to agree with that one. Hate it when someone with no buff extension masses oak after I already did it (120 minute versus 175 minute mass oak makes me cry)

Another peeve - Asking me for oak right after I massed it when there are 3 other druids sitting there doing nothing.

Kamion
04-12-2006, 09:09 AM
The only complaint I have about buffing is when when the raid sits there medding up for a mob and I'm burning at 100% mana for 5 minutes than 30 seconds before we engage I get 3 requests for oak -- and being that 99% of EQ players are smartasses, if you complain about it you'll just get spammed with more last minute oak requests from people thinkin' they're funny~

Bacchuss
04-12-2006, 11:45 AM
I just send a /rs send tells for druid love

If I dont see it in guild or raid say, I dont sweat it.

tatankawd
04-12-2006, 12:57 PM
I personally don't take requests for Buffs. If People want something - they can ask me for it. -Fenier

For some reason, this really cracks me up :)

Tat

Juniper
04-12-2006, 01:07 PM
2: Asking for Lion's (I dislike casting the same buff 5 times - group verison please)

So you'll spend a portion of difficult fights debuffing ATK on a mob, but won't buff melee with a modifier? This I have never understood about you in groups, Fenier. Why go on and on for pages and pages about Druid utility and not access the full toolkit?

This isn't written as a personal attack, you are just generally much more sensible than this.

tatankawd
04-12-2006, 01:12 PM
Speaking of Lion's, what does it actually DO?

Does it add 5% to 1HS/1HB/etc skills? Or is it adding 5% to actual damage done? Before or after crits/other mods? Or something else entirely?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Tat

Dari
04-12-2006, 02:03 PM
I don't mind buffing at all on raids. It's part of my job. I have a hotkey "/rs /tell me for oak (take that cleric crap or your group oak off first), lion or seasons"

What I DO mind is someone saying in /guild or /raid or /say "BUFF ME!" or someone who goes afk all the time, including during events. Last week I watched someone die during Ture because he was afk. He was in my group and I could tell he had Wanton on and I said several times, "If you need cure, holler". He never did. I checked and hott pulled up nothing. So I let him die and laughed about it in our healer channel. Likewise, if someone wants a cure or a buff from me, they better /t me so I can /rt and hit them. I ignore open requests. I will, however, buff newly rezzed immediately.

I am constantly buffing our dps classes with lion. I would LOVE a group version, but I really don't mind at all hitting however many people with it that want it-it adds to the entity effectiveness and I LIKE having a utility spell that people appreciate.

Often I get asked for oak by people who have a druid in their group already. Sometimes it's because that druid is afk, sometimes it's because I'm their preferred druid for whatever reason. It doesn't matter. I buff and move on. If I hit /rt and nothing comes up I tell them they are oor and they usually move to ME and ask again. Seems simple enough.

Fenier
04-12-2006, 02:06 PM
For some reason, this really cracks me up :)

Tat

As in, I am not all Like HEY LOOKIE ME, SEND ME TELLS FOR BUFFS!?!

If people notice they are missing something, and ask me (in a tell) they will get it. I am not going to advertise I am a Druid.

-Fenier

Fenier
04-12-2006, 02:11 PM
So you'll spend a portion of difficult fights debuffing ATK on a mob, but won't buff melee with a modifier? This I have never understood about you in groups, Fenier. Why go on and on for pages and pages about Druid utility and not access the full toolkit?
I stopped buffing people with Strength in my 50s. Its in the same Context Menu (which I use to load spells). The Only buffs which is ever loaded with a spell set is Steeloak - Single Target and Reptile. I swap in the other spells one at a time.

My normal Sabby Spellset is:

SI
KR
Dawnstrike
HoR
Moonshadow / Serpent's Vines
SC
Reptile
Succor / Regen / Group DS / Whatever else
OG

So, I have been going past that Context Menu for years now, and its not quite clicked with me. I don't like buffing strength to begin with. I do buff Lions if DPS is a prime concern on a fight, but normally it never crosses my mind unless someone asks me for it (at which point since its up I'll hit everyone with it).

Then again, this is probabaly due to the fact that for over a year after Omens I was in a Raiding guild in which Shamans did Might / Group Might. I would perfer to let them deal with it.

-Fenier

tatankawd
04-12-2006, 04:39 PM
Yeah, it's interesting about Lion appearring in the STR menu. When I got it, my warrior was below 61, so I couldn't cast it on him. When he dinged 61, I cast it, and was mystified when his STR didn't change. I was seriously confused til I checked Lucy and saw the 5% modifier. I guess they lump it in with the STR buffs since it's got "Strength" in the name :)

Tat

Netura
04-12-2006, 05:51 PM
So, I have been going past that Context Menu for years now, and its not quite clicked with me. I don't like buffing strength to begin with. I do buff Lions if DPS is a prime concern on a fight, but normally it never crosses my mind unless someone asks me for it (at which point since its up I'll hit everyone with it).
Lions lasts for over 1.5 hours with just aa duration...not using it is a waste.

Juniper
04-12-2006, 05:56 PM
True, but if Shaman don't get to cast Might/Champion, they'll have nothing to complain about in group and may as well be invisible. I know of like, one Shaman that doesn't constantly bitch about buffing people.

"OMG I NEED MELEE IN GROUP FOR CHAMP!"

(10 minutes pass)

"OMG CHAMP COSTS TOO MUCH MANA WTF!"

Alei
04-12-2006, 11:36 PM
It's kinda annoying when someone has group Steeloak on whatever and it gets blocked trying to cast a single shot of Steeloak on them. So, I made a hotkey...

/rt
/tt SS inc.. Click off group SS or [Insert threat]
/pause 20 (To give them time to click off group SS)
/cast 8

It helps, but of course every now and then there is someone that it won't hold on.
If someone isn't targetable by /rt, then I tell them I can't target them and they come to me. :)

Kamion
04-12-2006, 11:46 PM
Lions hit = 1.05*(hit), so lions will turn a 100 hp hit into a 105 hp hit. It essentially raises dps from melee hits by 5%.

Sildan
04-13-2006, 01:09 AM
The term '10' Pisses me off.
If you ask for 10 you will get nothing but attitude from me <G>

Fanra
04-13-2006, 07:31 AM
Call it 10, call it oak, call it steeloak, why care?

The purpose of language is to communicate. As long as both sides understand what is meant, anything goes.

What bothers me is people who don't /tar Fanra before asking. I can't buff someone when I'm not even in the same zone, never mind out of range.

Taeyn Kaidyrsi
04-13-2006, 08:26 AM
I pretty much always cast group Oak when I get a raid tell for Oak when we're buffing. Odds are, I'll get tells from others in that group for Oak within the next few minutes. It doesn't cause problems with mana for me, and I'd rather cast once and be done, then three or more separate times.

mordien
04-13-2006, 08:29 AM
One of my favorites is still, "Can I get Oak/seasons when I get in zone."

Well first thing I do is hit /rt b/c I really don't read further than can i get oak. Do they expect me to just keep typing /who all XXXX, to check their progress getting into the zone and the moment they zone in buff them?

JUST ASK WHEN YOU ZONE IN.

stratofortress
04-13-2006, 02:32 PM
I like when they ask for buffs and I do /rt and get them on target and begin to cast Oak/FoE/Seasons and then I get an OOR message... they have run off. For the rest of that raid I ignore them as punishment.

Nimchip
04-13-2006, 06:30 PM
The term '10' Pisses me off.
If you ask for 10 you will get nothing but attitude from me <G>
agreed

Tenidina
04-13-2006, 10:38 PM
There are even 2 or 3 people who pissed me off so much, if they ask me for oak, they get cabbage!

RalaniRavier
04-14-2006, 02:00 PM
I don't mind buffing anyone when they ask for it, But my 2 greatest pet peeves are ...

1) Buffing with Lion's Strength then getting the "Your Lion's Strength spell has worn of XXX" spam for everyone I just casted it on, because some shaman has just casted the Might/or group version. /mumbles and deletes LS from the spell book.


2) People that wait til we are running to engage the mob to ask for "Oak and seasons" after we just stood there for 10 mins rebuffing and medding up. Most the time if that happens, they "might" get Oak since that is normally on my spell set during a raid, even during the actual fight, since a tank may die and I will re-buff Steeloak on them as soon as I see them rezzed, but any other buff, usually is not, so they are going to wait or do without.

Aldier
04-14-2006, 06:00 PM
Just had another "fun" buffing experience.

Getting 3 groups all asking for Oak at the same time.

WHY do we have such a long recast timer on Group Oak???

Netura
04-15-2006, 12:39 AM
Because it was an uber 772hp group heal, and we need long recasts on em! ~_~

Sildan
04-15-2006, 12:40 AM
Just had another "fun" buffing experience.

Getting 3 groups all asking for Oak at the same time.

WHY do we have such a long recast timer on Group Oak???

I always thought it might have been to prevent us from using the spell as a group heal due to the fact that it adds the HP immediately. Chain casting while expensive could be used in that way.

Taeyn Kaidyrsi
04-15-2006, 08:52 AM
Blessing of Steeloak is 6 sec cast time, 18 sec recast time?

Hand of Conviction is 24 sec cast time, 2.25 sec recast.

Pity.


Then too, only stubborn pallies get Conviction instead of Oak and symbol :wink:

Tenidina
04-15-2006, 12:52 PM
2) People that wait til we are running to engage the mob to ask for "Oak and seasons" after we just stood there for 10 mins rebuffing and medding up. Most the time if that happens, they "might" get Oak since that is normally on my spell set during a raid, even during the actual fight, since a tank may die and I will re-buff Steeloak on them as soon as I see them rezzed, but any other buff, usually is not, so they are going to wait or do without.

This happened the other day in Tacvi. We were doing the (/yawn) Balancing Mob, and they had me set up to be the tank from 100-90%. ANnounced it repeatedly in guild chat, had DI on, count at 10, and some rogue asks me for oak.

I won't repeat here what I told him, but needless to say, i think after that, he might go buffless before asking me for oak again as we engage a mob.

Soloun
04-15-2006, 08:42 PM
Asking for 10 is fine, I don't see the need to spell it out, as long as you understand the message, it works.

As for last min request for 10/seasons what have you, it happens all the time and is a pita.

Our guild still uses a rez team most of the time, one of their jobs is to handle buffs. This is mentioned at the beginning of the raid in CAPS giving their names and they are always group 12, so if you miss the names you just use the raid window, simple and easy. Yet I still get people asking me for buffs, mid fight, just before we engage etc. people still just put in the general channel, 10 please and so on, they are to busy, important or special to send a tell, how they actually get to the raid is beyond me :)

I agree about Lion, ok spell but why bother, when I first got it I used it all the time, and kept seeing it has worn off all the time. I cast if asked now and when I am grouping without a shammy, but thats about it.

Generally I now fig people should know what buffs they need and be able to ask the appropriate person for that buff at an appropriate time. I should not have to ask them if they need 10, Lion, Seasons or a hand to hold. If you want the buff send a tell, be in range, and for gods sake sort your buffs out before we rush in on the next mob.

Don't get me started on calling out for a cure, I mean ffs people, honest to god I CAN NOT SEE YOUR SCREEN FROM HERE, I **** you not :), if your in my group and your hp is dropping fast I can fig it out, but I will generally be curing those who actually CALLED for a cure as I KNOW they need it.

/rant off thanks for that, I feel better :)

Bauhb
04-17-2006, 02:41 PM
What really annoys me is when the raid has wiped and someone is asking me for oak when it should be obvious that i'm about to MGB it, seeing as, you know, we wiped and everyone is going to need it.

Naeyene
04-17-2006, 02:52 PM
I think my favorite is when I am looting my corpse and I am getting asked for buffs... /sighs

Minadin
04-21-2006, 01:54 PM
We still have clerics in our guild that take viction and their self buff over steeloak and balikor. I was told by one that they did it because it took up fewer buff slots. I guess that's because wunshi doesn't stack with their lineup? /boggle

I was trying to explain to a ranger in our guild (I do lions on all the melee DPS types before MPG trials) not to click off Lions, because it would help his DPS for the trial, and he replied "but my STR is maxxed".

Calling for cures at like 3% health also cracks me up.

Asking for SoE / FoE indoors . . .

And in one instance, a long time ago, I had a request for a punt out of chardok . . . sent to my dual-weilding, chain wearing, level 38 woodelf rogue. It was just wrong on so many levels.

Keyera
04-21-2006, 06:33 PM
"We still have clerics in our guild that take viction and their self buff over steeloak and balikor."

there are a couple of reasons for this, you named one, available buff slots. i myself am almost to the point of going back to self buffs. so many utility buffs from items (mask, sholders (i used my bagged sholder buff, mana regen buff),range item) are starting to add too many buffs. for a cleric to use Bail/Oak, it takes 4 buff slots instead of two.

1. Bail, Oak, Wushi, WoV. = more hp, same mana regen as self buffs, less AC

2. Viction, AOTZ = 600 or so less hp, same mana regen more AC.

so you can see someone that is buff slot chalenged, they may choose to go with self buffs.

another reason is duration of the buffs. viction and self buff last over 4 hours for alot of higher end clerics. no need to re buff as often, less classes to get buffs from. only need to bother pallies for BBB. but if go with Bail/Oak, need to get from druid, pally, shammy.

now other classes except for pallies, they end up with more hp if they go with druid/cleric combo. + casters need the mana regen from Oak, clerics self buff does the same.

just a little FYI ;-)

Kamion
04-24-2006, 01:12 PM
1. Bail, Oak, Wushi, WoV. = more hp, same mana regen as self buffs, less AC

Honestly, how important is WoV for a cleric?

Yes, I'm aware that your ac softcap has recently been adjusted - but most raiding clerics have at leats 2k+ ac unbuffed; since the old AC softcap was ~1,300 for most mobs, I would assume that 2k ac is enough ac (even with the changes) to be over the new softcaps. And yes I know l33t knights have parses about how if your at X AC you can overcome the softcap, but I'ld never seen proof that it applies to priests, not to count that you'ld need a LOT of ac as a caster to get in the AC ranges required to do this.

Palarran
04-24-2006, 01:33 PM
Steeloak + WoV gives more AC than Conviction.

Steeloak(43) + WoV(72) = 115
Conviction = 94

Kamion
04-24-2006, 02:59 PM
Steeloak + WoV gives more AC than Conviction.

Steeloak(43) + WoV(72) = 115
Conviction = 94

Key was refering to a cleric self only buff, Armor of the Pious (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=5276&source=Live). 94 + 46 = 140, which is 25 more than oak/ward.

Keyera
04-24-2006, 05:41 PM
to me, more ac the better, as long as it means more hp as well. so i still perfer having WoV on, puts me over 2.5k ac when i have warrior arua and bard song. ( i know, i am a strange cleric, i prefer to live to heal more, so i have always focused on regen/HP/then mana, others go for the bigger pool, to me, 1k or so mana not going to do much as it is all about regen and how you use it, is why i have all hp augs, woo hoo, in anguish now so this is almost a mute point now as i will have both mana and hp together on augs soon)

but like i said with all of the clickies i now use, i am almost to the point of going to viction and self buff. altho, you have a point about just dropping WoV, i would prob prefer to lose that AC than the HP going to self buff and viction. especialy since the new warrior arura is new, and i could concider it a replacement for WoV.

Fenlayen
04-25-2006, 05:50 AM
I never really cast WoV on myself, infact the only time I mem the damm spell is when someone asks me for it :shuffle: It's a pain in the ass spell that cost to much mana for the benefit.

For raids I get Oak+Balk+wunshi. For groups I tend to go Conv+AotP mainly for the duration.

Keyera
04-25-2006, 05:57 AM
i will prob think the same when i am 2.5k ac unbuffed ;-P

Marrvell
05-01-2006, 10:59 PM
The term '10' Pisses me off.
If you ask for 10 you will get nothing but attitude from me <G>

I couldn't agree more. I absolutely will not buff anyone with anything who asks me for anything called "10." I admit that I have been known to cast Skin like Wood on those who ask for this thing called "10" and proceed to laugh as they attempt to figure out why they are missing HPs, if they notice at all.

Fenlayen
05-02-2006, 07:51 AM
You'd be suprised how many times when someone has asked me for "symbol" I've cast naltrons on them and they haven't noticed :elfbiggri

Dayuna
05-02-2006, 11:58 AM
Skin like Wood has the same icon as Steeloak Skin iirc >=) That's a fun one to pull on your friends.

Alei
05-02-2006, 03:59 PM
You'd be suprised how many times when someone has asked me for "symbol" I've cast naltrons on them and they haven't noticed

Maybe I'm just a noob, but what's wrong with saying "symbol"? Isn't that at least in the name of your single cast versions of "SYMBOL"?

At least I can understand what's wrong with saying "10", but I wouldn't refuse to buff someone or give them SLW or something for saying it. You guys are too uptight, Lol. :)

Dayuna
05-02-2006, 06:06 PM
I do it to friends as a joke, never on raids or groups or people I don't know well. =p I'd imagine Fen does that for a similar reason.

Fenlayen
05-03-2006, 05:13 AM
I do it to friends as a joke, never on raids or groups or people I don't know well. =p I'd imagine Fen does that for a similar reason.

Well that's the main reason but could also be the fact that I'm just a nasty person :texla:

Netura
05-03-2006, 09:00 AM
And a dirty gn0me.

Fenlayen
05-03-2006, 10:37 AM
And a dirty gn0me.

Shup you tree hugging pie eater !!

Cake > PIE !!! :sumo: :sumo:

Netura
05-03-2006, 11:30 AM
You only say that cuz Dorah doesn't make you pie like I did...damn non-domesticated halflings!

Fenlayen
05-03-2006, 01:15 PM
You only say that cuz Dorah doesn't make you pie like I did...damn non-domesticated halflings!

/sigh i've told Dorah about this thread and your days are numbered Pie man :sumo:

Netura
05-03-2006, 01:27 PM
If that means you guys are coming to E-marr to slay me, I will take it happily, and accept a non-rezzed death :)

MissDorah
05-03-2006, 01:33 PM
You only say that cuz Dorah doesn't make you pie like I did...damn non-domesticated halflings!

Fen isnt worthy of my pies ! :cool:

Dorah

Fenlayen
05-04-2006, 07:00 AM
Fen isnt worthy of my pies ! :cool:

Dorah

That made me cry in RL !! :behindcom

MissDorah
05-04-2006, 08:15 AM
That made me cry in RL !! :behindcom

Awwww.. I have some chocolate ice cream cake I made in game I can share with you! :D

Marrvell
05-07-2006, 04:27 AM
<--neglected by Dorah!

MissDorah
05-08-2006, 03:43 AM
*waves at marrv*
I would share with you :flowers2: ... but .. well, all the cool-kids moved to AB.. :cool: You will have to suffer pie from Netura !!

Fenlayen
05-08-2006, 08:08 AM
*waves at marrv*
I would share with you ... but .. well, all the cool-kids moved to AB.. You will have to suffer pie from Netura !!

Yeah Netura failed the coolness test and had to stay on emarr :texla:

:behindcom

MissDorah
05-08-2006, 10:58 AM
Yeah Netura failed the coolness test and had to stay on emarr :texla:

:behindcom

But then we have cheaters like Treman.. who failed the test but snuck in through server merges!! *waves at Treman.. hi <3!*

---------------
Anyways.. rather than just hijacking this thread for my own purposes... I thought I would actually put in my two cents!

Ask me for a buff, and you will get it... almost anytime mana permitting (seconds before we engage, minutes after, in guild lobby... I don't care). I have no problem buffing... I will however btch and moan about the people still asking for seasons :P

Things that bug me:
- people asking for buffs and being OOR or running OOR before it lands
- people asking for SS... call it oak like everyone else!
- cure me please... yea, sure.. but cure what?! this is not always clear if we are engaging a mob with multiple AEs
- being pro-active and buffing newly rezzed people.. only for them to click it off to put up insta clickies (nothing where we are atm dispells! ><).. and then asking me for another oak.
- people asking me for druid buffs when they have a druid in group

Netura
05-08-2006, 11:22 AM
Yeah Netura failed the coolness test and had to stay on emarr :texla:
if by fail the coolness test, you mean can't raid Euro hours, then you are correct!

Keyera
05-11-2006, 08:56 PM
i myself ask for skin (from the sexy druids ;-P..."skin".) /grin Lealani

but i am curious what is wrong with asking for 10's?

i know it used to by 9's (blesing of the 9?)

is the new oak/skin/10's whatever actualy 11's?

excuse my noobness ;-P

Taeyn Kaidyrsi
05-12-2006, 08:43 AM
It looks like Blessing of the Nine is actually 8. It was both the 8th skin and had 8 mana regen per tick.

So then, Blessing of Steeloak is 9. It is the 9th skin and has 9 mana regen per tick.

Unless we don't count the single target only Wood and Natureskin. In which case, Nine is 6 and Oak is 7.

Or, Blessing of the Nine is 1, as it was the first Blessing. and Blessing of Steeloak is 2, as it is the second Blessing :wink:


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</td> <td class="xl28">Protection of Diamond</td> <td class="xl29" style="width: 278pt;" width="370">Increase AC 13, HP 178 (L39) to 200 (L50)</td> <td class="xl28" x:num="" align="right">450</td> <td class="xl28">Group v2</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl23" style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17">49</td> <td class="xl27">
</td> <td class="xl28">Protection of Nature</td> <td class="xl29" style="width: 278pt;" width="370">Increase AC 16, HP 248 (L49) to 250 (L50), HP 2/tick</td> <td class="xl28" x:num="" align="right">700</td> <td class="xl28">Group v2</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl23" style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17">57</td> <td class="xl27">
</td> <td class="xl28">Natureskin</td> <td class="xl29" style="width: 278pt;" width="370">Increase AC 18 (L57) to 19 (L60), HP 391 (L57) to 430 (L70), HP 4/tick</td> <td class="xl28" x:num="" align="right">400</td> <td class="xl28">Single</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl23" style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17">60</td> <td class="xl27">
</td> <td class="xl28">Protection of the Glades</td> <td class="xl29" style="width: 278pt;" width="370">Increase AC 24, HP 470 (L60) to 485 (L65), Mana 6/tick</td> <td class="xl28" x:num="" align="right">1200</td> <td class="xl28">Group v2</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl23" style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17">65</td> <td class="xl27">
</td> <td class="xl28">Blessing of the Nine</td> <td class="xl29" style="width: 278pt;" width="370">Increase AC 32, HP 618, Mana 8/tick</td> <td class="xl28" x:num="" align="right">1700</td> <td class="xl28">Group v2</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td class="xl23" style="height: 12.75pt;" x:num="" align="right" height="17">70</td> <td class="xl27">
</td> <td class="xl28">Blessing of Steeloak</td> <td class="xl29" style="width: 278pt;" width="370">Increase AC 43, HP 772, Mana 9/tick</td> <td class="xl28" x:num="" align="right">2210</td> <td class="xl28">Group v2</td> </tr> </tbody></table>

Aldier
05-13-2006, 06:49 AM
i myself ask for skin (from the sexy druids ;-P..."skin".) /grin Lealani

but i am curious what is wrong with asking for 10's?

i know it used to by 9's (blesing of the 9?)

is the new oak/skin/10's whatever actualy 11's?

excuse my noobness ;-P

The spell had the word "nine" in it. Thus people assume the upgrade to 9 would be 10. Even though Steeloak is only 9 mana per tick.

To compare, have you ever heard people ask for Wunshi by saying "give my 8th"??

Marrvell
05-14-2006, 08:32 PM
I wouldnt wish Netura's pie on my worst enemy, which acually happens ot be Netura, but thats for another thread!

I agree completely with Dorha on the poeple aksing for cures but not saying what. I will WATCH you die and LAUGH at your corpse if you ask me for a cure but dont tell em what it si you ened cured. I refuse to waste my mana healing poeple who didnt tell me what wa skilling them or guessing what they need cured.

Netura
05-14-2006, 09:02 PM
Marrv is jealous~

Nimchip
05-15-2006, 01:20 AM
I wouldnt wish Netura's pie on my worst enemy, which acually happens ot be Netura, but thats for another thread!

I agree completely with Dorha on the poeple aksing for cures but not saying what. I will WATCH you die and LAUGH at your corpse if you ask me for a cure but dont tell em what it si you ened cured. I refuse to waste my mana healing poeple who didnt tell me what wa skilling them or guessing what they need cured.

Sorry but I disagree. You as a healer and curer should go into a fight knowing what the mob or the mobs do so you have your spells ready. Of course there are fights where there's a million different dots (hi OMM) and stuff you have to cure, so I can expect people at least saying what they have. For example "i got silence" and you automatically know that Anguish silence is a simple Pure Blood cure, etc.

MissDorah
05-15-2006, 02:03 AM
Sorry but I disagree. You as a healer and curer should go into a fight knowing what the mob or the mobs do so you have your spells ready. Of course there are fights where there's a million different dots (hi OMM) and stuff you have to cure, so I can expect people at least saying what they have. For example "i got silence" and you automatically know that Anguish silence is a simple Pure Blood cure, etc.

That is what I was referring to in my post :)

I will heal you ... I only believe in Marrvs tough love approach when dealing with rangers or bsts who fight through enrage !!

Erikochan
06-01-2006, 06:12 AM
I will always /tell a buff request to someone else, even if he is in my group. This because I know people pay more attention to /rsay and tells than anything else :)
Guess it also depends on what you're used to on a server or merely in a given guild : Tells = less public spam = good.

Allegretta
06-05-2006, 11:31 AM
Our guild hooks up with Alliance Raiders for pop flags and other big raids, and on these raids it's mandatory that tells for buffs are sent to the appropriate class. If someone asks in the raid channel, "Hey, can I get Bali?" and then three clerics cast on the same person, that's a waste of time and mana.

Aurora_Cazic
06-13-2006, 01:17 PM
I hate when people ask me for buffs when they have a druid already in their group on raids. OMG... PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR GROUP.

(not counting the times the other druid is just trying to be lazy or just rezzed.)

Yeah and not everyone likes it when you try and cyber them. Just because their a female toon on EQ doesn't mean they want to jump into bed with you.

And for someone who likes bragging about their mana pool and how "ubah" they are, you can sure be a real tightass with the mana /whine /whine.

Juniper
06-13-2006, 03:04 PM
Very rarely do I find the need to drop Lions/Steeloak from my spell lineup on raids. Maybe I'm in the minority here but it doesn't bother me when people ask for buffs as long as it's clear what they need.

I've also noticed I consistently get buff tells from the same people on raids.

Dari
06-13-2006, 04:02 PM
Yeah and not everyone likes it when you try and cyber them. Just because their a female toon on EQ doesn't mean they want to jump into bed with you.

And for someone who likes bragging about their mana pool and how "ubah" they are, you can sure be a real tightass with the mana /whine /whine.

Aldier has a new fan!

Aurora_Cazic
06-13-2006, 09:23 PM
Patch Message - 6/13/06 -

"EQIM will no longer work with this change however we do intend to remedy this situation if possible in the future. "

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Maybe he'll finally stop making characters to harass people on Cazic for cyberz over EQIM.

Anyone wanna start a "sad" boy's donation to hire him a hooker out of pity?

Dari
06-14-2006, 01:09 PM
Ok Aldier... so how come you don't try to cyb0rz me? /cries...
/tease

I guess Aurora_Cazic has some deepseated issues that seem to be alleviated by lashing out at Aldier. Odd therapy but oh well :epopcorn:




Side note: is EQIM still available or is it only for those that have already downloaded it? Mine works, but I get random crashes sometimes pretty often.

Glynna1
06-15-2006, 12:58 AM
Aurora or whoever you are what has this got to do with this topic? You have issues take it up with Aldier in tells not here. I've known Aldier for a over a year on Cazic and being a female on a female toon never has he been anything but nice.

These remarks here are uncivil and uncalled for.

Fenier
06-17-2006, 06:32 AM
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