Sorry if this has been asked before.

Can someone tell me the skill cap for sneak and hide on a druid halfling.

Thanks

Sneak is 50, hide might be 75.

afaik 50 / 50 but thats the racial start scor and it will not rise.

at the moment i got invis i didn't use these skills anymore

afaik 50 / 50 but thats the racial start scor and it will not rise.

at the moment i got invis i didn't use these skills anymore

Sneak/hide can be used to get past see-invis mobs, that you can't invis past.

Well, Just sneak technically because if they see invis, they see through hide. Sneak is beneficial if you can get around the back of the mob. I find this useful in RSS camps.

Just another reason why halflings make the best druids.

I use mine to sneak more pie!

isn't it only rogues that can use both sneak and hide at the same time tho?

i know as a cleric i can only use one or the other. when hiding, as soon as you move, you unhide.

hide has been very useful to me over the years. it is effectively an invis that doesn't wear off as long as you don't move. great for /afk

to check if hide was successful, /target keyera if get a message that i can't see anyone by that name then it was a success. if you get targeted, hide failed and you need to try again.

this is why innate see invis should be changed IMO, it totally ruins hide.

eff arselings

Its ok to be jealous nim

Just for clarity's sake, Asslings cannot, and will never be able to sneak and hide and move at the same time, as a racial ability. Sneak/hide is a rogue trademark. This may or may not reduce their chances at pie.

Just for clarity's sake, Asslings cannot, and will never be able to sneak and hide and move at the same time, as a racial ability. Sneak/hide is a rogue trademark.
Incorrect.

Hmm, my ranger has both sneak and hide and can't seem to do both while moving. At least his hide drops.

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Umm, that is 100% correct. If you move at all hide is lost.

heh

thought i said that;-P

gues the question mark at the end of my statment left it open tho. but i wasn't "possitive" other classes mmight have a limited use of both at once. however i knew that clerics could only use one or the other.

Only rogues can both hide + sneak and move at the same time I believe... for everyone else you can activate both and they will both work but as soon as you move hide only will break. Sneak will remain up until you cast, attack, loot etc.. anything that would break invis.

The thing is though you can invis before sneaking and then you have the hide sneak equivalent. I ***think*** for some reason, I guess it has to do with it's status as an ability and lack of cast time, innate camo doesn't actually break sneak so halfling druids can cast it with out breaking sneak/having to get it back up again. It's been a while since I've had to do that and was in a position to check sneak was working though so don't quote me until you confirm for yourself =p


And Bilmani's descripton of how it works is 100% correct.

Innate camo bugs sneak. You do not get a message that sneak was broken, but you will no longer actually be sneaking.

Need to camo first, then successfully sneak.

is there any way to check if sneak was successful or if it is active plz?

One way is to check your run speed. If you're moving much more slowly than usual, you're sneaking. If you're moving at full speed, your sneak attempt failed.

thanks =)
I activate instacamo with a macro linked to forward and back keys .. so i camo every time i move .. which is useful if you want to zone without making huge trains .. or if you forget to inviso all the time like i do =)
Now i have to think how to sneak too without camo breaking sneak every time i press forward again .. hmm.

If you play with sound on try sitting down... if sneak didn't work there'll be a little ruffling. If it worked you'll sit all sneaky like with out a sound.

ahah good one thanks =)

Been trying this today trying to get to a wiped group in nest .. a see inviso was walking back and forth. When coming towards me he conned ready to attack, when going forth he didnt see me.

Tried to sneak, but died (mybe was instacamo bugging though).

Whats the right technique of sneaking past a corridor with a see inviso roaming back and forth? is that possible? Here you wrote you were doing that in RSS, i would like to know more details please.

Sneak only works with a mobs back to you. The only way to get past a see invis roamer using sneak is to have a side passage you can duck in as you sneak behind him. Then when he is pathing back the other way you sneak behind the rest of the way. Also, the best way to check if you are sneaking is to con a mob you know is KOS to you from behind.

Sneak and Hide have been very handy abilities for me... and not for sneaking pie... <giggle>

I've been able to keep hide/sneak locked down as I moved on my halfling druid, the key is to make sure both were succesful - the only problem is it seems only rogues are able to zone with it on, soon as I zone, hide drops =(

I've been able to sneak + hide and get past several undead or otherwise seeing invis mobs when innate camo/invis do not work. It is also useful when doing quest turn ins or multiquests to otherwise KOS mobs.

Keep in mind though of course as a Halfling with the 50/50 cap its a bit cumbersome but it does work. I target a mob go behind a wall or someplace they can't see me, click hide/sneak a few times, once the mob now cons indifferent move, sometimes when you move it does break hide but not sneak, but sometimes you are still hiding and sneaking, you will know if it works because you get an emote + you will move slower + the mob will still con indifferent if successful.

I'm sure everyone probably already knows this, just confirming that it does in fact work and have used hide/sneak many times for quests and see invis mobs. Handy in a pinch.

thanks a lot .. didnt know this! eager to try .. What advantage has hide over instacamo?

What advantage has hide over instacamo?

It is permanent until you break it. It is only useful if you plan on a very extended afk though.