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Kitano
05-31-2007, 08:33 PM
Against straight Melee I pwn,
Against Mana classes i have enough tricks and AA stuffz and procs to hold out ...

however against the bard, who thru all my years of playing an Sk and Druid have given me a thorough beat down ..

what do you do ?

2 minutes into the fight im buffless and manaless, and with the melody they play, i stay that way ...
Am i supposed to blow everything i got and hopes hes dead in 2 minutes ?

Omgz help ...

Tenielle
06-01-2007, 10:19 AM
Against straight Melee I pwn,
Against Mana classes i have enough tricks and AA stuffz and procs to hold out ...

You're a druid?

I stopped playing PVP when I started raiding because there was no point anymore, everything I casted got resisted.

Assuming he's mezzing you with his Luclin song, I'd recommend dotting yourself with flame lick.

There's not a lot you can do in EQ to prevent being debuffed, since dispells are unresistable. Recommend keeping insta-click buffs in your top slots.

It's been so long since I even bothered with PVP...

Amped
06-01-2007, 05:31 PM
Some classes are not meant to PVP. Druids are one of them.

My SK remains undefeated in almost 3 years. MY druid, otoh, has never won one and they are similarly geared. Druid was my main for 2 years and I am quite good at root rot / quad kiting / normal kiting, etc. But you can't win if you can't get your nukes and dots to land, which is where druids are today against most duel challengers.

Amped
06-01-2007, 05:32 PM
Some classes are not meant to PVP. Druids are one of them.

My SK remains undefeated in almost 3 years (save a 30 minute duel with a shammy who shall remain nameless). MY druid, otoh, has never one and they are similarly geared. Druid was my main for 2 years and I am quite good at rot root / quad kiting / normal kiting, etc. But you can't win if you cna't get your nukes and dots ot land, which is where druids are today against most duel challengers.

Kitano
06-02-2007, 11:30 AM
well with reptile and fernspur i can hold my own against anyone so long as i have mana ... but with Bards Chaining Mana Tap + debuff ..... you are buffless for the whole fight, and your mana goes down to 0 .. and stays there ..

Amped
06-02-2007, 11:50 AM
With those two buffs you would be relying on people hittng you. As a dueling SK, I can just shadowstep around, lifetap you and HT you without ever swinging a weapon. Now, if druid spells land... treat a PC just like a mob. Snare, root, dot, dot, dot, nuke, nuke, nuke. But like I said, the dots and nukes don't land on many PCs these days. And even if they land they don't do much damage.

Kitano
06-04-2007, 03:16 AM
i dont even bother memming snare and root .. NBW is the closest to a Finishing spell as we get .. using Immo / hor to debuff, and as many magic dots as i can land ...

and until i find a sk with a mana pool as big as mine .. I fear not lifetaps ...

Amped
06-04-2007, 11:38 AM
Heh. My SK has a 12 K mana pool. I don't see a problem beating a druid, no offense intended. TBH, the only class that has ever given me trouble consistently is Paladins. And once they use LOH, it's all over for them too. BTW, by trouble, I don't mean i can't or don't beat them. I just mean it takes some time to do so.

Kitano
06-05-2007, 04:56 AM
Hey thread Hijacker .. back to beating a bard ... and the day a SK beats me i retire ...

Veresz
06-08-2007, 09:34 AM
Transfer to Zek...arena /duel pvp just isn´t the same (apologies if you are actually referring to a toon you may have on Zek).

An SK who shadowsteps around and just lifetaps would be death by laughter only...SK´s are only to be feared by druids these days when it involves double DT fun.....

As for bards, they have always been a right royal pain. Main hope is to ruin his game plan by getting dots/snare etc on him while you have the mana left. get him focussed on defending/pelling himself rather than attacking you. That said, they just run off at that stage anyway, so its a pointless fight.

Not memming snare is just ridiculous. It´s about our best pvp weapon. Only one worth having for pvp (at least with resist system on Zek) is the 69 DoN Chromatic snare. NBW is a nice new pvp addition.

My usual pvp lineup is pure life, serpent vines, reptile skin, HoR, Immo line, magic dot, fernspur, dispell, NBW.......obviously slight variations depending on class you fight.

Kamion
06-11-2007, 08:38 AM
Druids make out better in pvp than any other caster class.

Kitano
06-12-2007, 04:36 AM
thanks for the info ver ... just seems like when i need a kill against melee im gonna get it with AA pet/nbw/magic dots/ or the ds line of Wrath/viridcoat/viridflora/fernspur and in the time it takes me to land a snare they have regenned / healed with their various tricks ...
never knew the DoN snare was the best pvp snare we had, ill have to start memming it~

Xarra
01-10-2008, 02:26 PM
Click your epic 1.0 on yourself. That stops the charm for a good 3 minutes... that is your time frame for killing the bard. You gotta cast it b4 you enter the PvP arena or youll resist it yourself. Start off with NBW, and have Fernspur at the ready. Bards are limited in self healing abilities, they will run around in circles singing their hot to get it back and clicking potions. Load your 2-3 best MR dots, they land far better than any other spells we get. NBW works fantastic even w/o HoR or Immo. I dont even mem those 2. I keep my casted DS's memmed, self buff, and single target DS. They wont wanna meele you, but they really have no other option to kill you. I constantly duel people with max resists and my MR dots land 3/4 of the times i cast them and NBW does partial nuke dmg atleast that often too, once its nuke lands the dot will tear them up.

I hate dispellers but rather than useing your time to stop/fix their actions, just make them worry about what your doing to them. Tear them apart, they take your buffs off, you take their hps off.

Oh but that was all oldschool style, now you cant mez in PvP anymore even with ancients so ive herd. Some bard and chanter were complaining about it to me. But ive been mezzed by a 'rogue trap' that i wasnt ina duel with or in the arena with.

I hope ya kill um bro. Toss me a tell and post a screenie of the bard corpse heh. And id love the chance to duel that SK heh, i need another screenie for my folder. PS any druid that retorts to kiting in an arena or useing snare makes Karana cry. Toe to toe dueling zerkers is the only way they are any fun hehe.