View Full Forums : Cripple Parse, part 1


Khauruk
08-09-2007, 02:19 AM
Crossposted at TSW, Samanna, Beastlords.org. Somebody pls repost on Therunes, as their registration is buggy for me.

Fenier at least should be interested :)

Spell tested: Shaman lvl66 Crippling Spasm (-100 agi/dex/str)

Mob: A Lightning Diodite Staticfist (MPG) (same mob both parses)

Parse 1: No cripple
Length - 13.3 minutes
32 flurries (2.406 flurries/minute)

Parse 2: Crippled
Length - 14.65 minutes
28 flurries (1.911 flurries/minute)

Difference: ~26%.

Short parses, aye (How low is the confidence level, pls) I could only find an interested shammy w/ a little bit of time. And my druid could only keep me up for 13.3 for the uncrippled parse. But, I couldn't find this info anywhere else.

Much thanks to Sabisback of Alliance Raiders on Luclin for volunteering his time to help.

Fenier
08-09-2007, 02:18 PM
I'd be interested in seeing hit graphs for both parses.

Khauruk
08-09-2007, 03:29 PM
Not valuable in this case, as atk debuffs were inconsistent :(. Also, it's a very short sample size for getting a reliable hit distribution.

Fenier
08-09-2007, 03:31 PM
Ignore the attack Debuffs.

You're a Beastlord. Get a sizable sample (1-2k) hits keeping your spell incap on it the entire time. This will at least provide a baseline on how it should act. From there you can move on to Shaman / Chanter verisons to see how it scales.

Hit graphs are important, you're not just looking at the flurry ratio.

-Fenier

Khauruk
08-09-2007, 04:44 PM
That'll take a good bit, as I'll need to succour back to zone in and keep running back...druid is only 8k mana/few AAs. The attack debuffs also have a huge impact in ease of healing Khauruk...I was a believer after the first mob. Now if only we could get a -100 chromatic -300ATK 2.25sec cast atk debuff for SoF! I think it would be appropriate, frankly.

It's something that I do want to work on more, but first I want to get a feel for what the -dex portion of the higher cripples does.


Perhaps I should try in WoS...I still get hit for max reasonably often, and druid should be able to keep me healed about indefinitely there.

Fenier
08-09-2007, 05:14 PM
Cripple should act the same regardless of mob level / area.

I recommand parsing on a GoD Noc. They rampage and hit for <300, you can run a test on them nearly forever, even without the druid.

-Fenier

Palarran
08-09-2007, 06:17 PM
PoJ basement mobs also rampage or flurry and hit for less than 300, if you want another option.

I don't think you can assume cripple works the same on all mobs though. I remember cripple used to significantly (visibly) reduce rampage/flurry on some old raid targets but not on others.