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Ciggwin
12-17-2002, 10:29 AM
What's YOUR best technique?

Are warders fearable? I think so, but not sure.

Are warders charmable? Again, not sure.

Post YOUR tactics here!

Basically my tactics are to:
1.) root pet/snare pet
2.) DoT BST/debuff
3.) snare BST
4.) nuke when low

~Cigg

Weathered Woods
12-21-2002, 04:12 PM
you usually won't have fear up. i'm not sure if its usable against warders, i imagine it is (not sure if they get fearless buff at some lvl). charming pets was nerfed a while back. you have to try to snare the pet. if you can land a snare, you win. if the BL lands a blind on you, well, that's not good, hehe. basically know where the zone is, and kite the warder there, constantly snaring, so you can zone if needbe. if you ever have blind up, that's like a fear too.
best thing is to train the pet if its fighting something. or make mobs aggro on it with faction, then clear aggro with zone.

Ciggwin
12-22-2002, 07:23 AM
You don't play on a PvP server do you....


~Cigg

Weathered Woods
12-23-2002, 12:37 AM
59 druid with 24 AAs on SZ... the good team. why the hell do you think i don't play on a pvp server? BLs are fukking simple. you either get a snare off or run (like fighting a mage). you come here, begging for a tip on how to kill a BL cause you're blue @#%$ is too dumb to find out itself, and flame me for being a bluebie. those lvl 60 warders bash so friggen much, once its aggro'd you'll never get a snare off just standing there (no fear either~) - hence the kiting towards a zone. if a BL zones, he loses 90% of his offence. BLs don't have snare, so they try to blind (yes, resist change made it possible), which leaves you vulnerable if it lands. any other spell isn't worth casting from the BLs side, except an occasional nuke that will be resisted a lot.

but i think the reason you posted here, was because you started a toon on a pvp server 4 days ago and felt superior to all the other players on a blue server, and thought it would be cool to flame ANYONE that posts here cause no one's smarter than your uber self. am i right.

Ciggwin
12-23-2002, 05:16 PM
<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>but i think the reason you posted here, was because you started a toon on a pvp server 4 days ago and felt superior to all the other players on a blue server, and thought it would be cool to flame ANYONE that posts here cause no one's smarter than your uber self. am i right.[/quote]

No, actually I play on TZ, and I am in and have been in the oldest guild on the server. 3 years but thx info~

But on a serious note, who uses blind in PvP? That's what you see when bluebies go to BotB with PvP servers ;)

~Cigg

Weathered Woods
12-24-2002, 03:55 PM
BLs don't have any other worthwhile spells to cast (no snare, root, only weak offense), so they usually spam blind or chase(depending on opponent). since resist change, it seems every spell has a small chance of landing, even with 200mr etc. its like when you try to snare someone. you try a couple times knowing that if you land one, you'll have a significant advantage over your opponent. most of the time it will be resisted. but you can't see the other person's resists, so it might just be worth a shot.

you can try dispelling the pet. might get its sow or haste buff. but a smart BL will burry the most important buffs, and after the first dispell, the pet will be all over you, bashing like crazy.

also, snare and fear have the same chance of landing. landing a lucky snare is far better than landing a lucky fear.

Spyder001
12-30-2002, 10:28 AM
Hadnt thought of fearing the pet, might try that next when BL in zone, just to see if it works (gotta get my fear spell up).

One on One:
If fear works, you could use that, as it casts fast (1.75 sec same as ensnare). Not as good as ensnare because its going to wear off before you can kill the BL solo, so it will be back on you soon.

Ensnare is best one to try (much better than fear as it lasts so long), it casts fast. (1.75 again)

Group:
Annul magic
takes a little longer to cast, so I wouldnt try that one unless it was a situation where there are multiple people fighting, and the pet is on someone else. And in THAT situation, you definitely need to just dispell the crap out of the pet first, then its almost worthless as a pet after you dispell all the buffs on it, as the buffs are what make the pet's higher level, etc. But if the pet is on YOU as a druid, even in a group, go back to the above and try ensnare or fear (if fear works) and if you dont get it within a couple cast trys, then just kite it around or away to a zone, they hit hard and fast.

I have a LITTLE problem with saying use snare first (but not much), because snare is resisted quite a bit at high levels on the pets. Where the Annul magic is NEVER resisted, you always get some buffs off on that, so, as a tactic, choose your poison, its going to take a few casts to deal with the pet with annul magic, but no resists for annul, and with ensnare, you also are going to take a few casts to get one to stick (maybe 5-6 tries or more). Where annul takes something down every time but takes more than twice as long to get the spell off.

mulladar
02-07-2003, 02:16 AM
heheh interesting topic... It all comes down to being able to either snare or preferably root the pet..If that happens well you'll do some ownage..

Mull