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Jocund
07-28-2003, 04:42 AM
My CHA is 85 in my current gear. I do a lot of charming in PoS - will spending AA points to get my innate CHA up help? What is a good CHA number to get to for charming purposes? I don't want to give up other stats on my gear to increase CHA.

TeriMoon
07-28-2003, 06:24 AM
You should buy innate charisma to help you get a better price at merchants.

My anecdotal experience is that the thing that improves charming the most is debuffing MR of the charmed mob. Other than that, maybe levels helps, maybe not. I never noticed charisma having much affect although it won't hurt either.

Palarran
07-28-2003, 07:59 AM
100 seems to be one of several "important" points in a stat. Around 100 cha (varies slightly) you'll get the best prices from indifferent vendors; at 100 stamina fatigue affects nothing except your ability to jump; I believe there's a relatively large jump in AC at 100 agility. I'd get your charisma to at least 100 if you can.

You may want to look at grandmastering a tradeskill, particularly brewing if you want to master something quickly. The grandmaster trophy things have 50 charisma on them (and 10 wis too). That's a nice boost for a single slot, and it can fit into any of primary, secondary or ranged slots. Plus you get a "free" permanent 100% weight reduction bag (10 giant slots, wt 1.2) and the ability to summon additional no rent ones. The trophies do cost a few thousand per attempt though.

Levels and target MR definitely make a large difference, but charisma does appear to make enough of a difference to be worth raising a bit.

Role Meggido
07-28-2003, 11:57 AM
I vaguely remember some extended studies a while back that showed charisma to be virtually meaningless to charms.

Tham Treehugger
07-28-2003, 05:39 PM
Been charming for over 80 aa's now with sub 100 char (was at like 76 until a few weeks ago), and I can't complain about charm duration at all.
If cha acctually helped charms I'd be very surprised, because that'd mean even longer durations and less charm breaks than I already have.

Apocalypse Criterion
07-30-2003, 03:48 AM
My experience is CHA has absolutely no effect on druid charming, it only has an affect on merchant prices and the chance that a mob will aggro you on a harmony resist.

AzariahTunare
07-30-2003, 04:19 AM
I got my GM trophy about a week ago (50 charisma). So far, I've noticed no difference in charming at all while wearing it.
Breaks just as often.

Azariah
65 druid

Unclelude
07-31-2003, 11:27 AM
The new help 'tips' on the character creation screen say something about charming and cha. I don't have the exact text, but the idea is higher cha = less resist.

Says nothing about duration.

FallenaDown
08-04-2003, 07:01 PM
As a 56 Druid, I know from my exp in PoN, that cha makes a difference enough to work on it. If your cha is 85 and you have enough gear to raise it up to about 125.. you may not notice. However, with my cha gear and a chanter buff my it is 218, and I can tell compared to a higher level druid with 125 cha. Call it chance or good luck, but certainly says something to me.

Fallena Down
Officer of New Royal Assassins