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Tiluvar
04-13-2003, 12:07 PM
I'm pretty sure I already know the answer.. But does 5% med mod on an item actually do anything?

I'm 65 and have max med (obviously) which is 252, as far as I know 252 is the hard cap and no matter how much you try to mod it it can't go passed that. Even if it could I doubt having a med skill of 264 or whatever from the 5% bonus would really do anything.

Anyone know for sure?

L1ndara
04-13-2003, 01:14 PM
Does nothing. Except for some of the meleer mods, most noteably backstab, the +skill items do little or nothing unless you aren't at the cap.

Paldor
04-13-2003, 06:57 PM
Hard cap on all skills is 255.

I believe the mediate skill is broken down to:

Skill / 10 +1 = Mana per tick.

So.. skill 10 = 2 mana per tick.
skill 100 = 11 mana per tick.

Max meditate mana regeneration is 255 / 10 + 1 = 26 mana per tick.

L1ndara
04-14-2003, 01:11 AM
Meditate gives 19/tick at the cap for caster/priests, I never figured out what hybrids get at the cap but it's probably 19 as well. Everyone with a manapool gets a basic 1/tick, and level 65s get an additional 2/tick regardless of if you're meditating or not.

So a self-buffed FT15 MC3 druid at level 65 with all their spells, a boon of recovery and koadic's item on a horse and not moving/attacking wil get...
19 - meditation
15 - FT
8 - Pot9
5 - Koadic's
4 - MotF
3 - MC3
3 - Boon of Recovery
2 - level 65 bonus
1 - base

= 60

... Which is as good as it gets. Wind of Marr is another 22 and Voice of Quellious another 18 on to that, Spiritual Dominion will overwrite Boon giving an additional 6 for 106 mana/tick before counting rods, SK, necro and BST short duration group mana and additional in-group bard mana.

Geddine
04-15-2003, 12:44 AM
Actually the max any skill can be is 253. (2 bits are reserved).

So meditate maxxing at 252, so you'd only get an increase of 1 to your meditate. When your at your class max +%skill items are only good for say skill which max at 235 or lower.

Lalian
04-15-2003, 05:44 AM
It helps if you are not close to the cap. If your meditate skill is maxxed, it is almost totally useless.

Prax
04-16-2003, 06:29 PM
L1ndara,

I'm not trying to question you, but I've seen that 2 extra mana/tick at 65 tossed around a lot, and I've never really seen conclusive evidence to back it up. Could you please let me know where you have seen that verified so that I can share it with my friends. Since you posted on this thread earlier today, I've spent hours trying to find further evidence of it and I've come up empty.

I appreciate your help.

L1ndara
04-17-2003, 03:35 AM
Simple test is to strip off all your manaregen, MGB to clear your pool to 0 and figure out how long it takes before you can cast... say... Regrowth of the Grove. With MC3 it should take 10 minutes standing if you get +2/tick from being 60, if you don't get the +2/tick it'll take 15.

Alternatly you can use a proxy that gives you your manapool size in a number instead of a percentage and spend 6 seconds to see how much you regenned that tick.