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Garry Denke
10-05-2003, 06:21 PM
Secret Ancient Monument Markers of Artifacts

http://www.orionbeadling.net/CSCARPelev.jpg

Current Locations of the First Stones brought to Stonehenge (~400 tons)

a) 1/4 Counterscarp still in place is foreign Carboniferous Waulsortian facies High Tor Limestone (Birnbeck Limestone) Formation rock, not local Cretaceous Seaford Chalk Formation rock.

b) 3/4 Counterscarp remnants are foreign Carboniferous Waulsortian facies High Tor Limestone (Birnbeck Limestone) Formation rock, not local Cretaceous Seaford Chalk Formation rock. Note: 3/4 Counterscarp rebuilt with local earth soil after 3/4 Counterscarp limestone was removed and piled at Artifact Burial mound located 100 meters East-Southeast of Heel Stone.

c) E-SE Stonehenge Artifact Burial mound is foreign Carboniferous Waulsortian facies High Tor Limestone (Birnbeck Limestone) Formation rock, not local Cretaceous Seaford Chalk Formation rock. Source: 3/4 of the original complete circle of Counterscarp limestone First hedge of Stonehenge.

d) 56 Aubrey Hole remnants are foreign Carboniferous Waulsortian facies High Tor Limestone (Birnbeck Limestone) Formation rock, not local Cretaceous Seaford Chalk Formation rock.

e) Heel Stone ditch bottom-half is foreign Carboniferous Waulsortian facies High Tor Limestone (Birnbeck Limestone) Formation rock, not local Cretaceous Seaford Chalk Formation rock, and not silted in fill. Source: Counterscarp causeway or Artifact Burial mound.

Discoverer:

German dentist, historian, and antiquarian Dr. Garry W. Denke (b. April 19, 1622, Baden, Schwarzwald, Germany - d. February 19, 1699, Caddo confederacies, Texas), inventor of core sampling and core barrel (1656), recorder of Stonehenge mother's baby's teeth's ten (10) girths.

Photograph:

1/4 of Counterscarp limestone still in place, 3/4 of Counterscarp limestone mounded 100m E-SE of Heel Stone - http://www.orionbeadling.net/CSCARPelev.jpg

Quote:

"Promotes the discovery, understanding, and enjoyment of the natural world."
- The Natural History Museum - http://www.nhm.ac.uk

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Q & A

"Can you explain how the counterscarp limestone looks different from the chalk?"

Stonehenge counterscarp limestone hedge was first determined to be different from the basement outcrop in 1656 by Dr. Denke's core magnifying glass. Being well versed in biology of the times as a dentist (palaeontology is a branch of biology), and having been to Waulsort and Wales in previous travels, he first noticed and recorded that the elder white stone creatures (fossils) were absent in the younger white chalk basement rock, but the same creatures present in Waulsort and Wales outcrops. Waulsort is a village south of Namur in Belgium and Wales (South Coast) is west-northwest of Stonehenge, where according to Dr. Denke in 1656, these same elder white stone creatures crop out. In current times the first twenty-four elders (as they have become to be commonly referred to) described in German by Dr. Denke in 1656, are now known and classified as being:

01) Aclisina
02) Aviculopecten
03) Bellerophon
04) Caninia cornucopiae
05) Chondrites
06) Cleiothyridina roissyi
07) Composita
08) Conocardium
09) Delepinea (Daviesiella) destinezi
10) Euphemites
11) Girvanella
12) Hapsiphyllum (Zaphrentis) konincki
13) Linoproductus
14) Megachonetes papilionaceous
15) Michelina grandis
16) Mourlonia
17) Murchisonia
18) Palaeosmilia
19) Plicochonetes
20) Rhipidomella michelini
21) Schellwienella cf. S. crenistria
22) Straparollus
23) Syringopora
24) Zoophycos

Palaeontology, geochemistry, and mineralogy of Carboniferous age limestone is different than that of Cretaceous age chalk, and has been verified by evolution and extinction of species. Many of the elder white stone fossils died out long before the Cretaceous, and likewise, many of the younger white chalk fossils did not evolve until the Jurassic, or at the earliest, Triassic. Differentiating fossiliferous white limestone from fossiliferous white chalk was a simple task for ancient fossil collectors. Some of the key fossils are huge before they are fragmented and moved.

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"Was the counterscarp limestone used in other henges in the area?"

I do not know, but that is an excellent question.

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"Or did it make an appearance in other megalithic structures in that time and place?"

Dr. Denke, before sailing to Jamestown in present-day Virginia, gathered and recorded the same lithology and fossils of these Waulsort and Wales type white stones from the Bratton Camp (Westbury) original white horse eye, but other than that, I do not know. Note that the original Bratton Camp white horse artifacts were excavated by Dr. Denke, brought to Jamestown, wound up in New York, then were returned to the G. Gee remodeled Westbury white horse eye by M. Moroni.

http://www.contours.co.uk/self-guided/images/westbury-white-horse.jpg
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"I would tend to believe that this counterscarp limestone had a special significance and therefore was brought in from far away"

The significance is, according to Dr. Denke's field notes, they were (and still are) monument markers, used to preserve the specific locations of artifacts, such as those plumb with Heel Stone wings, Stonehenge mound, and at Westbury white horse. He says in German translated to English by the Erodelphian Literary Society of Sigma Chi Fraternity (North Texas Branch), "ring is broken, no artifacts here", meaning: no artifacts in the 1/4 remaining counterscarp limestone hedge.

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Kind regards,

Garry W. Denke
Geologist/Geophysicist

princess0fdiabl0
10-05-2003, 06:32 PM
uhmm..okay??

AmonraSet
10-05-2003, 08:59 PM
I find myself wondering if this post was intended for a very different audience of druids.

Panamah
10-05-2003, 10:04 PM
Edit: Mean picture deleted

We do sort of have a stonehenge-ish drawing up as a logo here.

Sobe Silvertree
10-05-2003, 10:30 PM
Leave Mr. Garry Denke alone; its in OT so least he's following the rules -

- If he doesn't understand tho.. this Site is for a community of "Game playing Druids".. for a Game called Everquest - a MMORPH - IE: Video Game that we all play (well cept those retired from the game) - its a community of Gamerz that Play Games..

If your interested, visit http://www.everquest.com .. buy it at most Known Stores, such as Walmart - Best Buy etc.. if your in the US.. if not most large computer/tech type stores carry the game(s).

- who knows tho.. some that play the game may actual find this post interesting.. so no harm - I hope (I didn't read it myself) - Panamah usual dead on for this type stuff /shrugs

- Be well Heirophant

Seriena
10-05-2003, 11:27 PM
He actually posted it in General EQ but I didn't see any harm in it so I moved it here instead. Probably just doesn't understand what this board is about like you said.

Sobe Silvertree
10-05-2003, 11:37 PM
ah - yea I saw one in trashbin too -

Garry Denke
10-05-2003, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by Seriena
He actually posted it in General EQ but I didn't see any harm in it so I moved it here instead. Probably just doesn't understand what this board is about like you said.

Thank you. I was not sure where to post it. Thank you again. Nice site. Game on!

Kind regards,

Garry W. Denke
Geologist/Geophysicist

Quelm
10-06-2003, 12:30 AM
"German dentist, historian, and antiquarian Dr. Garry W. Denke (b. April 19, 1622,"

"Garry W. Denke"

Wow! Keep up the good work :)

Garry Denke
10-06-2003, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by Quelm
"German dentist, historian, and antiquarian Dr. Garry W. Denke (b. April 19, 1622," "Garry W. Denke" Wow! Keep up the good work :)

Actually my direct ancestor's name was not spelled exactly the same as my own (even though I wish it was), no, the German dentist's name who discovered this Stonehenge elder white stone (described above) in 1656 was spelled Doctor Garry "Whilhelm" Denke (1622-1699). I was born in 1955, and as far as I know, am still alive. Thank you for your reply.

Kind regards,

Garry "William" Denke
Geologist/Geophysicist

Quelm
10-06-2003, 02:41 AM
Just kidding, hopefully you took it as such. Thanks for the clarification and thanks for stopping by.

Garry Denke
10-06-2003, 03:07 AM
Originally posted by Quelm
Just kidding, hopefully you took it as such. Thanks for the clarification and thanks for stopping by.

Thank you. Nice site. Take care.

Kind regards,

Garry W. Denke
Geologist/Geophysicist

Aegir
10-06-2003, 09:37 AM
Interesting, messed a bit with Google and it appears Mr. Denke has been spamming a few boards copy'n'pasting a few different posts all regarding to the Stonenhenge (sp?) theory developed by his ancestor.

Ladred
10-06-2003, 10:00 AM
Was actually an interesting read, could you provide any links to a broader source of information than you posted here Mr. Denke?

What's wrong with posting this information to several sites, if he chooses to attempt to reach the vast audiences of the internet then he should be able to spam this where ever he's let.

Keep up the interesting work, sir.

Chenier
10-06-2003, 01:08 PM
I like the horsey on the hillside...

Everytime I think of stonehenge, I think of British pubs...which makes me sad because they are oh so far away from me =(

(Nice cool, overcast day here in SoCal - perfect for a pint down at the pub with a game of darts /sigh)

Okay, now I'm depressed. Tils, go have a pint for me today please?

Stormhaven
10-06-2003, 02:33 PM
Chenier translation: Everytime I think of Stonehenge, I wish I were smashed. In fact, I wish I were smashed now.

Garry Denke
10-06-2003, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by Ladred
Was actually an interesting read, could you provide any links to a broader source of information than you posted here Mr. Denke?

What's wrong with posting this information to several sites, if he chooses to attempt to reach the vast audiences of the internet then he should be able to spam this where ever he's let.

Keep up the interesting work, sir.
Thank you Ladred. Hope this helps:

CHRONOLOGY OF STONEHENGE CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS

The oldest limestone sedimentary rocks at Stonehenge are the Lower Carboniferous Period (early Mississippian Period), Arundian Age, calcium carbonates. The Carboniferous Period limestone sedimentary rocks comprise the first (1st) foreign construction material used by the Stonehenge builders. This material is approximately 342 million years old. These rocks are locally called the Birnbeck Limestone Formation (Stonehenge Whitestones).

The outcrop sedimentary rocks at Stonehenge are the Late Cretaceous Period, Santonian Age, calcium carbonates. The Cretaceous Period outcrop sedimentary rocks comprise the first (1st) local construction material used by the Stonehenge builders. This material is approximately 84 million years old. These rocks are locally called the Seaford Chalk Formation (Stonehenge White Chalk).

The volcanic rocks (oldest geologically) at Stonehenge are the Ordovician Period intrusive igneous diabases (dolerites), and extrusive igneous felsites (rhyolites) and tuffs (basic). The Ordovician Period igneous rocks comprise the second (2nd) foreign construction material used by the Stonehenge builders. This material is approximately 470 million years old. These rocks are locally called the Ordovician Volcanics (Stonehenge Bluestones).

The oldest sandstone sedimentary rocks at Stonehenge are the Silurian - Devonian Period micaceous sandstones. The Silurian - Devonian Period sedimentary sandstone rocks comprise the third (3rd) foreign construction material used by the Stonehenge builders. This material is approximately 417 million years old. These rocks are locally called the Old Red Sandstone Formation (Stonehenge Coshestons).

The youngest sandstone sedimentary rocks at Stonehenge are the Oligocene - Miocene Period silicates. The Oligocene - Miocene Period sandstone sedimentary rocks comprise the fourth (4th) foreign construction material used by the Stonehenge builders. This material is approximately 24 million years old. These rocks are locally called the Reading Formation (Stonehenge Sarsens).

http://origins.swau.edu/gifs/geologic.jpg

http://www.bgs.ac.uk/education/britstrat/timecharts/phaner.html

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Hard Copy Publication List:

Chrono-Bibliography of the Stonehenge Whitestones (Early Carboniferous, Arundian Age, Birnbeck Limestone Formation) from 1656 Discovery through 1986:

1) Denke, G.W. 1975. Invertibrate Paleontology of the High Tor Limestone (Lower Carboniferous) and the Upper Senonian Chalk (Late Cretaceous) of Stonehenge. (Arizona State University) GDG, 75: 1-7.

2) Denke, G.W. 1977. Possible Source Areas of the High Tor Limestone (Early Mississippian) Fill of the Aubrey Holes and Heel Stone Ditch in Europe. (Arizona State University) GDG, 77: 1-24.

3) Beus, S.S. 1984. Fossil Associations in the High Tor Limestone (Lower Carboniferous) of South Wales. (Northern Arizona University) Journal of Paleontology, 58: 3; 651-667.

4) Denke, G.W. 1984. Mid-Dinantian (Waulsortian Facies) High Tor Limestone: The First Stones Transported to Stonehenge from the South Wales Coast. (Arizona State University) GDG, 84: 1-4.

5) Denke, G. 1984. Magnetic and Electromagnetic Surveys at Heelstone, Stonehenge, United Kingdom. (Indiana University of Pennsylvania) GDG, 84: 5-42

6) Lees, A. and Miller, J. 1985. Facies variatian in Waulsortian buildups, Part 2; Mid-Dinantian buildups from Europe and North America. (Revised) Geological Journal, 20: 159-180.

7) Geologist, Denke, G. 1986. The Paleontology of Stonehenge, England. (Arizona State University) GDG, 86: 1-3. State of Texas, County of Stonewall, Deed Records, Volume 393, Page 851-853

Kind regards,

Garry W. Denke
Geologist/Geophysicist

Chenier
10-06-2003, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by Stormhaven
Chenier translation: Everytime I think of Stonehenge, I wish I were smashed. In fact, I wish I were smashed now.

*tthhhppppppttthhhhh*

Tils
10-06-2003, 04:34 PM
Its kinda ontopic in a weird kinda way :)


Garry you might be interested in

http://www.druidsgrove.org/

though :)



Tils

Northerner
10-08-2003, 07:11 AM
It's probably just as well that the .org didn't have a Bard's messageboard or this could turn into something funny :)

Aidon
10-10-2003, 03:58 AM
Well, that pretty much shut down any thoughts I ever may have entertained about becoming a geologist.

Good lord.

I think I'll stick to puters and law.