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Wrek Increw
07-23-2004, 11:21 AM
I have only gotten involved in PvP very few times. My druid is not even elemental flagged and has no good equipment to speak of. Just the same, I was bored last night and roamed over to the arena in the bazaar. There were about 8-10 people there, all in the tunnels except for this wizard that was sitting in the middle of the arena floor.

I watched him for a bit killing everyone that came at him and then /ooc'ing his gear and trash talking. I don't know much about wizard gear, but his gloves alone had +200 hp/mana and more than one focus effect. I also noticed that after each fight, he came to the tunnel and his cleric would rebuff him and top off his hp. So, I decided to give him a go.

He was sitting in the middle again and I ran up to him and just stood there for a second to see what he would do. So he says, "I seriously hope you are f*king kidding me." I guess he thought I was beneath his notice. So he starts casting. I think overall he nuked me 7-8 times and all but one was a crit hit. But I am happy to say that druid heals > wizard nukes.

My spell lineup was Winter's Frost, Snare, Dispel, Swarming Death, Drifting Death, NI, Summer's Flame. I opened up with several dispels with a couple of NI's to offset his DDs. When I was sure he was fully debuffed, I threw on my two DoT's. I nuked him three times, twice with WF and once with SF. They hit for pitiful damage, but he didn't fully resist anything.

At this time I was 60m and full health. He was around 35% health. So I refreshed my 2 DoT's and waited on him to get really low on health. That didn't take too long. He was steady nuking me and sending those sword pets at me. It really didn't take that much healing to keep full health. He got to 1% when my DoTs wore off. I started casting WF and he turned and ran into the tunnel. Too bad I couldn't land a snare or root. Suffice to say, I don't think he will be taking druids as lightly anymore. His PvP plan was just to root, nuke nuke nuke. If he had loaded up a dispel, things might have gone differently. As it was, with pot9 it allowed me to take 2 full damage nukes and still be able to heal up before he could land another. I finished full health and about 50m.

Fun times.

Logilitie
07-23-2004, 12:05 PM
you beat a wiz with what i saw on your magelo?
and the wiz had an item with +200 ish hp/mana? hmm
your resit are real low.. i'm amazed his nukes didn't kill you right off

wiz must have sucked..

Kineada
07-23-2004, 12:31 PM
Not really. Best way to kill a wizzy is with swarm DoTs while healing any damage the wizzy does. Druid nukes won't land against end-game resists. Remember that NI casts as fast as any wizzy lure or draught within *waving his hands* the first order. Don't really need to dispell the wizard either. Swarms ignore runes and attack real hitpoints.

The trick is to know if manaburn is up. If it is, use chloroblast to keep above 75% hitpoints. It should be easy since DoTs do damage without much maintainance (can heal while rotting).

Wrek Increw
07-23-2004, 01:40 PM
you beat a wiz with what i saw on your magelo?
and the wiz had an item with +200 ish hp/mana? hmm
your resit are real low.. i'm amazed his nukes didn't kill you right off

wiz must have sucked..

You forget that nukes do not land for full damage in PvP. The most he nuked me for was around 1700. Not to mention that I fully debuffed him and then threw DoTs on him. No way a wizard can nuke faster than I can heal. Not to mention I buffed my resists and he never dispeled me a single time. The fight only lasted a couple of minutes. I explained his PvP strategy in my previous post. Maybe he did suck as you say. Then again, maybe I just beat a cocky wizard. I may not have the best gear by far, but I have been a druid for 4 years. Druid AAs notwithstanding, it was a very easy fight.

Aluaeia
07-23-2004, 03:27 PM
If he didn't dispel you at all, he was a dumbass.

Regnon
07-23-2004, 05:06 PM
if he was doing that, and showing off his equipment.

I got 2 words for you

E BAY. Nobody that knows what the hell they were doing , plays a wizard like that.

Marklar Thistleblade
07-24-2004, 02:28 AM
As with any robe caster ...dispell and try to debuff fire ...try to land VoT on him ..along with swarm lines while keepin your hp up ...swarm eats em up pretty fast ..and VoT cant be dispelled as casters have no way of dealin with curses (and no clickies either as far as i know)

Vowelumos
07-27-2004, 11:30 AM
if he was doing that, and showing off his equipment.

I got 2 words for you

E BAY. Nobody that knows what the hell they were doing , plays a wizard like that.

It is a possibility but I have encountered plenty of "Ubers" in the Arena who have no clue about PVP. Gear has nothing to do with PVP skill, or even play skill at all.

Probally less than 5% of "uber" rogues on blue servers would not bite it on your ds alone, probally before you ever had to heal..

Wizards are a horrible PVP class anyway (against someone just the same level), against a similarly geared person they are close to the worst.

Well played Knights with 2H (And to some extent 2H Rangers/Warriors/Monks) are they only thing you really have to fear in the arena. The knights because Sks seem to get fairly low resists on their snares (maybe just a perception) and paladins defiantely have a low resist stun. Necros can be a tad dangerous, if you do not have good resists. Enchanters can onyl be annoying, not particulary dangerous.

Grendul3164
07-27-2004, 12:41 PM
Shamans with can be particularly nasty in the arena if they know what they're doing...

Tubben
08-12-2004, 07:25 PM
Enchanters can onyl be annoying, not particulary dangerous.

Thats pretty much wrong ;P

Rapture, Ancient Rapture, Recant Magic, ToT, Mana Sieve, Fire Elemental Form, DS, Selfhaste and some decent weapons you can get in time, makes an skilled enchanter an pita.

There are several things you can do against Rapture + Ancient Rapture, but i think most blue server druids arent really prepared to fight an good enchanter.

Moonnie
08-12-2004, 08:48 PM
dot yourself ? use a dot clicky ?

But chanters are nasy specialy there stupid runes :)

tawnos
08-13-2004, 10:32 AM
dot yourself ? use a dot clicky ?
Druid dots are easily dispelled. There's not much to do against a druid well-supplied with crimson potions however.

Jarvalor
08-13-2004, 01:54 PM
rapture and ancient rapture only mez up to level 61..Only bliss of the nihil, bliss, sleep and word of morrell are any good against level 65 pvp. None of which are lure at all

tawnos
08-13-2004, 04:49 PM
The level cap on rapture and ancient rapture did not apply when cast on players in pvp situations. I don't know if they've changed that with the recent pvp patch.