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nieros
08-11-2004, 08:24 AM
11 August,2004
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Headlines!
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New PVP System goes live *
Raid Leaders can set up and change groups from the Raid Window *
Special Skies are back!
New Hot Zones
EQ will now be more friendly in Windowed mode


All New PVP System for PVP Servers *
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The Watch List:
- Safe Zones: We’’re still looking into a better solution for the problem of safe zones. Expect some kind of change in the future.
- Point System: There are still concerns of potential exploits with the point system at this time. Therefore the selection of PvP items available on the merchants will be limited to consumable items for now. We’ll monitor the accumulation of points after this update. If all goes well, we will add a selection of equipment to the merchants in the near future.
- Sullon Tokens: As a secondary concern with the point system, we are delaying the addition of the turn-in quest for Sullon Zek tokens. If there’s a potential problem with the point system that eventually requires us to make adjustments to the way points are awarded, we don’t want players to end up with less than full credit for these tokens. Once the point system has had any potential issues ironed out we will add a quest to turn in your tokens for PvP points.

PvP Combat Changes

- Melee attacks have a 50% increased range. This does not affect thrown weapons or archery.
- The maximum damage any one spell can do is now capped at 40% of the target’s total hit points, down from 75%.
- Archery damage has been increased to 80% of its base damage in PvP, up from 66%.
- Being stunned while on a horse will now cause the horse to disappear. This only applies to stuns caused by other players.
- Lowered player melee mitigation, effectively lowering Armor Class by 20%. This will increase the damage potential of melee weapons in PvP. Originally the targets full armor class was considered.
- Player spells now have a separate duration field for PvP. Individual spells will continue to be tuned during beta.
- Player spells now have a PvP specific resist mod. Spell lines with resist mods differing from their normal adjusts initially include:
Movement Rate
Root
Enthrall
Mana Drain
Stuns
Direct Damage
Damage over Time
Pet procs/innates
- Added higher level snare spells for rangers/druids with increased resists mods. This should allow them to land snare spells with similar frequency to other snare spells. These spells are available on the PvP merchants for 1 point each.
- Necro and Mage pets have had their PvP resists increased to closer match the existing Beastlord pet resists.
- Lowered the duration of most snare, Enthrall, and Root spells and abilities.
- Berserker snare is no longer unresistable.
- Added a set of pumice stones to the PvP merchants that will cast various forms of dispel magic with a 1.5 second cast, 12 second cast time.
- Arena deaths will now place you at your bind point, and not in shadowrest.
- PvP Resurrection effects now last 5 minutes + 1 minute/negative vitality point. The Max duration is now 15 minutes instead of 25.
- Made further changes to prevent hill ghosting. Please test this and give feedback.
- Ranged weapons are no longer restricted by the Z axis, allowing greater freedom of use on varied terrain.
- Snare will now properly slow mounts. The mount will still be faster then normal running while snared, but will considerably decrease their movement rate.
- Spells now have a minimum chance of landing of 5%, up from 2%.
- Water will no longer cause you to be immune to people outside of water and vice versa.
- Zoning with low health will no longer set your hit points equal to the amount of +HP gear you are wearing.
- Players killed in PvP combat will now spawn in Shadowrest with full equipment. A naked corpse will remain in the location they died for 3 hours. Note that this effectively removes item loot from Rallos Zek. With the addition of no drop augments it became rather trivial to effectively remove item loot from the server anyway, and we felt the benefits of the new death system outweigh the benefits of an item loot system.
- Players who are killed in PvP combat will respawn with special resurrection effects on them. The duration of these effects is variable dependant on how frequently they die.
- Summon Corpse Potions are now usable by any class/race.
- A system to score PvP kills has been implemented. For more information see below.

Scoring System

- The new scoring system will award points to any player who kills another player. If the player is grouped the points will be split between the players in the group. The points awarded will be based on three things:

1. Level of the killer

2. Scoring Modifier

a. Level Difference (Each kill has a base point cost determined by the level of the killer. All subsequent modifiers apply to this base number.)For each level the killer is above or below the victim, the scoring modifier increase by one point. If you kill some one who is higher level than you, you’ll gain more points than you will for a lower level character. You will also subtract points from your modifier for killing a player lower level then you.

b. Infamy Difference - Each time you kill another player, points are added to your infamy pool. At certain thresholds a player will gain an infamy level. When a player is killed, the infamy levels are compared and the killer gains a scoring modifier point for each infamy level his victim is above him. He can also lose scoring modifier points for killing someone who is of lower infamy. Infamy will gradually deteriorate while the player is online.

c. Vitality score - When a player is killed their vitality is set to –10. For each 5 minutes they are alive, they will gain back two points of vitality. This vitality total is added directly to the scoring

d. Group bonus - Groups of 4 or more will receive a bonus % of points for each kill. 4/10%, 5/15%, 6/20%.

3. Time since the victim was last killed by the same player. Players that repeatedly kill the same player will see a steep decrease in the amount of points a player is worth. They will gain half the points for the kill they normally would for each time they kill that player in a 24 hour period. After the score has dropped below 1 point, they will begin to lose points for killing the same player.

Example: Frizznik kills Rytan. Frizznik is level 60, while Rytan is level 62 for a level difference of 2. Frizznik has an infamy level of 5, while Rytan has an infamy level of 2, which results in infamy difference of –3. Rytan has not recently been killed, so his vitality is 0. Level Difference + Infamy Difference + Vitality = Scoring Point Modifier or 2 + (-3) + 0.

- Each scoring modifier point adds or subtracts 5% to the base score. Normally Frizznik would gain 100 points for killing Rytan, but because of the scoring point modifier he will gain 95 points instead.


Leader Board

- The leader board tracks the players with the most total PvP. A number of other useful statistics will be available in the leader board.
Point Rewards
- A player’s point total is capped based on their level. They cannot gain more points once they hit that cap, although they can gain more infamy. There will be a number of consumable PvP items that will be focused on PvP combat, and will only function against other players.

Windowed Mode *
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The EverQuest process is now more friendly. Alt+tab'ing to other windows should be much more responsive.You can also choose to adjust your maximum Frames Per Second(FPS) in the Options Window under display settings. The valid range for the slider is 10 to 100. The default is 100 which means EverQuest will not throttle your FPS. Lowering your setting will cap your FPS at that value and free up the CPU for other tasks.


Hot Zones have changed! *
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Hunt for greater XP rewards in the new Hot Spots. Make your way to the following zones.

60-65 Plane of Torment
55-60 Chardok
50-55 Grieg's End
45-50 Nurga
40-45 City of Mist
35-40 Kaesora
30-35 Dalnir
25-30 Hollowshade Moor
20-25 Runnyeye

Kill a few goblins for me. Oh, and that Grieg guy.

AA Changes
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- The cleric AA Touch of the Divine has had its healing power increased. The original ability has been refunded, so players who wish to retain the ability will need to purchase it again. The portion of the AA that will remove detrimental effects, when it goes off, will not be going in with this update.
- The necromancer AA Swarm of Decay has been refunded.
- The shaman AA Call of the Ancients has had its description changed to reflect the fact that the summoned ward casts healing spells, not endurance regen spells. The ability has been refunded because of this confusion.
- The rogue ability Seized Opportunity has had its chance to work significantly increased.
- The druid ability Viscid Roots was increasing the chance for roots to break, not decreasing it. This has been corrected.
- The paladin ability Hastened Piety now affects the reuse time for both Hand of Piety and its upgrade, Pious Supplication. Previously, it wasn’t affecting Pious Supplication.
- When an AA is an upgrade of another AA and both are triggered abilities, players can make a hotkey and use either one, but will only get the upgraded effect if they use the hotkey for the upgraded ability.



Tacvi Changes
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- Tacvi will no longer give lockout timers. Instead, when you beat an encounter there, you will gain a timer for that specific event. Then, when you come back to the zone, if that timer hasn’t expired yet that particular event won’t be up, but other events in the zone will be if it has been long enough since the last time they were defeated.
- Loot in Tacvi has been given a thorough audit. Many changes were made including changes to the statistics of the items, changing item names, changing where the items drop, and over a dozen new items were added to the zone.
- The Tacvi zone timer was increased from 6 hours to 12 hours.

Misc.
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- Diamond Dust will now drop more frequently in permafrost and can now also be found in SolusekB *

- Names will now scale with character they’re associated with. So a giant will have a much larger name than a Halfling will while retaining its much smaller brain.
- Names for larger characters will be visible from a greater distance than the names for smaller characters are. They will also scale up slightly as you increase your distance from a character, making them more readable from a greater distance.
- Tinting should now work properly again on Robes, let the Fluorescent Pink tinting begin!
- We have added Tooltips for your status bars.*
- We have made some changes to the fonts EQ uses so that they are more clear and visible.




-- The EverQuest Team

*denotes a community requested change


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Scoring for PvP......

Welcome to EverQuake. Your in our world now!

Bodhivista
08-11-2004, 08:47 AM
hmm, no mention of the barindu ports going live. Are we gonna have to wait for the expansion for them?

Eridalafar
08-11-2004, 09:12 AM
Wait to when Lucy will be updated and see if the new port have made to live server.

Eridalafar

Kryttos Arcadia
08-11-2004, 09:59 AM
heh. Funny thing about the diamond dust.. i had feedbacked it the day before and i talked to Brenlo and Zajeer last night about it on beta. =D

Toprem
08-11-2004, 10:18 AM
omg, bout damn time the fixed the skies in zones. I hated it when i was in Twilight farming tradeskill junk and could look up in the sky and see luclin O_o.

Why make diamond dust more common? They should make all the drops from Silverwings damn quest drop more often, when I gain entire AAs in Nadox and The Deep b/c i need something to drop, something is definetly wrong. And diamond dust wasnt that hard to get for me, got it off my first Magus kill :OP

Chubbexul Demonsbane
08-11-2004, 10:37 AM
So in th higlights its mentions a change to the way a raid leader can change groups any ifno on this

Chubbexul Demonsbane
08-11-2004, 11:19 AM
So anyone have information on the raid changes that occured?

Glynna1
08-11-2004, 11:31 AM
Barindu portals are showing up as live on Lucy :D

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/newspells.html?source=Live&date=2004-08-11%2010:25:30

Mannwin Woobie
08-11-2004, 11:38 AM
Just tried to log in. Iknow I am early, but I wanted to check. Got this message :

"The login server is not currently allowing connections. This is most likely due to a server patch that currently in progress. Please try again later."

I never got this before. Nice addition! (although that second sentence is missing a word).

Alannonn
08-11-2004, 12:07 PM
I'm confused. Didn't they say they would be reducing the reuse timer of SoTW for us in the "next patch?" Well, this is the next patch........

Al

Chubbexul Demonsbane
08-11-2004, 12:10 PM
um they did it like 2 weeks ago, its now 15 mins =)

Elephi
08-11-2004, 12:17 PM
omg, bout damn time the fixed the skies in zones. I hated it when i was in Twilight farming tradeskill junk and could look up in the sky and see luclin O_o.

actually, the moon you see in the sky on norrath (or on luclin since dx9 :p) is supposed to be Drinal.

norrath has 3 moons even though you just see one. Luclin is the ringed one (like in the old posky sky).

Vowelumos
08-11-2004, 01:07 PM
My advice for PVP server players is to look up :)

Kileren
08-11-2004, 01:15 PM
There is an updated patch message on the wizard's site:

http://www.graffe.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20729

Grendul3164
08-11-2004, 01:45 PM
Wizard site is blocked from work. Druids > Wizards apparently!

Can anyone copy/paste it?

Kileren
08-11-2004, 01:59 PM
First version didn't have all changes... heh

11 August,2004
_____________________
Headlines!
_____________________
New PVP System goes live *
Raid Leaders can set up and change groups from the Raid Window *
Special Skies are back!
New Hot Zones
EQ will now be more friendly in Windowed mode

All New PVP System for PVP Servers *
_____________________
The Watch List:
- Safe Zones: We’re still looking into a better solution for the problem of safe zones. Expect some kind of change in the future.
- Point System: There are still concerns of potential exploits with the point system at this time. Therefore the selection of PvP items available on the merchants will be limited to consumable items for now. We’ll monitor the accumulation of points after this update. If all goes well, we will add a selection of equipment to the merchants in the near future.
- Sullon Tokens: As a secondary concern with the point system, we are delaying the addition of the turn-in quest for Sullon Zek tokens. If there’s a potential problem with the point system that eventually requires us to make adjustments to the way points are awarded, we don’t want players to end up with less than full credit for these tokens. Once the point system has had any potential issues ironed out we will add a quest to turn in your tokens for PvP points.
PvP Changes
- Melee attacks have a 50% increased range. This does not affect thrown weapons or archery.
- All safe zones have been removed save Shadowrest and the Bazaar.
- The maximum damage any one spell can do is now capped at 40% of the target’s total hit points, down from 75%.
- Archery damage has been increased to 80% of its base damage in PvP, up from 66%.
- Being stunned while on a horse will now cause the horse to disappear. This only applies to stuns caused by other players.
- Lowered player melee mitigation, effectively lowering Armor Class by 20%. This will increase the damage potential of melee weapons in PvP. Originally the targets full armor class was considered.
- Player spells now have a separate duration field for PvP. Individual spells will continue to be tuned during beta.
- Player spells now have a PvP specific resist mod. Spell lines with resist mods differing from their normal adjusts initially include:
Movement Rate
Root
Enthrall
Mana Drain
Stuns
Direct Damage
Damage over Time
Pet procs/innates
- Added higher level snare spells for rangers/druids with increased resists mods. This should allow them to land snare spells with similar frequency to other snare spells. These spells are available on the PvP merchants for 1 point each.
- Necro and Mage pets have had their PvP resists increased to closer match the existing Beastlord pet resists.
- Lowered the duration of most snare, Enthrall, and Root spells and abilities.
- Berserker snare is no longer unresistable.
- Added a set of pumice stones to the PvP merchants that will cast various forms of dispel magic with a 1.5 second cast, 12 second cast time.
- Arena deaths will now place you at your bind point, and not in shadowrest.
- PvP Resurrection effects now last 5 minutes + 1 minute/negative vitality point. The Max duration is now 15 minutes instead of 25.
- Made further changes to prevent hill ghosting. Please test this and give feedback.
- Ranged weapons are no longer restricted by the Z axis, allowing greater freedom of use on varied terrain.
- Snare will now properly slow mounts. The mount will still be faster then normal running while snared, but will considerably decrease their movement rate.
- Spells now have a minimum chance of landing of 5%, up from 2%.
- Water will no longer cause you to be immune to people outside of water and vice versa.
- Zoning with low health will no longer set your hit points equal to the amount of +HP gear you are wearing.
- Players killed in PvP combat will now spawn in Shadowrest with full equipment. A naked corpse will remain in the location they died for 3 hours. Note that this effectively removes item loot from Rallos Zek. With the addition of no drop augments it became rather trivial to effectively remove item loot from the server anyway, and we felt the benefits of the new death system outweigh the benefits of an item loot system.
- Players who are killed in PvP combat will respawn with special resurrection effects on them. The duration of these effects is variable dependant on how frequently they die.
- Summon Corpse Potions are now usable by any class/race.
- A system to score PvP kills has been implemented. For more information see below.
Scoring System
The new scoring system will award points to any player who kills another player. If the player is grouped the points will be split between the players in the group. The points awarded will be based on three things:
1. Level of the killer
2. Scoring Modifier
a. Level Difference
b. Infamy Difference
c. Vitality score
3. Time since the victim was last killed by the same player.
1. Level of the killer
Each kill has a base point cost determined by the level of the killer. All subsequent modifiers apply to this base number.
2. Scoring modifier
The scoring modifier is based on three things. Each of these factors results in a score that is then applied in whole to the point value of the kill.
a. Level Difference
For each level the killer is above or below the victim, the scoring modifier increase by one point. If you kill some one who is higher level than you, you’ll gain more points then you will for a lower level character. You will also subtract points from your modifier for killing a player lower level than you.
Higher level characters are more powerful, and should be worth more points. A victim must be at least level 20 to awards points.
b. Infamy Difference
Each time you kill another player, points are added to your infamy pool. At certain thresholds a player will gain an infamy level. When a player is killed, the infamy levels are compared and the killer gains a scoring modifier point for each infamy level his victim is above him. He can also lose scoring modifier points for killing someone who is of lower infamy. Infamy will gradually deteriorate while the player is online.
Players who regularly PvP are generally of higher skill level then those that do not. This encourages players to kill other players who are of more equivalent skill.
c. Vitality
When a player is killed their vitality is set to –10. For each 5 minutes they are alive, they will gain back two points of vitality. This vitality total is added directly to the scoring modifier.
A player who dies very frequently is worth less points then one who stays alive longer.
d. Group bonus
Groups of 4 or more will receive a bonus % of points for each kill. 4/10%, 5/15%, 6/20%.
Example:
Frizznik kills Rytan. Frizznik is level 60, while Rytan is level 62 for a level difference of 2. Frizznik has an infamy level of 5, while Rytan has an infamy level of 2, which results in infamy difference of –3. Rytan has not recently been killed, so his vitality is 0. Level Difference + Infamy Difference + Vitality = Scoring Point Modifier or 2 + (-3) + 0.
Each scoring modifier point adds or subtracts 5% to the base score. Normally Frizznik would gain 100 points for killing Rytan, but because of the scoring point modifier he will gain 95 points instead.
3. Time since the killer has killed the same victim
Players that repeatedly kill the same player will see a steep decrease in the amount of points a player is worth. They will gain half the points for the kill they normally would for each time they kill that player in a 24 hour period. After the score has dropped below 1 point, they will begin to lose points for killing the same player.
Leader Board
The leader board tracks the players with the most total PvP. A number of other useful statistics will be available in the leader board.
Point Rewards
Players will be able to redeem their points for equipment via a Lost Dungeons of Norrath style adventure merchant interface. These rewards will span from level 20 on up to 65 and include some pieces that are of elemental quality and possibly beyond.
A player’s point total is capped based on their level. They cannot gain more points once they hit that cap, although they can gain more infamy. There will be a number of consumable PvP items that will be focused on PvP combat, and will only function against other players.

Windowed Mode *
_____________________

The EverQuest process is now more friendly. Alt+tab'ing to other windows should be much more responsive.You can also choose to adjust your maximum Frames Per Second(FPS) in the Options Window under display settings. The valid range for the slider is 10 to 100. The default is 100 which means EverQuest will not throttle your FPS. Lowering your setting will cap your FPS at that value and free up the CPU for other tasks.

Raid Window Additions
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- The raid window contains a new row of buttons which the raid leader can use to organize the raid members into groups.
- Lock/Unlock: The raid must be locked before the raid leader may use any of the new buttons.
- RemLeader: Removes the 'Group Leader' flag from the selected player from the 'Players Not in a Group' list. (Only 12 players may be Group Leaders, so this may be necessary to allow creation of a new group with a new leader).
- NoGroup: Removes the selected player from their current group and put them into the 'Players Not in a Group' list.
- 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12: Moves the selected player into the numbered group.

Hot Zones have changed! *
_____________________
Hunt for greater XP rewards in the new Hot Spots. Make your way to the following zones.
60-65 Plane of Torment
55-60 Chardok
50-55 Grieg's End
45-50 Nurga
40-45 City of Mist
35-40 Kaesora
30-35 Dalnir
25-30 Hollowshade Moor
20-25 Runnyeye

Kill a few goblins for me. Oh, and that Grieg guy.

AA Changes
_____________________

- The cleric AA Touch of the Divine has had its healing power increased. The original ability has been refunded, so players who wish to retain the ability will need to purchase it again. The portion of the AA that will remove detrimental effects, when it goes off, will not be going in with this update.
- The necromancer AA Swarm of Decay has been refunded.
- The shaman AA Call of the Ancients has had its description changed to reflect the fact that the summoned ward casts healing spells, not endurance regen spells. The ability has been refunded because of this confusion.
- The rogue ability Seized Opportunity has had its chance to work significantly increased.
- The druid ability Viscid Roots was increasing the chance for roots to break, not decreasing it. This has been corrected.
- The paladin ability Hastened Piety now affects the reuse time for both Hand of Piety and its upgrade, Pious Supplication. Previously, it wasn’t affecting Pious Supplication.
- When an AA is an upgrade of another AA and both are triggered abilities, players can make a hotkey and use either one, but will only get the upgraded effect if they use the hotkey for the upgraded ability.
- The Mass Group Buff AA will now reset if you duck to cancel the spell.
- The double attack AA now works with secondary hand attacks.

Consent Changes *
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There are some new consent commands available for groups and raids.
- /consent group -- flags your current corpses so they can be dragged by all of your current group members
- /consent raid -- flags your current corpses so they can be dragged by anyone in your raid (including people who join the raid later)
- /consent guild -- flags your current corpses so they can be dragged by anyone in your guild
- /deny group -- removes the flag
- /deny raid -- removes the flag
- /deny guild -- removes the flag

Tacvi Changes
_____________________

- Tacvi will no longer give lockout timers. Instead, when you beat an encounter there, you will gain a timer for that specific event. Then, when you come back to the zone, if that timer hasn’t expired yet that particular event won’t be up, but other events in the zone will be if it has been long enough since the last time they were defeated.
- Loot in Tacvi has been given a thorough audit. Many changes were made including changes to the statistics of the items, changing item names, changing where the items drop, and over a dozen new items were added to the zone.
- The Tacvi zone timer was increased from 6 hours to 12 hours.

Misc.
_____________________

- Diamond Dust will now drop more frequently in permafrost and can now also be found in SolusekB *
- Names will now scale with character they’re associated with. So a giant will have a much larger name than a Halfling will while retaining its much smaller brain.
- Names for larger characters will be visible from a greater distance than the names for smaller characters are. They will also scale up slightly as you increase your distance from a character, making them more readable from a greater distance.
- Tinting should now work properly again on Robes, let the Fluorescent Pink tinting begin!
- We have added Tooltips for your status bars.*
- We have made some changes to the fonts EQ uses so that they are more clear and visible.
- Pets will no longer attacks NPCs after their owner has COH'd
- The Fiery Defenders particles should no longer blink
- If your Minor Illusion fails, you will be able to use another illusion on yourself without zoning.
- Instant cast combat abilities can once again be used when you have a discipline up.
- Augments now fit into multiple slot types.
- Zoning pets will now save their taunt toggle settings.
- Spell damage done to yourself will no longer display to others.
- Pets will no longer poof when you are Call of Hero'd.
- Weapon Augments will now proc properly.

*denotes a community requested change

Tudamorf
08-11-2004, 02:36 PM
Emergency patch #1 at 11:45 A.M. PST.

Colcannon Bacstai
08-11-2004, 02:49 PM
http://eqforums.station.sony.com/eq/board/message?board.id=Crier&message.id=27#M27

duralupal
08-11-2004, 03:11 PM
Was a bunch 'o new gear at the wayfarer camps, including I heard 1900pt sets, wonder if that's the emergency patch....

corlathist
08-11-2004, 03:42 PM
saw a couple links on the gear. 100-110 base stats. But where I felt gipped is that aug slots sucked. One type 7.

If it had 3,7 or 1,2,3 i could see thm as upgrades but as is, most of the 1492
with its 75-85 will be more customizable, and potentially better than the 1950.

Sunfire
08-11-2004, 04:03 PM
I'm gonna be so pissed if they take that gear off - will punish everyone who didnt happen to be on at the right time.

I was about to buy 2 pieces also - was really good gear, elemental quality with foci, FT and regen. 1550 sets had all 3 aug slots, 1900 sets had only a slot 7 but were amazing.

Why is it every time they do something right they freakin go and undo it!

Toprem
08-11-2004, 04:13 PM
i bought 2 1900pt pieces, guk leather bracer, and 40hp aug to go on one of the 1900pt pieces, most likely they will remove it from the merchants but place it back when OoW goes live. Now i gotta do more adventures cause i only have *1* adv point left...

corlathist
08-11-2004, 04:36 PM
i bought 2 1900pt pieces, guk leather bracer, and 40hp aug to go on one of the 1900pt pieces, most likely they will remove it from the merchants but place it back when OoW goes live. Now i gotta do more adventures cause i only have *1* adv point left...

how many slots were on it? and how many hps/mana?

Sunfire
08-11-2004, 04:46 PM
how many slots were on it? and how many hps/mana?

The 1900 AP pieces only have 1 slot 7 and were about 100-120 hp/mana each.

Tudamorf
08-11-2004, 05:01 PM
The LDoN merchants now have <u>NO</u> new gear above 1492 points.

The Magus has no new portal spells (not that that necessarily means anything).

Tiane
08-11-2004, 05:10 PM
The things they mark done "at community request" are hilarious. Were people really clamouring for new "hot zones"? Maybe, if only because LoY is still a pita to get to. As for the "Friendlier in a windowed environment", that should rather be marked "because we finally got pissed off enough to make the two line fix to the code (as explicitly detailed by Lax) when Lax started to charge a subscription for the free one he'd been making for a year or so, and we cant have anyone but us making money off of EQ!"

That's the second time they've mucked up the LDoN merchants with items they arent "supposed" to have... hilarious... no doubt that was a community request...

New Raid and consent functionality is great (for raiders), that's for sure. Rest of it is pretty ho hum.

Terfiron
08-11-2004, 05:18 PM
i bought 2 1900pt pieces, guk leather bracer, and 40hp aug to go on one of the 1900pt pieces, most likely they will remove it from the merchants but place it back when OoW goes live. Now i gotta do more adventures cause i only have *1* adv point left...

I wonder if those pieces that you bought are actually the ones that the PVP people can buy with the new point system... Seems that they might have accidently linked those to the LdoN merchants and that carried over to Live.

Serenya
08-11-2004, 05:24 PM
I wonder if those pieces that you bought are actually the ones that the PVP people can buy with the new point system... Seems that they might have accidently linked those to the LdoN merchants and that carried over to Live.

According to Brenlo, that's what happened.

Glynna1
08-11-2004, 05:37 PM
Where are the new portal spells?

Xitix
08-11-2004, 07:29 PM
They added a book to Gunthak a while ago. LoY is certainly not a pain to get to.

corlathist
08-11-2004, 10:01 PM
According to Brenlo, that's what happened.

was some really nice links floating around. stuff was basically a cut and paste of Vex Thall gear. wish i had bought some before it disappeared.

:<

Sunfire
08-12-2004, 02:53 AM
was some really nice links floating around. stuff was basically a cut and paste of Vex Thall gear. wish i had bought some before it disappeared.

:<

So does almost everyone - so uh, why don't they put it back. They're letting the people that did buy it keep it. At this point, with OoW coming out next month is it really THAT unbalancing to let people have some fun doing LDONs and get some VT quality gear.

This is typical SoE - they have to screw up in order to do something right then they can't trip over themselves fast enough to undo it.

I promise I'm quitting if the armors dont come back but the existing ones are allowed to stay. That was a well-done, welcome addition to LDON. Well-crafted too because for 1550 you could get items with few non-hp/mana stats that were highly customizable (3 slots) but for 1900 you could get great items but with only 1 type 7 slot. They were the same in all themes so people could buy items useful for them regardless of where they had done the most adventures.

If they cant do this right then after 5+ years I'm done - I already passed on SWG (which I would have jumped at if ANYONE else was making it) and I'll pass on EQII and go straight to WoW. Blizzard's already shown they have a 1000x better idea what a druid is than SoE does these days.

Mannwin Woobie
08-12-2004, 07:37 AM
They're letting the people that did buy it keep it.

Nothing against the people that bought it, but if this is true they need to put it back so we can all have the same options.

Chubbexul Demonsbane
08-12-2004, 08:50 AM
Goodbye Sunfire :thumbup:

nieros
08-12-2004, 09:33 AM
A post from my guilds msg board :

When they brought the servers back down, they also did a roll back. Or at least deleted any items ppl purchased that were for pvp and not us. Have a friend who picked up some nice gloves and they were gone when the servers came back up.


Just fyi.

- nieros

Sunfire
08-12-2004, 04:45 PM
A post from my guilds msg board :

When they brought the servers back down, they also did a roll back. Or at least deleted any items ppl purchased that were for pvp and not us. Have a friend who picked up some nice gloves and they were gone when the servers came back up.


Just fyi.

- nieros

Everyone in my guild still has all the stuff they bought.

Also the people that got the rage armor when they did this a month ago also still have it.

The only stuff that got rolled back were items purchased in the last 10 minutes before the server went down.