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Vilayet
09-30-2004, 03:00 PM
Did anyone else notice that the Disease Rune (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=62837) is NO RENT??

Sorta resembles the Globe of Fireflies from Epic 1.0...

--Speculation--

Disease Rune + Soul Stone in Mangled Head = Runed Skull

Runed Skull to Niera = Niera's Research Notes

Midoriana
09-30-2004, 03:03 PM
Sorry to hear that Logilitie ... =( makes Wayne Brady wanna smack a newb ~
good luck on the petition.

as for the new info... ahmygawd! lemme go home so I can help!!! *insane laugh/cry*

Vilayet
09-30-2004, 03:06 PM
hrmmm...

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=62829

all/all useable

Vekx
09-30-2004, 03:08 PM
Just info that could be added to what we already know to help clean up epic guide.

If the Raider in EW is not engaged it will despawn in 30 min...
and the respawn will take 90 min.

If you kill the Raider it will respawn in 110 min.

shadow5455
09-30-2004, 03:52 PM
From reading the text it seems that the head (when once attached to the body) started in sirens grotto .. and ended up in feerot .. here is the path one would take to get there

sirens grotto,colbalt scar, skyshrine, wakening land, kael, eastern wastes, ceclad, northern desert of ro, east commonlands, west commonlands, kithicor
high pass hold, eastern karana, northern karana, southern karana, lake rathetear
rathe mountains, feerot -dead

at some point in time he jumped over to kunark and was in frontier mountains and loio ... who knows where else

hope this helps

Tryon
09-30-2004, 04:04 PM
Did anyone else notice that the Disease Rune (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=62837) is NO RENT??

hmm, No Drop and No Rent, didn't notice the No Rent part. I Doubt it's a mob drop then. This means we have to summon it ourselfves somehow.

Emeralde
09-30-2004, 04:05 PM
same thing happened to me yesterday morning,

After telling a noob to not touch anything, he still attacked the madman after I spawned the 2nd cylce.

killed the 2nd cycle, 3rd cycle doesnt spawn, another druid comes by and helps me, I egress come back 3rd cycle is up, kill it, same with 4th. Get to the very End. Event is bugged, we have a DB Madman, but he wont do anything.

After 30 mins of trying to get it to work , we ended up just killing him and I camped it all over again for another hour.

Its crazy how you tell someone not to do anything and they still do it, he replied well I was just thristy.

/shrug He should have said something :) I had plenty of water on me :(

Logilitie
09-30-2004, 04:09 PM
The order of Tuomas's updated items in Lucy's hmmm

Rusty Mining Pick (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=62829) at 12:14

Animating Heads (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=62828) at 12:48 ( thanks Mahrya )

Diseased Rune (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=62837) at 13:00

Runed Skull (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=62838) at 13:01

Niera's Research Notes (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=62843) at 13:05

Vilayet
09-30-2004, 04:16 PM
--more speculation --

Tuomas got the Rusty Mining Pick from somewhere @12:14, went to Feerrott, did something to get the Diseased Rune @13:00, combined it and the Soul Stone in the Mangled Head in the vicinity of the bridge and received the Runed Skull @13:01, ported to SFG, turned in the Runed Skull to Niera and received Niera's Research Notes @13:05.

Midoriana
09-30-2004, 04:17 PM
Just another random thought... In our first epic we take the dust of Neria's departed mother to "a human skeleton" in Frontier Mountians and he gives us the necklace and despawns. How about asking him about the managled head or animating the head? Just a thought but if we are using Neria again - maybe we should ask that human skeleton (he is dead and doesn't hurt us) if he can help us again? :)

Aerohn
09-30-2004, 04:24 PM
That route doesn't really consider the possibility of teleporting, but I guess it's worth considering.

Personally, I'm operating on the theory that this is bigger than one person. For example:

One person starts out in Rathe Mountains, possibly having the unkempt druids corrupt his maiden's hair, for distribution around the Antonica - or perhaps for a specific target in Antonica. He leaves the mountains and is promptly dumped into the river in Feerrott and eaten by the Swamp Terror. We have his head and a bit of the Maiden's hair from that fateful trip. We'll call him, for kicks, Antonica Man. He's definitely dead, as we're trying to reanimate his head.

Another distributor, who we'll call Kunark Man, sets out to poison Kunark - or perhaps a specific target in Kunark. We have a bit of his diseased maiden hair, recovered from goblins, who seem to claim they've eaten him. Assuming that's true...we have a second dead distributor in Kunark Man.

I could continue this with Velious Man, but he could be either of the previous two, simply at another point in the trip, as we don't have any indication that he died. In any case, both (or all) of these guys are working for one entity. It could be a person, a god, the unkempt, whatever.

Most of this came from the obvious conflicts and Niera noting that there was no pattern. I'm guessing that with the Soulstone from Geadin and the new information on animating the head, we'll essentially get a message from Antonica Man, identifying himself and setting us on a mission to either stop more of these distributors (Luclin Man, Velious Man, Odus Man, Faydwer Man etc.) or lead to information on curing the disease, or both - which will prompt a confrontation with the entity responsible.

Yes, this is all a guess and doesn't really have any affect on our current status, but I thought I'd post it. On the off chance that it might spark a thought in someone else's head on where to look.

As far as the current step is concerned, unless someone managed to find Geadin for more information on animating this skull, the ideas on checking with necromancers and other nefarious characters (perhaps the outcasts behind the secret wall in Echo Caverns) seem like prime targets for getting information on animating this skull.

Feel free to bash or ignore, as you see fit. :)

Mahrya
09-30-2004, 04:28 PM
Logilitie wrote:

The order of Tuomas's updated items in Lucy's hmmm

Rusty Mining Pick at 12:14

Diseased Rune at 13:00

Runed Skull at 13:01

Niera's Research Notes at 13:05



You forgot the note about Animating Heads he recieved at 12:48. This is the item we are to find next, I believe. Seems he was searching Velious zones because of the mining pick he submitted, but with the time difference between the pick and note, he could've found it anywhere. I'm going to head to ToFS after work and look there, as well as other Velious zones.

inchigh
09-30-2004, 04:30 PM
I did a quest for Vdrae In Nadarias Landing - collect 4 hides.... (she said she may have info for me if i help her). upon handing in the 4 hides:-

"What a relief! I was just about out of hides to work with. Thank you! Here is your reward (XP and a few coins). Oh, did you know that Morden Rasp had the Grozmok Stone for some time? Several of us knew, but were sworn to secrecy. Morden plucked it right out of the smelly hands of the trolls at Broken Skull Rock I hear."

- So I think hmm I'll go speak with Morden incase this is related BUT he appears to have disappeared????

Maybe the head belongs to Morden?

If not where is he - he aint in Abysmal Sea or Nedarias Landing or East commons?

Kryttos Arcadia
09-30-2004, 04:33 PM
Thats nothing. its a newbie quest in nedaria's landing

Logilitie
09-30-2004, 04:35 PM
Drops: This item is found on creatures.
Befallen
A Skeletal Excavator who better to identify a mangled head :P

Chardok
A Chokidai Fleshripper
A Chokidai Growler
A Chokidai Herbsniffer
A Chokidai Mangler
A Chokidai Rootdigger
A Chokidai Sniffer
A Chokidai Whelp

Crushbone
A Dwarven Slave
An Elven Slave
Kelynn

Steamfont
A Gnome Slave

Tappin
09-30-2004, 04:37 PM
Didn't rusty picks drop in Crystal Caverns?

Kiters
09-30-2004, 04:43 PM
CC was my thought too. Perhaps there's a treasure chest or something we need to attack with a Rusty Mining pick to get the Animating Heads scroll...

Gamli
09-30-2004, 04:46 PM
Drops: This item is found on creatures.
Befallen
A Skeletal Excavator who better to identify a mangled head :P

Chardok
A Chokidai Fleshripper
A Chokidai Growler
A Chokidai Herbsniffer
A Chokidai Mangler
A Chokidai Rootdigger
A Chokidai Sniffer
A Chokidai Whelp

Crushbone
A Dwarven Slave
An Elven Slave
Kelynn

Steamfont
A Gnome Slave


this is not the same item. note the lucy id's

62828 Animating Heads
62829 Rusty Mining Pick

Aianya
09-30-2004, 04:46 PM
Any idea what time zone Lucy displays in? Could be someone got an idea from these boards or the druid boards shortly before they found the item.

Dominick
09-30-2004, 04:47 PM
Well, I was thinking that perhaps the same 'entity' that had started the first corruption was using that as the starting point.. We have found 2 beings that have been killed and eaten (feerrott and FM), so obviously we have more than one person spreading the problems.

We have a lot of similarities between this one and epic 1.0..
IE.. Corrupted HG = foraged hair
Corrupted BArricuda = handful of hair

While we have wandered away from epic 1.0 areas, a lot of it does correspond. Has anyone tried talking to the NPC's that we gave the essences to for 1.0? Not just withered treant and such but the guys (like Yeka Ias in South Karanas who gave you the Cleansed Spirit of Antonica.) that we turned items into that despawned??
Not sure if this will actually lead anywhere, but thought it might be worth a try..
:confused:

Meagan Nightshire
09-30-2004, 04:51 PM
I tried talking to the guy in SK last night saying a variety of things, got no responses. Of course the whole reanimating head thing hadn't been discovered yet.

Midoriana
09-30-2004, 04:54 PM
*scratches head*
Are we making this too hard? it's .. A Mining Pick .. used in mines. The only mines I can think of are Mines of Nurga, Crystal Caverns and Befallen .. yes I'm sure there are more... but look at these mines.

"T" talks to npc and receives mining pick or kills mob and loots mining pick.
He goes to a "mine" and mines something (ie spell scroll)? He gets the pick at 12:04 - would think that it would take a while to "mine something" because he got the spell scroll at 12:48. Possibly being in a location for a ground spawn?
Once he finds the spell scroll things move to fast for this to be a raid mob. And I can't see a mining pick falling off a raid type mob =p
As for the mines... Nurga is off FM - there is the "a human skeleton" talk to him whatever - go to nurga and mine something? OR...
Crystal caverns... there is the "terror" room - that is similar to the terror we kill in Feerott....
Befallen - a skeletal excavator ... well he's already mining so maybe he can tell us what/where we are supposed to mine?

Just thoughts - not trying to spam ... but provoke thoughts :) Good job guys!

kithkin
09-30-2004, 05:02 PM
Guys, just give it a little bit, the info will be posted.

It's killing me as much as ya'll, but I was at work when he must have figured stuff out. He's not on at this time.

Prophet Kithkin Sadriend (http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=306502)
Eternal Wrath (http://www.eternalwrath.org/)<ETERNAL Wrath>
Ayonae Ro (http://http://forums.ayonae.ro/)

Logilitie
09-30-2004, 05:04 PM
what are all those heads you have Gamli?

i see you have a bunch

Puella's Head Misc New Sep 30 3:02 PM
Amilia's Head Misc New Sep 30 3:02 PM
Xeegarn's Head Misc New Sep 30 3:02 PM
Locis' Head Misc New Sep 30 3:02 PM

Gamli
09-30-2004, 05:08 PM
what are all those heads you have Gamli?

i see you have a bunch

Puella's Head Misc New Sep 30 3:02 PM
Amilia's Head Misc New Sep 30 3:02 PM
Xeegarn's Head Misc New Sep 30 3:02 PM
Locis' Head Misc New Sep 30 3:02 PM

not mine, was linked in druidsgrove chat i clicked em first i guess
from some spawned bunch of giants and stuff in iceclad on the bridge to ww iirc. no idea if thats related, plus i doubt it

Ajjantis
09-30-2004, 05:10 PM
We are one step further!!!! Check out the walkthrough, thanks to the 3 finding that step out. Nothing beats Teamwork

Dominick
09-30-2004, 05:17 PM
Now THAT new step is funny :lmao:

My utmost respect to whomever figured all of THAT step out...
Keep up the good work guys :dance:
Guess I know what I will be doing tomorrow morning for a bit...

WandererDelas
09-30-2004, 05:22 PM
I know recently the hermit in South Karana will respond to the line "I wish to become an unkempt druid"

He will tell you to wait outside for Master Jale Phlintoes. I am pretty sure that I read somewhere the Jale Phlintoes was the leader of the unkempt druid.

I can get him to spawn but he didn't respond to any phrases that I could come up with and despawns withing a minute or two.

I am not completely caught up with the current state of the epic, so I can't try handing the notes to him yet. But I thought I would share incase someone else wanted to take a shot at it.

Oh yeah.. he does hand items back. :)

Little Flower
09-30-2004, 05:45 PM
:rolling: Oh my, now this quest is just getting ridiculous! Good work Nim, Krytt and Opti... and it seems like we've found our way to the "coven" part. Can't WAIT to see how this one plays out! :rolleyes:

Dev's -----> :twak: <----- Druid's

Corellan
09-30-2004, 05:49 PM
Just a note on this new step... even if your lines of text are showing up correctly on your screen, it doesn't mean they actualy are. A druid just failed this part because he didn't sing enough. His lines were showing up ok for him, but we'd see a lot of skipped lines. You should make sure you have a sufficient /pause in your hotkey.. /pause 20 is working for me so far.

/say Yo ho. No sun!!
/pause 20
/say A skeleton's day is never done
/pause 20

Last pause is important so you don't start and skip the first line too early. Friend says /pause 15 was good for him. Anyway, just a heads up... don't want people wasting 30 minutes of spamming for nothing~

Colcannon Bacstai
09-30-2004, 06:11 PM
WTF? :burn:

How the SMEG are we supposed to know we need to make a hotkey and :spam1: text for 30 minutes? Where are the in game clues that point us to this?

.. and more importantly what's to stop someone else from saying 'i am on the job' and ruining it for the poor druid who spent the last 30 minutes doing the quest?

LauranCoromell
09-30-2004, 06:28 PM
Good work guys! Congrats on getting so far with so little to go on.

Zryis
09-30-2004, 06:35 PM
Wasn't there some Unkempt on a island in OoT?

kithkin
09-30-2004, 06:45 PM
BTW. If you combine in the wrong spot your soul stone will poof.

I in fact combined my items at the exact spot Tuo did earlier and mine poofed...waiting on a GM to answer my petition now to get my soul stone back.....

Kryttos Arcadia
09-30-2004, 06:50 PM
prolly on same timer like as Swamp Terror.

kithkin
09-30-2004, 06:55 PM
actually, it just now emoted something, and it's bugged when I do the "show it" or "show it to me" text, I don't get the rune.

Aluaeia
09-30-2004, 06:56 PM
How in the bleeding unholy name of Jesus are we supposed to figure this crap out?

God I hate SOE more than ever.

Tenidina
09-30-2004, 06:57 PM
Someone was spamming WOS on Karana saying that http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=51440 is for our epic? Did i miss that somewhere in this thread? Or is this guy just full of it?

Alyssiax
09-30-2004, 06:57 PM
I was at excatly the right spot, combined the items in head and got the emotes to start...

I said who are you?
got the correct answer

what disease
got the correct answer

what plague
got the correct answer

so far so good i think to myself..

then I get the text with the [show it] choice and say
show it to me

I got nothing, no rune.

I did that entire script 10 times, got all answers correct but no response or runes for the last part.

I was not invis or hidden btw.

Lost my soul stone (

Scirocco
09-30-2004, 06:58 PM
/say A skeleton's day is never done
/pause 20

Last pause is important so you don't start and skip the first line too early


Actually, you don't need the first line. You can just spam the second line, given above, without the pause. As long as you are getting an echo message, you should be doing fine. Just do that and tell the abandoned pet that you are on the job when he comes around, and you should be alright.

Alyssiax
09-30-2004, 06:59 PM
Didnt see Kithkin reply..


Looks like we both didn't get rune and lost our soul stone... how lame

kithkin
09-30-2004, 07:03 PM
this must be the bugged part mentioned awhile ago....

Mine appears to have "despawned" now. no rune, and no soul stone

Kinday
09-30-2004, 07:09 PM
All I can say is--- wow. How you folks are figuring this out is beyond me. If there was ever a more obscure quest, from the in-game clues, I dunno what it might be. Kudos to everyone who's figured bits and pieces out.

Were you just talking to any undead mob you could find, and it happened to be when the script was "active?" Or was there something that sent you to Tox?


Kinday

Len the Druid
09-30-2004, 07:13 PM
You say, 'who are you'
compelled spirit says 'You don't even know who I am? You summon me back here and you don't even know me? There's no way I'll. . .' The voice wavers as it struggles to deny an answer to your question. The struggle is short, however, and he continues. 'Gah! Fine, my name is Sanmuel Gingerfly of Qeynos.'

You say, 'what disease'
compelled spirit says 'What do you want to know about disease? I'm kind of an expert. I know something about a great plague that you will soon die from! I helped create it!'

You say, 'what plague'
compelled spirit says 'I know that it is a special plague, designed by. . .' again he tries to resist speaking, but the power of the gem that binds him into his own skull is too powerful, 'Azibelle and the Afflicted. Oh, she's gonna be mad at me. It will grow in the plants and be eaten by the animals. It won't show any signs for a long time. By then you'll all have eaten something with the plague! I got to deliver some of it to the first victims! I even remember one of the key runes. I. . .' again the hesitation, 'can [show it] to you if you want.'





azibelle? (http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=12828)

froni
09-30-2004, 07:15 PM
Way back in April of 2001 was the GM event that started the plague in the Karanas. Azibelle Spavin, who seemed to be a paladin of Bertoxxulous, was at the road marker in Qeynos Hills and was looking for an item. When she got it, she did some magic and had people take the resulting noxious jar to MELDRATH only he was at the wizard spires in NK instead of his cave in Steamfont. There he released the plague that made the Karanas green and itchy for a couple of months. After the GM event to cleanse the plains was done (which surprisingly used the power of Rodcet Nife) Azibelle was incorporated into the Qeynos Badge of Honor quest and resides in the Qeynos Aqueducts. She is triggered by a hand in to Guard Helminth (I think that is the name).

I doubt any of this will be incorporated, but just in case wanted to post the lore. (It was the first GM event I ever saw, and while I was too little a druid to participate I had a philosophical discussion with Azibelle about disease and the balances in nature.)

Forgot to mention Mordavin Telase had to be captured in the event that ended the plague. I think Vegalys arrested him and took him from West Karana back to Qeynos. Meanwhile the antidote was derived from something found in Mordavin's possession and used in the healing ritual. I don't remember it very well just that there were fire works in the sky during the cleansing.

You can read part of this in the text for the fourth stage of the Qeynos Badge quests. BTW it says that Mordavin was put to death for his crime, so if we run into him he better be undead or Vegalys has some explaining to do.

Garowen
09-30-2004, 07:51 PM
can we say Jale Phlintoes anyone? Hmmm... and my prediction that all our faction with the unkempt druids was reset so we could do a quest with them is coming true? /shock /awe, wow who'da thought. :grin:

Great job figuring out this step!! :clap:

Banbin
09-30-2004, 08:06 PM
Jale doesn't do anything. Tried hailing using keywords and handing him the thing.

Scirocco
09-30-2004, 08:14 PM
None of the unkempt in RM will respond, same as Jale and the hermit.

gumpy
09-30-2004, 08:17 PM
anyone tried checking if brettik the unkempt(the guy in postorms) will take the new thing we got from Niera?

Bruddarr
09-30-2004, 08:22 PM
Anyone try the Great Bear again now? and see if he talks, since we are supposed to be looking for the unkempt.....

Wyre Wintermute
09-30-2004, 08:25 PM
a farmer says 'Troubling times have befallen us. The threefold curse
of [Bertoxxulous] has been unleashed upon our lands. Our crops are failing and I simply dont know what we will do. We may be a simple people but many rely on the food which we grow. I fear for our future.
a farmer says 'The followers of Bertoxxulous wanted revenge for the execution of Mordavin Telase, one of their high ranking priests. The Bloodsabres, allied with the Dark Reflection, summoned the power of Bertoxxulous releasing upon our lands a threefold [plague].
a farmer says 'Many animals have become infected with [rabies]. A sickly green [mist] hangs in the air and [swarms] of omnivorous beetles, the likes of which we have never seen are eating everything in their paths.
a farmer says 'Be very careful that you are not bitten by a rabid animal or you may become infected with the disease yourself. If you are infected you will need to seek a priest for a cure or hope your body is strong enough to weather the course of the disease. Many who ignore its effects often find they become too weak and sickly to carry on.
a farmer says 'When Karana sends his blessed rains, the terrible mist that hangs in the air is washed onto our crops. This seems to be causing them to slowly die and wither away. Karana's blessing has been corrupted and has become a curse.
a farmer says 'As if the mist and the rabies were not enough, terrifying swarms of beetles are rampaging across the lands and eating everything in their path. What little is left of our crops are destroyed by these insects. If you see the swarm approaching, it is best to stay well out of their way. Though small, Ive seen them reduce a man to bones in mere seconds.

Found at http://www2.trifocus.net/~scruffy/
everyone deserves thier own credit

Kryttos Arcadia
09-30-2004, 08:26 PM
nm

Vulash
09-30-2004, 09:01 PM
A lot of people in the Severwide chat were having Problems and so were a few people that I have watched, so here is what I have found out while watching 5 people (including myself) complete this part.

* Make one Hotkey with a 2 second pause in between lines.

* Target yourself while saying these lines (when this was done I got the emote everytime)

* Make sure to target the abandoned heretic pet to say "I am on the job".

* Reset time on this event is instant. I saw 5 people do this event, one right after another. When the Skellys get back to give the person in front of you the scroll, step up and start right into the Text prompts, not the song (after Pet leaves if he is there). As long as the person in front of you did the event correctly you can start as soon as the pet leaves and the skellys get back to work. After text prompts equip the Pick and start the Macro.

****Some people are losing their soulstones when moving to the part in Ferrott....a GM on Sol Ro Server even told one person that it was bugged. So be careful.

Hope this helps some of you having trouble

Brigham Fancylad
Sol Ro
66 Druid

kithkin
09-30-2004, 09:09 PM
Yes, well aware of the bug, I have the mob spawned. I thought he had despawned, but he is in fact still following me around. unfortunately, when I get to the "show it" phrase he never gives me the rune.... Not sure whether or not to tell people to even try the combine.

And send that GM to Ayro and have him give me the Disease Rune since it's bugged =(.

drithius
09-30-2004, 09:21 PM
You say, 'who are you'

compelled spirit says 'You don't even know who I am? You summon me back here and you don't even know me? There's no way I'll. . .' The voice wavers as it struggles to deny an answer to your question. The struggle is short, however, and he continues. 'Gah! Fine, my name is Sanmuel Gingerfly of Qeynos.'

You say, 'what disease have you spread?'

compelled spirit says 'What do you want to know about disease? I'm kind of an expert. I know something about a great plague that you will soon die from! I helped create it!'

You say, 'what plague?'

compelled spirit says 'I know that it is a special plague, designed by. . .' again he tries to resist speaking, but the power of the gem that binds him into his own skull is too powerful, 'Azibelle and the Afflicted. Oh, she's gonna be mad at me. It will grow in the plants and be eaten by the animals. It won't show any signs for a long time. By then you'll all have eaten something with the plague! I got to deliver some of it to the first victims! I even remember one of the key runes. I. . .' again the hesitation, 'can [show it] to you if you want.'

You say, 'who is Azibelle and the Afflicted'

compelled spirit says 'I won't tell you!' The voice goes silent for a few moments and you fear that he might have broken the spell, but his voice returns. 'The Afflicted were created by Azibelle shortly after Mordavin was killed. When the Bloodsabers refused to protect Mordavin, she broke from them and took some key members with her. Glenfire is her right hand, a wicked woman with great power. The others she has brought in are Finnelzi Springworthy, Rendolf Deathbringer, Tehana Elsent and my brother, Bohab.'

You say, 'who is glenfire'

compelled spirit says 'She's the most powerful woman I've ever met. She's a dark elven shadowknight and if I were you I'd stay away from her. Nodoby has ever beat her in a fight and I don't think she tries her hardest.'

You say, 'Who is bohab'

compelled spirit says 'I won't tell you anything about him. He protected me as a child in the streets of Qeynos and I will not tell you anything about him.'

You say, 'who is Finnelzi Springworthy'

compelled spirit says 'Fin? He's a gnome. I suppose he's a powerful necromancer, but it's hard to fear someone that can't see over a low hedge. Besides, I always suspected that he had reservations about our work. I should have had his place in the coven!'

You say, 'who is Rendolf Deathbringer?'

compelled spirit says 'Heh. He used to be called Rendolf Shelton. He changed his name so he'd sound more like a shadowknight. He's a great fighter, though, so nobody teases him about it. I think he has a crush on Glenfire, but she'd rather kill a human than sleep with one.'

You say, 'who is Tehana Elsent?'

compelled spirit says 'Tehana is a true necromancer. She studies the lore and the spells. She knows everything there is to know about the undead. She has been studying diseases, but I don't think they really meant much to her except that they make people dead. She was the one to recreate some of Mordavin's work from his notes and repurposed it for Azibelle's needs. She's kind of excited about killing everyone. She is inspired by Azibelle and Glenfire and does most of the support work for the coven.'

Amazing, we're actually getting clues now...

Wyre Wintermute
09-30-2004, 09:22 PM
I've done all the steps but, it seems that other people may be able to 'leach' off of this.

I've spawned the Swamp Terror for a few other druids while the Raider is camped. Now, that gives you the head, you can get the books in PoK and get the note, you can get the soul stone from the madman in North Ro. Unknown as of yet about getting the scroll from the skele's without having completed everything.

So Really I'm wondering if someone can just loot the head, get the soul stone, notes, and scroll without having to get the raider/hider events. Will it work, or will there be a flag issue? Are there flags? Maybe when the epic is solved, this theory can be tested. I suggest that everyone do each part themselves until then but, it may be a way to help others in your guilds to bypass these steps.

V/R,
Wyre

Kryttos Arcadia
09-30-2004, 09:39 PM
ALl that lore.. and it doesnt tell us anything =p

Jakravdian
09-30-2004, 09:43 PM
the loots from the raider and hider events are required to get the first set of notes, so I doubt it can be done without those events, unless someone else does the event and lets you loot

Durew
09-30-2004, 09:52 PM
Anyone try going to the Karana's to search for the "coven_spawner" that was posted a bit back? Try saying all names to NPC's in the area?

Daggan
09-30-2004, 10:02 PM
Someone who does the event next ask the compelled spirit who mordavin is. Just to see what info he gives.

Geranon Morrowind
09-30-2004, 10:06 PM
Well its bugged here on Druzzil Ro server. I personally did the quest twice, and the skelletons got stuck outside on the wall. Then the skeletons started the quest on their own, and no one could do anything. Hopefully resetting it, I guess we'll find out after the 30 min is up.

Scirocco
09-30-2004, 10:11 PM
It didn't respond to Mordavin.

Gamli
09-30-2004, 10:12 PM
Well its bugged here on Druzzil Ro server. I personally did the quest twice, and the skelletons got stuck outside on the wall. Then the skeletons started the quest on their own, and no one could do anything. Hopefully resetting it, I guess we'll find out after the 30 min is up.

something like this happened on seventh aswell, eventually the skeletons despawned, but pet kept walking round and complaining

Scirocco
09-30-2004, 10:13 PM
So Really I'm wondering if someone can just loot the head, get the soul stone, notes, and scroll without having to get the raider/hider events. Will it work, or will there be a flag issue?


You can't. What you loot is a head, not a container. You have to get the cloth from Niera to wrap the head in and give it back to her to get the container mangled head back. And you don't get the wrapping cloth except as part of her response to you giving her the bag with the maiden hair combined in it. And you don't get THAT container unless you do the initial forage, and all the maiden's hair collecting after that as well.

drithius
09-30-2004, 10:21 PM
found this via alla.....

Here is a segment I stole from Banegrivms MASSIVE Everquest Lore archive, called the Codex of War. This guy REALLY knows his lore, and works now for Brad McQuaid on EQ-RPG. (Writes the stuff!)
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The Coming of the Plaguebringer (GM Event via Patches)
I still remember that day as if it has been yesterday. I had heard the tells of some rude individuals that had appeared outside the gates of Qeynos and near the square harassing passers by. Of course I did not think much of it, save those I helped to defend.

But no less then a few week later was when their camps grew and these rude individuals now became replaced by ones much more Loathsome to behold. These Loathsome individuals spread their camps out into the hills of Qeynos, where they awaited and continued with their dark rites. Within their midst could be found those of the profession of rogues, priests, wizards, and warriors.

The wizards carried in their possession unknown runes and a strange tome of research. The priests would occasionally be found to carry a weapon called a Runed Branding Iron.

Within the hands of the warriors were found strange swords that seemed as if to denote rank. The blades in order were Initiate's Blade, Adept's Blade, and Befouled Longsword.

Thieves from these camps were said to have been spotted by the locals sneaking into the Temple of Life within the shadow of night to steal the scrolls from within.

The keeper of the Lion's Mane Tavern, Earron Huntlan, wrote to Antonius Bayle complaining of these individuals. Eventually, he sent the Magistrate, Vegalys Keldrane, to investigate the matter. Vegalys sought proof that these now Loathsome Individuals were up to no good and began to summon the aid of many adventurers.

It was then that Al'Kabor discovered a strange diary page, and determined the symbol on the page to be part of an incantation to summon Bertoxxulous himself. An ancient rite long past from Dartain and the heretics that had founded old Paineel, which now lays consumed within the darkness of The Hole. Similar pages were found laying around Qeynos and Qeynos Hills.

Azibelle Spavin the witch of Qeynos, was reported to meet with shady characters and whisper conversations in the Lion's Mane Tavern. Tylman Lushfeld, a bard in love with Azibelle, would sit in the bar during the day, pining for Azibelle. She would show up at night.

There are some that say in hushed whispers that long ago Azibelle Spavin stood at a crossroads and sold her soul to the Plaguebringer on a dark and stormy night, when lost souls peered about from the world beyond.

Bandit runners carrying pieces of Marble and Enchanted Clay, and some strange paint were discovered in and around Qeynos as well. Some of these were Gnolls. They occasionally were found to carry a Brooch of Sw'Vaye (proof of allegiance to Rykonis Sw'Vaye, who Antonius Bayle had banished from Qeynos) from amidst their possessions.

The scroll thief (who spawned every night at 11pm game time), carried a scroll, which could be turned into Athrin Tashir in the Tavern, who in turn gave a reward in the semblance of a ring (and XP as well).

The pages found from the ground (the primary numbered ones) combined with the right rune (from the loathsomes) in the new research book (also from the loathsomes) returned an incantation (3 different types). These could be turned into Vegalys Keldrane at the wall atop the gate of Qeynos, as proof of the misdoings of these Loathsome Individuals. Adventurers were rewarded with a random piece of Rubicite armor (no breastplate).

The Runed Branding Irons could be turned in as well to the local Magistrate; same reward.

After about two weeks, the Loathsome Individuals fled, along with the Thief and all other related individuals. It was then announced that their leader, Mordavin Telase, had been captured.
The Trial of Mordavin Telase then came to pass. It was revealed that he intended on unleashing a plague on the entire Kingdom of Qeynos (Qeynos, Karana Plains, and Surefall Glade) that would slay all those who dwelled within the Kingdom's borders. (GM Event)

The Scrolls were being stolen to research a Rune which would protect the Bloodsabres and their allied from the coming plague. That rune was found to match the rune on the Runed Branding Iron. The incantations were discovered to be part of an ancient rite to summon Bertoxxulous himself. Only three of the four parts of the incantation were ever found. Woe and despair be to the bringer of the fourth rune that would doom us all to pestilence and decay.

Telase and the Bloodsabres had been building a Temple to Bertoxxulous in the Qeynos sewers. Hence the paint, marble, and clay. The workload proved too much for him, so he enlisted the help of Rykonis Sw'Vaye. Rykonis Sw'Vaye in turn hired the gnolls to help in the tasks at hand.

Mordavin managed to escape at his trial, and the hunt was on. He was eventually found in the western Karanas heading towards an encampment of sorts. He was apprehended by a band of adventurers and imprisoned within the dungeons of Qeynos. (GM Event)

The Trial of Mordavin Telase (from the EverQuest website) (found at: http://www.1stfistoflight.com/~fol/public_html/codex/lore/mordavintelase.htm )
An account of the trial, by a witness of the court.

Have bolded a few points of interest, but there's a lot here we should check into.

Geranon Morrowind
09-30-2004, 10:52 PM
Banegrivm's a friend of mine actually, before he quite eq, he was one of the few people that went digging for lore all over the place. He's always had quite the collection, an amazing guy. Didnt realize he was working for Brad these days though.

Wyre Wintermute
09-30-2004, 11:08 PM
So as not to spam the forum with just lore, here are the links:

http://bhur.silverwordz.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=135

http://bhur.silverwordz.com/sections.php?op=printpage&artid=135

They contian the same info, one is golden on black, the other is black on white.
(these lore items aren't directly related to the quest, just may add a bit of focus/history to what the Dev's have in store for us)
V/R,
Wyre

sunpuppy
10-01-2004, 12:03 AM
Heh I knew that Crystal would be part of it...

Lot of people making asshole comments earlier in the thread just got red faces...

Vulash
10-01-2004, 12:07 AM
a lot of us are having problems with the Compelled spirit...have any of you that have dealt with GMs on this matter figured out what we are doing wrong?

-Brigham Sol Ro

Palidinaya
10-01-2004, 12:31 AM
Next step's found. Simple enough to type.

Go to PoJ, and charm "Great Bear". Turn in the notes you recieve from Niera after the skull combine. You get 2 seeds from him. Take seeds to Niera, and she hands you back one of the seeds, and also gives you a Mind Crystal

Taken from the "other" board....

Tappin
10-01-2004, 12:37 AM
I know that we have few clues as to where to look, but you have been wonderfully clever so far and we're relying on you to hunt them down.'


I took this as 'A real clue in the druid epic just wouldn't be appropriate'.

Tryon
10-01-2004, 12:41 AM
Man, that took a lot of guts to hand a charmed pet a quest item. No wonder this quest it taking so long. Granted, not long between that step and the one before, but the obcure leaps of faith needed are insane.

deezy
10-01-2004, 02:07 AM
Once you have the mind crystal, head over to south qeynos. There was a dark blue at 70 "A furtive figure" on track. When you're near him the mind crystal will begin to glow. The mob is a necromancer and hit for a max of 581.

He'll drop a hasty note (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=62851).

Credit goes to veeshan.Jena

GREAT JOB!!

Ikatsu
10-01-2004, 02:23 AM
Acording to lucy the note he drops is from Bohab.

lucy Raw item information screen.
Filename: EP2DRUBohabNote

That along with the other information from the previous post means we need to locate a few more people:

Glenfire She's a dark elven shadowknight (maybe in neriak somewhere)
Finnelzi Springworthy gnome necro (maybe in ak'anon)
Rendolf Deathbringer a shadowknight (maybe in freeport?)
Tehana Elsent necromancer (who knows)

MerlmanTM
10-01-2004, 02:37 AM
The hasty note says "It is time. Meet us at the ring at midnight as soon as you are able. We have something for you."

What ring??

Genievea
10-01-2004, 03:19 AM
Banegrivm's a friend of mine actually, before he quite eq, he was one of the few people that went digging for lore all over the place. He's always had quite the collection, an amazing guy. Didnt realize he was working for Brad these days though.

Wow this is amazing! I was in 1st Fist of Light when it started on the Solusek Ro Server and we moved to Driz Ro. Bane was an amazing writer with extrodinary talent. Im glad to see he is putting it to use.

Sorry I hijacked.

The hasty note says "It is time. Meet us at the ring at midnight as soon as you are able. We have something for you."

What ring??

The walk thru says:
A Hasty Note when opened says:

Quote:
It is time. Meet us at midnight at the ring as soon as you are able. We have something for you.



Head to South Karana, to the Druid ring at loc -6041,-3306 in the South East corner of the zone. Wait till 12 pm, some npc's should spawn

Nimchip
10-01-2004, 03:22 AM
The ring is in SK in the SE part of the zone. The mobs don't always pop and we have no details as of yet if it's soloable or what.

deezy
10-01-2004, 03:41 AM
The ring is in Southern Karana at -6075, -3330. Southeast of the hermit behind a hill.

The first time I entered SK with the note it did not spawn at midnight. I left for a little while to help my friend Dimorfia in Toxx. At 9 pm game time I ported back to Karana and ran all the way back over to the ring. At exactly midnight game time they appeared and began a conversation with each other.

None saw through invis. None were KoS.

At exactly 1 am game time they gated away.

deezy
10-01-2004, 03:55 AM
Finnelzi Springworthy says 'I can't believe that we're here waiting for that boy again. You know he should never have been given a spot in the coven, he's too unreliable.'

Finnetzi Springworthy mutters under his breath.

Glenfire Telzir glares at Finnelzi.

Rendolf Deathbringer says 'Haven't you heard? One of your Erudite cohorts in Paineel has already done it. Silly, if you ask me. Animating heads? What good is that?

Tehana Elsent says 'It doesn't matter if it is any use to you, fathead. It's a matter of being able to do it at all. We've always needed the majority of the body to get it animated properly. The ability to animate parts of the body might lead to some new avenue that we haven't thought of yet.'

Glenfire Telzir says 'In a few weeks none of that will matter.'

Tehana Elsent brightens up. 'That's true!'

Finnelzi Springworthy says 'About that. I know it's importaint to all of you, but. . .'

Glenfire Telzir says 'Shut up, Fin.'

Azibelle Spavin says 'That's long enough. Let's go. It's his fate if he doesn't show up soon.'
They gated away at this point.

Tappin
10-01-2004, 04:09 AM
I couldn't get the talking head to give me the diseased rune either. Some things I thought afterwards is that maybe you need to put away the animating scroll before saying 'show it', or that it mattered what you had targetted. Mostly, I think it's just bugged, since I never got any text in response to 'show it' or any permutation of it, but did get text for all of the other things listed.

calara
10-01-2004, 04:13 AM
it seems the ghost doesnt despond after the first person on each server does the quest successful, so until it is fixed it isnt your "ghost" Prolly better to just wait at this point for them to fix it and save you from recamping stuff

Kinyenya
10-01-2004, 04:27 AM
K i have done the skeletons now not once not twice but THREE times im sooo friggin bored. I have tried the pause twenty and the pause two and i dont get any of the white text messages. Other druids have zoned in and to some it looks ok and to others its missing a line so i dont know wtf is going on but im not happy.

Talias
10-01-2004, 04:33 AM
I know someone reading this knows this.... is there a spawn time set for the coven in SK??? 1st time I got there they were up.. gated.. 2nd, 3rd and 4th 12am that passed, there was nothing.. So someone.. if ya know please respond = )

Jhoric
10-01-2004, 04:35 AM
I had to do the skeleton part twice myself. You have to target yourself while spamming the messages, otherwise you won't get the messages. Figured that out the hard way, had the pet targeted whole time first time.

Faustina_Shinzon
10-01-2004, 04:37 AM
Well, I lost my soul stone on MT. You'd think after this wild goose chase they have sent us on, it would not be bugged. I really don't feel like having to camp the madman again, so hopefully they will answer my petition. At least I am done singing though. That's worse than camping the madman :)

Anyway, overall, I have to agree, we got a great storey line for our quest. A little odd and obscure in some points, but still great. They dug deep into lore which I really like :) I can't wait to see how it all plays out, whether I am first on my server or any server doesn't matter. I just want to see the end of it :)

Kinyenya
10-01-2004, 04:47 AM
DOH, thanks Jhoric thats one tidbit of information they should have included in the walkthrough lol im not on 9 hours this mob, heheh its making up for all the fast kills i done before rofl.

uegolas
10-01-2004, 05:00 AM
Hope people who have lost epic items are more lucky than me. This is what i was told by a GM when a npc ate my soulstone and mangled head...

http://www.andersblarsen.dk/GMchat.jpg

:burn:

Namic
10-01-2004, 05:30 AM
after getting hasty note stand at SK ring loc you have to stand at is -6100 -3300 <i found out this part alone some oen else confirmed since game times are off his midnight came first> you kill the mobs that spawn teh red one will depop loot the crystals then go to westfreeport and give them to shana liskia in WFP she is in the enchanter guild you recive a 6 slot bag and text <dont have it off hand will try to post it later>

-Namic of 7th hammer

Jhoric
10-01-2004, 06:06 AM
When I went to Feerrott (which was shortly after Tappin), I saw the ghost spamming the message of "compelled spirit screams as his essences is forced back into the world of the living. 'What is this? Where am I? Who are you? What do you want from me?" before I did my combine.

Then I did the combine because I figured that the ghost would become tangible when the combine is done. At some point it is targetable, but not for long it seems.

Anyways, is the ghost supposed to be spamming the message i quoted above before you do the combine? Is the message triggered by the pressense of the soul stone and animating heads or was it spamming the message simply because the person before me had it bugged and the ghost was still spamming it from his combine?

If the ghost gives the message only after you do the combine then I suggest not doing the combine if you are already hearing the ghost spam the message.

Sorry if that was confusing : P

Edit - Upon camping madman after the first bugged ghost in Feerrott, I got another soul stone, and went back to Feerrott. The compelled spirit was not spamming his message this time until after I had done the combine. This was a little more than 2 hours after last attempt, so the timer had been reset fully. Nobody else had done the event. I go through dialogue and still spirit is bugged. I'm not attempting this part again until it's fixed.

Jhoric
10-01-2004, 06:33 AM
Friday Oct 1, 6:30 am est

Systemwide_message:

Greetings Norrathians! The following zones will be coming down for a brief update. Bloodfields, Dranik, Dulak's Harbor, Harbingers, Oasis, Ocean of Tears, Plane of Justice, Plane of Knowledge, Proving Grounds, Steamfont, Wall of Slaughter.

Orolmy the Fire Caller
10-01-2004, 06:47 AM
Ok, just got finished killing the Coven:

After killing the Furtive Figure, I ran straight to South Karana and at dead on 12:00am (08:50 GMT) gametime, the Coven spawned, I sat and listened to them, then they despawned.

The next 72 minutes goes by, and at 12:00 the coven failed to respawn, so I went back to Qeynos and re-killed the Furtive Figure again, he didn't have the note on him this time, however I still had my note on me from the first kill, so that could explain why.

I ran back to SK and waited for the next 12:00, at which point they spawned.. Coincidence perhaps, or just the fact that it's 140 minutes since they despawned, I dunno.

I botted a 14K tank with me and pulled the coven, snared/rooted them away from each other, and set the tank on one, while I let the pets they had summoned die to my damage shield.

They hit pretty quick at 408 max hit, and they have a fair bit of HP each too, each one dropped a Crystal Fragment (ID 62852).

No other emotes or text given on death.

However, just found this in my log:
[Fri Oct 01 11:11:22 2004] Azibelle Spavin says 'Rendolf, you and the others deal with this and come to us when you are finished.'
[Fri Oct 01 11:11:22 2004] Glenfire Telzir begins to cast the gate spell.
[Fri Oct 01 11:11:22 2004] Glenfire Telzir begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Oct 01 11:11:22 2004] Azibelle Spavin begins to cast the gate spell.
[Fri Oct 01 11:11:22 2004] Azibelle Spavin begins to cast a spell.

There were two untargettable members of the coven that vanished when I engaged, guess this explains that, so now to find where they went, and what to do with the crystals.

Niera doesn't want them.

Bruddarr
10-01-2004, 07:30 AM
we must be nearing the end of this by now......but the lack of any oow zone in our epic seems odd. Maybe we should be looking there next?

Scirocco
10-01-2004, 07:36 AM
The fugitive is a caster (I resisted Greater Immob and Insid Retrogression), and hit me max for 583 (true max may be a bit more).

Sasner
10-01-2004, 07:47 AM
Upon camping madman after the first bugged ghost in Feerrott, I got another soul stone, and went back to Feerrott. The compelled spirit was not spamming his message this time until after I had done the combine. This was a little more than 2 hours after last attempt, so the timer had been reset fully. Nobody else had done the event. I go through dialogue and still spirit is bugged. I'm not attempting this part again until it's fixed.

on povar he was up last night, (1am-3am at least) and was still up this morning at 7:30am, so he isnt despawning at all.

Jhoric
10-01-2004, 08:23 AM
Aye, it seemed at first that it wasn't up when I went there second time, but it was. So, it isn't despawning. Wish they would fix sometime sooner than Wednesday.

Orolmy the Fire Caller
10-01-2004, 08:31 AM
we must be nearing the end of this by now......but the lack of any oow zone in our epic seems odd. Maybe we should be looking there next?
And as if on cue..

Once you've gotten the crystals go to West Freeport and visit Shana Liskia and give them to her for:
Well these certainly are interesting. You say that there might be more of them on those necromancers that escaped? Well here, take this. Find all of them and place them into this bag to keep them safe. Then bring them all to me and I'll examine them more closely. I can tell you that they are similar to the Mind Crystal, but appear to have different magical properties. I have never seen anything like them and I suspect that they are not from Norrath.

She hands you Small Padded Bag (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=62853) A six slot bag and the three crystals back.

Now head over to Harbingers Spire (which is where someone said the other "coven spawner" was) and go into the 3rd room on the left as you zone in, it has 3 Dragorns in it which are KOS, and Azibelle Spavin and Glenfire Telzir both RED cons to lvl 70, who are non-KOS.

Cleared the room of the dragorns and engaged with just my warrior and myself, being Necros they cast Pyrocuror and Boil Blood, in defensive mode, Azibelle hit for max 379, whilst Glenfire hit me max for 914, both HT'd.

Stumpydru
10-01-2004, 08:38 AM
How To: The Tox Skellies

Follow the instruction listed in the walkthru but here is how to get it to work.

1) When you click the Right Skelleton and say you script to get the pick make sure you equip it (that's in the walkthru). I used Hotkeys for each script since there are alot ot other druids there ready for you to mess up (on Torv server the others druids were very helpful/patient with each other, good job guys)

2) Start singing for 30 mins. The key here as posted in the thread is the /pause 20 commands between the says and at the end of the song. TO HEAR THE ECHO YOU MUST TARGET YOURSELF!!!! (that is the main key)

3) When the Pet guy comes up (he does it 5 or 6 times during the 30 mins) and ask who you are YOU MUST TARGET THE PET GUY AND SAY THE "I AM ON THE JOB" script. Once you say that to him target yourself and start singing again.

If you do the above with the walkthrough you will not have any issues with getting the item. Now there is a bug in the pathing of the skelleton you original talked to and he may walk into the wall which will screw up your quest.

If your quest gets screwed up do to the pathing do a /who all gm and if there is a GM/guide online send him a DIRECT TELL, stating you are having and issue with a Epic mob stuck in the wall. The key there is be polite to them and they may come help you if there not busy. Make sure to thank them if they come help you without the petition. Remember Guides are just regular players like us.

Last night I was doing my Tox quest and the skelleton got stuck and when I looked for a GM for help, I asked nicely and 2 guides showed up in less than 2 mins. I kept singing until the event said I failed cause of the skeleton being stuck in the wall. After explaing to the guides how and waht is suppose to happen in the quest they retrigger the event and I had to sing for another 30 mins (which was fine with me since I needed the piece and it beat waiting 2 hrs). At that time a 3rd guide showed up and they followed the skeeletons and watched there paths during my 30 mins. After 30 mins the right skeelleton actually walked up and gave me the item (which was great). After that I was talking to the Guide and told him it must be a random issue and he agreed since hedid see my original skelleton over my the wall.

Once I was done successfully, the next druid stepped up and triggered the quest as stated above. The GMs sat there for another 30 mins so they could watch to see if the pathing was going to get screwed up. I logged before the next druid completed the quest.

Thanks Tash, Blump, Tenyu for helping out with the GMs and waiting patiently for us to work the issue out with the GMs.

Ajjantis
10-01-2004, 08:42 AM
Today the madman was up so i thought i could try the feerot combine and check if its bugged for me. Looks like its true, if anyone on ur server did the script you will have to wait untill next patch. I lost my soul stone but got it back after 20 minuts. Maybe i will try another combine when the madman is up again in two hours.

Jhoric
10-01-2004, 09:02 AM
I have a theory but I don't wish to camp madman for a 4th time. Since we still have the alligator charm, maybe try doing terror again, and then when it's dead, try the combine for spirit.

Kulean
10-01-2004, 09:13 AM
/wave Deezy

Mendan
10-01-2004, 09:32 AM
So any info on what Azibelle and Glenfire in Harbringer's Spire drop?

Orolmy the Fire Caller
10-01-2004, 09:33 AM
New items to be added to database:

Bohab's Crystal Fragment (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=0062886)
Azibelle's Crystal Fragment (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=0062887)
Glenfire's Crystal Fragment (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=0062888)
Full Padded Bag (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=0062854)
Bowl of Foul-smelling Liquid (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=0062855)

Levia
10-01-2004, 09:33 AM
Nice how I see in the other thread a GM wouldn't return his Soul stone so he can try it again when it's fixed... so now we gotta camp that damn2 hr spawn AND compete with a .. what 30 hour spawn time mob? Wtf I think I'd rather get people together and go fight something how utterly rediculous

Kulean
10-01-2004, 09:40 AM
AND compete with a .. what 30 hour spawn time mob?


Last I heard, the respawn on the Great Bear was still unconfirmed.

Knobbin
10-01-2004, 09:47 AM
Tried the FM goblin quest.....grrrrrrrrrrr. I was only able to catch one Hider and pffttt of course wrong one. Should I stand at the posted loc of -3097, 472 and just wait for hiders? I couldn't chase them down. Now have to start over to get the disguise sighhhhh.

More tactics posted would be really helpful if someone did this solo.

And can you fix the post about the green body paint, there is also a post there that says green FACE paint, they are one and the same correct?

Nobody has any further input on this or is there another forum I don't know about.

Levia
10-01-2004, 09:50 AM
last I heard from the people who have done it it was something like 30 hours... guess we won't know until next wednesday if it is or not =P

froni
10-01-2004, 09:59 AM
Since many people have killed the Azibelle Spavin in the Qeynos Aqueducts, just who is the new Azibelle Spavin in S.Karana and Harbinger's? Seems she should be dead if you take her head off and give it to Vegalys.

Oh well.

Eagerly awaiting seeing the last of the story. Great job folks!

LegoleafMT
10-01-2004, 10:06 AM
Seems obvious, Froni. She got a rez! :D

The devs are going to get in trouble when someone finds out they put clues that we can actually follow in our quest. ;)

Gamli
10-01-2004, 10:27 AM
could anyone who have done the coven part post some info about how tough they are?
harmonyable & soloable? summons? or do i need a full group over there?

Talias
10-01-2004, 11:02 AM
For the first coven, I had druid (myself) cleric and a shadowknight who zoned in after I aggroed.. You must aggro them before 1am or they gate out... There are 5 mobs and 3 pets.. 2 of the NPCs are not targetable... once you engage the 2 will gate out.. They hit for around 500, can be rooted and snared, they do not summon... Snare one and they will all come running, have someone else root em for you if need be, get snare on em.. and pick em off one by one.. They are necros and sk's I believe..

the Harbringer coven I had myself, shaman, shadowknight and a cleric, the Shadowknight split them, dont believe they summon, cant be snared and rooted, one hits for 900ish one for 1k or so...

Wyre Wintermute
10-01-2004, 11:15 AM
"It needs to be a liquid of powder" - Liquified earth?

"you'll need a stabilizer, something to help the mixture and the new material to remain stable. This influences the kind of attunement that the crystal takes on during the process. It should be something from nature if you want the result to suit your tastes." - Emerald moss?

Don't know for sure, just tossing out ideas

Jhoric
10-01-2004, 11:29 AM
Tested out spawning Terror to see if that will despawn spirit, and unfortunately, nope.

Logilitie
10-01-2004, 11:42 AM
BTW: THE EPIC IS BUGGED ON THE FEERROTT COMBINE!!!!!!!!!!!! DO NOT COMBINE UNLESS YOU'RE TOTALLY SURE THAT THE SPIRIT IS NOT UP AND IF YOU ARE WILLING TO TRY IT YOU WILL RISK YOUR SOULSTONE. GM'S AREN'T HELPING BUT THEY HAVE SAID IT WILL BE FIXED ON WEDNESDAY'S PATCH\

is there a work around? or once i'm done singing i'm just done until wednesday? Nimchip is on my server and sounds like he's already done the animating head part , so i assume i will not be able to do it, without losing my soulstone. how can i tell is spirit is up? just the emotes?

I definately don't wanna do the madman part again.. already had noobs screw me up twce before i got left alone to complete it .. sheesh.

who would think that a 69 druid would need 'help' with a madman???
/puzzle

Vilayet
10-01-2004, 11:53 AM
Liquefied Earth is a PoEarth drop. Although it fits the description perfectly, being an Elemental planar drop, kinda doubt its for this quest. On the other hand, it is tradeable so who knows...

Emerald Moss is probably one of the two items, makes sense and falls in line numberwise (62856)

Banbin
10-01-2004, 12:01 PM
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=21705

It's droppable.

The necromancers had a PoE drop also.

Banbin
10-01-2004, 12:04 PM
Where's the list of Lucy items being updated at? Thanks in advance.

Vilayet
10-01-2004, 12:10 PM
--Speculation--

Liquefied Earth + Emerald Moss + Mind Crystal in the Bowl of Foul Smelling Liquid = item # 62857 ??

This new item, the Living Brambles Seed and the Aerated Pot stuff somehow fit together...

Chenier
10-01-2004, 12:13 PM
Man, I hope it's not Liq Earth....stuff's rare enough.

On the other hand, being my guild's tradeskill mistress, if it is liq earth, I think I have enough for all the druids in my guild. ^^

Gamli
10-01-2004, 12:26 PM
Liquefied Earth is a PoEarth drop. Although it fits the description perfectly, being an Elemental planar drop, kinda doubt its for this quest. On the other hand, it is tradeable so who knows...


necro 1.5 epic requires a poearth drop which is tradeable
some clay thingy

Vilayet
10-01-2004, 12:30 PM
Honestly never paid attention to the drop rate of Liquefied Earth. I hope that if this is the item we need here it doesn't turn into a Jade Reaver-esque chokepoint...

Kryttos Arcadia
10-01-2004, 12:38 PM
http://thedruidsgrove.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9665

Pradera D`Estrellas
10-01-2004, 01:04 PM
The same thing with the spirit was happening on Brell as well last night. We were lined up to do the skeleton event and whenever one person finished theirs, they would head over to Feerrott to do their combine. I believe, out of around 7 people, only 2 people were able to actually complete their combine. It seems odd but the first person in line failed their combine and the second one succeeded.

I hope they get this fixed soon :(

Thanks so much for all your hard work! Awesome job so far by everyone.

Pradera

Garowen
10-01-2004, 01:08 PM
My guess is the Spirit in Feerott has a respawn time on our epic, from when he will give out the rune again. like a 100 min timer, between tries. since the step before is 30 minutes, this causes at least every other, maybe more, people to fail. Just a guess.

Scirocco
10-01-2004, 01:23 PM
the Harbringer coven I had myself, shaman, shadowknight and a cleric, the Shadowknight split them, dont believe they summon, cant be snared and rooted, one hits for 900ish one for 1k or so...


The SK coven trio come with two pets. Just snare and root them all. Have some resists up, as they will cast lots of spells on you. Once you get them rooted, take out the two pets, and root dot them down.

The Harbinger coven duo didn't summon, and could be snared and rooted, although since they were red, they resisted a bit and broke root. Azi hit max for 989. The SK for a little more. Soloable with some luck and some work, but easy to get to, so bring a couple friends along. Don't back out into the hallway, or you will get adds.

Scirocco
10-01-2004, 01:27 PM
Azibelle Spavin the witch of Qeynos, was reported to meet with shady characters and whisper conversations in the Lion's Mane Tavern. Tylman Lushfeld, a bard in love with Azibelle, would sit in the bar during the day, pining for Azibelle. She would show up at night.


For those interested in internal consistency, guess where the Furtive Fugitive spawns who drops the Hasty Note? The Lion's Mane Tavern in SQ....:)

Scirocco
10-01-2004, 01:28 PM
After having killed the coven, I still have the mind crystal and hasty note. So once you get to the mind crystal stage, apparently you don't have to worry about backtracking too far.

Heeroot N`Run
10-01-2004, 02:17 PM
Went LD at 11pm game time and got back after midnight with no SK coven in sight, sigh. Waiting on midnight to roll back around :)

Debt
10-01-2004, 02:26 PM
Is there anything you can do to help the toxx skeleton event?

or do you just do it 100 times and hope he paths right on one?

Fizwick
10-01-2004, 02:53 PM
necro 1.5 epic requires a poearth drop which is tradeable
some clay thingy
The necro epic doesn't exactly require PoE access. Their drop -- while it does come uncommonly from PoE -- is also a rare drop from The Hole.

Vilayet
10-01-2004, 02:56 PM
I know that the Aerated Pot is used in the part of the quest if you don't have epic 1.0, but it seems there might be a relationship between these two items...

Aerated Pot - Lore: A thin pot made from a porous clay
Aerated Pot Shell - Lore: The outer shell of a two-layer pot for plants

Gamli
10-01-2004, 03:00 PM
The necro epic doesn't exactly require PoE access. Their drop -- while it does come uncommonly from PoE -- is also a rare drop from The Hole.

thanks for pointing that out. but i never said it required anything, i said its tradeable

kiirryn
10-01-2004, 03:10 PM
Don't know how to quote, but here is a copy/paste of some text from Nimchip's walkthrough:



Shana Liska takes the crystal fragments from the pouch. She applies a drop of liquid to it. The liquid turns the crystal white where it spreads. These small crystals are easier to work with than the Mind Crystal. They also differ from the Mind Crystal in that they are from the Plane of Discord. Take this mixture and find something to enhance its magical power and you just might be able to purify the Mind Crystal. I have no idea what that might be, but I know what it should be. You'll need two components. One will increase the power of the mixture, something with a lot of magical power. It needs to be a liquid of powder to integrate properly. And you'll need a stabilizer, something to help the mixture and the new material to remain stable. This influences the kind of attunement that the crystal takes on during the process. It should be something from nature if you want the result to suit your tastes. You'll have to find someone that knows of something about it among the druids for help on what to use.


So, what druids or someone amongst the druids have we talked to ???

kailysn
10-01-2004, 03:21 PM
It needs to be a liquid of powder to integrate properly.

This really feels like a typo to me. The following seem like the two most likely choices for proper spelling on this phrase:

liquid of power
liquid or powder

What do you guys think?

Logilitie
10-01-2004, 03:27 PM
i'm thinking it was supposed to be liquid OR powder.

maybe just the way i read it ..

Vilayet
10-01-2004, 03:31 PM
Kailysn --

I was thinking "of" is a typo as well...

Being that Shana's response is very poorly worded and hard to follow, it wouldn't be a shock if it was a typo.

Debt
10-01-2004, 03:34 PM
Another quick issue: pick seems to expire even though event is not yet over and the heretik ignores your pick

Debt
10-01-2004, 03:42 PM
Wow, this is weird... i got the scroll after only 15 minutes on my 4th try....
I changed my hotkey to be /pause 15 instead of /pause 20....

maybe its based off of how many times your voice echos?

Chenier
10-01-2004, 03:54 PM
Note reply from Devs about bug and KSing in the Hider Event here: http://thedruidsgrove.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9775

Aianya
10-01-2004, 04:01 PM
Are they looking into the Raider drop rate?

sceron-cs
10-01-2004, 04:01 PM
hmm has anyone tried the augment refining process on the stone?

Chenier
10-01-2004, 04:02 PM
Are they looking into the Raider drop rate?
AFAIK, Absor will be looking at finding a solution for KSing the Hider only. I don't know if anything else is on his radar about this particular event.

Logilitie
10-01-2004, 04:09 PM
they need to make our mobs UNTARGETABLE probably.

like 'a madman' in NRO, big headache since there are lots of folks there, and it seems they all wanna smack a madman on the way to LDoN adv, or just noobs leveling, or just 'help us out'.

the skellies in Toxx, anyone could come smack them into oblivion.. not good. *EDIT*ok so the skellies are safe
The Hiders.. half our mobs could be KS'd before we get a chance to finish doing what we need to do.

Talac
10-01-2004, 04:31 PM
The skeleton's in Toxx cannot be casted on nor attacked... I was going to pull the one stuck on the wall back towards the cave and Exodus but it said the spell would not take hold and attacking did nothing.

Gamli
10-01-2004, 04:44 PM
the skellies in Toxx, anyone could come smack them into oblivion.. not good.

no they cant be killed 'you spell dont take hold'

Gamli
10-01-2004, 04:47 PM
Another quick issue: pick seems to expire even though event is not yet over and the heretik ignores your pick

this happend to me too, 2 times actually.
for me, this happened when 1 of 2 skellies came back, and the other got stuck on bad pathing in the wall

this is a bug. petition or camp another respawn

Stormhaven
10-01-2004, 05:10 PM
<b>PLEASE POST BUG/PROBLEM ITEMS IN <A HREF="http://forums.thedruidsgrove.org/showthread.php?p=143267#post143267">THIS THREAD</A> INSTEAD. LETS LEAVE THIS THREAD JUST FOR DISCUSSION ON HOW TO OBTAIN THE EPIC.</B>

Thanks!

Vulash
10-01-2004, 05:58 PM
I noticed that the "unconfirmed" 30 hr spawn time for the Great Bear was taken out of the Walkthrough. Did we nail down the actual spawn time? Or did we at least find that it is less than 30hours?

-Brigham Fancylad
Sol Ro

Kryttos Arcadia
10-01-2004, 06:11 PM
its more like 6 hours.

karbacth
10-01-2004, 06:20 PM
has anyone thought of a celestial temper as the liquid of powder for the combine?

It is made of Blue Diamond Powder, so it could be the right thing.

Wolfee
10-01-2004, 07:01 PM
Taking quick second to thank all you guys for all the hard work. Also, I don't think that the Liquified earth is such a bad idea. But with the way things are going, its probably some far out item that we would never think of.

Scirocco
10-01-2004, 07:57 PM
/tell Gerael Woodone (in SFG) "What liquid?"

His response: "It is nothing more than a special elixir for plants only"

darklumina
10-01-2004, 08:03 PM
Why not mistletoe powder?

Kryttos Arcadia
10-01-2004, 08:16 PM
I tried Scirocco. its an old quest, and DNC

Scirocco
10-01-2004, 08:25 PM
Yeah, was just looking it up offline...

No druids at the HQ in RV, SFG, or LF seem to know anything...

Mendan
10-01-2004, 08:49 PM
A liquid of power could be an enchanter summoned vial of mana, just something to try in test combines. I would assume it would be a vial of purified mana, the highest level vial summonable.

Nimchip
10-01-2004, 08:53 PM
already tried i beleive. DNC on all.

darklumina
10-01-2004, 09:34 PM
purified mana + crystal + emerald moss DNC

froni
10-01-2004, 10:59 PM
Probably won't respond to me since I am not at the right point yet - but don't forget there are druids to talk to at most rings including in Misty Thicket and there are druids in Shadowhaven. Heck that chromodrac Felia in Skyfire is a druid and I think one of the dragons in WW is a druid too. Anyone try to talk with Tunare herself about the "liquid of powder"?

And just in case it isn't a typo - are there any sand drops that might fit?

Clayborn
10-01-2004, 11:03 PM
Shana Liska takes the crystal fragments from the pouch. She applies a drop of liquid to it. The liquid turns the crystal white where it spreads. These small crystals are easier to work with than the Mind Crystal. They also differ from the Mind Crystal in that they are from the Plane of Discord. Take this mixture and find something to enhance its magical power and you just might be able to purify the Mind Crystal. I have no idea what that might be, but I know what it should be. You'll need two components. One will increase the power of the mixture, something with a lot of magical power. It needs to be a liquid of powder to integrate properly. And you'll need a stabilizer, something to help the mixture and the new material to remain stable. This influences the kind of attunement that the crystal takes on during the process. It should be something from nature if you want the result to suit your tastes. You'll have to find someone that knows of something about it among the druids for help on what to use.


First time posting but always lurking nearby. Was just thinking that this sounds a lot like a Geomancer to me. Has anyone checked any of the Wayfarer camps for more info or possibly a druid in the NRO dungeons?

Clayborn Silverfang
Storm Warden of Tunare
Sun Clan of Warriors

JenaWillowfeather
10-01-2004, 11:31 PM
According to the Walkthrough, the Living Brambles Seed is returned with the Mind Crystal. If that's the case, I think jumping ahead to the Emerald Moss is a lil odd. Also, finding the "druid" that's supposed to tell us what's up should be the utmost of importance. As I stated on the Serverwide, I feel the "liquid of powder" will be a GoD or OoW drop. She states it would be highly magical, and thus far, the "highly magical" items have been from areas touched by Discord.

On second thought, I have a feeling that the "balancing item" will be grown - most likely from the Moss and Brambles along with other such items. That will be combined with the Mind Crystal and the other item...but now that I think about it, perhaps the Mind Crystal will be enhanced on it's own, then in another step after that we combine the two (Crystal and Staff, as seen in the Emu SS). *Sigh* I'm rambling again. >_<

Zryis
10-01-2004, 11:57 PM
Would that be a fletching skill to make a staff our of a Brambles Seed?

Onetree Tallbarque
10-02-2004, 02:25 AM
You'll have to find someone that knows of something about it among the druids for help on what to use.
Aren't the dragons in Wakening Lands and Dreadlands druids? They certainly have personalities and seem to be rather knowledgable. Trying to think outside the box.

Namic
10-02-2004, 02:29 AM
after turning bag in she says this so there isnt any confusing.. and id like to add u guys jackasses cuz u didnt give me credit for finding sk ring and who to turn the crap into so die kk thx la~

Shana Liskia takes the crystal fragments from the pouch. She applies a drop of liquid to it. The liquid turns the crystal white were it spreads. 'These small crystals are easier to work with that the Mind Crystal. They also differ from the Mind Crystal in that they are from the Plane of Discord. Take this mixture and find something to enchance its magical power and you justmight be able to purify the Mind Crystal. I have no idea what that might be, but i know what it should do. You'll need two componets. One will have to increase the power of the mixture, and something with a lot of magical power. it needs to be a liquid or powder to integrate properly. And you'll need a stabilizer, someting to help the mixture and the new material to remain stable. This influences the kind of attunement that the crystal takes on during the process. It should be something from nature if oyu want the results to suit your tastes. You'll have to find someone that knows something about it among the druids for help on what to use.

thats it word for word

-Namic of the 7th hammer

Fettin
10-02-2004, 05:03 AM
anyone try seeing the hermit in SK yet?

:robot:

Fettin
10-02-2004, 05:21 AM
good news guys, you no longer have to worry if the compelled spirit is up

the event in toxx is now bugged!!!!! spent over 2 hours with no response from them, skellies were able to be cast on, apparently someone on another server was having the same problem

grats soe on somehow breaking a working script

well apparently, it's working on some servers and down on others

:robot:

Kryttos Arcadia
10-02-2004, 05:55 AM
Greetings Norrathians, The following Zones will be brought down for a brief update across all servers. Butcherblock, Causeway, Feerrott, and Fungus Grove, This update will begin at 3:00AM PDT (-7GMT/UDT).

The estimated downtime is 30 minutes.


Looks like its still not fixed. Guess we wait for Wednesday

Jhoric
10-02-2004, 06:08 AM
Hmm, has anyone tried Rebecca Cabageleaf in FG? She's a druid and ties in well.

Nimchip
10-02-2004, 06:20 AM
Hmm, has anyone tried Rebecca Cabageleaf in FG? She's a druid and ties in well.


Yes

Druids in the followin zones have been tried

RM, SK, SFG, JP, ALL DRUID RINGS, PoK, PoStorms

Jhoric
10-02-2004, 06:21 AM
Just did the preemptive "who are you" spam to see if he was up or not after Feerrott came back up. He wasn't up so did combine and it spawned. However, he was still up after I did get my item from him and did my combine. So maybe he has a timer to despawn now?

I advise to spam who are you before you do combine to make sure it is up or not.

Whooty
10-02-2004, 06:26 AM
Spamming "who are you" doesn't work all the time either. I did the spam thing before I combined and got no reponse. Went ahead and did my combine, went through the script, and.... no rune and no soul stone. So it's back to N Ro for me.

Elaenka
10-02-2004, 07:42 AM
Just a minor point, but make sure you have yourself targeted when you ask "who are you" to see if the spirit is up prior to the combine, if you have something else targeted (or nothing) the spirit doesn't reply (seems to be like the voice echoing nicely bit in Toxx) I speak from experiance on this sadly. But the good bit is I finally (after 3 tries, and the corresponding loss of soul stones) got my diseased rune this morning after doing this correctly and the spirit wasn't already up.

Elaenka
One of the Good Guys from the Seventh Hammer....

Scirocco
10-02-2004, 07:59 AM
You also need to be visible to speak to the compelled spirit. Granted, moving around Fee while visible is apt to pick up some angry green mobs...

Ajjantis
10-02-2004, 08:02 AM
Since new people only read the last 2-3 posts i want to warn you, the swamp terror is now immun to snare, summons and hits for almost up to 800. Thanks to solusek.dharma for the new info.

Kinyenya
10-02-2004, 08:18 AM
Ok, im in the great bear room right now as we speak has anyone been able to ocnfirm spawn time. I noticed that the 30 hours spawn time was removed and can anyone confirm that i have to kill what is in this room to get him to spawn.

Kryttos Arcadia
10-02-2004, 08:21 AM
somewhere between 2 and 6 hours.

Kinyenya
10-02-2004, 08:24 AM
Do i need to kill themobs in this rooand this guy sitting in the middle of the two skeles kryttos, they allcon amiable.

Kinyenya
10-02-2004, 08:25 AM
oh and on a side note i went back to feerot again with my alligator charm and I was able to ensnare, root and dot him withought getting summoned so not sure if other servers are different than saryrn server.

Ajjantis
10-02-2004, 09:40 AM
oh and on a side note i went back to feerot again with my alligator charm and I was able to ensnare, root and dot him withought getting summoned so not sure if other servers are different than saryrn server.


Strange strange, that is a good question. The feerot update was on all servers tho, looks like they messed **** up again F! soe.

Kerrilea
10-02-2004, 09:43 AM
Greetings and well met! First time posting here and I must commend all the hard work everyone has put forth as well as the team work found throughout the servers!

Just now, I went to visit the PoJ Great Bear and tried every charm spell available and received the message, "This NPC cannot be charmed." When I hail him in any language, the text states, "Great Bear growls uncooperatively." No text with saying "unkempt" to him and again, the "uncooperatively" emote with "tribe of the dawn".

Other than the PoJ trials, I have spent little time in this zone but while thinking about why this mob was now uncharmable, I hailed the 2 NPCs in the room with the bear. All of my languages are max'd and I got the Arch priest Del`Maque to talk to me by using Elder Teir`Dal. He spoke of Najena and a crystal sphere. (I apologize as I did not save the text log for any of this.) The other NPC, Al`Corsalm reponded to Old Erudian. Something I noted in the text was, "Erud's new city needed magical channels, certain qualities of natural bedrock which conveyed that power innate to the earth." I am unsure if any of this is new text or from older quests or lore. However, I thought it might possibly tie in with the "liquid of power" commented on earlier in this thread.

In summary, I was wondering if anyone else has had the problem of the Great Bear being uncharmable, if I am doing something wrong, or if this part is now bugged?

Faustina_Shinzon
10-02-2004, 09:51 AM
Just a side note about Great Bear. After he hands you the seeds he will dispell 4 of your buffs (I believe it was 4) and go attack a guard. Just be ready to gate out right after you get your stuff if you don't feel like dealing with a guard or two coming to beat on you :)

Nimchip
10-02-2004, 10:43 AM
Greetings and well met! First time posting here and I must commend all the hard work everyone has put forth as well as the team work found throughout the servers!

Just now, I went to visit the PoJ Great Bear and tried every charm spell available and received the message, "This NPC cannot be charmed." When I hail him in any language, the text states, "Great Bear growls uncooperatively." No text with saying "unkempt" to him and again, the "uncooperatively" emote with "tribe of the dawn".

Other than the PoJ trials, I have spent little time in this zone but while thinking about why this mob was now uncharmable, I hailed the 2 NPCs in the room with the bear. All of my languages are max'd and I got the Arch priest Del`Maque to talk to me by using Elder Teir`Dal. He spoke of Najena and a crystal sphere. (I apologize as I did not save the text log for any of this.) The other NPC, Al`Corsalm reponded to Old Erudian. Something I noted in the text was, "Erud's new city needed magical channels, certain qualities of natural bedrock which conveyed that power innate to the earth." I am unsure if any of this is new text or from older quests or lore. However, I thought it might possibly tie in with the "liquid of power" commented on earlier in this thread.

In summary, I was wondering if anyone else has had the problem of the Great Bear being uncharmable, if I am doing something wrong, or if this part is now bugged?


You don't need those other NPCs
For walkthrough go : http://thedruidsgrove.org/forums/showthread.php?p=140730#post140730

The great bear not being charmable is kinda weird though. Probably is bugged. Kill him and let him repop again, maybe that will fix it.

Walene
10-02-2004, 11:16 AM
Does anyone know the respawn on the Furtive Figure?

Jhoric
10-02-2004, 11:20 AM
Seems to be about 2 hours, as does the bear.

katriona
10-02-2004, 11:32 AM
The great bear kept my notes and would not talk to me. He was charmed and I had everything done up until that time. I am not a happy camper right now. I sent a petition in and did a /report. Anyone have any ideas of why this happened so it does not happen to anyone else? :(

Jhoric
10-02-2004, 11:34 AM
Did you hail him first? Some mobs need to be hailed first in order to get the desire result.

Kinyenya
10-02-2004, 11:45 AM
is there a respawn time on coven in SK if prior druid screwed it up and they despawned been here now through TWO eq days and no spawn after previous druid blew it

Kinyenya
10-02-2004, 11:50 AM
confirmed: Respawn time on the great bear has been two hours on the last 6 druids on saryrn server and for the fugitive it has been 2 hours as well 6 druids in a row.

Jhoric
10-02-2004, 11:51 AM
Been through 4 in-game days now, trying all different kinds of sitting with or without invis, near or far. No luck so far, and I was the first one to attempt this since Ferrott fix. If someone has any information on how to do this successfully or if it is just random, would be appreciated.

Kinyenya
10-02-2004, 12:00 PM
Jhoric if you are talking about the Feerot combine for ghost first make sure he is not up just to be safe. Then do the combine at the very tip of it, you should see an emote saying something at that point carry out the required dialog. I done it thismorning 20minutes after the fix and i got the disease rune.

Jhoric
10-02-2004, 12:01 PM
Talking about SK coven event.

Kinyenya
10-02-2004, 12:18 PM
Jhoric I just found out a little itty bitty secret NOT POSTED. At midnight an invisble coven spawns around the druid ring or in u have to be close to him to TRIGGER the event. You cannot see him with see invis or anything. WOO HOO Ifigured out a part of this.!!

Walene
10-02-2004, 12:25 PM
So the new word is to sit inside the rings for the coven to spawn? We got to the rings at 8pm game time... stood on the hill and they where a no show =\ So can we are now sitting in the rings... will post back later if it works this time. Is there a respawn on how often this part can be done that we know of?

Nimchip
10-02-2004, 12:35 PM
Jhoric I just found out a little itty bitty secret NOT POSTED. At midnight an invisble coven spawns around the druid ring or in u have to be close to him to TRIGGER the event. You cannot see him with see invis or anything. WOO HOO Ifigured out a part of this.!!

horray for show eq!

Banbin
10-02-2004, 12:36 PM
A lot of fiction about the SK coven being posted.

It can be respawned every night. There is not a two hour timer.

The invisible coven that the above poster is found is from using third party programs and it just verifies that the event is up. The invisible coven is always up unless the actually coven is up.

The Harbrings Coven is on a timer however.

Banbin
10-02-2004, 12:37 PM
P.S. Do not stand near the druid ring. If you are within aggro range of the Coven they will not spawn. When the FF is killed is completely unrelated also.

KISS

Walene
10-02-2004, 12:47 PM
Any clue why they no show sometimes then? And what's the timer on the Harbringers Coven?

deezy
10-02-2004, 12:52 PM
P.S. Do not stand near the druid ring. If you are within aggro range of the Coven they will not spawn.
Not true, I stood right on top of the center pillar when they spawned both times. They were all non-KoS as well.

Scirocco
10-02-2004, 12:55 PM
Hail the charmed bear first. He should say ask what you want, and tell you that he would rip your head off if you weren't a druid.

Banbin
10-02-2004, 12:56 PM
Any clue why they no show sometimes then? And what's the timer on the Harbringers Coven?


2 hours.

Kinyenya
10-02-2004, 01:01 PM
Ok, cant really confirm or deny that the invisble NPC is really there since he cant be seen however at the two hour mark on another server a friend of mine tried what i suggested and got close to the ring and it triggerd. So this one is still a tossup cause someone else said that when they zoned into the zone for SK coven event it was up at midnight 12 am not 12 pm.

Nimchip
10-02-2004, 01:22 PM
Ok, cant really confirm or deny that the invisble NPC is really there since he cant be seen however at the two hour mark on another server a friend of mine tried what i suggested and got close to the ring and it triggerd. So this one is still a tossup cause someone else said that when they zoned into the zone for SK coven event it was up at midnight 12 am not 12 pm.

um, 12 am IS midnight...
12pm is NOON

Jhoric
10-02-2004, 01:24 PM
It's listed in the guide (or was) as 12 pm.

Gamli
10-02-2004, 01:43 PM
Here's little missing dialogue from Great Bear:

You say, 'Hail, Great Bear'
Great Bear growls at you. 'What do you want? Were you not, what is it you are called, druid? Were you not druid I would rip your head from your torso. What you want had better be important.
NOTE: He also responds to Tribe of the Dawn, and responds to Unkempt as well.

Give him the Niera’s Research Notes.

Great Bear looks at the paper you hand him. 'I can almost understand this writing. This is not a natural disease. I see that you understand the seed rituals, this is good.' The ursine waves his arms in a way that might indicate that he is casting a spell, though it looks little like the sort of spell casting you know. Two seeds appear in his hands. 'Good. I was not sure that I could grow these here. Take them. One is for your cause, one is for you.

Gamli
10-02-2004, 01:44 PM
You dont have to give any crystals to Shana Liskia in WFP. just target her and say 'crystal fragment', you'll get the bag & the text

Himegimi
10-02-2004, 01:49 PM
Does the 2 coven mob in Harbringer's Spire summons or no?

Lezek
10-02-2004, 02:00 PM
harbingers dont summon..however it might b a bit tough to solo due to the 3 dragorns that spawn inside the room where the coven spawns ..migth b even a named dragorn since the middle one is PHEr for a named there.


easy kills tho with 3 ppl ..prolyl even 2 ..had pally chanter and myself when i did it

Nimchip
10-02-2004, 02:01 PM
It's listed in the guide (or was) as 12 pm.

you guys should know better and actually open up the note and read what it says...

Nimchip
10-02-2004, 02:02 PM
Here's little missing dialogue from Great Bear:

You say, 'Hail, Great Bear'
Great Bear growls at you. 'What do you want? Were you not, what is it you are called, druid? Were you not druid I would rip your head from your torso. What you want had better be important.
NOTE: He also responds to Tribe of the Dawn, and responds to Unkempt as well.

Give him the Niera’s Research Notes.

Great Bear looks at the paper you hand him. 'I can almost understand this writing. This is not a natural disease. I see that you understand the seed rituals, this is good.' The ursine waves his arms in a way that might indicate that he is casting a spell, though it looks little like the sort of spell casting you know. Two seeds appear in his hands. 'Good. I was not sure that I could grow these here. Take them. One is for your cause, one is for you.


that's not missing from the walkthrough.... what do you mean?

Tappin
10-02-2004, 02:21 PM
Don't know if I'd recommend it, because it's a risk, but for the PoJ part, the bear spawned, I charmed, I hailed, and then another druid and I both turned in notes due to a misunderstanding. We both got the seeds.

Wolfee
10-02-2004, 02:26 PM
As far as the coven goes, I got mine last night. I picked up note at approx: 10pm game time. I wasn't maybe about 1/2 way to the coven spawn area in SK when it turned 12am. When I got to the ring, the coven was up.

Gamli
10-02-2004, 02:43 PM
that's not missing from the walkthrough.... what do you mean?

the response to the hail was missing when i posted.

Heeroot N`Run
10-02-2004, 02:46 PM
Have tried combining the mind crystal with purified water in every type of container I could think of, DNC on all attempts. I am still thinking that there is a subcombine for the mind crystal before combining it in the bowl with the emerald moss and the yet to be discovered 3rd item.

Gamli
10-02-2004, 04:22 PM
harbingers dont summon..however it might b a bit tough to solo due to the 3 dragorns that spawn inside the room where the coven spawns ..migth b even a named dragorn since the middle one is PHEr for a named there.

easy kills tho with 3 ppl ..prolyl even 2 ..had pally chanter and myself when i did it

the fight was very tough for us, we were 5 ppl and wiped eventually, before our bst could land a slow on any of them. we buffed up & cleared room again and was just gonna charge them again when they depopped. about 20 or so minutes after wipe.

i tried to zone out & run back in to see if i could repop them but no luck. gonna try again later tonight but just wanted to say in my experience it seemed pretty tough

Nimchip
10-02-2004, 04:41 PM
the response to the hail was missing when i posted.

you copy pasted that from the walkthrough and it was there ><

You say, 'Hail, Great Bear'
Great Bear growls at you. 'What do you want? Were you not, what is it you are called, druid? Were you not druid I would rip your head from your torso. What you want had better be important.
NOTE: He also responds to Tribe of the Dawn, and responds to Unkempt as well.


I added that note in bold so..... it was there ><

Himegimi
10-02-2004, 04:46 PM
About the crystal fragments. There's only 5 fragments for the bag or 6?

Annabella
10-02-2004, 04:48 PM
About the crystal fragments. There's only 5 fragments for the bag or 6?
6, Azibelle I think drops 2 of the named ones. So kill 5 mobs, loot 6 crystals.

Gamli
10-02-2004, 04:51 PM
you copy pasted that from the walkthrough and it was there ><



I added that note in bold so..... it was there ><

lol i guess your right. how that happened i dont know. must have been drunk

Leyda
10-02-2004, 05:06 PM
The skellie spawn in Toxx is borked on Ay Ro. They've been down for 12 hours now, and won't respawn.

GMs haven't responded for 2 hours. Another druid told me they will refuse to respond as they won't do anything.

I wish SoE was a person so I could strangle them.

Kinyenya
10-02-2004, 05:17 PM
YEs, hehe i know i put 12 am cuase thats what the note says and thats when they spawn whoever done the write up and up 12 pm just made a typo or was probably really tired. Remember they work hard on this.

kailysn
10-02-2004, 05:24 PM
Just confirmed that the Swamp Terror now does summon on the Mith Marr server. I was in Feerrott doing the combine when another druid was triggering him. Thankfully I was able to warn her so she was prepared to evac if necessary.

Dobson
10-02-2004, 05:40 PM
Bear breaks charm than attacks the guards so no need to worry about them chasing you down. If you egress you might mess up the event for others. The bear is supposed to die to reset the spawn. Saw in channel where one druid egressed befor bear died... next druid got this Creature uncharmable msg. If the guards do come for you egress after bear is dead :)

Mind Crystal Purification... Since Pure Rain Water Purified the seed from the Seed of Wrath event ... has anyone tried that yet?

Kryttos Arcadia
10-02-2004, 05:44 PM
yes, DNC

Ramos
10-02-2004, 06:05 PM
Just confirmed you can do multiple hand-ins of the Scroll to the Great Bear at the same time for seeds.

Ramos

Ramos
10-02-2004, 07:12 PM
fugitive spawned at p313 n90 in South Qeynos, at 1am game time.

Ramos

Gamli
10-02-2004, 08:21 PM
Can someone please try this for me, since i dont have the last items myself i cant try the combines. but do the following and try with the Washed Blasted Stone:

Forage Blasted Stone in Bloodfields
Item Lore: A rough stone of mixed material.

Go to Targen Stonefall in Nedaria's Landing

You say, 'Hail, Targen Stonefall'
Targen Stonefall says 'Hello there, Gamli. I hope you fare well in your travels. I've decided to settle in here, next to the warm fires of the smithy rather than visit the plane of discord again. It's nasty, but is certainly has some [interesting stones].'

You say, 'what interesting stones'
Targen Stonefall says 'Well, I've been hearing about stones that have inherent power, much like those that we've been calling augmentation stones. These are cruder and you'd have to talk to someone else about exactly how to work with those. I'm more of a geologist myself. I study the way earth and stone are formed. I think there's a lot we can learn about this place from the formation of the [native stones].'

You say, 'what native stones'
Targen Stonefall says 'Just about any of them, really. I've seen most of what can be found, but if you see anything interesting, please let me look at it. You never know what gems you might find! Best of luck to you, my friend.'

Give him Blasted Stone

Targen Stonefall looks carefully at the stone. He takes out a cloth and some liquid and rubs the stone thoroughly. 'Why do you waste my time, friend? This is a rock from Norrath. I suppose it's kind of you to bring it to me, you probably didn't know any better, but I can't do anything with this. Where did you find this?

You recieve Washed Blasted Stone
Item Lore: A rough stone of mixed material.

You say, 'bloodfields'
Targen Stonefall says 'Very interesting. I tell you what, I'll buy that stone from you if you want. How about a plat for it? No sense arguing, that's as much as I'll offer.'

Kryttos Arcadia
10-02-2004, 08:41 PM
DNC with just washed stone. trying something else.

Gamli
10-02-2004, 08:53 PM
ok thanks for trying that out kryttos

Kryttos Arcadia
10-02-2004, 08:54 PM
couldnt break it down. gonna try one more thing,

Kryttos Arcadia
10-02-2004, 09:01 PM
nothing, i hate this quest. Absor should be strung up and beaten with a rusty shovel =\

Quaras
10-02-2004, 09:06 PM
Ok Coven on BB is really just not popping. What have folks done that make it work successfully?

Dobson
10-02-2004, 09:09 PM
Maybe he will wash/cleanse the crystal for us will check that in the morning after work :)

Walene
10-02-2004, 09:20 PM
Coven still hasn't popped all day on Brell... I should I know... it's been between me and another druid there all day and nothign at all... advice please?

Nokken
10-02-2004, 09:41 PM
edit nm

Gamli
10-02-2004, 09:56 PM
just adding this as a note, i dont recommend doing it, if the stone even is related:

If you hand him Washed Blasted Stone:

Targen Stonefall says 'Thank you. This will make a nice trinket for my son's rock collection.'
You receive 1 platinum from Targen Stonefall.

Xytrani
10-02-2004, 09:57 PM
Another confirmation on great bear accepting multiple hand ins. 3 druids successfully received seeds from him simultaneously today on Xegony after Tappin's post was read.


On another note, Coven spawned for a druid immediately after, but didn't spawn one EQ day later. First druid had note, second did not. So not sure if this is simply a required step though it is not eused for hand in, or if coven is bugged seeing as how the one spawn is one of only 2 spawns for the entire day.

Walene
10-02-2004, 10:02 PM
I have the note and the other does too and we have been there all day long with no luck. I'm not sure if this is completely random or what.

Himegimi
10-02-2004, 10:03 PM
Anyone try Liquified Earth for the combine?

Gamli
10-02-2004, 10:08 PM
Anyone try Liquified Earth for the combine?

Liquified Earth + Mind Crystal + Emerald Moss = DNC

froni
10-02-2004, 10:18 PM
OK probably silly ideas for purifying the crystal but:
plain old pod of water?
purified water? (CE + 2 water flasks)
Pure Water or Pure Crystal from the original paladin epic

wish I could be more help than just making lots of guesses

Bolthiel
10-02-2004, 10:49 PM
The coven was not spawning for a druid on my server, but when i killed the guy in Qeynos and got the note and ran to South Karana, they spawned. I am thinking somehow that you have to get the note and be in SK on the same day for coven to spawn. :burn:

Now they are not spawning for me.

Can anyone verify this, or verify that they got note on another eq day and got coven to spawn anyways.

Geranon Morrowind
10-02-2004, 10:57 PM
Well for the Coven Members in South Karana, They were easily soloable by a 7.5k mana druid. I just nuke kited them all. (btw. pull them before they get their pets up and you dont have to worry about the pets).

For the Coven in Harbringers, I brought another druid and a necro, we cleared the hall, and then invised into the room, targeted one of the named, and then pulled them back into the hallway without agroing the adds. Took quite a bit to kill them, they have a lot of hit points, but duoable easily.

And I got pretty lucky, got the emerald moss as my first forage in Emerald Jungle. lol.

-Geranon Morrowind

Nilwean
10-02-2004, 11:05 PM
The coven was not spawning for a druid on my server, but when i killed the guy in Qeynos and got the note and ran to South Karana, they spawned. I am thinking somehow that you have to get the note and be in SK on the same day for coven to spawn. :burn:

Now they are not spawning for me.

Can anyone verify this, or verify that they got note on another eq day and got coven to spawn anyways.

I can verify that is not the case. Twice I killed the note mob and nothing spawned that night.

Bolthiel
10-02-2004, 11:09 PM
k thanks for confirming that, i wonder if coven is just random spawn.

If so :twak: SOE

Debt
10-02-2004, 11:32 PM
Has anyone figured out the Coven Respawn?
I've spent many EQ days in SK and no pop, but then some other druid gets it.

Edit: Ok so it goes around 12 Real Hours without a spawn then 2 spawns in back to back midnights (72min apart)... your guess is as good as mine.

Debt
10-02-2004, 11:35 PM
Oh and one quick observation to perhaps help the quest for our epic....
If you look at the picture and what the bear says to us, our epic is going to be our Living Brambles Seed Growing into some tree/staff and the Mind Crystal being the ornamentation...
So we might be looking for a fluid, pot, etc in which to grow the two items together.

Deveau
10-02-2004, 11:42 PM
It may have been a fluke but had been camping the Coven rotating with another druid. Hadnt spawned until he suggested Invis. Middun invised just before midnight and sure enough they popped. We stuck around to test the theory again and sure enough with both of us invised it popped again. Maybe just coincidence but worth a try.

Wyre Wintermute
10-03-2004, 12:00 AM
Might just be another coincidence but, have noticed a skip in the SK spawn. IE every 144 mins on spawn. I'm not sure exactly what may add into it, positon, items, etc.. tho I'll see if anything else seems to add into it while attempting the next combine assuming it isn't solved b/f I get the HS part done.

V/R,
Wyre

Zagamar
10-03-2004, 12:51 AM
Not sure if it's been said yet. But if you fail to kill the Raider and come back to kill him after you evac, etc. he despawns. Found that out the hard way tonight. Good luck on him.

Lanamien
10-03-2004, 01:06 AM
Not sure if it's been said yet. But if you fail to kill the Raider and come back to kill him after you evac, etc. he despawns. Found that out the hard way tonight. Good luck on him.Unless that's been changed, that isn't true. You may of just taken to long to get back to him.

Bolthiel
10-03-2004, 01:09 AM
Well after 8 hours in SK without coven spawning I am giving up. I have done everything in order and had every piece with me that i have collected so far. :confused: