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Kutter
09-21-2004, 11:54 AM
Well here's my experience with Tasks, which I think ARE a great idea, but need a LOT of work to make them feasible for SOLO play, which lets be honest, is what SoE have aimed this at. (well at least thats what all their advertising says.)

I started with my druid. Lvl 57, and firstly had a hell of a time finding any task masters. But heres a tip

USE CTRL + F to bring up the find box, taskmasters are listed on it!! Cant believe i didnt think of that before... Anyhoo.

The first 2 lots of task masters I spoke to didn't have anything for me. Not only that but they were SERIOUSLY spaced out around Norrath and even with the find option (which failed miserably in DL) it took both my friend and i (also druid but lvl 58) over an hour to actually find a master that could give us a task at our level.

So we finally get one and trudge off to SF to do it... Herin lies the problem. 1st part check out a place in SF (his was south, mine was north.. we split and did relevant parts) 2nd part (as so many here have already posted) INSIDE Veeshans!! and you CANT just sneak round the oposing side of the RED 'see invis' mobs to complete the task. I thought that myself, tried it and nearly died! that does not complete the task. Although if it DOES complete the task SoE need to look at how big the activation point is for a completed part. Because before I was picked up by the wurm that was there I had indeed run all over that initial part of the entrance.

Ok so.. VEESHAN'S PEAK!!! SOLO ????? Get a life Verant!

You need a key to get in, in the first place (which most people dont even bother with because of the extreme difficulty of the zone) which is not easy to get! Infact check this out incase you dont know...Part of the 'NEW' key quest..

You have spawned Suled Dar's Shade. It sees through invisibility and Shroud of Stealth, casts Infinite Mass and Shock Breath, hits for around 2400 and AE rampages.

Hmmm.. Anyone wanna try this kill solo? And not to mention the fact that you have to click 4 orbs in different locations to spawn the above!!

Like i said... Get a grip Verant.. This is not, by any stretch of the imagination a SOLO quest...

So after going back to get another quest, and realising it would be roughly the same, declining ALL and getting the same two back again, I gave up with my druid... Maybe the lower level ones are easier. TIME WASTED: OVER 2 HOURS...

Ok so I get my Necro out, level 38.. Not so easy to find a task master this time.. oh no! No porting ability here, just my own 2 feet and SoW potions.

Tried 3 different zones, 9 different taskmasters and over 2 hours of running around to actually find that SUPRISINGLY TO ME, SEEING AS MY DRUID IS 58 and NECRO 38.. THE 'SAME' GUY IN OT IS THE ONE TO GIVE ME A task!!!!! This REALLY annoyed me!

But the task was at least doable. I had to go to WW to talk with a guy (marked on the compass like LDoN entrances are) kill 10 Tigers (back in OT) 10 Tigresses Loot 4 meat, and give the meat to a guy also in OT... Did the task, got 30PP and 13% exp.. Now THATS more like it. Not only is it atainable, and SOLOABLE, but you get decent xp while you do it, and then more xp (13% isn't too bad in my opinion) when you finish... That however is as far as the SOLOABLE tasks went...

I thought I'd try a medium. This one was in Sol B, and was kill 10 Greater Kobalds. (not too hard I thought, as there right by the zone.) Not too hard? No, absolutely IMPOSSIBLE! I dont care who you are, how good you are at playing, or how much your twinked.. This IS NOT Soloable! Not even with a Necro... So I cheated.. Went and got buffed, including TEMP for me and the pet, went back and did the 10 Kobalds...

Next, Kill 10 Gnome miners in Sol A. Herin lies the problem...

Theres is no way ANY class can do this solo at 38. Like i said b4 with the kobalds I dont care who you are or how good a player you are. Numbers of Kobalds, Goblins and then the Miners themselves make this IMPOSSIBLE. But i'm getting ahead of myself....

Kill 10 Gnome Miners in Sol A... Ok so how many people know where the Miners are? I asked my guild, everyone in the zone itself, friends, Other guilds memebers, anyone i could think of.. No one knew where they were.

So who knows how big and confusing SOL A is? Especially if (like me) you have not ever fought there with any of your EQ characters.

And Who knows how difficult it would be to search that place for Miners, when EVERY mob agroes you, even the millions of green mobs that abound in the place...

Well enough ranting. I think from this you see my point here, These tasks are just not balanced, they really are a fantastic idea, and for me the sole reason I upgraded to OOW. But Verant need to work on them some more.

The bottom line for me is, I don't mind a challenge... But PLEASE make it actually possible to do Solo!! Oh and make them a little shorter too.. both of my tasks that I have completed (yes i did finally do the SOL A and B one, but only when i got a group together) have taken HOURS, not 30-90 minutes like they state.

Love the idea, but the execution is shoddy and doesn't account for differing levels of players( not meaning ingame level, but playing ability level). I'm not the greatest player in the world, but I know how to use my characters well enough to do some pretty tricky things. But these are not just a bit tricky, these are above and beyond 'tricky'. Imagine a druid trying to do the Sol A and Sol B quest solo.. I know my druid, and I know for a fact that the adds, and the fact that as a class druids cant tank for toffee, would make this even harder... As for other classes, well I dont know, but I'd hate to try this with a ranger...

Does the system even look at what class you are? Does it take into acount wether you can kite or not? Does it take into consideration that Some can root dot, others just have to bash it out? Does it take into acount that some can fear, some can 'sneak' and some can Mez? Simply NO...

You wanna keep charging us for your work Verant? Then do your job properly!
And dont even get me started on how many 'little' bugs I have noticed after just doing only a few tasks! (and yes, I know thats what the /bug report is for, and YES i have /bug'ed them...)

/Rant off,

Kutter.

Toprem
09-21-2004, 12:01 PM
*edit - No personal attacks. Second time I've had to edit you lately, Toprem. Watch your language. - Tia*

--edit-- i didnt read all of it and this gets better as it goes along

Theres is no way ANY class can do this solo at 38. Like i said b4 with the kobalds I dont care who you are or how good a player you are. Numbers of Kobalds, Goblins and then the Miners themselves make this IMPOSSIBLE. But i'm getting ahead of myself....

Kill 10 Gnome Miners in Sol A... Ok so how many people know where the Miners are? I asked my guild, everyone in the zone itself, friends, Other guilds memebers, anyone i could think of.. No one knew where they were.

BS, my BL could solo in Sol B at 38 NP. --bleh misread that part, but jesus christ its kobO lds map fuction = teh win.

Tuladen Silverthorn
09-21-2004, 01:11 PM
Ok so how many people know where the Miners are? I asked my guild, everyone in the zone itself, friends, Other guilds memebers, anyone i could think of.. No one knew where they were.

This made me cry in rl...I'm guessing all the people you know weren't playing pre-velious. My friends and I lived in this zone for a while, farming melatite for the paladins and CGS's for the clerics and druids. :)

The medium and above tasks are definitely not often soloable for most classes, which is fine with me but I didn't read the marketing hype about the expansion and didn't know they were supposed to be. However, good thing is that since the tasks are often in the same zones over and over you can find other people working on the same ones, so ask to team up. I'm not sure how they would make it soloable for everyone...something soloable by a warrior is most definitely trivial for a necro, etc.

My major gripe is that all the higher level tasks are in Kunark...c'mon, put some Grieg's End taskmasters in the game already!

Kutter
09-21-2004, 01:12 PM
Thx for the intelligent argument Topram, among pointing out my spelling mistakes and telling me that you could do it, i feel much better, thanks for that.

Its great to know that the first post I get on this forum is full of such constructive critisism.

Quote: 'i didnt read all of it and this gets better as it goes along'

Maybe if you actually spent some time reading the post, instead of just skimming through it to see which parts you could flame, you might actually gain an opinion, or hell, even have something to say.

Kutter.

Kutter
09-21-2004, 01:16 PM
Wow, is this the way it has to be? constantly defending ones own posts? maybe I'll go elsewhere and voice my opinion.

Tuladen, thx for your comments my friend, but not everyone plays the same zones as you and your friends... I'm sure I've played zones to death that you know nothing about also... May have made you laugh out loud, but just consider the point of someone that has never been there...

Kutter.

Logilitie
09-21-2004, 01:59 PM
we all have different references and experiences.
even though i'm a Kelethin Druid.. i never hunted in crushbone, hell i get lost in kelethin still. I went to qeynos with a bud and worked from there. blackburrow was a wonderful zone, everfrost, and of course the karanas.....

i didn't do much time ni those places..
MM, runnyvale, HhK..

been back since to see what i missed , but probably some places STILL i haven't seen or experienced. frozen tower thing in velious. never been to this day

Ariell
09-21-2004, 02:03 PM
Wow, is this the way it has to be? constantly defending ones own posts? maybe I'll go elsewhere and voice my opinion.

Tuladen, thx for your comments my friend, but not everyone plays the same zones as you and your friends... I'm sure I've played zones to death that you know nothing about also... May have made you laugh out loud, but just consider the point of someone that has never been there...

Kutter.

Maybe next time try being a little less "flammable" in your original post if you don't want people to make negative comments. You reap what you sow.

Aquila Swiftspirit
09-21-2004, 02:04 PM
I've tried a couple, and some are pretty impossible for some classes solo. There need to be class-specific, more realistically tuned tasks.

BUT, I have to say, the fact that you've never explored an old world zone such as Sol A makes me think that they're on the right track. Norrath is HUGE, and if you've just done some super fast level in DSP to Paludal to whatever kind of thing (I probably got those backwards), you should be grateful for the push to explore a bit.

I'm guessing that what they've done is basically chosen underused zones at different levels and tried to make the tasks work so that the experience of doing the task + the experience of finishing the task is about equal to the experience of playing in one of the popular zones.

I think some folks who started more recently have missed a lot by leveling fast through a few low risk/high reward zones. I had TONS of fun being terrified in Split Paw, crawling through Chardok and such.

My hope for the game would be that there'd be some way of encouraging folks to see more of Norrath and try more and different things, rather than sitting at a camp grinding. (In my fantasy of how this would work, you'd get greater experience for exploring different areas of the world and doing stuff in them, with a group or without, rather than greater experience for sitting in one place grinding away. I hate grinding experience!)

Kutter
09-21-2004, 02:24 PM
Ariell, you right of course... And my post is VERY flameable, but not in a complete diregard for credit where it is due kind of way. My post is negative, but I dont hate the task system, I just wish it had been worked on more. Your point is 100% valid, but I will not sit by and keep quiet if people feel the need to flame, they annoy me more than all the Corpse retrievals I have ever done in game, and I will retaliate :)

Aquilla You too are 100% correct, and reading your post made me kick myself for not including that particular aspect. They have indeed done this to push people further into Norrath, and like your self I am very greatful of that fact. I have been playing for 4 years, and I remember the older days where you were petrified to go somewhere, nowadays that seems to have waned, which is a real shame. SolA was one of those places that I just never got round to going, then got too higher lvl and moved on elsewhere. Logilitie, states that he/she has never been to Tower of Frozen Shadow, for example, where this is one of my favourite zones in the game. I know it inside out, back to front and have dropped Tserina (sp?) many, many times.. Another favourite of mine is Kaesora, which I also know exceptionally well and is another zone that even lvl 60+'s say 'where's that?' to... But enough of me trying to 'explain' why different players play in different areas, we should all know and respect that, and thats all there is to it...

The new expansions Task system does go a long way to addressing this, i totally agree, but this was not my cause for whineing :P. My cause was the fact that its too hard for the casual player, which is where this 'task system' is geared. I mean to give you and idea exactly where im coming from how about this.. I have been playing 4 years, and in that time i have never made a lvl 60 character... This is not through inability, or the fact that I don't know how, its to do with the fact that I can only play for a limited amount of time. I have a responsible job, a child and a house to look after. I was SO PLEASED when they introduced the task system for this reason alone.. FINALLY i thought to myself, I can advance my characters without spending all my time trying to get groups together, or raids, or... whatever, you see my point I'm sure :)

The problem was, that this did not happen, I'm still in a position where because of my RL I cant comit like a lot of polayers can to raids, and exp groups etc... You all have no idea how much i wish i could...

Thx for you input guys, most appreciated.

Kutter.

Ajjantis
09-21-2004, 02:34 PM
What game are you talking about? I stopped bothering readin when i read Verrant. EQ is not lead by verrant, there is no verrant! SoE is leading this game. It cant be that hard to get that into the head ;-)

But i agree completely, 1 task asked me to go to Sebilis and kill 10 krups or something. I can do that no problem but i cant imagine any warrior or rogue do that, especially not when not Time equipped :boohoo:

Shayleia
09-21-2004, 03:19 PM
Can people get over the semantics of his post and focus on the actual issue? Stop putting him down as he doesnt know where the miners are or that he mispells mobs names or that he still refers to Verant. As an old school druid (not the oldest by any means mind you) I never did Sol A until recently and can understand how people can and will get lost in these zones. The real issue is for the time limited players who thought that this task system was something they could do and are now finding out that it really isnt very plausible. Toting a task system for people who have an hour to burn that they can do solo is nice as long as it is true and atm the task system they have in operation isnt.
I am too big to do the task system but have heard horror stories from many friends who have attempted them, especially melee types who say there is no way they can complete these solo or in a timely fashion. I say /feedback everything in game over and over again using examples of each task you do. That is really the only thing I can suggest doing in a situation like this. GL in your future tasks.

karisun
09-21-2004, 04:37 PM
I agree, this task system was seriously undertested.

I have tried tasks, both with my main before I hit 66 and with my necro alt. Either the task was too difficult for the reward received, extremely time consuming, and/or just flat out too difficult to solo. I think its great to get people to go to other parts of the world, but this did not live up to its advertising IMO.

I plan to try some more tasks with my 56 BL and see how those go, but I don't think it will be much better. I guess I'll see.

K

Tiane
09-21-2004, 05:50 PM
Apparently making fun of someone's grammar and nitpicking basically irrelevant mistakes makes some people feel like a big shot.

Here's a tip, if you've got nothing to say about the content, then dont post.

Panamah
09-21-2004, 05:54 PM
Wasn't testing one of the things that SOE promised to do a better job on at the summit when so much of PoP and GoD came out obviously untested or half implemented? I guess they're still putting the bottom line ahead of their customers when push comes to nudge.

Toprem
09-21-2004, 07:05 PM
How anyone can "get lost" now a days is dumbfounding to me, the map function = teh win. reading the first post in the thread made me feel like I had gone back in time like, 4 years w/ the references to "verant" and the godawful misspelling of kobold. I never fought in a multitude of these low level zones like Sol A cause back in the day, they WERE big and confusing, but now with the maps, the quality of gear and such, people that complain about something like Sol A tasks makes me want to laugh and cry at the same time.

Kutter
09-21-2004, 08:33 PM
Verant Interactive
Headquartered in San Diego, California, Verant Interactive is a game development studio primarily focused on the production of online games. They are best known for the MMORP EverQuest.

Now, will you please stop with the lame ass flaming over the fact that I refer to VERANT and not Sony.. YES I KNOW SONY ARE THE DRIVING FORCE! But VERANT are the ones who developed the game, and they still have major input into how it is run and expanded...

And Toprem... Did you even read my other posts?

Also.. When i was writting it, I was wondering wether I was spelling Kobold right or not, but i figured that the people reading my post would forgive a spelling mistake because they were intelligent enough to read what I was saying, and not nit pick on a few badly spelled words.. Jesus man, grow the hell up!

And as for getting lost with the map system, did it ever cross your mind that I may not have LoY?? No of course it didn't, did it also ever cross your mind, that unlike you I cannot dedicate my life (nor would i want to) to each and every zone EQ has to offer.. And was it not BLATANTLY clear that I DID get lost in SoL A? I didn't make it up.. I didn't LIE for dramatic purpose, and I didn't post to have you flame me for the most petty things within my post... Can you create 3D models and animate them ?? NO? WHY NOT, I CAN!!!

I quote Tiane:

" Apparently making fun of someone's grammar and nitpicking basically irrelevant mistakes makes some people feel like a big shot.

Here's a tip, if you've got nothing to say about the content, then dont post."
And I agree 100%

So shut up, and let people have an opinion, which it may suprise you (if you read the content here) that most people AGREE with me! It may also suprise you to learn that I too am an OLD school EQ'er. I was around in the day when the minatour cave in Steamfont (sp? - just so i cant be flamed) was a terrifying place, I was there when Dvinn would be a BIG deal, and I was there when all the expansions came out. You are no better than me, you don't even know me.

One last thing.. Listen VERY carefully to what I have to say here...
"We don't all play EQ the way YOU obviously do! People are different, peoples interests are different, people like some zones and not others, I will spell Kobald any way I please, and people like you make me VERY sick! Get over your self rightous attitude and realise that WE ARE NOT ALL LIKE YOU! Leave it at this or next time i will really make you look stupid, thats a promise!

To the rest of you, thank you for your feedback, keep it coming this is very interesting to me. I also agree that we should all /feedback the problems as this is the only way SONY/VERANT or the Queen mother!! Will know they have a problem.

Kutter.

Toprem
09-21-2004, 09:27 PM
No, no Vernat does not. Verant has no active hand in EQ at all anymore.

And as for getting lost with the map system, did it ever cross your mind that I may not have LoY

No it really didn't, you know why? Cause the very idea of not buying an expansion for EQ is absurd, and if you don't own LoY I suggest you fix that. Bank Space + Map > All

Gnizmo
09-21-2004, 11:58 PM
No, no Vernat does not. Verant has no active hand in EQ at all anymore.

Fun factoid: Verant is a subsidiary of SOE. Infact, I have an old original EQ disc that has SOE written on it. Funny how that works huh? Different name, same company. Verant is very much still in control.

I thought I'd try a medium. This one was in Sol B, and was kill 10 Greater Kobalds. (not too hard I thought, as there right by the zone.) Not too hard? No, absolutely IMPOSSIBLE! I dont care who you are, how good you are at playing, or how much your twinked.. This IS NOT Soloable! Not even with a Necro... So I cheated.. Went and got buffed, including TEMP for me and the pet, went back and did the 10 Kobalds...

Hrmm, try getting 39 actually. The pet jumps around those levels are pretty significant. At 39 try sicking pet tanking healing the pet pretty regularly. Keep shadowbobd on it and hit the pet heal as well. Keep up VoS and snare definatly, others as mana premits. If you have Dark Soul, use it instead of VoS unless it gets resisted to often. Should the pet get to low step into melee range and tank for pet. While you are tanking spam Lifetap to keep up life. Keep Call of bones up at all times. Might even be possible at 38 with some determination, but this is all theory really. I know at 44 I could keep 7-8 spawns down solo and still get bored waiting around for respawns (window camp plus some other nearby spawns), so keepign a few at the entrance shouldn't be impossible. Just make sure to single pull everything and you should be good.

Over all though for a medium ranked quest that does seem pretty absurd. I wish I could comment on SolA but I did my best to avoid that zone. I tend to like looking over cliffs, and also tend to get a little to close to them and...... well anyone who has ever set foot in the zone should know why it is the worst zone for me to ever go into.

As for the ToFS, anyone who has not been there yet needs to go there. Absolutely one of the best dungeons ever, welll except the fourth floor. That one is just annoying, but all the others are pure gold.

Arienne
09-22-2004, 12:53 AM
Wasn't testing one of the things that SOE promised to do a better job on at the summit when so much of PoP and GoD came out obviously untested or half implemented?They made a lot of unfulfilled promises at the "summit"...

Toprem
09-22-2004, 02:47 AM
Fun factoid: Verant is a subsidiary of SOE. Infact, I have an old original EQ disc that has SOE written on it. Funny how that works huh? Different name, same company. Verant is very much still in control.


Fun fact, that was years ago, Verant no longer has a hand in EQ.

Stormhaven
09-22-2004, 07:39 AM
Sony originally owned something like 20% of Verant, when EQ became as successful as it did, Sony bought back the remaining 80% around 2000, and pretty much dismantled Verant Interactive. Smedley went on to be the COO of the new Sony Online Entertainment division, but many of the old school "Vision" team left to form Sigil and attempt to create their own "EQ killer." Sony always had their hand in EQ (when EQ first came out, SOE was known more as 989 Studios), but now owns the developers as well. Verant doesn't exist anymore.

Kutter
09-22-2004, 07:50 AM
oh my god Toprem, dont you ever give up? Your posts are now proving your age, and most of the people here with something to say are seeing you for what you are, a spoiled 16- 18 year old who has everything HIS way. Sure you can come back with a post such as, I'm not 16, I'm 27!! But no one will believe that, why? Because you portray yourself as immature, and not worth noticing, so I for one will not make any more comments based on your posts... To put it in a language you understand /ignore Toprem...

Something else that points towards your age is your sig line... 2 things spring to mind when i read it... You like Kevin Smith movies because they are 'cool' and all your friends like them... And you dont have the FIRST idea about who 'Morris Day and the Time' really are. You dont understand the context Kevin Smith used that phrase in, in Jay and Silent Bob Strike back, and you could have used a MILLION other much 'cooler' phrases from his movies... Go and watch Clerks and pick one from that.

One last thing, like before... Do you REALLY care if Verant have anything to do with EQ anymore? And once again listen carefully.. I DONT!

Now get OUT of the thread I started!

Kutter.

Scirocco
09-22-2004, 08:04 AM
a spoiled 16- 18 year old who has everything HIS way.

Well, he just posted that he turned 19, so you had best revise your estimate. Not that age really matters.


To put it in a language you understand /ignore Toprem...

If he's pushing your buttons, then do just that. Responding to him the way that you are doesn't improve things.



Now get OUT of the thread I started!

He has as much right to post here as anyone, provided he follows the posting guidelines.

Stormhaven
09-22-2004, 09:05 AM
Using the examples provided of post content, language, the "OMG no one listens to me!!!" attitude, the propensity towards CAPS LOCK and excessive punctuation!!!?!? the opinion I am forming is that Toprem is not the one acting immaturely.

Not only that, but I do believe that the entire post above could be taken as a direct attack, consider yourself warned, Kutter.

Toprem
09-22-2004, 10:40 AM
oh my god Toprem, dont you ever give up?

No, I don't give up when I'm right~ oh and If i wanted to prove my age id take a pic with my digicam and post it :OP

Aluaeia
09-22-2004, 01:56 PM
Using the examples provided of post content, language, the "OMG no one listens to me!!!" attitude, the propensity towards CAPS LOCK and excessive punctuation!!!?!? the opinion I am forming is that Toprem is not the one acting immaturely.

Not only that, but I do believe that the entire post above could be taken as a direct attack, consider yourself warned, Kutter.

Owned.

Kulothar
09-22-2004, 02:33 PM
I think it will get a little easier once Allak's has all of the tasks posted. So far I got sent to Chardoc to ruin my pro-chardoc faction and then to Droga where the wandering mages were chain nuking me for 635 a pop and not running out of mana... Then of course you can take someone with you (defeats the purpose of a solo task) and hope they dont get the killing blow.. at least they can fend off all the wandering adds...

Kutter
09-22-2004, 09:39 PM
oh dear... My propensity to useing CAPS.. Just a way of putting infliction into the text Stormhaven, My OMG no one listens to me attitude ? err, where exactly did you get that from ?

Still no worries, I'm obviously not wanted, so I shall trouble you all no longer. I'll find a site that grown ups use.

Kutter.

Stormhaven
09-23-2004, 07:36 AM
Hope you find one that caters a supposed "adult" with the attitude of a five year old. You're making all the other folks from the UK look bad!
Bye! /Banned

Aquila Swiftspirit
09-29-2004, 02:01 AM
My first experiences with tasks sort of left me ho hum. But since then I've tried a couple things.

First, since I had amiable Chardok faction, I got a Chardok solo quest (66 druid, some elemental gear). I could run in, kill my mob, kill the add, relax, and it was fun in that sort of weird way that killing mobs that think you're nice can be fun.

Something I'd discovered accidentally recently is that you can do these grouped, and if your group is all after Mob X in Zone Y, you can all get task updates for mob X when you are grouped and kill the mob cooperatively (yes, even if all I did towards the kill was heal). So, tonight, I got together a couple friends, we went together and each got a Droga task, and off we went. Our cooperative skills meant that a six pull was a fun challenge, and not exodus time. We chatted, killed mobs, and had fun. At the end of the evening, we got a decent split, two of us had nice twink loots to sell, we'd all gotten to hang out together under low pressure, had fun, and even got a little exp. (I was the best geared of any of my friends by a fair bit, I think.)

It's not maximizing experience or anything, but it was all about why I enjoy the game: hanging out and chatting with online friends while trying something out. We met another guy down there, grouped up, all got some success, and went away happy.

I'm not sure that tasks are doing the solo thing at ALL well, but they can be fun if you use what's available and just aim to have fun.

Firemynd
09-29-2004, 02:18 PM
I think that's what people are complaining about, though. There are already tons of activities for groups; that's what the game has been based upon for years.

Tasks were supposedly SOE's answer to players' request for a tangible way to progress when they didn't have a lot of time to play or not enough time to commit themselves to a group for an adventure, trial, expedition, or just exp grinding. Long before they were implemented, tasks were promoted as something one could do during shorter play sessions or while waiting for a group.

Obviously, the task system is nowhere close to fulfilling that purpose.

~Firemynd

Aquila Swiftspirit
09-29-2004, 03:06 PM
I agree Fire, they aren't meeting the need for fun solo and short time fun.

Kulothar
10-08-2004, 08:57 AM
Well, I am still working on that task to get the 10 Goblin Fire casters. I got number 7 last night after a week doing it when not grouped. Takes a while to clear to them, they completely dispell me, Dot and snare and nuke hard.. So far only two deaths to them because of exodus but I really cannot see where this is a solo task doable in by someone that has limited time to play. If they would move them where you could run or manuver maybe but in Droga surrounded by DB casters, I really don't see where that is a task your average Druid can complete in an hour or so..