please excuse the grammer and spelling currently working on these problems in college.

Just wondering how much AP should i be looking at getting right now buffed out i get 1026ap in cat form at what point should i start looking for crit gear.

Thanks Slug
60 Druid Gnomergun

Keep working on your AP a bit but also start trying to reel in a couple of the more exceptional crit pieces if possible. You are right about at that area where you can start to mix and match. Just don't forget about your Stamina too in the process.

Yea. Your AP looks pretty good but I only vaguely remember my feral days... I remember seeing something like %crit adds like 20 or 30dps and %hit adds like 10-15 dps up to %hit max and stuff.

Stam is good. No point if you're gonna go out in one hit as well :O

1k is great for even smaller raids. It's good to have a bit more, 1.1-1.2k if you're showing low on the meter on bosses (or snag +hit% gear).

Either way, start looking for some crit and sta gear. As you get them you'll need better str/agi gear to keep your AP up.

AP AP AP all the way. F'ck people telling you that burst damage is the thang. You can easily get +5-10 critchance from easy to get buffs.

AP them out. AP like hell! \o/

There is very complicated math, that I can no longer link to or reproduce on my own, that looks at when agility is greater than strength; that is to say when 1 AP + some crit % improvement > 2 AP. You have reached that point and will progress best from now on by increasing your agility.

Now, I am 100% confident that you will get a greater dps increase now adding one agility rather than adding one strength. However, if you are looking at the straight +crit % effect on gear I am unsure, because with the agility you are increasing crit chance, but you are also increasing AP some.

There is very complicated math, that I can no longer link to or reproduce on my own, that looks at when agility is greater than strength; that is to say when 1 AP + some crit % improvement > 2 AP. You have reached that point and will progress best from now on by increasing your agility.

Now, I am 100% confident that you will get a greater dps increase now adding one agility rather than adding one strength. However, if you are looking at the straight +crit % effect on gear I am unsure, because with the agility you are increasing crit chance, but you are also increasing AP some.

BS! AP is best in both PvE and PvP. AP AP AP! there is no "thin line" to cross. AP them out and you get mad crits aswell as good "white damage".

AP is your friend. There's a reason why feral druids have it easy to get phat AP.

AP FFS! You're a feral druid. AP them to oblivion! ;)

AP and damage are not in a linear relationship. Additional AP will yeild a smaller amount of damage as AP increases.

Crit chance and damage are in a linear relationship.

For an equal-level mob, additional crit chance yeilds more damage than additional AP at about 1k AP. Due to high level/AC bosses, 1.1k - 1.2k AP is needed before crit% takes precedence.

Thing is, it's all about opportunity cost. Opportunity cost includes things such as how hard a piece is to get and what you have to take off to put the new piece on.

So, what's better from where you are? It all depends on the AC & level of the mob you're trying to hit.

If your worried about the level of the mob you're killing its more a matter of weaponskill than AP (more weaponskill = less glancing blows).

I didnt know we was talking about that tho. =)

If your worried about the level of the mob you're killing its more a matter of weaponskill than AP (more weaponskill = less glancing blows).

I didnt know we was talking about that tho. =)You're right: mob level has nothing to do with it.

I'm always right in the end. =)

A lot of good mathematical analysis on this site for cat DPS:

http://tangedyn.pbwiki.com/


But saying to ignore Crit for all out AP is silly, especially for PvP. I've never white damaged a warlock or priest to death, but a couple well-timed crits will do wonders against them.

A lot of good mathematical analysis on this site for cat DPS:

http://tangedyn.pbwiki.com/


But saying to ignore Crit for all out AP is silly, especially for PvP. I've never white damaged a warlock or priest to death, but a couple well-timed crits will do wonders against them.

Yes ofc. Burst damage is better than "white damage" no questions asked. I just think druids get more "bang for the buck" if they focus on AP.

This has been said and posted before but it appears that the point where agility is better for ap then strength is next to never.

http://tangedyn.pbwiki.com/Crit%20vs%20Attack%20Power%20Table

From my personal experience it just seems to me that I crit alot more than what my crit % is. Kind of like the green whelp armor phenomenon. It just seems to happen more than it should. So that being the case (for me and in my experience) it would be another reason (besides the proven mathematics) to focus on str vs. agility.