View Full Forums : Forum reoganizations, a proposal.


guice
10-24-2007, 09:53 PM
Forum reorder suggestion. I'm looking at these forums and I'm not really liking how they are organized; so I thought I would throw up a thread asking the community before I go and redo everything.

The problem I'm seeing is we have information spread out and not enough activity to keep some forums busy. On top of that, the standard one "equipment" forum doesn't work very well on a class that has 4 different sets of equipment.

My suggestion is to do a little reorder. To better illustrate what I'm getting at, I'll leave it to my uber ASCII artwork:

---- Site News ---
The Grove
----- The Guardian ----
The Emerald Dream [General]
For the Horde! [PvP]
Quests (or some other snazy name with [quests])
Trade Skills / Professions
------ Preserving the Balance of Nature ---
Balance Druids
Feral Druids
Restro Druids
------- Others ----
My Life for Aiur... I mean Ner'zhul [OT]
The Ruins of Lordaeron [Flamers]
Test Signatures Here Only!

The general idea here is to try and organize data into more relevant sections without getting too detailed. I also don't see a reason for so many OT forums. Heck, I'd vote for removing the The Ruins of Lodaeron, too.

What do you all think? Ya, nah, guice is a dumbass, f off? Post any comments here. This is your chance to get herd.

Trixtaa
10-24-2007, 10:57 PM
I also agree with removing The Ruins of Lordaeron. 1 Off-topic Forum is enough for the time being.

I really like your proposed layout but maybe you should keep the Trade Skills/Profession section. In my mind, the different spec topics can contain info about leveling/raiding/talents. Unless you intend on having Professions related discussions in General.

guice
10-24-2007, 11:53 PM
The idea was to get more traffic centralized within general chat without clustering it up too much. I can see the purpose of a trade skills channel. In all honesty, I did forget about it and now that I think about it more, it could be worth while to have it separately. We'll start off with it separate and see how that goes. It's not hard to collapse forums, breaking them up however is.

dingodog
10-25-2007, 09:10 AM
Hi,

Just to clarify... if the feral / resto / balance sections are specific to equipment I'd suggest making the titles more specific to equipment, otherwise I can see that you'd get more general posts under these sections.

I'm thinking aloud on this one.... but maybe sections relating to levels eg: forums for level 0-35; 31-69 and end-game. I'm thinking of those posts like 'help for a new druid' or 'where to level now I'm 40' etcetc that appear in the general forums. See what you think, I'm just throwing the idea into the mix.

Anyhow, I'll think on and post if I come up with anything.

Take care
Dingo

PS: 'For the Horde!' - Don't Alliance PvP too? :wink:

Kyane
10-25-2007, 11:05 AM
The difficult part about breaking feral/resto/balance into different forums is:
1) feral is the dominate spec as of current
2) discussions of one spec tend to lead to another unless solely talking about raiding / gear
3) druids are so dynamic we can change nearly on the fly

Perhaps something more along the lines of Druidic Theorycrafting?

tlbj6142
10-25-2007, 11:10 AM
On my hunter boards, we have a single forum for "Talents".
In fact here's their line-up...

Forum Announcements
General Discussions
Gear, Enchants and Gems
Pets (not needed for druids)
Talents
Quests
PvP
RL> WoW
Rant Forum (bitch about WoW stuff here)
Off Target (non-hunter Wow Stuff)

guice
10-25-2007, 11:54 AM
Just to clarify... if the feral / resto / balance sections are specific to equipment I'd suggest making the titles more specific to equipment, otherwise I can see that you'd get more general posts under these sections.
Equipment, talent builds and play styles are all unique to each build type. Druids to switch builds pretty easily, but I don't think many switch them on a weekly/nightly basis.
(Although, I do know some warriors that do)

I'm thinking aloud on this one.... but maybe sections relating to levels eg: forums for level 0-35; 31-69 and end-game. I'm thinking of those posts like 'help for a new druid' or 'where to level now I'm 40' etcetc that appear in the general forums. See what you think, I'm just throwing the idea into the mix.
That creates a top heavy forum again. Similar to the argument brought up earlier, eventually all your communication falls within the higher tier threads. And then you stop having people visiting the lower tier ones. In my experiences, breaking out into level ranges hasn't worked out very well.

PS: 'For the Horde!' - Don't Alliance PvP too? :wink:
ha, true that. What would you suggest as the Alliance's battle cry?

guice
10-25-2007, 12:01 PM
The difficult part about breaking feral/resto/balance into different forums is:
1) feral is the dominate spec as of current
2) discussions of one spec tend to lead to another unless solely talking about raiding / gear
3) druids are so dynamic we can change nearly on the fly

Perhaps something more along the lines of Druidic Theorycrafting?
My idea was to get some kind of separation between Feral, Restro and Balance based threads. The different spec forums would encompass more than just talents, but also equipment and play styles. Running quests and raids are completely different between each spec.

As for your point 3, this is true. However, everybody always has their "one" key spec, whether it be a Balance or Feral druid respecing to Restro for a short period. The thought process is people need info for a specific talent build. Having separate forums allows order of that data, making it easier to locate build specific information.

The way I see it; Talents, Equipment and play style are all talent specific. Quests, tradeskills are not. Thus why I see having talent based threads while keeping quests and tradeskills in their own forum.

guice
10-25-2007, 12:05 PM
On my hunter boards, we have a single forum for "Talents".
I don't play a hunter nor have a played one past 20, but I do know druid play styles are so different between the specs, we have 3 completely different types of armor sets. They are practically different classes when switching talents. Having Talents in one forum doesn't working too well for druids. I mean, just look at our current board, where talents and spells are within their own forum. It doesn't get much traffic at all. Now, try to locate Balance specific info. ;)

tlbj6142
10-25-2007, 12:36 PM
I do know druid play styles are so different between the specs, we have 3 completely different types of armor sets.I think Druid talent builds are fairly straight forward. With the 3 hunter builds, there is always 3-5 talent points in each build that are up for debate. Maybe that's why talent discussions are more prevalent on the Hunter boards, than on Druid boards?!?!

WRT gear, there are several types of gear for hunters as well. +AP, +agi, MP5, +hit, etc. All have different levels of importance depending on spec. The differences are just more subtle than the very different gear specs required for the 3 druid specs (and 4 types of gear specs). A hunter build that needs +agi, will still benefit from +AP, whereas a Restro Druid gains no benefit from +agi gear. Just like Ferals gain no benefit from +healing gear.

So, the 3 "build" forums would that encompass talents, gear and skills for that build? That would make sense. It doesn't make all that much sense to have a single gear forum, if that is your take.

guice
10-25-2007, 01:47 PM
So, the 3 "build" forums would that encompass talents, gear and skills for that build? That would make sense. It doesn't make all that much sense to have a single gear forum, if that is your take.
Yes, that would be the purpose of the individual build forums. They would encompass skills, gear and talents related to that specific build.

tlbj6142
10-25-2007, 02:08 PM
Yes, that would be the purpose of the individual build forums. They would encompass skills, gear and talents related to that specific build.Perfect. Frankly, it doesn't mater all that much. It is the people that make the board. If we were all a-holes it wouldn't mater how well you organized it.

Annikk
10-26-2007, 04:33 AM
ha, true that. What would you suggest as the Alliance's battle cry?

DREK'THAR ALL IN!!!!""!2


-Annikk

guice
10-26-2007, 01:25 PM
DREK'THAR ALL IN!!!!""!2
But he's Horde. Not exactly an Alliance battle cry when you're referencing a Horde character.


Any case, since most seem to agree to the changes, I'll start working on them this weekend. It should get things looking a bit better.

Annikk
10-26-2007, 01:28 PM
"Drek'thar all in" is a phrase frequently used by the Alliance in Alterac Valley, indicated all the generals have been killed and it's time for the attack team to run inside Drek'thar's room to kill him.

It's been used and overused so much that it has become a bit of a catchphrase on alliance side, in much the same way as "kek" has come to mean "lol", because when a horde says "lol", alliance see it as "kek" due to the language difference.

It has an obviously humorous overtone and I think 90% of Alliance would realise where it's from. There again I've only ever played on one server, so I might be totally wrong.. :>


-Annikk

Raging Epistaxis
10-26-2007, 02:03 PM
Hmm. I was thinking along the lines of "Fall on your swords!", but since all my druids (except my newest, lvl 6) are Horde, I may not be as impartial as some...

:-)

guice
10-26-2007, 02:07 PM
"Drek'thar all in" is a phrase frequently used by the Alliance in Alterac Valley, indicated all the generals have been killed and it's time for the attack team to run inside Drek'thar's room to kill him.
Ah, I get it now that you've explained it. I don't PvP much so I never caught onto that. ^_^

Annikk
10-26-2007, 02:15 PM
That's a good point I guess - not everyone pvps, I suppose. I just couldn't think of any other particular phrase that united specifically the alliance.

By the way, hypothetical question here while we're on the subject of forum changes. Who would I have to sleep with to get The Druids Grove (or at least the Warcraft forums) to be renamed The Durids Grove? :P


-Annikk

guice
10-26-2007, 02:40 PM
By the way, hypothetical question here while we're on the subject of forum changes. Who would I have to sleep with to get The Druids Grove (or at least the Warcraft forums) to be renamed The Durids Grove? :P
You talking about "World of Warcraft - Druids GroveŽ" ?

Depends...the price may be high though.

guice
10-27-2007, 12:16 PM
There, a little reorg done, for now. I was going to kill the old spell/talent and equipment forums, but then I realized it would be a bit more of a pain separating out 20 pages of posts. :lol:

guice
10-27-2007, 12:32 PM
hmm, I wonder if I should put the combined spells/talent/equipment posts in the general forums. What do yall think?

Trixtaa
10-27-2007, 06:12 PM
You could because these forums don't move super fast but as our community grows you might have to split them.

Best way to check this would probably be to test out the new format. No other better way that I can think of.

Nooner
10-28-2007, 08:38 AM
I love the new organization!!! As an up-n-coming Balance Raider(and a huge fan of the wowmb.net forums) this layout helps me greatly!

Thanks again!

Annikk
10-29-2007, 12:51 PM
The new layout looks awesome. :>

would look better with this though... =)

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/2937/wowtdglogola6.jpg


-Annikk

guice
10-29-2007, 02:16 PM
hm, you lost me. The graphics are all still here. Are you all not seeing them? I did notice there were times where they wouldn't load. I think the server is having some DNS issues...is anybody else experiencing that problem?

Yrys
10-29-2007, 02:44 PM
Take a closer look at his graphic. :P

guice
10-29-2007, 02:45 PM
ha. Alright, I see it now. :p

Trixtaa
10-29-2007, 08:12 PM
Durid is sometimes play jokes on ech utter (tauren is play jokes 2)

Annikk
10-30-2007, 09:12 AM
iz true ! :D sum durids is lieks to make happyfuntimes ^_^



-Annikk

Annikk
11-08-2007, 11:56 AM
I realise I am too late to get this proposal into the changes as they have been implemented already, but...

I had this idea in the shower this morning.

Would it be possible to create a subforum, "secret clearing" or something like that, somewhere that only TDG members with 50+ posts can see (to everyone with <50 posts it's invisible).

The purpose of this forum would be for regular posters to have non-WoW-related discussions.

Currently there is no suitable place for us to have a "how do you look IRL" thread, or a "best music for druiding?" thread, and so forth. Having this forum around would strengthen the community by providing a place where members can get to know each other beyond their individual theories on druiding and warcrafting. Making it invisible to new signups makes the community feel less cliquey for the seedlings.


Anyways, just an idea :>


-Annikk (thread necromancy ftw)

guice
11-08-2007, 12:16 PM
Isn't that what the OOC Forum is for? ;)

Cliquey isn't an issue, imo. It's a forum and a forum community. New seedlings would rather see a real community than just random posts and here and there from random people. I think having it viewable would be most beneficial.

Annikk
11-08-2007, 12:24 PM
-.- I missed that forum. I could have sworn we didn't have one of those..

Oh well, shows how much attention sum durids is pays.. :p


-Annikk