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Maeral
07-11-2008, 05:48 PM
(If this has already been discussed some where, I apologize. My search-fu is weak and I couldnít find the answers Iím looking for)

So I just dinged 70 the other day and Iím looking to get ready for Heroics and Raiding. Iíve looked up the gear lists for Cat DPS and Bear Tanking, and Iím on the hunt.

Through all of this Iím left with a question, when is enough, enough? As I understand it Agility is the #1 stat for ferals. Okay, if that is the case, at what point do I have to much agility? In the lat few days as I made my push to 70, I noticed I was missing mobs my own level or higher. More than normal it feels like, but I canít say that for sure. So looking at my stat/gear Iím left wondering, have I focused to much on Agility and skipped out on +hit or something else. I know I need more Stamina, thatís at the top of my list.

If possible, could my fellow druids give me an idea of what I should shoot for in the way of stats. Damn if this isnít more complicated that I thought.

Blessed Be,
Maeral

Armory Link
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Khaz%20Modan&n=Maeral

Strength: 189
Agility: 291
Stamina: 420
Intellect: 165
Spirit: 147

Armor: 2377
Defense: 351
Dodge: 18.96%
Resilience: 0

Power: 552
Hit Rate: 47
Critical Chance: 12.25%
Expertise: 0

Kyane
07-11-2008, 07:17 PM
It depends on what you want to do. If you're tanking?

Def > Stam > ( and others will disagree at where stats prioritize when at this point ) while you are not 415 def w/ 3/3 SotF.

After you're def capped you need to focus on stam and agi.

For Cat DPS as I recall most ferals stop collecting hit around 90 or 100 then focus on AP and crit.

Been a while since I focused on those stats....wow I'm rusty. >_<

tlbj6142
07-11-2008, 09:30 PM
Do you want gear for tanking or kitty DPS? If the answer is both, you will need 2 sets of gear. Though initially a few pieces will overlap.

Maeral
07-12-2008, 08:36 AM
Iím planning two sets, three actually. Tanking/DPS/Healing (only to support low level guildies).

On my list Iíve got the 415 defense cap, what Iím not sure about is Agility. Iíve been focused on it for so long Iím not sure were to stop. Iíve passed up gear with +hit in favor of more agility, but Iím not sure I should.

Thanks for the help.

tlbj6142
07-12-2008, 09:17 AM
Don't worry about +hit on your tanking set, but it is nice on your kitty set.

For your tanking set, check out...

http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/04/15/shifting-perspectives-gearing-your-bear-tank-from-70-to-karazha/
http://nedruid.wordpress.com/2007/04/01/great-end-game-gear-without-raiding-bear/
http://teethandclaws.blogspot.com/2007/12/feral-tanking-enchants-by-slot.html
http://thebigbearbutt.com/2007/09/04/consumables-for-the-feral-druid/

Regarding stats (for tanking), I'd gem for +sta until you have ~16K in bear form. Then gem +agi. Always enchant +agi (or +stats).

For your kitty set, just use...

http://www.emmerald.net/ (The Cat-DPS links, not the high-DPS links)

I use an addon called Pawn that allows you give items values based on their stats. I take the numbers from Emmerald's list (on the info tab) to create a bear and kitty value for each item. It helps to compare items in game. Though sometimes the lists values don't always reflect an item's true value if they have "on use" entries, weird procs, set bonuses, etc.

Maeral
07-14-2008, 08:52 PM
Thanks for all the input.

I now have a better idea of were I need to go.

Thanks again.

Annikk
07-16-2008, 10:29 AM
Hello new druid ! :D

Looks like I missed the boat on this one. I will add my $0.02 anyway tho..

The most important thing for you right now is to get a weapon that gives "attack power in feral forms".
This will increase your damage output drastically. If I were you, I would focus on this task to the exclusion of all else.

If you can get a 5 man group together, there is a quest at the arena in north Nagrand which gives a blue reward called Staff of Beasts.

http://upload.wowhead.com/images/screenshots/15973.jpg

Staff of Beasts
Binds when picked up
Two-Hand Staff
144 - 253 Damage Speed 3.30
(60.2 damage per second)
+31 Strength
+30 Agility
+45 Stamina
Durability 100 / 100
Equip: Increases attack power by 375 in Cat, Bear, Dire Bear, and Moonkin forms only.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25761#.


With regards to Hit Rating.
This only becomes truly important once you are raiding, and most of your gear is of Epic (purple) quality. At this point Hit Rating becomes a useful way to increase your damage output.
If you get 142 hit rating, your attacks will never miss - even against a raid boss.
142 hit rating = 9% "chance to hit".

-Annikk