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Yrys
02-05-2009, 12:57 AM
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14910002204&sid=1

We are planning a lot of exciting content for patch 3.1.0, and we are doing a three-part preview series on upcoming class changes. This is the first in the series: Priests, Rogues, and Shaman. Please keep in mind, that this list is not at all comprehensive, and subject to change.

PRIEST
# Divine Spirit – this spell is now a core ability available to all priests.
# Discipline has access to a new talent, Power Word: Barrier. (Think of it as Power Word: Shield for your whole group).
# Several area of effect (AOE) heal spells have been improved: Prayer of Healing can be cast on any groups in your raid party. Holy Nova’s mana cost has been reduced. Circle of Healing now heals for more.
# Shadow priest PvP survivability has been improved: Shadow Form now reduces magic as well as physical damage. Dispersion now removes snares.
# Penance – this spell can now be targeted on the priest.
# Serendipity – this talent now reduces the cast time of Greater Heal and Prayer of Healing when Binding Heal or Flash Heal are cast.
# We are also working to give Holy additional PvP utility.

ROGUE
# Hunger for Blood – instead of a self-buff, this ability can only be used when there is a bleed effect on the target. However, it has no stacks and grants a 15% damage bonus.
# Adrenaline Rush – the cooldown on this ability has been lowered.
# Lightning Reflexes – reduced to 3 ranks. In addition to 2/4/6% dodge, this talent now also grants 4/7/10% passive melee haste.
# Killing Spree – while this ability is active, the rogue does 20% additional damage.
# Savage Combat – now causes 2/4% physical damage done.
# Mace Specialization – this talent now grants haste in addition to armor penetration.

SHAMAN
# Chain Lightning – now jumps to 4 targets but does less damage. We wanted to make the distinction between Lightning Bolt and Chain Lightning more clear.
# Storm, Earth and Fire – this talent now increases all damage done by Flame Shock, not just periodic damage.
# Spirit Weapons – now reduces all threat, not just melee threat.
# Unleashed Rage – reduced to 2 ranks, now also increases your critical strike chance with melee attacks by 1/2%.
# Totem streamlining: The Mana Spring and Healing Stream Totems have been combined. The Disease Cleansing and Poison Cleansing Totems have been combined.
# We are also working on giving Enhancement and Elemental more PvP utility.

COMING SOON
Warlock
Druid
Hunter
Death Knight
Mage
Paladin
Warrior

Kheldar
02-05-2009, 03:17 AM
i guess 3.1 is quite some time away yet though?

will it be this patch that also adds dual specs ?

i'll be interested to see the druid changes.......

skwidrific
02-05-2009, 10:24 AM
i guess 3.1 is quite some time away yet though?

will it be this patch that also adds dual specs ?

i'll be interested to see the druid changes.......

GC has said that cats' damage is a little low compared to other classes, so i'll be looking forward to a dps buff... I'd LOVE to see dual specs get implemented with this patch, even though i haven't figured out what my other spec will be yet...

tlbj6142
02-05-2009, 11:40 AM
Here's the druid changes...
* Savage Defense – this is a new passive ability. When a druid in Dire Bear form deals a melee critical strike, the druid gains a damage shield equal to 25% of their attack power. The next hit completely removes the shield regardless of how much damage was done.
* Survival of the Fittest has had its bonus armor reduced to compensate for the above increase in damage mitigation.
* Faerie Fire (and similar debuffs) now reduces armor by 5%. See Sunder Armor in the warrior update below for additional details.
* Thorns and Nature’s Grasp can be cast in Tree of Life form.
* Survival Instincts now works in Moonkin form.
* Replenish – to avoid confusion, this talent has been renamed “Revitalize.” It now also works with Wild Growth.
* We are also looking at increasing the sustained (not burst) damage of feral druids in cat form.


That first changes is nice. It means that bears will have to care about crit, hit, exp and str more than they do today. So all of the bear whiners out that wanted more "stats too care about" got their wish.

Yrys
02-05-2009, 11:52 AM
Wow, they're posting them faster than I expected. Here's all of part 2:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14910422662&sid=1

WARLOCK

# Improved Shadow Bolt – this talent now provides a 5% spell critical strike buff (similar to Improved Scorch).
# Improved Soul Leech – this talent now provides Replenishment (similar to shadow priests)
# Drain Soul now has a chance to produce Soul Shards even if the target doesn’t die.
# Siphon Life no longer as an active ability but the talent grants the old Siphon Life effect to Corruption.
# Curse of Recklessness and Curse of Weakness have been combined into one spell
# Consume Shadows – this Voidwalker ability is no longer channeled but has a cooldown.
# Several other warlock talents have had their ranks reduced, their effects changed or removed. This list includes but is not limited to Demonic Empathy, Shadow Embrace, Eradication, Suppression, and Pandemic.
# Additional new talents have been added.

DRUID

# Savage Defense – this is a new passive ability. When a druid in Dire Bear form deals a melee critical strike, the druid gains a damage shield equal to 25% of their attack power. The next hit completely removes the shield regardless of how much damage was done.
# Survival of the Fittest has had its bonus armor reduced to compensate for the above increase in damage mitigation.
# Faerie Fire (and similar debuffs) now reduces armor by 5%. See Sunder Armor in the warrior update below for additional details.
# Thorns and Nature’s Grasp can be cast in Tree of Life form.
# Survival Instincts now works in Moonkin form.
# Replenish – to avoid confusion, this talent has been renamed “Revitalize.” It now also works with Wild Growth.
# We are also looking at increasing the sustained (not burst) damage of feral druids in cat form.

WARRIOR

# Changing stances now has a much reduced cost: you lose a maximum of 20 rage (10 with Tactical Mastery). For example, if you have 100 rage and change stances, you will have 80 rage remaining. If you have 10 rage and change stances, all of your rage is lost. In addition, we may change the penalties associated with some stances.
# You now gain rage when damage done to you is absorbed, such as through a Power Word: Shield.
# Blood Frenzy now causes 2/4% physical damage done.
# Sunder Armor (and similar debuffs) now reduces armor by 4% per application, and is now a single rank. Creature armor has been globally reduced so that debuffed targets should take about the same damage from physical attacks that they did before this change. The net effect should be that this debuff is slightly less mandatory in PvE and is not disproportionately more powerful against cloth targets in PvP.
# We are also adding increased damage to Arms, possibly through Overpower or Slam.
# We are also looking at granting rage when the warrior blocks, dodges or parries.

COMING SOON

Hunter
Death Knight
Mage
Paladin

Oiysters
02-05-2009, 12:21 PM
Here's the druid changes...


That first changes is nice. It means that bears will have to care about crit, hit, exp and str more than they do today. So all of the bear whiners out that wanted more "stats too care about" got their wish.
If it works out that with the possible exception of trinkets and idols my bear = my cat gear (same gems, same enchants viable for both sets), I'll be very happy with this. If not...what a PITA.

tlbj6142
02-05-2009, 12:25 PM
If it works out that with the possible exception of trinkets and idols my bear = my cat gear (same gems, same enchants viable for both sets), I'll be very happy with this. If not...what a PITA.I think that is what we will start moving toward. Which is nice. We'll have to wait and see some of the details (what happens when we crit a swipe on 10 adds? Glyph Maul Crit on 2 targets?).

tlbj6142
02-05-2009, 03:52 PM
Check out the major changes to mana regen...

http://thedailydruid.com/2009/02/05/blizzard-announces-changes-to-mana-regen/

...sloppy healers everywhere are crying. Well, they don't know it yet, but they will be crying...

Yrys
02-06-2009, 01:36 AM
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14910003268&sid=1

MAGE

# Improved Water Elemental – this talent has been removed and replaced with a new talent that grants Replenishment (similar to Shadow priests).
# We are also working on a way to give frost mages Ice Lance “Shatter combos” in PvE.
# We are also working on more survivability for Fire spec in PvP.
# We are also working on making Spirit a more useful and interesting stat for all mages.

PALADIN

# Blessing of Kings – this spell is now a base ability trainable by all paladins.
# Exorcism – this spell now causes damage to all types of enemy targets. However, it always critical strikes undead or demon targets. This change should make sure paladin damage doesn’t drop when going from Naxxramas to later tiers of content.
# Shield of the Templar now causes your Avenger’s Shield and Shield of the Righteousness to silence targets for 3 sec. The old damage bonus of this talent has been folded into Holy Shield, Avenger’s Shield, and Shield of the Righteousness.
# Ardent Defender, Improved Hammer of Justice, One-Handed Weapon Specialization and more have had their ranks reduced.
# Guarded by the Light – no longer reduces the mana cost of shield spells, but now has a 50/100% chance to refresh Divine Plea duration.
# Judgements of the Just – now also reduces the cooldown of Hammer of Justice by 10/20 seconds and increases the duration of the Seal of Justice stun effect by 0.5/1 second.

HUNTER

# Consumable ammunition has been removed from the game. Arrows and bullets no longer stack, but are not consumed. Ranged attack speed bonus gained from quivers and ammo bags will be preserved in a different capacity.
# A new tier of hunter pet talents have been added. In particular, this allows Beastmaster hunters to improve their damage per second (DPS) with their 51 point talent.
# Hunting Party – this talent has been reduced to 3 ranks and also grants a passive bonus to the hunter.
# Piercing Shots – this talent has been changed. Your Aimed, Steady and Chimera Shots cause the target to bleed for 10/20/30% of damage dealt for 8 sec.
# Sniper Training – this talent has been changed. After standing still for 6 sec, you gain a 2/4/6% damage bonus to Steady, Aimed and Explosive Shot.
# We are also looking to add additional trap functionality to Survival.

DEATH KNIGHT

# Gargoyle and Unholy Blight have swapped talent positions. Gargoyle’s damage has increased and runic power cost per time has decreased.
# Pestilence – this spell no longer causes damage but just spreads diseases. Blood Boil is intended to be the general area attack, and has been changed to be castable on targets with no diseases on them, but does extra damage if diseases are present.
# Unbreakable Armor now absorbs a flat amount of damage that increases as your armor increases. It no longer boosts armor.
# The Frost tree has been shuffled. Among other things, PvP talents such as Endless Winter are closer to the top of the tree where Blood and Unholy death knights can access them.
# Sudden Doom – this talent now procs a Death Coil rather than requiring an additional button click. It works similarly to shamans’ Lightning Overload.
# Magic Suppression and Blood of the North have been reduced to 3 ranks for the same benefit.
# Blood Gorged now grants armor penetration instead of expertise.

Solarflash
02-06-2009, 11:45 AM
* Savage Defense – this is a new passive ability. When a druid in Dire Bear form deals a melee critical strike, the druid gains a damage shield equal to 25% of their attack power. The next hit completely removes the shield regardless of how much damage was done.
* Survival of the Fittest has had its bonus armor reduced to compensate for the above increase in damage mitigation.


Anyone else concerned that we are trading constent mitigation for situational mitigation? So in essense we are losing constent melee mitigation to gain some "on chance" melee/spell mitigation. Have they released any numbers on how much they are nerfing SotF?

windsaber/windriss
02-06-2009, 12:14 PM
I'm so sick of Blizzard nerfing feral tanks, what the hell is with them?
Do they want to not have feral tanks anymore!

tlbj6142
02-06-2009, 12:50 PM
I'm so sick of Blizzard nerfing feral tanks, what the hell is with them?
Do they want to not have feral tanks anymore!The elitist Druids of the wow community love this stuff. And they have asked for it for some time. I really think this change is more customer driven than anything else. I was happy with only 2-3 stats to follow, now I need to watch all of them except int, spr, mp5 and +sp. WTF?!?! That's crazy. But the theory geeks love this and have been "demanding it" for a long time (I first saw this solution mentioned last June/July).

tlbj6142
02-06-2009, 12:51 PM
Have they released any numbers on how much they are nerfing SotF?There is a guess of maybe 20%???

http://wowthinktank.blogspot.com/2009/02/druid-savage-defense-guesses-with-math.html

Goose
02-06-2009, 01:02 PM
savage defense- i don't think it ill be a noticable nerf in current content but even if it is, this ability will scale so much better into t8-t9 content. I heard in BC druids weren't capable pre 3.0 patch of tanking much past gruuls because they armor capped so early. And once again in wotlk i'm already armor capped raid buffed, so having another window for expansion is welcome.