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09-16-2005, 04:14 PM
i am very pleased at how useful we seem to be in yet another bg. i have always felt very powerful in small scale pvp (shamans being the only class i dont feel i can take 1 on 1), which is the level on which most ab battles are fought, and our mobility means we can cover the ground between resource nodes quickly even if we are in combat. we can ninja nodes just like rogues, and a well timed NS + HT after dismounting has been the edge our defenders have needed in my experience already while others attack enemy nodes. i guess i am saying overall - wewt droodz.
i tried bg for the first time last week. ive tried it maybe 15 times now and to me it seems totally out of control, there is no organization whatsoever, grps split up and scatter, there is consequently no mt around, no cc and no dps either, when u need it.
why dont people do in bg what they do in grps - stay together and play as they do normally?
am i the only one who has encountered this problem?
its exactly like playing counterstrike or day of defeat, which, imo, isnt worth it.
09-19-2005, 11:07 AM
Yeah, when I play my friends mage in CTF I play on my OWN.
I just act like I give a damn about the flag early on, and just run around massacring people. Then when it's about time to win/lose I will team with a druid and we will run the flag ourselves!
09-19-2005, 01:24 PM
I love AB. While organization isn't what it could be most times, it's much better than WSG pickup groups I got into. Even in a loss, the bonus honor is very good - since it's based on what resources you've gathered. I think the lowest my team has earned is about 1500 - basically against an organized alliance guild that's on teamspeak/vent.
My favorite run came on Friday, when I held off 4 alliance assaulting the stables for a full minute or 90 seconds before they downed me just as reinforcements arrived. This was only possible because they had no rogues lol. 2 rogues stunlocking = quick death even in bear form at the start.
Thing I hate the most - people not joining the raid. If I could make one improvement to battlegrounds, it would be to force people all into the same raid while in the zone.
09-20-2005, 10:44 AM
if you are fortunate enough to get into a pug with a strong leader, the bg really shines. this "epic-ed out" gnome warrior likes to call the shots when he's in a pug, and he does it very well. he breaks the raid up into several groups, like 4 or 5, and then dishes out commands like "1 and 2 go lm" frequently. things go very smoothly when a single person can take control in ab.
09-20-2005, 11:20 AM
this "epic-ed out" gnome warrior likes to call the shots when he's in a pug, and he does it very well.
Showing my newbness again, but what is a pug. Pick up group? or something else?
09-20-2005, 11:46 AM
pick-up group, you got it. /cheer nub!
09-20-2005, 01:16 PM
What exactly do you do in AB? I thought you had to kill the other team's captain?
09-20-2005, 01:20 PM
killing the other side's general is the ultimate goal of alterac valley (av), not arathi basin (ab). the goal of arathi basin is to gather 2000 resources faster than your opponents' team by controlling any of the 5 resource nodes on the map (15 players max per side).
09-21-2005, 12:27 AM
i have noticed the same thing..the groups always seem to be all over the place and not really going places together, just going to the nearest place they see an enemy. Of course its always going to be hard to invite everyone to the raid grp, sort them out into even groups (few tanks/healers/casters in each) and then give instructions on what each group should do, given that once u join the AB instance u have like what, 2 mins before it starts lol.
It would be awesome to be in a totally organised group, u would smash the other team, even if they are higher levels than u...
i guess theres no real solution tho, just try to join a raid grp on ur first run then hopefully the majority of that grp will keep entering the next battle as a grp, and u get ur **** sorted hehe.
the druids survivability is awesome for AB tho, makes it heaps of fun.
09-21-2005, 01:36 PM
I must be lucky. So far the majority PuG I have ran with have won AB. Usually we manage to get just about everyone into the raid mine 2-3 people. Sometimes though I don't even join the raid but still, with my group we cooperate and it all works out. I went into AB 4 times with 3 other guildmates and rather than join the main raid just formed into our own group, but still cooperated with the current raid leader in the AB instance and held defensive postures on the mines. It was sweet, horde didn't take it from us at all during our 4 AB maps we particpated in. We won those maps also.
And as a Druid I love AB, the small group pvp skirmishes, and defensive tactics really flesh out the people who know their class and the people who don't.
Druids excel at defending.. due to our stealth and overall "hard to kill"-business.
One druid can defend a node long enough to reinforcements to arrive. :)
Remember: They can't take the node if you have a constant moonfire on them.
did anyone have luck stealthing their way to the flags over and over again, gaining resources by soloing? just wondering, coz my pug grps always loose to the horde...
09-26-2005, 10:00 AM
ninjaing nodes is good for morale and a distraction, but not much else. whenever i'm in charge, our side focuses on keeping stables, bs, and lm. being in the center of the board, the blacksmith is almost essential if you want to win, and it is easier to get from the blacksmith to the lumber mill and vice versa than to the gold mine. pugs are pretty much doomed on my server, as most horde groups in ab are guilds. i was in one that won yesterday however, but that was because it had 5 high ranking pvpers in it :) (one was a field marshal!).
09-26-2005, 10:50 AM
Shameless re-direction. I hope this is not against forum rules.
PvP Rank Questions (http://wow.forums.thedruidsgrove.org/showthread.php?p=124098#post124098)
I don't think it's against the rules, but it's probably not needed with the referenced post being right below this one. ;)
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