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Panamah
12-03-2004, 04:21 PM
More quality programming from Fox News (http://mediamatters.org/items/200412010011)

For my Canadian (http://www.sorryeverybody.com/gallery/1/) friends.

Coulter: Canada is "lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent"; Carlson: "Without the U.S., Canada is essentially Honduras"

On November 30, as President Bush visited Canada to meet with Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin in an effort to improve the two countries' strained relations, right-wing pundit Ann Coulter and CNN Crossfire co-host Tucker Carlson ridiculed the United States' northern neighbor. On FOX News Channel's Hannity & Colmes, Coulter said that Canadians "better hope the United States doesn't roll over one night and crush them. They are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent." On CNN's Wolf Blitzer Reports, Carlson stated: "Without the U.S., Canada is essentially Honduras, but colder and much less interesting"; he went on to say that instead of following politics, "the average Canadian is busy dogsledding." And on Crossfire, Carlson referred to the "limpid, flaccid nature of Canadian society."

Canada is the United States' largest trade partner. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, U.S. trade with Canada accounted for a cumulative $38.5 billion dollars in September 2004 alone. Further, as Bush noted in a December 1 speech in Halifax, Nova Scotia, "Canada has taken a series of critical steps to guard against the danger of terrorism." In its country profile of Canada, the U.S. State Department website notes:

The bilateral relationship between the United States and Canada is perhaps the closest and most extensive in the world. It is reflected in the staggering volume of trade--the equivalent of over $1 billion a day in goods, services, and investment income--and people, more than 200 million a year crossing the U.S.-Canadian border. In fields ranging from law enforcement cooperation to environmental cooperation to free trade, the two countries have set the standard by which many other countries measure their own progress.

Below are excerpts from Coulter's and Carlson's Canada-bashing.
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Barklight
12-03-2004, 04:25 PM
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why I no longer watch the News on any television station.

Except the Daily Show. =P

Panamah
12-03-2004, 05:34 PM
Daily show rocks. :) The new anchorman replacing Peter Jennings was on last night. He was hilarious!

Tiane
12-03-2004, 05:51 PM
I turned on the TV just now and Tucker Carlson is busy telling this audience how much Canadians hate America... so glad we have patriotic Americans like him telling you how much everyone hates you... /sigh! /flips channel.

It makes them feel better to bash us. And contrary to their beliefs, Canadians dont spend every day obsessing about the U.S., secretly plotting and hating, etc. Thats all just bull****, it's just sad that people down there will wind up believing it.

But what're we to do? We really are a pretty passive culture (yes, Virginia, there is a Canadian culture) so we do what we always do, just smile and nod at the few silly Americans on the TV, laugh with our American friends and relatives about it. In the mean time we'll just go about our business, and continue the invasion via the Canadian Conspiracy. (Great movie!)

Daily Show does indeed pwn, however! Did you know Samantha Bee was Canadian? 8)

Cantatus
12-03-2004, 09:16 PM
How much does it really matter if Canada does hate US? It's not like we're going to install a trade embargo to force them to agree with us. We need Canada as much as Canada needs us. Stopping trading between our two countries would likely cripple both economies.

vestix
12-03-2004, 09:59 PM
These statements are asinine even by the standards of self-appointed political pundits. Is it sweeps week or something?

Aidon
12-04-2004, 11:00 AM
o/` Blame Canada! Blame Canada! o/`

Remi
12-04-2004, 01:32 PM
I'm sure I can find a similar idiot extremist or two in Canada making stupid statements about the US. Idiots are easy to find and what they say means little more than entertainment. And, sadly, entertainment is what most tv news, cable included, is all about.

Panamah
12-04-2004, 02:13 PM
Sadly Ann Coulter is sort of a celebrity status with the republicans. The Fox News Network has really given a platform and a huge following to folks like her.

Aldarion_Shard
12-04-2004, 03:39 PM
Anne Coulter is our Michael Moore - an extremist so insane they make the party they are supporting look bad. The Agent Smith to your Neo. The Ying to your Yang. The existence of both at once assures a semblance of balance, but of course wed all be better off if neither existed.

Shes funny sometimes, just like he is. Theyd both be fun people to drink a beer with and laugh at their ridiculous notions (just like a friend of mine who sincerely believes that the entire world should get ot vote in US presidental elections - I really like hearing what the insane have to say) - but none of these people should be out in public representing a party or school of thought.

Panamah
12-04-2004, 04:44 PM
I saw F 9/11 and I saw nothing which suggestions that Michael Moore is radical about anything. He thinks the current administration is a bunch of yahoos and the war in Iraq is a big mistake, a position nearly half the country would agree with.

So what about Michael Moore qualifies him to be compared to Anne Coulter? I'm asking because I haven't seen anything but then again, I don't know anything about him except the movie F 9/11.

Anka
12-04-2004, 06:06 PM
So what about Michael Moore qualifies him to be compared to Anne Coulter?

I haven't seen Anne Coulter, but Michael Moore is not objective in presenting information to the public. That in itself is hardly criminal but he uses styles of reporting typically used for objective reporting to present a one-sided message. You cannot trust what Moore says because you do not know how much truth he has ommitted and how much he has sensationalised the topic. He's very successful in bringing major issues to the publics attention, he needs to be credited with that, it's just that by reputation you have to scutinise his reporting far more than some other peoples.

jtoast
12-04-2004, 06:39 PM
Sadly Ann Coulter is sort of a celebrity status with the republicansNo shes not. Most of us(at least everyone I know) agrees with Aldarion in that she's our Michael Moore. Fun to laugh at but not someone to take seriously on any issue more important than choosing between bagel or english muffin for breakfast in the morning.


So what about Michael Moore qualifies him to be compared to Anne Coulter? I'm asking because I haven't seen anything but then again, I don't know anything about him except the movie F 9/11.Michael Moore, to me, is hilarious. He has been caught several times using interviews that never happened (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38632), and tons of other Outright lies (http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/) as "facts" to support his viewpoint/conclusions.

He also Pissed off Ray Bradbury (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38776) by using his title without permission.

"Michael Moore is a screwed a--hole, that is what I think about that case," Bradbury said according to an English translation of the story. "He stole my title and changed the numbers without ever asking me for permission."

Continued the author: "[Moore] is a horrible human being – horrible human!"


He also has said a few other things that caused "issues"
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30367

Moore went into a rant about how the passengers on the Sept. 11 planes were scaredy cats because they were mostly white," Alibhai-Brown writes. "If the passengers had included black men, he claimed, those killers, with their puny bodies and unimpressive small knives, would have been crushed by the dudes, who as we all know take no disrespect from anybody."

Panamah
12-05-2004, 12:20 PM
Ray Bradbury didn't write a book called Farenheit 9/11, it was Farenheit 411.

Moore went into a rant about how the passengers on the Sept. 11 planes were scaredy cats because they were mostly white," Alibhai-Brown writes. "If the passengers had included black men, he claimed, those killers, with their puny bodies and unimpressive small knives, would have been crushed by the dudes, who as we all know take no disrespect from anybody."

If that's true, then yes, that's an outrageous stupid thing to say, certainly equal to Ann Coulter.

jtoast
12-05-2004, 04:08 PM
Ray Bradbury didn't write a book called Farenheit 9/11, it was Farenheit 411. Actually, it was Fahrenheit 451.

Either way, Moore's title is an obvious reference to Bradbury's book about loss of freedoms and manipulating history.

Thicket Tundrabog
12-06-2004, 09:41 AM
Lol... I like having lively debates with intelligent folks of different views. Therefore I would like to say the following about the media trolls that talked about dogsledding, protecting Canada etc.

*silence*

I don't read the National Enquirer either. (Is it still around?)

Thicket

Nimchip
12-06-2004, 10:18 AM
I like canadians.

I'm from Puerto Rico.

:)

Drake09
12-06-2004, 01:37 PM
I don't read the National Enquirer either. (Is it still around?)

Thicket


http://sfstory.free.fr/images/MIB/26.jpg

Time to read the hotsheets.

Truid
12-07-2004, 10:03 AM
I saw F 9/11 and I saw nothing which suggestions that Michael Moore is radical about anything. He thinks the current administration is a bunch of yahoos and the war in Iraq is a big mistake, a position nearly half the country would agree with.

So what about Michael Moore qualifies him to be compared to Anne Coulter? I'm asking because I haven't seen anything but then again, I don't know anything about him except the movie F 9/11.

To get the other sides view, see fahrenhype911.com (http://www.fahrenhype911.com/)