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Fanra
06-30-2005, 09:14 PM
Now I'm not sure how often this has been discussed. I'm sure on this board that it has been talked about dozens of times.

But maybe it should be added to the "Healing Toolkit" on the Top Ten List or not.

In any case, let's discuss it again, unless the Moderators decide it is a dead horse. :deadhorse

I was in Txevu today. The ruiners there cast an AoE when they die. So I'm sitting there casting Pure Blood three times per person to remove it from people. I mention this and the bard there says, "Oh, I just have to cast (or sing) once to cure it" Then another guild member says, "How come a bard can cure in one cast when it takes a priest three times?"

That's when I realized that, once again, druids are on the SOE crap list.

How is a bard able to cure disease better than a priest? (oh, and I don't want bards nerfed, so don't ever mention the bard part to SOE)

We need an upgrade for Pure Blood. Some people have been asking for a group version. I'm not sure if we can or should get a group version. But there is something wrong here.

Vekx
06-30-2005, 11:29 PM
Aye, Txevu and the AE. I was told two casts would do it but it turned out to be 3. Maybe there is a different one which only takes two. But three casts is over kill IMHO.

And I'm not sure but I think I saw an SK say they can group heal it in one cast.

Tudamorf
07-01-2005, 12:01 AM
Fulmination (the "Txevu ruiner AE") is poison-based, not disease, and adds 45 counters. Pure Blood cures 36 counters. Normally, 2 casts of Pure Blood or 1 cast of the cleric Antidote will cure it. There is no need for an upgrade; druids aren't supposed to be experts at curing disease/poison.

Sildan
07-01-2005, 12:17 AM
Fulmination is the devil.
I don't know about other guilds but in our guild we never have a cleric or shaman in every group. Druids heal groups in Txevu and fulmination royally sucks!!

I beleive we need an upgrade to Pure Blood. Not group or any garbage like that but simply more counters cured. 3 casts x6 people is a royal pain in the posterior.

Fenier
07-01-2005, 12:22 AM
Txevu is indoors.

Walls are your friend.

Sildan
07-01-2005, 05:10 AM
Txevu is indoors.

Walls are your friend.

I ask my Rogues to backstap through walls and my Wizards to nuke through em and my Paladins to tank through em. We seem to be having some sort of issue there.

Txevu is also not the only place you need Pure Blood in. Gaze of Anguish (http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=5680&source=Live) is also a severe pain in the butt and it is NOT an indoor zone. There are one or two other DR/PR counter items in Anguish that require 2+ casts each as well.

Fenlayen
07-01-2005, 05:57 AM
A new upgraded pureblood spell would be a nice addition to both the cleric and druid spell lists.

Eiram
07-01-2005, 06:28 AM
I totaly agee with all that we are in need of a more potent form of Pure Blood.

It shouldn't be a groupversion cause this is the Clr field of Honor ;)

In my opinion it should remove about 40 Counters of each. This let us use our resplendent Cure AA first and after this we have to cast once to remove most detrimental spelleffects. I hate it to waste the aa olny to cast two to three times Pure Blood

Fenlayen
07-01-2005, 06:48 AM
I totaly agee with all that we are in need of a more potent form of Pure Blood.

It shouldn't be a groupversion cause this is the Clr field of Honor ;)

In my opinion it should remove about 40 Counters of each. This let us use our resplendent Cure AA first and after this we have to cast once to remove most detrimental spelleffects. I hate it to waste the aa olny to cast two to three times Pure Blood

Only Group cures clerics get are the counters attached to our group heals :) I wish we had pure group cures.

Tejaye
07-01-2005, 09:24 AM
I am lvl 57, is doing the quest for Pure Blood worth it now?
if so.....how hard is it to complete solo at lvl 57?

Karik
07-01-2005, 09:57 AM
Resplendent Cure and one cast of Armguard of Piety http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=28925 and bye bye Fulmination, way better than PureBlood x3

Dari
07-01-2005, 10:48 AM
I totaly agee with all that we are in need of a more potent form of Pure Blood.
It shouldn't be a groupversion cause this is the Clr field of Honor ;)

You mean Shaman.
And yes, we need an upgrade to it. It's totally off balanced that a bard can instantly cure, or a shaman can cast their version 2X or a druid can cast it 12X to cure a group.

InTenSity
07-01-2005, 01:35 PM
Heh, I just got done explaining on an apps thread why he probably had problems curing an AE in anguish. And how utterly annoying and tough it is to be curing, on top of any other jobs we need to do on a raid. Single target cures, when it is necessary to cure an AE or people die is downright annoying. Before anyone who has done that event says to offset Radiant cures, I suppose that is doable, but also cutting it very close.

As far as fulmination goes, there are plenty of walls in Txevu, really no reason people should be hit by it, and if they are let them die lol, I always did.

Tejaye
07-01-2005, 02:30 PM
I just grouped with a nice lvl 70 Warrior who got me 2 Pure Bloods from the Luggalds. Hopefully I could solo the rest of the components at lvl 57. I also got great exp........thanks Naz :)

Nimchip
07-01-2005, 03:36 PM
Tell your dps to hide from Line of Sight or you won't cure them. Melee and people that just afk in Txevu without being out of LoS need to buy a clue.

I would welcome a group heal, but we don't really need it. Fulmination isn't that bad of a dot and can easily be avoided.

The most damaging of the DoTs/AEs in anguish are RGC cureable... well except a certain "mark", which is stupidly easy to cure too since it takes 1 cast and i usually just hold RC6 for it.

The only event i would love a group cure in would be in rogue epic fight ! :p

Matren
07-02-2005, 02:33 PM
Fulmination (the "Txevu ruiner AE") is poison-based, not disease, and adds 45 counters. Pure Blood cures 36 counters. Normally, 2 casts of Pure Blood or 1 cast of the cleric Antidote will cure it. There is no need for an upgrade; druids aren't supposed to be experts at curing disease/poison.

Try again, Pureblood/Blood of Nadox cures 18 counters, thanks for playing.

Fenier
07-02-2005, 03:16 PM
Answer to Txevu AE:

Use Walls.

If walls fail, /tell Cleric Antidote please. - Cures single cast.

Negian
07-04-2005, 12:21 PM
I believe Bards, Clerics and Palladins can all cure this Fulmination junk in 1 cast :( I do find myself only curing in Texvu and it's really a pain! I know druids are master of none and jack of all trades but the curing part we are not a jack in that one~

Rolaque
07-06-2005, 03:22 PM
Part of this is a Raid Leader who understands how much a druid can heal / cure during a given fight, whether it's in Tacvi or Anguish (I don't include Txevu because you can hide from the AEs there). In many situations a druid cannot heal or cure a whole group by himself when there is a lot of AE's or dots. But two druids, or a druid and another healer (non-cleric) can do just fine.

This isn't to say I don't want better cures, but it's how you make the most of what you do have.

Tenielle
07-06-2005, 05:14 PM
I'm at a complete loss as to why counters need to go up in the first place.