View Full Forums : Is Nature Walker's Scimitar Reality for me?


Tejaye
07-03-2005, 09:02 PM
I am lvl 57 and was considering trying to do the epic for Nature Walker's Scimitar since I have at least 4 hours a day to play for the summer.
I was curious if it was possible with the following circumstances:
I play solo or occasionally 2-box with a lvl 66 Mage. Can the lvl 66 Mage be enough for the tough Mobs, or is a group a must for certain encounters?
I am KOS in Qeynos, i killed so many good Qeynos Guards when i was in my lvl 30's that my faction cannot get any worse, i dont know how long it would take to repair.
Are all items needed no-drop....or are some store bought?
Is multi-quested a possibility for some parts?
With 4 hours a day, could I complete it by the end of July? How long did your epics take?

Fenier
07-03-2005, 09:05 PM
Read the Walkthrough and asking very specfic questions would be better then the broad ones you presented here.

The Druid Epic can be done in less then 24 hours, depending on spawns. /Shrug

Tejaye
07-03-2005, 09:16 PM
The Walkthrough just mentions the epic 1.5 and 2.0, is there a walkthrough for the original epic 1.0? Nature Walker's Scimitar.

Lanamien
07-03-2005, 09:22 PM
The Walkthrough just mentions the epic 1.5 and 2.0, is there a walkthrough for the original epic 1.0? Nature Walker's Scimitar.1.0 Walkthrough on here - http://eq.forums.thedruidsgrove.org/showthread.php?t=2050

Nimchip
07-04-2005, 12:09 AM
It's stickied in the quest forums .............

Tejaye
07-04-2005, 01:16 AM
How do folks claim to kill Fay in Timorous Deep fighting as a duo? From what I understand it takes a full group regardless. This must be the hardest part of the Epic Quest.

Fenier
07-04-2005, 01:20 AM
I can solo it. I am on your server. I assure you that it can be done with less then a full group.

Eiram
07-04-2005, 02:51 AM
I knew at least a Monk/Shaman Duo who did the quest for their Druid toon.

They spend something like 20 hours on this quest. FYI this was some time back, both were 65 and partial Elegeard at this time, so i guess a lvl 70 can solo Fay.

If you hit lvl 58 get the lvl 58 CH (Tunares Renewal) and heal the mages Pet im pretty sure you can do it. Ulump Pujik is a good test if you have no problems this this guy you can give Fay a try

Tejaye
07-04-2005, 07:04 AM
OK...after playing EQ on and off since October 1999, I am totally psyched to complete this. I am embarassed that I am only lvl 57 after creating my character in March 2000.
I had a couple fo questions.
Can I get Fay in Timorous Deep killed first? Must I do this Epic Quest in Specific Order?
I heard that Bloddbriar in Greater Fay is rare and needed at the beginning of quest....how do I get that npc to spawn?
Lastly..after I give thr ring to Giz in Kithicor, and the Dark Elf Reaver attacks me, do I kill this Reaver, or do I just run away and leave it. If i kill it , is that bad?
I forgot to ask about East Karana....what basically is the goal in East Karana? Why do folks mention bringing friends to help with Druid npc's?
What exactly am I supposed to do here in EK to complete my part.
How do folks mess up this East Karana part, I hear it gets confusing.

Eridalafar
07-04-2005, 10:22 AM
Fay in Timerous deep can spawn naturaly but it very rae, it is a lot easyier to use the mini quest to summon him.

The Ekarana part is because you have a time limit (30-45 secs) to get what you need.

As last it what the anwser when I have done mine.

Eridalafar

xyu101
07-04-2005, 01:42 PM
Kithicor: there maybe a faction hit: if you kill the dark elf reaver it makes Giz hate you. That means, should you fail the EK part and need to restart the epic quest, you may have trouble dealing with Giz. Besides, at level 57 you are not totally safe to solo the dark elf reaver.

EK part: you need to kill the mob and loot within 1 minute, or the mob depops and you need to restart. To play it safe your tank needs to be within melee range with the mob so that it does not gate. Fail this part you'll need to restart.

Juniper
07-04-2005, 02:25 PM
Tejaye, I am on Cazic also and I can help you out with some parts of it. Look for Juniper or Arkaron.

Tejaye
07-04-2005, 03:01 PM
Thank you Juniper I may have to take you up on that.
I am totally psyched about accomplishing this. I started today and am up to the part where i look for Giz to hand him the ring. I know I have a long way to go.
By the way.....where is the mini-quest details to get Fay in Tim Deep to spawn? I was just curious?

Palarran
07-04-2005, 04:54 PM
On the EK part, I took much longer than a minute (I think) and had no problems. I just made sure I snared and rooted the mobs that would have run to the druid circle.
Of course this was years ago. It's possible the event may have changed slightly since then.

Sildan
07-04-2005, 08:22 PM
Any number of us are willing to come whack Fay for ya.
Just for me, It's gotta be a Sunday night( our night off ) or after 1-2AM EST on another night as we are raiding until then.

BTW it's hit and miss finding me online because my job is a night job.

Tejaye
07-04-2005, 08:43 PM
Cool Sildan, thank you. I have had my druid for 5 years and being only lvl 57 I dont feel I have accomplished anything. This summer i finally have more play time than before. EQ is my main hobby, next to fishing these days, and attaining my epic will really make me feel like a full Druid.
**I forgot to ask....if I mess up the pasr in East Karana, is that the only time I would have to go back and start from the beginning? Or are there parts later on that if I mess up, I would have to go back to the very beginning of the epic quest to start again?
And if I somehow kill the Reaver and dont loot it in time, and I get bad faction with Giz, is there anyway to repair that faction with him?

xyu101
07-04-2005, 10:34 PM
There are 4 sub-quests for the epic, one is the part involving EK, the other 3 are collecting corrupted mob drops in Kunark, Faydwer and Antonica. You should never need to restart the whole quest (If you fail at another step you only need to restart that sub-quest). I think besides EK, the only other place that you can fail is TD, but I'm not sure (have not failed that part yet :)).

Maybe I did not make myself clear last time. The faction hit is on the dark elf popped up in Kithicor after you talk to Giz, not the ones at EK. If Giz does not talk to you, you can MQ it. Ask another druid or ranger to do the first several steps for you (ranger epic starts the same way as druids), then after killing the Reaver you loot the body.

Tejaye
07-04-2005, 11:42 PM
Will the Dark Elf Corruptors try to kill the npc Druidsin EK?
If so...will that mess the whole thing up?

Rainan
07-05-2005, 01:38 AM
Yes and yes/no. They will try to kill them, but if you mess it up and they kill Athele, you just need to wait an hour for her to repop.

Juniper
07-05-2005, 02:49 AM
http://eq.forums.thedruidsgrove.org/showthread.php?t=2050 <--read that, it answers all your questions. :)

One small change, when you talk to the druid in FV, look for her in the old Drolvarg fort where the NPC's from FV were displaced after the war between Firiona Vie and Lanys.

We can do all the corrupted/tainted spawns in an evening probably. Juniper still needs the seahorse actually so we can camp that one in Kedge together.

Tejaye
07-05-2005, 02:50 AM
Is VS in Karnors the hardest part of the epic? I heard that you kill VSR first, then you must wait 24 real hours for VS to spawn, by this time you may not have a group. Plus i heard he is tough.
Is the spawn rate that horrible for VS?

DemonMage
07-05-2005, 03:07 AM
VSR is all a druid needs.

xyu101
07-05-2005, 04:50 AM
VSR in Karnors: In a 3-day cycle, VSR will spawn twice and VS once, all 24 hours apart. So yes, the spawn rate is horrible. However every time you kill VSR he drops TWO task pieces.

I heard it's doable with one group. Bring 3 chanters, a tank and a wiz. The 3 chanters chain-rune your tank so that VSR cannot lifetap him, then wiz nuke him to death.

Fenier
07-05-2005, 05:19 AM
VSR in Karnors: In a 3-day cycle, VSR will spawn twice and VS once, all 24 hours apart. So yes, the spawn rate is horrible. However every time you kill VSR he drops TWO task pieces.

I heard it's doable with one group. Bring 3 chanters, a tank and a wiz. The 3 chanters chain-rune your tank so that VSR cannot lifetap him, then wiz nuke him to death.

VSR is solable if you can take melee damage as a 70 Druid. The Main differerance is he doesn't proc the life tap, he casts it. Anyone with decent MR can avoid his life tap as its MR - 200.

Since the addition of vet rewards, all you need is a tank, infusion of the faithful to bring MR to 500-600 (depending on aa/trials) and a healer.

Tejaye
07-05-2005, 09:18 AM
If I zone into Karnors, will VSR or VS be on track immediately? If not, how far must i travel in for that?
I was asking because I will only try to get a group together once I see one of them is spawned, I didnt want to bring a group of high lvl's doing me a favor unless I know for sure he is up.
If I have to travel into zone to find him on track, will Camo keep me alive?
Since this part of the epic is such a pain, I was considering doing it before i complete the EK part (I finally found Giz in Kith and was usccessful there).

jtoast
07-05-2005, 10:22 AM
Yes you can camo to VSR. I don't remember if you can track him from zone in but I know you can from the moat as I remember camping the left side while I waited for him to respawn once.

Eridalafar
07-05-2005, 10:22 AM
To make Fay to spawn you need to give essence of Froglok (or something like that) that you have get from killing Uulump to a drawf that is on the island with the secret underwater passage in the west of the map. The drawf will give you back the essence and you can re-use it later to resummond Fay (note: the summoned Fay only drop the druid epic piece, no other loot).

For VSR, they are 2 VSR, one that repop 8 hours after tha VS was killed that have the druid epic drop (alway 2 time, don't forget that druid and ranger need them for their epic 1), and another that repop right after that the VS was killed and that don't have the epic drop (may have changed, but I have get this trouble). With a tracking of 75 you need to follow the water at the right side of the entrance and go the farter that you can (without quitting the water). Normaly, most of the mobs are live type ones, but they are some undead in the water (and they can see invis).

Eridalafar

Aluaeia
07-05-2005, 02:49 PM
You can track VS/VSR from zone in if he's wandered up to the big 3 level room, if he's hiding back in the rear part of his wandering cycle, you have to move up to just past the first drawbridge to track him.

Cassea
07-05-2005, 03:26 PM
LOL I'm so old I rem Fey taking 4-5 groups :)

-Cass

P.S. And we failed a few times too LOL

Tejaye
07-06-2005, 03:16 AM
Thanks to Savish and Lildariel I completed the EK part...............i am foraging for Ella's 4 items................what do I do with the Hardened Mixture once completed?
I didnt see anything about what you do with it.
I just found the answer, it is late and i didnt read well.....i am still so psyched :)

Avendesoral
07-06-2005, 03:18 AM
Goddamn you're a moron.

Still.

Tejaye
07-06-2005, 03:39 AM
Avend what seems to be your problem?

voronus
07-06-2005, 05:39 AM
Goddamn you're a moron.

Still.


Less flaming please!

Xexv
07-06-2005, 07:41 AM
It's all in the guide, Tejaye.

xyu101
07-06-2005, 12:44 PM
VSR is solable if you can take melee damage as a 70 Druid. The Main differerance is he doesn't proc the life tap, he casts it. Anyone with decent MR can avoid his life tap as its MR - 200.

Since the addition of vet rewards, all you need is a tank, infusion of the faithful to bring MR to 500-600 (depending on aa/trials) and a healer.

Does that mean -- a 70 dru can solo the whole epic? I heard that Fey has been soloed as well.

Eridalafar
07-06-2005, 01:23 PM
Goddamn you're a moron.

Still.
Na, he isn't, he is nervous and the first epic have a small I don't know factor that make it interesting and this weapon will be used for a long time (he is getting it under level 60).

This quest is in the top 10 best quests in EQ (IMO). And it is interesting to see someone to have some must enthousiame in doing it.

Eridalafar

DemonMage
07-06-2005, 02:46 PM
Does that mean -- a 70 dru can solo the whole epic? I heard that Fey has been soloed as well.

Yes, it was soloable at 65, at least for a time, I'm not sure what changes, if any, have been made to VSR since the GoD era.

noirblood
07-06-2005, 03:33 PM
What kind of hp/ac does one need to take the melee from Ulump, VSR, and Fay? I assume they are all immune to changes in run speed?

Rainan
07-06-2005, 04:13 PM
Ulump is essentially resistant to anything that isn't unresistable, although you can land some stuff like your magic dots. VSR is nothing with decent gear and defensive aas, and Fay is no worse than any other kunark dragon, if you can solo them you can solo the whole epic. They all summon, most likely resistant to changes in run speed, so you have to damage shield tank them and try and land what you can on them. Didn't even answer the question heh. I don't know what particular stuff you'd need, I know that I could do Fay pretty easily with 6800hps and 8200 mana and no more than 1600ac, VSR would be a pushover, and Ulump would just be a hell of a fight being almost totally magic resistant.

Penasi
07-06-2005, 04:24 PM
Originally Posted by Avendesoral
Goddamn you're a moron.

Still.



Chill out man. If he wants a little extra help beyond what the walk through gives - so be it. I am thankful most of us are willing to give him the help he has asked for. If everyone was as antisocial as you what an ugly game EQ would be.

Fenier
07-06-2005, 04:28 PM
Defensive AA is very imporant for Ulump. I soloed it, selfbuffed when I was around 7250 hp selfbuffed. I used a Hammer of Hours, I used a Tash Stick, Magic DoTs. It was a 20 minute fight.

I went back sometime later after DoN and did it again, the DoN snare lands, and it is alot easier.

The shorting of dot cast times, is bound to have made it easier as well.

-Fenier

Tejaye
07-07-2005, 01:06 AM
Thank you for the support my fellow Druids.
One thing is driving me nuts......I visited Kedge Keep for my first time today just to scout out the area since I will be asking high levels for help who havent been there in years as most have told me in game.
I kept getting lost in Kedge, is anyone familiar with it?
When I enter, do I go up or down those holes? I kept hitting dead ends. Is there a simpler way to describe how to travel through Kedge...does Corrupt Seahorse spawn in a specific room with specific npc's? I tried tracking even estrella since i heard its near her room.....but my trackin took me into dead ends.
One last thing.....besides the Tainted, what exactly is the Place Holder to make this Tainted spawn? Or does Tainted spawn on its own?
As for my progress......i waited in Everfrost killing Wooly Mammoths near the Wayfarer Camp and after 1 hour i still had not gotten the Tainted to spawn. Do Wooly Mammoth Calfs need to get killed also?
I had to log for work, im hopin for better luck, i thought Everfrost would be the quick spawn.

Tejaye
07-07-2005, 02:26 AM
I did everfrost...now i just have to recruit the right folks who can do Kedge, alot say its been so long they dont remember.

xyu101
07-07-2005, 03:00 AM
perhaps This will help:

http://forgotten.iguanasoft.com/kedge.htm

Tejaye
07-07-2005, 03:19 AM
Thank you XYU finally a guid that makes sense of the place, still confusing, but at least explainations, thanks again :)

Eiram
07-07-2005, 03:39 AM
I would also give http://www.eqatlas.com/kedgekeepmap.html a trial it isn't as detailed as the link above but i was very used to the optic of these maps :)


To spawn the tainted you simply have to kill seahorses in a row with a little bit luck it spawns on the second wave.

Tejaye
07-07-2005, 11:09 AM
So i have to camp Room #11 the Seahorse Cave? Or are there wanderers?

Penasi
07-07-2005, 12:32 PM
I don't remember there being wanderers. Just keep that cave cleared.

Dari
07-07-2005, 12:39 PM
Pen's right. Just keep killing the seahorses in that room and eventually (hopefully sooner rather than later) the tainted will spawn. On very rare occassion I heard that sometimes the tainted does not spawn the corrupt, but I've never actually seen that happen. Good luck!

xyu101
07-07-2005, 01:16 PM
Bring a druid who has Dire Charm. I think a seahorse is DC-able, and the pet can heal itself?

Juniper
07-07-2005, 01:23 PM
Hey Tej, see you when you finish work today. We'll hit some corrupted and see about the froglok in SoNH.

Tejaye
07-07-2005, 09:41 PM
Awesome!!

Kytelae
07-08-2005, 08:42 PM
Good luck on getting your epic! It's a wonderful moment in any druid's life.

Aluaeia
07-08-2005, 09:00 PM
The reason Aveyn called Tejaye a moron (and I agree) is that he posts about 10 questions a week about EQ, usually things that could be found in 30 seconds using "Search" or perhaps "Google".

Seriously. 95% of Tejaye's posts are inane questions, or responses to his own questions (usually with followup questions).

It boggles the mind.

xyu101
07-08-2005, 09:19 PM
He's not the smartest, but I've seen students a lot worse than him. At least he asked the right questions and stated them clearly. Some of my students can not even do that. I sometimes need to spend a lot of time trying to figure out what their questions are! Hence, he does not meed the standard of 'moron' :)

Tejaye
07-09-2005, 03:19 AM
The only unclear part is about Venril Sathir in Karnors Castle. I read conflicting things on eqatlas.
Do you turn in Globe of Fireflies and the Ressurection spell to VSR and then VS spawns 24 hours later and u kill VS?
They mentioned something about VS having a spirit spawn, do u do a turn in with the spirit?
Or do you just kill VSR and wait 24 hours to kill VS.
Who drops the stones we need? VS or VSR?
Can anyone clear this up.
If there is a turn in, doesnt VSR try to attack you? So how do you turn in the Globe and the spell while being attacked?

Aluaeia
07-09-2005, 03:24 AM
http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=6365

LEARN HOW TO USE ALLAKHAZAM.

Fenier
07-09-2005, 05:10 AM
Post Written in Most non confusing way possiable:

VSR = Skelly, Indifferant
Give Globe to VSR, VSR Despawns Spirit spawns
Spririt of VSR - Ghost, Indifferant
Give Rez Scroll to Ghost, Spirit Despawns, VS Spawns
VS = Iskar = Kill For Stone

-Fenier

Dari
07-09-2005, 10:14 AM
Tejaye, I'm glad you're excited and I understand you're nervous about this. But why not try a little reading and research instead of wanting everyone to spoon feed you each step? It's all in TDG and Alla's if you would just take the time to look, read and comprehend.

Tejaye
07-09-2005, 01:26 PM
Alu...the following was from your link from the Alla website. It does NOT say to hand globe to VSR, then hand scroll to VSR Ghost....then kill VS. Conflicting opinions were given under VSR and VS, thus my confusion.
FENIER cleared it up, thank you :)
Alu...the following is a cut and paste from Alla website you linked and is different than what I was told:
************************************************** *******
Venril Sathir's Remains
Undead
This large skeleton is non-agressive, and apprears only when Venril Sathir is killed.
If a druid hands him a Globe of Fireflies then the 49 Cleric spell Resurrection he respawns into a lower level Venril Sathir that drops 2 stones, 1 of which is needed for the epic quest.
************************************************** *******
<Thus it does NOT say to hand scroll to ghost>
Sorry if I have been such a bother.

Sildan
07-09-2005, 02:03 PM
Heya Tejay,

I know it can be rough and confusing and I think folks are just trying to help you learn how to figure these things out. Perhaps I can assist....

When I did my epic I was clueless. EQDruids had an AWESOME epic guide that walked me through everything. Down the left side of the page is a link to each step and the Venril Sathir thing is pretty clearly explained. Check it out HERE (http://eqdruids.com/epic_quests/eqdruid_epic.htm) bud. I think it might shed some light on stuff for you :)

Tejaye
07-09-2005, 02:06 PM
Thank you Sildan :)

Fenier
07-09-2005, 11:33 PM
I was clueless.

You speak as if its past tense ;p

Sildan
07-10-2005, 03:28 AM
You speak as if its past tense ;p

If I had a clue, I think I should be offendeed by that

/cackle :moon:

Fenier
07-10-2005, 10:51 AM
N00b Moderator

Do we really need futher comment? ;)

Its k Sildan you can't escape me ;p

Lanos
07-11-2005, 04:53 PM
Fay is easy..i did him for friend..62dru 65 monk can duo him easy

Tejaye
07-12-2005, 02:40 AM
Juniper thank you for everything, it is special people like you who keep EQ great :)

Juniper
07-12-2005, 02:42 AM
Grats Tejaye on your -

Froggy kill
EJ mob
Kedge mob (spawn was up when we zoned in, lucky)!

Go get some sleep, I'll work on Venril Sathir.

Tejaye
07-18-2005, 07:16 PM
Just an update on my Epic, I wanted to thank those of you who have helped me along the way and had patience, even when I was annoying. I didn't complete it yet, I have all the spawns killed, but I just need to talk to the various npc's, do a few combines and turn-ins. I realized I am either KOS or Dubious to Kaladim Guards (I was bad during the BB days and killed all Dwarfs not just the ones in huts) so to hand in the Jade Reaver to that named Dwarf NPC being KOS I must do the Crushbone Belt quest for a while.
I wanted to give a very heart felt special thanks to Juniper. I met her on this message board, she has taken time out to help me kill the Corrupted Spawns, with the Seahorse being very hard and finally she had Fay killed for me last night. I owe this all to her and it shows that there are special people behind their character willing to go above and beyond for each other. EQ brings it out in some folks and Juniper is the perfect example of how some folks are willing to go the extra mile for others, without asking anything in return.
Thank you Juniper and thank you my fellow Druids for being understanding.
Now it is off to the newbie grounds for some Crushbone Belts.

Eiram
07-20-2005, 03:14 AM
Grats so far :) I found it never annoying, i had all the same questions and fears way back in my low 50s. But i had no Board where i could get advice :(

Tejaye
07-20-2005, 10:13 AM
It is so ironic, after all this , it is a newbie batwing quest holding me up since the High Elf in Timorous deep says I am not worthy of getting his bowl yet. SOE can make this game Ironic....welll it is time to get some batwings :)
I think this must have happened to the majority of wood elf druids or tunare.

Tallarain
07-20-2005, 12:55 PM
Thank you Juniper I may have to take you up on that.
I am totally psyched about accomplishing this. I started today and am up to the part where i look for Giz to hand him the ring. I know I have a long way to go.
By the way.....where is the mini-quest details to get Fay in Tim Deep to spawn? I was just curious?

Once you kill Ulump in SoNH you will have the trigger for Fay in the Hidden Oasis...Once you have a few 60+ folks to help you..Fadedar becomes a wuss to kill.
Have fun and good luck pursuing the Scimitar :wavey:

Eiram
07-21-2005, 03:05 AM
there are more than one vendor now selling unlimitet stacks of batwings, the vendor i usualy buy batwings when i need some is in EC near the zoneline to WC in one of the huts ;)

Oaksire
08-20-2005, 08:53 PM
I think you should have no problem. I left a small guild and didn't start my epic until lv 61, 50ish AA's. It took me a month to complete. I would bind near spawn points and pop in and kill place holders when I could. I soloed what I could and my new guild helped when I needed it. So I think with patience it is easily doable. Just use POK or other ports to get around and bind where you need to kill mobs for epic. Sometimes i would only have 30 mins and would get lucky and corrupted would spawn. I have also had higher level toons in the zone offer their help. Do what you can , when you can, still doable. Good luck.

Lobenderbaum
09-09-2005, 10:26 PM
is there any level restriction for starting this quest? if so what is it?

Nimchip
09-10-2005, 04:09 PM
I believe lvl 46, and to complete it you need lvl 51. I think those were the levels, but it's been so long so I might be wrong.

Palarran
09-10-2005, 05:56 PM
You can do some parts of the quest at any level. It's just talking to certain quest NPCs that has a level restriction, I think.