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Stormhaven
08-11-2005, 02:12 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/11/census.minorities.ap/index.html
Census: Texas newest state to have non-white majority
Thursday, August 11, 2005; Posted: 1:07 p.m. EDT (17:07 GMT)

EL PASO, Texas (AP) -- Texas has become the fourth state to have a non-white majority population, the U.S. Census Bureau said Thursday, a trend driven by a surging number of Latinos moving to the state.

According to the population estimates based on the 2000 Census, about 50.2 percent of Texans are now minorities. In the 2000 Census, minorities made up about 47 percent of the population in the second-largest state.

Texas joins California, New Mexico and Hawaii as states with majority-minority populations -- with Latinos the largest group in every state but Hawaii, where it is Asian-Americans.

Five other states -- Maryland, Mississippi, Georgia, New York and Arizona -- aren't far behind, with about 40 percent minorities.
Not too surprising, but I'm sure it'll ruffle a few feathers of friends I've got down there still ;) I'm also assuming that since these are Census figures, these are legal aliens rather than border jumpers.

Remi
08-11-2005, 02:59 PM
It's inevitable that this decrease in white population will occur everywhere if my understanding of how they determine white vs other race status is correct. That is, any child of white + other parents = other (i.e. minority). Thus, as there are more interracial children, the white race (and its recessive genes) will eventually disappear. I think I know the history of this, which was blatantly discriminatory, and I think the inevitable effect is rather ironic.

I wonder when Anglo Americans (is that the politically correct term?!?) will start being considered a minority and protected by the ACLU? :p

B_Delacroix
08-11-2005, 03:06 PM
The answer to that ACLU question is never.

However, I like to consider that every American Citizen, regardless of country of origin, is exactly that. An American Citizen subject to the rights and laws of this country. No need for a seperate set of rights for poor, minorities, gays or any other such artificial divisions. So in that view, who cares who if there are more "minorities".

I am all for keeping things as simple as possible. A process which, ironically enough, isn't simple to implement.

Alwind.Siafu
08-11-2005, 03:14 PM
I wonder when Anglo Americans (is that the politically correct term?!?) will start being considered a minority and protected by the ACLU? :p

You hit the nail on the head with that statement. However, it's never going to happen. Never!

My brother is a Fireman here in Michigan where I reside. He applied to a Station in a very upstanding community. There were roughly 700 applicants. The city was taking on four new fireman. My brother had five years experience, finished 2nd in the written examination and 5th in the physical exam. He was not taken. There was an African American who made it with no experience, finished 104th in the written and 86th in the physical exam. There was also a woman who made it with similar statistics. Can somebody give me a good reason why my brother was passed up? Affirmative Action? Bah. I hope we'll be seeing some of those benefits minorities receive when we become the minority.

Panamah
08-11-2005, 03:16 PM
As a quick aside, I was talking to a friend who grew up in France. Apparently France doesn't keep race statistics so they claim they have no racial discrimination (or gender for that matter). :p

Alwind.Siafu
08-11-2005, 03:55 PM
I'm all for the best person for the job receiving the job. I personally dont want somebody not capable of dragging me out of a burning house to respond if my house ever catches fire. When an individual happens to parish for this reason, what is a good excuse to give the family. "I'm sorry Mr or Mrs so and so, your family member died becaused we needed to hire someone in order to adhere to goverment hiring guidelines".

Alwind Siafu

Sunglo
08-11-2005, 04:28 PM
Question is - why does the U.S. keep race statistics?

Other than to establish race based quota's that is . . .

Panamah
08-11-2005, 05:38 PM
Because its too easy to ignore discrimination if you don't.

Sunglo
08-11-2005, 05:59 PM
Because its too easy to ignore discrimination if you don't.

Please explain how race statistics raise the profile of discrimination.

Anka
08-11-2005, 07:57 PM
Even when institutions are trying to practice equal opportunity, we know that on a personal level there is still discrimination. Race statistics show the extent of the problem and where measures need to be taken. There will hopefully be a time when we don't need to measure race statistics, but we're not there yet.

Aidon
08-11-2005, 08:52 PM
The only minority which deserves special treatment, anymore, in America are Native Americans. We ****ed them, but good, and keep on ****ing em.

Panamah
08-11-2005, 09:25 PM
In my state we send our gamblers to them to be fleeced.

Tudamorf
08-12-2005, 01:51 AM
Please explain how race statistics raise the profile of discrimination.They highlight inconsistencies between the % of race X in the general population versus the % of race X in some smaller category (high level jobs, high income levels, etc.). A discrepancy might be caused in whole or in part by discrimination.
The only minority which deserves special treatment, anymore, in America are Native Americans. We ****ed them, but good, and keep on ****ing em.I think the current generation has a decent deal going, when you compare them to any other conquered population over 200 years after the fact. They actually still have a shred of autonomy.

B_Delacroix
08-12-2005, 08:38 AM
As a quick aside, I was talking to a friend who grew up in France. Apparently France doesn't keep race statistics so they claim they have no racial discrimination (or gender for that matter). :p

I would tend to agree with not keeping statistics. It seems to serve no other purpose but to be used as a devisive tool.

There are a segment of people who are racist and will be no matter what you do. There are also just as many who live to be offended or to seek a cause. Keeping such statistics cater to the later.

Panamah
08-12-2005, 10:03 AM
here are a segment of people who are racist and will be no matter what you do.

I'm glad my Dad didn't think that way. He could have said that and shrugged his shoulders in the 1960's and not risked anything. Complacency about it all just opens the doorway to reinvite racism back as a social norm.

B_Delacroix
08-13-2005, 04:56 PM
I'm glad my Dad didn't think that way. He could have said that and shrugged his shoulders in the 1960's and not risked anything. Complacency about it all just opens the doorway to reinvite racism back as a social norm.

I realize you and I disagree on a great many things but I in no way sit on my laurels and give up.

You know very little about me, yet chose to attack me on this for no reason I can assertain.

If it was not your intention, as I am sure you may come back and say, then perhaps a review of your message directly quoting me should be reexamined in a new light.

I wouldn't sit by while someone was being attacked for racial reasons any more than I would hope someone else wouldn't. Yet, you imply that I would.

Yes, this message hits a nerve because inaction because of complacancy is one of my pet peeves and I do not appreciate being accused of it even if indirectly.

Panamah
08-13-2005, 05:58 PM
I think the statistics are useful in finding trends like racism or sexism. They're a proactive way to find out if it is happening. I'm glad to hear you would defend it if you saw it happening openly, but I think racism is a little more subtle than you imagine.

Galain
08-13-2005, 09:05 PM
I think the statistics are useful in finding trends like racism or sexism.

They would be useful if they were used as a flag to start an indepth investigation of why there is a discrepancy instead of using it as absolute proof that it is because of discrimination. Pretty weak argument to say there should be an exact correlation of race/sex percentages in the workplace as there is in the population.

Also, I am curious how consistent you are as a crusader against discrimination. Is it wrong to set lower (or higher) standards for specific demographic groups?