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Kessel Icewind
11-10-2002, 07:24 AM
Wizard AE dd's vs Druid ones (http://pub140.ezboard.com/fgraffeswizardcompilationfrm1.showMessage?topicID= 22820.topic)

Not that I quad anyways but another reason wizards seem to hate us

Scirocco
11-10-2002, 11:53 AM
Not much point to saying anything beyond what Rombus said:

This has been brought up like 8 times over the past month. You shouldn't complain when it's clear that you don't understand the facts.

- Pillar of Flame (and even Pillar of Lightning / Pillar of Frost) is still more efficient than Karana's Rage.

- Cast time on their pillar is 7 seconds vs. 4.5 on ours.

- Our Pillars (like all of our spells) have a -10 resist mod... theirs does not.

- We have a good pillar for every resist... they do not.

- Karana's Rage can ONLY be used outdoors.

- Karana's Rage has a smaller area of effect than ours (10 vs. 15)

If you're still skeptical, here's numbers...

(L57) Pillar of Flame - 10.5 d/m
(L54) Pillar of Lightning - 9.9 d/m
(L51) Pillar of Frost - 9.8 d/m
(L62) Karana's Rage - 9.8 d/m

If you haven't figured it out by now, quad kiting is more about efficiency than damage. If we got a spell identical to Karana's Rage I'd still use (as I'm sure most Wizards would) Pillar of Flame over it without even looking twice. 7 sec cast time is "teh suck."

Edit: Oh, and don't forget that a lot of Druids are specialized in Alteration instead of Evocation. That makes this spell way less efficient for them.

Moving this thread to class balance....

Role Meggido
11-10-2002, 05:43 PM
Yeah, Rom made the point well. We do have Fire and Ice, but those spells are purely awful.