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Panamah
02-01-2006, 05:46 PM
A rather ascerbic and funny review of the SUA last night.

http://www.slate.com/id/2135236/

Admittedly, the State of the Union address has become a tedious ritual. According to calcified habit, presidents must begin by describing the country's condition as "strong," go on to point out the American "heroes" planted in the House gallery, and flit lightly over dozens of disparate topics between pauses for theatrical applause. This year's pandering nadir came during the brief passage on bioethics, when George Bush called for legislation banning the creation of "human-animal hybrids." In Washington, there is a lobby for everything except apparently mermaids and centaurs.

Fyyr Lu'Storm
02-01-2006, 07:00 PM
I told you the Chinese were making chimera the other day.


And I wanted my own monkey boy.






I hate Bush!

Anka
02-01-2006, 07:48 PM
I'd vote with George on the chimeras.

He's winding up the rhetoric on Iran now. Plenty of it wasn't strictly true as well. He just used the same buzzwords and spin as he used for Iraq. Presumably they'll work again.

Panamah
02-01-2006, 10:28 PM
Kind of funny... nature makes its own chimeras without the help of man. I wonder how Bush will try to regulate them?

Aidon
02-02-2006, 12:26 PM
I'd vote with George on the chimeras.

He's winding up the rhetoric on Iran now. Plenty of it wasn't strictly true as well. He just used the same buzzwords and spin as he used for Iraq. Presumably they'll work again.


Except, with Iran its for real heh. Everything Bush said about Iraq should have been made for the case against going to war against Iran. Iraq was never a threat.

Panamah
02-02-2006, 12:36 PM
OMGZ0RZ! Its too late!
http://imageserver1.textamerica.com/user.images.x/50/IMG_380550/_1009/TZ20100910114007.jpg

Aidon
02-02-2006, 12:40 PM
pardon me while I go bleach my eyes

Anka
02-02-2006, 01:34 PM
Lets see what Bush said about Iran.

Democracies in the Middle East will not look like our own, because they will reflect the traditions of their own citizens. Yet liberty is the future of every nation in the Middle East, because liberty is the right and hope of all humanity.

So Bush will like the Iranian style of democracy then, which absolutely exemplifies the traditions of its own citizens. Maybe not.

The same is true of Iran, a nation now held hostage by a small clerical elite that is isolating and repressing its people.

Really? I suspect the Iranian government is moderately popular within it's own country. It probably has an approval rating higher than a certain other ruling elite.

The regime in that country sponsors terrorists in the Palestinian territories and in Lebanon -- and that must come to an end.[ (Applause.) The Iranian government is defying the world with its nuclear ambitions, and the nations of the world must not permit the Iranian regime to gain nuclear weapons. (Applause.) America will continue to rally the world to confront these threats.

Fair comment.

Tonight, let me speak directly to the citizens of Iran: America respects you, and we respect your country. We respect your right to choose your own future and win your own freedom. And our nation hopes one day to be the closest of friends with a free and democratic Iran. (Applause.)

If the US respects the right of Iranians to choose their own future and win their own freedom then they would let the democratically elected Iranian president make his nuclear weapons. I'm sure that's an exceptionally popular policy with Iranians. If you look at what Bush said, it's just a series of glib populist nonsense that is absolute patronising twaddle.

Panamah
02-02-2006, 02:11 PM
If you look at what Bush said, it's just a series of glib populist nonsense that is absolute patronising twaddle.
If you string enough slogans together they make a speech.

Aidon
02-02-2006, 03:10 PM
Lets see what Bush said about Iran.



So Bush will like the Iranian style of democracy then, which absolutely exemplifies the traditions of its own citizens. Maybe not.



Really? I suspect the Iranian government is moderately popular within it's own country. It probably has an approval rating higher than a certain other ruling elite.



Fair comment.



If the US respects the right of Iranians to choose their own future and win their own freedom then they would let the democratically elected Iranian president make his nuclear weapons. I'm sure that's an exceptionally popular policy with Iranians. If you look at what Bush said, it's just a series of glib populist nonsense that is absolute patronising twaddle.

And if you look between the lines of the sugar sweetness that speeches must be, it essentially says "If you don't stop making nukes, we're going to bring the hammer", which is exactly what he's trying to say.

Anka
02-02-2006, 05:58 PM
And if you look between the lines of the sugar sweetness that speeches must be, it essentially says "If you don't stop making nukes, we're going to bring the hammer", which is exactly what he's trying to say.

Well that's what he can say. It's what he should say. The way that he generates nationalistic feelings against foreign nations is insidious.

Panamah
02-02-2006, 10:22 PM
Aidon, you'll really enjoy the Daily Show's coverage of the state of the union. http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_daily_show/videos/headlines/index.jhtml

Fyyr Lu'Storm
02-02-2006, 10:35 PM
Aidon, you'll really enjoy the Daily Show's coverage of the state of the union. http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_daily_show/videos/headlines/index.jhtml


I think the links are broken.

I click on the video link, but it just pops up a window which does nothing but sits there(it keeps showing a guy in a restroom snapshotting his wang).

Panamah
02-02-2006, 10:39 PM
Click on the State of the Union address.

Aidon
02-03-2006, 03:01 AM
Funny stuff!

The look where boners go to die /tearwipe

Panamah
02-03-2006, 10:22 AM
I liked how they zoomed in on Leiberman when they were talking about Israel/Palestine. :p "Find the jew in the audience!"

Aidon
02-03-2006, 10:28 AM
Heh, he's just the most readily identifiable yid to the american public. There were plenty others to choose from!

Panamah
02-03-2006, 07:48 PM
Ok, Factcheck.org is having a field day with the SOTU:
http://factcheck.org/article376.html

Here's a snippet
Misstatement of the Union

The President burnishes the State of the Union through selective facts and strategic omissions.

February 1, 2006

Modified: February 3, 2006

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Summary



The President left out a few things when surveying the State of the Union:

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He proudly spoke of "writing a new chapter in the story of self-government" in Iraq and Afghanistan and said the number of democracies in the world is growing. He failed to mention that neither Iraq nor Afghanistan yet qualify as democracies according to the very group whose statistics he cited.
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Bush called for Congress to pass a line-item veto, failing to mention that the Supreme Court struck down a line-item veto as unconstitutional in 1998. Bills now in Congress would propose a Constitutional amendment, but none have shown signs of life.
*
The President said the economy gained 4.6 million jobs in the past two-and-a-half years, failing to note that it had lost 2.6 million jobs in his first two-and-a-half years in office. The net gain since Bush took office is just a little more than 2 million.
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He talked of cutting spending, but only "non-security discretionary spending." Actually, total federal spending has increased 42 percent since Bush took office.
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He spoke of being "on track" to cut the federal deficit in half by 2009. But the deficit is increasing this year, and according to the Congressional Budget Office it will decline by considerably less than half even if Bush's tax cuts are allowed to lapse.
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Bush spoke of a "goal" of cutting dependence on Middle Eastern oil, failing to mention that US dependence on imported oil and petroleum products increased substantially during his first five years in office, reaching 60 per cent of consumption last year.

Panamah
02-03-2006, 11:52 PM
LOL! Aidon, you gotta see this one. Apparently the House Republicans, trying to restore credibility to their party in Congress post DeLay, decided to cast ballots today for his replacement and there were MORE ballots cast than republican there...
Whites Collared (http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_daily_show/videos/headlines/index.jhtml) The bit about Enron is funny too.