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03-11-2006, 01:53 AM
Maybe I am alone on this, but I would really like to see them bring back Wolf Form for druids.

Not the new "I look like a level 1 Black Wolf" form, but the old, red eyed spirit wolf that I know many of us old School Druids absolutely loved having. Sure we couldn't look like we were sitting, but we looked different. In those days, seeing someone in Wolf form, was usually the sign of a "high level" (at the time) Druid.

The attack bonus is really not useful to Druids. Mana regen on Form of the Howler was a nice idea, but it doesn't stack with the Mask line so it's pretty much useless.

All in all, Wolf form was a unique Druid (and ranger) spell line, that just sort of died. Rangers still get some use out of it, but for Druid's it is pointless.

What about making a high end spell, or AA ability, that would bring back that old Spirit wolf form, and allow it to give some sort of mana gain proc, similar to the Greatstaff of Power.

Since we couldn't mount while in Wolf Form, the mana gain proc wouldn't really give us much over mounting. We would be able to more easily cancel spells, but as a downside, we would have to be in melee range/meleeing at all times, which is bad in some cases. I think it would be fairly balanced with mounting, but would give druids an actual reason to use wolf form in some situations. Could also bring back some of the faction changes with Wolf Form, allow it to make us non KoS to all animals? Not a massive change really, just something to give us a reason to use it, if only situational.

Just a thought, from an old druid trying to bring back a spell line that should never have died, much like Firefist.. don't get me started on that pointless waste of spellbook space ;)

03-11-2006, 02:07 AM
Form of the Hunter is actually a bit faster than Flight of Eagles (75% vs 65%), so I wouldn't say wolf form is entirely useless. I frequently use it when I expect to be kiting outdoors.

03-11-2006, 02:15 AM
An entire spell line for 10% bonus to speed is a little foolish, besides, it currently adds an attack bonus.. which is pretty pointless if the only use of the spell is for kiting ;)

03-11-2006, 04:04 AM
I've posted here quite a few times where I complained how Sony destroyed wolf form for no reason.

Good luck getting anyone at Sony to care about wolf form. I made an entire list of ways to fix it (with help from a number of people here). They have ignored me, so if you get them to notice you, my best wishes to you.

You see, being a wolf was fun, and we can't have that in EQ.

03-11-2006, 12:20 PM
I always liked my wolf form. The major downside now is that you can't use a mount. However, if they made a new wolf form that came with some mana regen and wouldn't let you sit, that would be cool. It of course would have to stack with the mask line or at least be more mana than the mask line gives.

I always thought it was a nice bit of balance between shammies and druids. Shammies turn into bears and summon wolves. Druids turn into wolves and summon bears.

At the very least, I'd like to see an upgraded wolf form that lets me keep up with people who get the ssra/100k/etc horses. Even if it's self only. Not many people want to be wolves anyways. The atk bonus is nice, but the graphics can mess with you if you're attacking.

An interesting graphic would be nice, to distinguish it from the existing wolf forms.

03-20-2006, 01:22 PM
Seeing how wolf form seems to be kos in all por zones, I really don't think they give a crap.

03-20-2006, 06:59 PM
Seeing how wolf form seems to be kos in all por zones, I really don't think they give a crap.
Wolf form is KOS in almost every zone in the entire game, not just PoR zones.

It is dead and Sony killed it deliberately for no reason and has ignored any attempts to talk about it.

"We can't have something fun in EQ, kill off wolf form." - Sony

03-24-2006, 01:26 AM
An indoor wolf form (with a new and unique model of course), that didn't stack with mask, but provided the same magnification, seeinvis, +8 mana regen (5 more than mask), along with giving speed that matches run8, would be pretty cool.

It would be totally worthless in outdoor zones, because it wouldn't stack with a horse, and why would anyone bother losing 17 mana per tick when they could just sit on a horse and have mask of the wild on instead.

03-24-2006, 02:30 AM
I don't think run 8 would be a reality. This is a monk trait.

03-24-2006, 03:27 AM
Bard too, I think. :P

03-24-2006, 09:24 AM
Yes, Bard too.

03-25-2006, 11:32 AM
Yes, imagining a person who is at one with the animals of the world, which has fast moving animals like cheetahs and road runners, could run as fast as a human who studies kung fu or singing is totally ridiculous. :)

03-25-2006, 02:27 PM
I agree. Druids have historically been faster than monks. I don't see any reason why a new wolf form wouldn't be the same. Isn't our fastest wolf form already faster than run8 anyways? I seem to recall run8 being around 72% increase and our level 60 wolf form maxxes out at 75% (at level 70).

Menien Mayhem
04-03-2006, 02:36 PM
I would like to see a new AA to train such as "innate wolform" much like innate camo is now. It would need to be as good or better than Form of the Hunter, and I wouldnt mind it remaining outdoor only.

04-05-2006, 10:57 PM
Screw Wolf form, I want a useful TREE FORM baby!

A druid in new tree form could add a slight mana/endurance regen aura for the group (like 5-8). Tree form would severely snare us, but we could move some like treants. And make it so it doesn't stack with our hp regen aura line for balance. Would be either/or, whatever is needed most. And we'd take a hit in FR too, lol.

04-06-2006, 04:41 PM
Wolf form and treeform were just plain fun spells.

I remember casting treeform and lev and then spinning in circles while I cast my self buffs way back when to look like a decorated Christmas tree. :D

Thats one of the reasons it's so hard for me to come back to the game...all the just plain fun stuff is gone.

04-07-2006, 05:19 AM
Oh you can still cast treeform..

I did it in Theatre of Blood. Illusion didn't take hold, but root did. So I was sitting on my horse, rooted, with no illusion and got no fcking clue why I can't move. The spell effect icon was similar to some other stuff and between other buffs, so I didn't notice it for a while.. almost evaced.

ToB got some more fun stuff... some mob ported us on random to ocean. So when I was moved to underwater while mounted and swam back up I couldn't get on mount again because "you are alread mounted".. and I could not /dismount because.. well, dunno, it didn't work. Evac helped.

04-07-2006, 01:52 PM
Usable wolf or tree form would be great, but would have to stack with Mask of the forest or be MUCH greater mana regen.

04-14-2006, 02:16 PM
I'd personally like to see the treeform illusion be able to be seen in more zones. You can't even get the illusion to stick in PoK =S Would be just for fun though =)

04-15-2006, 06:34 PM
Mostly I would just like to see some spell/buff ideas that went beyond Stat Buffs or HP/Mana regen.

Wolf form can add much more than just run speed or mana regen, and it should. I would mostly just like to see Druids actually become druids again, and not just inefficient wizards/clerics.

04-24-2006, 06:09 AM
MGB Wolf Form in The Bazaar. Oh the good old days :)
I know SOE said they nerfed Wolf Form so that you can't cast it on people that are out of group, I disagree. It works just fine. I've often MGB'ed Wolf Form at main bank in PoK just for the fun of it, works just fine :)

I still use Wolf Form on people when they're melee characters, and being PLed, since it's more ATK along with higher run speed.

04-24-2006, 07:58 AM
I would love to see a new useful wolf form in game. It used to be so much fun to run around in wolf form. /sigh. Sony has to take the fun out of everything.