In his own words:
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Thought I'd share this rant with all you Veterans - It kills me when
idiots don't do their homework...

Greetings Mr. White,

I felt it necessary to follow up to a recent story that was published in Cincinnati Post. It was the 1 in 3 believe 9-11 conspiracy theory. I must admit that at first I was overwhelmed with joy that our local paper was actually starting to have real journalism and talk about real issues. Then I read the story and it was a total
debunk to make the actual people around the world who feel there was
something not right about 9-11, to look like over reacting conspiracy theorists.

Im utterly outraged. My 9 year old daughter could have done more research in this, as opposed to just trying to throw the publics ideas and feelings out. Is this not what journalism is supposed to represent - real issues? There have been many, many polls done in major cities that actually ask people how they felt about the 9-11 tragedy. One such poll is called the Zogby poll; which was offered in New York City.

Honestly I could care less what is done with this letter, but I feel that I should speak my mind and Ill tell you some things that I have not told many people at all. From 1995 till 2002 I was a Sergeant in the United States Army. Not only this, but I was stationed at United States Central Command, which is located at MacDill AFB in Tampa Florida. I was on active duty when 9-11 happened. In the days prior to the tragedies, we were involved in many exercises. Some of these exercises included the scenarios of hijacked planes crashing into, our building the world trade center, the White House, Sears Tower, and the Pentagon. These drills or exercises as we called them, where classified Top Secret. Having a Top Secret rated clearance I was
dumbfounded that they would ever push a training exercise above the level of Secret. Over my 8 years in the Army, I had participated in many exercises around the world, none of which were ever classified over the Secret level.

Ill start by saying a few months prior it was announced by President Bush that Dick Cheney would be heading up operations over NORAD our North American Aerospace Defense Command. Along with many of my peers, we were shocked. Over the years, if you research NORAD, it has always been under the command of a Military officer. It was done this way because the defense of this country has always been in the hands of such. Prior to the months before 9-11 this was all of the sudden changed. Like I said, if you research NORAD and the command structure you will find that it was imposed long ago that the military should be in control of the order to scramble planes in the defense of American air space. For some strange reason, Bush changed this and gave that power to a civilian person on his Staff team yes I know, very interesting.

Back to the morning of 9-11; the command was busy with this training exercise. We were instructed to bring all our gear in to prep for a mock (staged) deployment to the Middle East. On the morning of 9-11 I had been on base prepped and ready to go since about 0400am. During my time at the base that morning, they were setting up barriers around the command and placing gun posts on the roofs. When I questioned one of the security officers about the machine gun and shoulder fired
rockets on the roof I was given the answer its a precaution for a plane attempting to crash into this building.

So, I was standing in the SCIF (Secure Compartmented Information
Facility), which is basically this underground bunker command post for
USCENTCOM, when the first plane hit. We were watching the fly patterns
of all the planes on the aerospace grid. This contained not only all
commercial flights at the time, but all military flights, and fake
enemy planes that were supposedly put on there for the exercise. Many
of the planes sent to intercept the fake blips were scrambled from
Andrews which is an air defense AFB for the East Coast. They were sent
across the US and left very few planes to defend the capital. After
the first plane hit the tower we were all in disbelief. After the
initial shock was over, our questions were what are the odds this
could happen for real, during a training exercise thats covering the
same scenario? We were all at wits end. Then to top all of this off,
Cheney gave NORAD the order to stand down scrambling jets to
intercept. A few moments later tower 2 was hit. Only after the
Pentagon was hit, did he give the orders to scramble the jets to
intercept the plane bound for the White House.

All of this is very interesting to me it sickened me so that I left
the Army after coming back from an 8 month deployment to Afghanistan.
There were just too many questions that no one could answer, too many
things that did not make sense. How is it possible to have a training
exercise about planes hitting the WTC and then actually have planes
hit the WTC? This kind of thing just does not happen unless its
pre-planned. What reason would there be to have this type of exercise
on that morning, Ill tell you if you are placing fake planes all
over the north American aerospace grid then you have no way of
knowing which planes are real and which are fake. Then to thicken the
plot you put a civilian in charge of NORAD so that the military does
not have the power to initiate the order for jets to be scrambled to
intercept. If the military would have still commanded power over NORAD
they would have scrambled jets because they would have simply
followed the procedures that had been in place for this type of
situation for years and years and scrambled jets.

To delve even further, as Im standing there watching the towers
collapse, next to me is one of my good friends and a former commander
of the Army Corps of Engineers. He is a demolitions expert. He was
even more surprised than me. When the towers collapsed he kept saying
this isnt right, this isnt right. When I asked him what he was
talking about he told me that steel buildings dont fall down that
way. Even if they are struck by objects; he went on to say that in
theory if the top 10 floors were hit, then possibly just that part of
the building would fall over and off, but the rest would remain
standing. When I asked him, not understanding the implications of
demolitions, he told me that it looked as if they were brought down by
controlled demolitions. I was utterly amazed, but after he said that
it did sort of appear that way.

Ill tell you what gave this whole thing away was building 7. If
they would not have brought this building down, then they probably
could have gotten away with it all. It was the most amazing site I
have ever seen. Not only was it amazing, it bore reality to the truth
of the situation something was not right here. Now, Im going to
tell you all I have learned, but I urge anyone to just spend 1hr
reading about this incident on the internet and learning the facts.
There have been numerous scholars, numerous physicists that have
analyzed this over and over and over again. And they all come to the
same conclusion, something does not add up. Building 7 was never
directly hit by a plane. Now it was stated that a piece of one of the
towers fell onto the side of building 7 and caught one of the floors
on fire. A few moments later we all witnessed the most perfect example
of controlled demolitions to ever be caught on camera. It could not be
proved that building 7 fell due to fire. My friend and I standing
there in the SCIF watching in uninterruptible awe with all those other
military members; watching building 7 fall perfectly onto its
footprint; my friend stating that it was beautifully done.

We all knew then we all realized that this was not some group of
unorganized cave dwellers from Afghanistan orchestrating a perfect hit
on American soil. It was impossible. Shortly after the Pentagon was
struck I called my close friend that I went to Basic Training with.
All civilian lines were down and I had to contact him via STU which is
a black line classified phone system. He did not answer, but one of
his soldiers did. I asked if SGT Worthington was ok and he said yes. I
asked if the plane did severe damage and he told me I didnt see any
plane. Then when I finally got to speak to my friend, he started
acting strange saying he could not talk about the incident over this
line. He was shipped off overseas a few weeks later and I never to
this day have had the chance to speak with him.

The Pentagon crash tape was released a few months back after 5 years.
You need to watch that tape no where can you see a plane strike the
Pentagon. This is because it was not a plane. I cannot tell you
exactly what hit the Pentagon, but its unanimous; it was definitely
not a plane. I can assure you that there is more than one CCTV camera
around the Pentagon. On September 25, 4 days before my 25th birthday,
I deployed to Afghanistan. Over the 8months I was there I had never
seen one intelligent Afghani soldier. They were all tattered and
scrawny and could barely shoot their weapons straight. This does not
mean that there were not men that could fly a plane, but after what I
saw it was extremely hard to believe they could be taught to fly a
sophisticated piece of aeronautical equipment.

y point Mr. Editor is that I spent 8 months in combat watching my
brothers die in the name of Freedom. I killed, in the name of Freedom
and to this day my brothers are still being killed for this
illusionary war we call the War on Terror. Where the enemy has no face
where there is no clear objective. In this War, anyone with ill
thoughts toward this country can be defined as a terrorist. Well, I
guess that includes me in this group as well as everyone else who
questions the events of 911, because we all hold ill thoughts toward
the leadership of this country and I say the real terrorists in this
world sit right in the heart of its capital.

I have bled for this country and would do so again in a heart beat
but only to protect its people, the true Americans that live here. I
would never again offer my life under the leadership whose real goal
is oil and money. The same ones who staged the most perfect
illusionary tactic in our history that was a pretext to a war on
terror that would never again go away. Their goal was to scare the
American public into submission making it easier for the world powers
to do their evil and get away with it.

Now that may sound like a typical conspiracy theorist I guess, but how
many do you actually talk to? Im not here saying that Aliens came
down and used laser beams to bring the towers down or control the
planes that were flown; Im telling you as a sane, logical and
intelligent individual, something does not add up about this. Earlier
this year I was watching the Discovery channel. They have a PBS
program called Rebuilding America. This particular episode was about
the WTC building 7. They interviewed Larry Silverstein (the owner)
about building 7. He stated on national TV the following which is the
direct quote and can be found here: http://www.wtc7.net/pullit.html

I remember getting a call from the, ER, fire department commander,
telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain
the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the
smartest thing to do is pull it." And they made that decision to pull
and we watched the building collapse.

I actually have the program recorded and you are more than welcome to
come by my house and watch it. He actually stated this on national TV.
I was so amazed that I almost shat myself. I could not believe he
actually stated this on a nationally broadcasted TV program. You can
ask any person who has done controlled demolitions please interview
someone they will tell you it takes weeks of planning to do this. We
are expected to believe that this was facilitated and planned in a
matter of hours for building 7, while the damn thing was on fire you
have got to be kidding me. If that is not enough to make you believe
something was fishy well then nothing will ever do.

Since that time there have been numerous scholars, some of which have
actually been publicly broadcasted on CSPAN. The latest program was
called: Theories about 9-11. American Perspectives and you can watch
this (which I advise you do) per this link: Theories about 9-11
(American Perspectives) or you can go to www.c-span.org and look under
their video/audio section to find this title. Its an outstanding
video and encompasses the thoughts of not only the American public,
but also Dr Steven Jones from Brigham Young University a physics
professor that actually received a piece of the rubble from the WTC.
Not only does he profoundly agree that building 7 was a controlled
demolition he can prove it. After he analyzed the piece of debris
they found; there were large traces of sulfur and Thermite found. If
you did not know, Thermite is a chemical compound found in many
explosives including C4 which I have used many times in the Army. It
leaves a distinct smell and identifiable residue upon explosion. Dr
Jones found large traces of this from the rubble.

Sir, there are many things that I never wanted to know for one that
the government that is supposed to be caring for the American people
could be corrupt. This was the last thing that I ever wanted to be
true but its time we wake up and smell the bull**** because its
permeating throughout the American public and we are all starting to
realize whats really going on. If your news station actually did a
similar Zogby type poll here in Cincinnati, I think you would find
that a lot more than 1/3 of the people believe this. I know tons just
in this area.

I could literally write you 100 pages of truths that could prove that
9-11 was an inside job, but Id probably just be passed off as some
crazy conspiracy theorist. Instead I want to give you the tools to
look for yourself because the quest for wisdom is a journey we must
all take alone. So, to you I add the following links and if you just
spend a small portion of your day reading and watching some of this
footage, who knows you may wake up and stand along side the rest of us
in utter amazement.


Respectfully,

SGT Lauro Chavez
United States Central Command

Thanks to the Internet, one of the few freedoms we have left, these
truths can be sent to the public. Thank God we dont have to rely on
news media to get this information out to everyone!

This is only about a 10th of my list of sites. Enjoy; and when you are
sick with the truth of things, let me know and Ill buy you a beer to
ease your nerves.

Loose Change Volume 2
(An outstanding documentary done about 911 that includes news reports
and live footage of the tragedy and finds that some things are not
what they seem)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1519312457137943386&q=loose+change


Official Pentagon Plane Crash Video
(You tell me where the plane is)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5658198482624505213


Silverstein saying we decided to pull the building
The collapse of building 7
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6455428412411043437&q=WTC+building+7

Another video of bldg 7
(In this you can see the widely noticeable crinkle that is common in
controlled demolitions)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9184329400593634920&q=wtc+7


Watch the following in sequence:

1. Showing the Thermite at work.
(In this video you can see the molten concrete and metal spewing out
of the WTC. This is what happens when a Thermite type explosive is
used to cut down steel pillars)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=545886459853896774&q=thermite

2. Then watch this video
(it shows the spot where the molten metal is coming out the same
spot where the building crinkles and collapses)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4763320529356355623&q=wtc+7





isc Links for research:

http://www.911truth.org/

http://www.st911.org/

http://www.infowars.com/

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/020806tapesintensify.htm

Zogby Poll Results
http://www.911truth.org/images/911TruthZogbyPollFinalReport.htm



As you can see, Im not your typical conspiracy theorist I
actually have a good job! I thought at first I might send you this
from an anonymous email address, but you know what now you know Im
not just some stupid kid.
Thanks for taking the time to read.

Respectfully,

Lauro "LJ" Chavez
Director of Information Security
Domin-8 Enterprise Solutions
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You must've realized by now Swift that although you believe this crap, we don't. Of course there are lots of conspiracy theorists out there, and they have all sorts of craptastic 'evidence', questions and conjectures.

It doesn't change the fact that it's all bull fantasy generated by creative minds. I remember when my young son was firmly convinced that there was a large animal in his closet that would come out and get him at night. He firmly believed he heard its grunts and saw it move.

This guy is credible. In fact a lot of 911 truthers feared it was too good.

Claim: USCENTCOM Sergeant Blows Whistle On 9/11 Inside Job
Blogosphere debate rages as to whether "Chavez" is real or disinfo (http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/uscentcom_seargent_blows_whistle_on_911_inside_job .htm)

It's been investigaed and deemed legit (http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/LChavez_214.pdf)

No he isn't, he believes in crazy conspiracy theories.

lol

The biggest problem is that if its the persons "real" name, then they would in jail for treason (breaking TS information) if its a fake name, then well theres really no guarentee its not just some random nutjob writing a letter)

i'm not too knowledgable about classified information, but I'm pretty sure that if someone broke "Top Secret" information they would be thrown in jail quicker then you can say "conspiracy theories are bull****" (that actually takes a while to say but whatever).. or hell just WHACKED OFF since our government can so easily do stuff like that.

Unlike in movies some government agent just doesnt come up to you and have you sign an NDA and BAM you have TS information. top secret information requires extensive background checks (Min 3 months for TS, up to 3 years)

Furthermore, although I have not been in the military, but I doubt TS clearance will be given to a regular squad of soldiers, as opposed to something like Delta Force etc

The government isn't going to just give an entire squad of run of the mill soldiers top secret information, and you can guarentee that the few people who do have it will be watched. (or sorry, we can pull off 911 but we cant watch people with TS clearance)

He may still be arrested. Who knows, his letter didn't pick up much attention for a few months. You guys are good at discrediting these fellers I quote, work yer magic on this guy.

Where does he release TS info? NORAD stand down orders were a secret? The fact there were drills a secret? Seriously, drills with planes hitting WTC, Pentagon, and White house, complete with fake radar blips. What are the chances?!

Drills also with the same places, same times in the London 07/07 bombings. Explosions in the basements of the WTC buildings. 1100+ degree molten steel in the rubble weeks after the collapse. It's widely agreed that steel won't melt till over 2000 degrees and all agree the fires didn't get that hot. 850 degrees max under optimal burning conditions, with black smoke showing an oxygen deprived fire (poorly burning). The squibs are not piston reactions when they are 10-14 floors below the collapse as per the pancake theory. Sure there are some holes in the conspiracy theorys of what happend but the governments theory is easily as flawed. The truth must be somewhere in the middle. Many offical story defenders have gone looking to disprove the entire debate and been converted to believers by their own research.


I'm not convinced either way on the pentagon plane/no plane debate but I found this (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6317630216235657870&q=911+mysteries) interesting.

911 Mysteries (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911+mysteries)

Even if you went with the official story why hasn't anyone gone to jail or been fired for negligence.

In terms of accountability, I think this is one of the great mysteries of the last three or four years. Three thousand Americans died three years ago, and no one lost his or her job over it. A president who says that he is a strong president, and those around him say he is, did not fire anyone. Either he was misled, in which case, somebody should have been fired. Or he misled us, in which case he should be fired.

— Gary Hart - Former Senator

Why did I know before reading that it was a 911 conspiracy theory post?

Related, but not specifically about Chavez.
http://screwloosechange.xbehome.com/fst/NORAD.pdf

Re: What top secret was revealed?

In the days prior to the tragedies, we were involved in many exercises. Some of these exercises included the scenarios of hijacked planes crashing into, our building the world trade center, the White House, Sears Tower, and the Pentagon. These drills or exercises as we called them, where classified Top Secret

Thats like someone saying "we were involved in many exercises, Some of these exercises included scenarios of assinating leaders of countries such as Iran, Iraq, Cuba, Venezuela. These drills or exercises as we called them were classified Top Secret."

PS I know people make spelling mistakes, and this is nitpicking but generally in letters like this I'd hope people would really check it over to make sure what they are saying is right.... Where classified top secret is supposed to be "were classified Top Secret"

Again not knowing too much about classified Information in the Government but I have doubts that general army troops would be given Top Secret classification level.

PS the world did not end on 6/6/6, wasnt there supposed to some moratorium on this kind of BS

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The best rebuttal is: this guy who "leaked" this is still alive, yes?

Then your theory is false.

Logic compels it to be so.

Your theory about the events of 9/11 is that the government arranged the 9/11 attacks.

Just THINK about the implications of that for a second.

You are basically saying that the current government had ABSOLUTELY NO problem with KILLING over 3,000 men, women and children to declare war on Iraq/maintain power/maintain fear/get us ready for the One World Order/whatever the hell it is "they" really want to do.

Yet, the makers of Loose Change, this Top Secret Sarge, and whoever the hell else that comes up with The Defining Expose of the government's "SECRET AGENDA" are left completely unscathed, and continue to blab the government's big secrets?

The math doesn't add up:
A government that shows no scruples about killing large numbers of innocent people (according to the conspiracy theories)
+
Fearless "journalists" that would expose the government's "secret plans"
=
Live "journalists"?

You can't have it both ways. Either the government is filled with heartless killers in pursuit of power, in which case the few people that were going to "blow the whistle" would be deleted without a thought, or the government isn't what you say it is, and the "truthspeakers to power" continue to draw breath on planet Earth. As I see that they continue to suck in lungfuls of air(and cash!), I will have to call shenanigans on your theory.

Do you have a picture of Sgt. Chavez?

I did a Google image search of him, and had zero hits.

Where is this guy?

Who is he?

I found this, his discharge orders.
http://www.v911t.org/M/LChavez_214.pdf

http://www.infowars.com/images2/guests/chavez_lj.jpg

Domin-8 Enterprise Solutions
513-***-****
lchavez@domin-8.com
Director of Information Security

Edited out the phone number but a google search of "Domin-8 Enterprise Solutions "Lauro Chavez"" will get you it.

I linked his discharge papers in my second post on this tread.

I think the argument that they are still alive isn't as rock solid as you would like to think. Bumping people off would give credibility to the movement. I think a martyr isn't something they are willing to deal with just yet. I have no doubt that when the time comes we (the nuts) will be rounded up and put into the "non existant" camps.

I have no doubt that when the time comes we (the nuts) will be rounded up and put into the "non existant" camps.

Despite the mental relief such a thing would do to us normal folks, I think you give your guys too much credit!

think a martyr isn't something they are willing to deal with just yet. I have no doubt that when the time comes we (the nuts) will be rounded up and put into the "non existant" camps

Sigh. You geniunely think the government is going to round you up for posting on a internet message board?

I give up. Here's your hat.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/Pariah777/tinfoilhat.gif

Hell no...folks like Swiftfox will always be permitted to roam free...so the Gov't can point at him and say "See? We don't suppress political dissidents...we don't know what happened to the leadership of the Democratic party..look at the crazy consptheorists"

Its like their version of the Chewbacca Defense.

No, Not for posting on the internet. My posts could however in theory have me added to some form of ADEX list.

Rex 84 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84)
The exercise anticipated civil disturbances, major demonstrations and strikes that would affect continuity of government and/or resource mobilization. To fight subversive activities, there was authorization for the military to implement government ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional levels, the arrest of certain unidentified segments of the population, and the imposition of martial rule.

Ashcroft calls for camps (http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/Police_state/The%20Village%20Voice%20Nation%20Nat%20Hentoff%20G eneral%20Ashcroft%27s%20Detention%20Camps%20by%20N at%20Hentoff.htm)
Ashcroft's plan, disclosed last week but little publicized, would allow him to order the indefinite incarceration of U.S. citizens and summarily strip them of their constitutional rights and access to the courts by declaring them enemy combatants.


Police state (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1551348336255792191&q=police+state) - here foriegn troops can be seen training in US cities. The volunteers (Actors) shout "I have rights" and "I'm an American citizen"
Gee.. I wonder who they plan on arresting.

FEMA camp (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8272096722231303649)

More (http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives_concentration_camps_old.html)

Free Speach zones (http://www.prisonplanet.com/310104freespeechzones.html)

Patriot act used against regular citizens (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2004/091004patriotact.htm)

My point is I could be arrested and labeled as an enemy combatant for political dissent . There are camps and laws in place to allow them to arrest people indefinitely, without charge. I have no doubt they will use both eventualy.

US Detention Camps For Political Subversives (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=WAT20060204&articleId=1886)

No, Not for posting on the internet. My posts could however in theory have me added to some form of ADEX list.

Rex 84 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84)

So, what does a cold war exercise have to do with 9/11? the 84 stands for 1984. Similar exercises occured as early as 39 years ago.



Police state (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1551348336255792191&q=police+state) - here foriegn troops can be seen training in US cities. The volunteers (Actors) shout "I have rights" and "I'm an American citizen"
Gee.. I wonder who they plan on arresting.


What does a conspiracy video from before Bush took office have to do with his administration being involved in any 9/11 conspiracies?

FEMA camp (http://http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8272096722231303649)

Link didn't work.


More (http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives_concentration_camps_old.html)

All this proves is that FEMA May have a plan in case of a bio/nuclear terror attack. I thought that sort of planning was one of the reasons they existed in the first place. Can you imagine the cries of people claiming that they should have been ready if that sort of attack ever happened and they weren't? Especially in this day and age.


Free Speach zones (http://www.prisonplanet.com/310104freespeechzones.html)

Reminds me of the 2004 Democratic Convention in Boston where the "Free speach zone" was 2 blocks away from the Fleet center not in line of site to the building, under the old defunct "green line" MBTA tressel surrounded by chain link fence and access too and from strictly enforced by Boston Police. And that was all organized the the DNC!

Patriot act used against regular citizens (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2004/091004patriotact.htm)

My point is I could be arrested and labeled as an enemy combatant for political dissent . There are camps and laws in place to allow them to arrest people indefinitely, without charge. I have no doubt they will use both eventualy.

US Detention Camps For Political Subversives (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=WAT20060204&articleId=1886)

And yet, here you are still free and at large. Have the black helicopters landed in your back yard filled with men in black suits yet? Has Homeland security come knocking at your door to question your loyalty yet?

Patriot act used against regular citizens (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2004/091004patriotact.htm)

My point is I could be arrested and labeled as an enemy combatant for political dissent . There are camps and laws in place to allow them to arrest people indefinitely, without charge. I have no doubt they will use both eventualy.

US Detention Camps For Political Subversives (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=WAT20060204&articleId=1886)


This is the stuff you should be concerned with. Not about silly conspiracies regarding the government crashing planes into our own buildings.

Lauro got fired from Domin-8 Enterprise Solutions yesterday for this letter.

He doesn't say why he was fired but the current theory is he was fired for faking his dd-214 form. (that linked discharge form)
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/09/photoshop-follies.html

ore info:
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/09/veterans-for-truth.html
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/09/centcom-stories.html
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/09/newest-whistleblower.html

The Web community has been extremely effective at debunking Fruads like this in past. I was knew it was just a matter of time before this would happen. It only took a few days last time with Jesse Macbeth.

edit: LMAO, I'm just now finishing my links. They are hillarious. This guy is so obviously a fraud.

Here are a couple of my favorite parts:

Chavez said
Alfons, you need but ask and I can explain why I have no ribbon on my 214 - and no combat action badge - its because of how I left the military. I used a chapter 13 to get out early for School. So go research that...

That was my loophole exit - however, I was there and I really dont give a crap about some ribbon. They give out ribbons like candy anyway. Who cares...

Apparently chapter 13 isn't an exemption for going to school. It's a separation for unsatisfactory performance. If he lied about that when he interviewed for his job, that's easily grounds for dismissal.

Another great part is his claims of being in Afghanistan two weeks after 9/11. The US didn't attack until 4 weeks later. Of course, his supposed tour of duty in the campaign wasn't listed on his discharge.

y absolute favorite part is him talking about how he was protecting the pipleline:
Chavez: Yeah, and I thought I was going to hunt bin Laden, and that was clearly not the objective of that war. I still don't know what the objective is. Other than to subliminally condition the people.

Alex Jones: Can you say 400 billion in opium a year coming out of there?

Chavez: Exactly, or the pipeline. A lot of people are like, "what pipeline?"

Alex Jones: Unoco

Chavez: I had to pull roving guard to make sure nobody blew up that pipeline. That was where our billions of dollars for the war went. (unintelligible) pull patrols.

Apparently the pipeline he was patrolling HASN'T EVEN BEEN BUILT YET!!!!

Priceless!!!!

Lauro got fired from Domin-8 Enterprise Solutions yesterday for this letter.

I'd fire him too.

Either A) He has a propensity for lying about his employer and can't be trusted or B) He exposed classified material...and can't be trusted.

Arg, he got meh!

In fact a lot of 911 truthers feared it was too good.

I hearby retract my support of this peice of trash.

Looking at the document he provided even I can say its clearly been doctored. What a cockbag.

Seeing as I'm of the conspiritorial mindset, I could see how this was diversionary and a very good attempt to discredit some of the movement. And the name tag Luaro Jones Chavez even seemed fishy to me but I let it go. The majority of the 911blogger people wouldn't bite on this guy.

Lol Swift... so now you're saying that Lauro Chavez is part of the conspiracy? His purpose was to discredit the movement??

You are TOOOO funny :rolling:

You really don't like me having any fun do you. :crazy:

http://www.gnn.tv/articles/2577/9_11_and_the_New_Pearl_Harbor_Part_I


However, it is equally irresponsible to accept official complicity in the attacks as a foregone conclusion, and twist every fact to fit it. The mini-industry which has sprung up around 9-11 “conspiracy theory”—as well as the activist campaign that serves as its unpaid advertising department—has merely replicated the dogmatism of the “official version.” Worse, the endemic sloppiness of the self-styled “researchers” is delegitimizing the entire project of critiquing the “official version.” The ostentatiously named “Truth movement” is not clearing the air, but muddying the water.