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Panamah
10-03-2006, 01:48 PM
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/10/02/opinion/edkeillor.php
I got some insight recently into who supports torture when I went down to Dallas to speak at Highland Park Methodist Church.

It was spooky. I walked in, was met by two burly security men with walkie-talkies, and within 10 minutes was told by three people that this was the Bushes' church and that it would be better if I didn't talk about politics.

I was there on a book tour for "Homegrown Democrat" but they thought it better if I didn't mention it. So I tried to make light of it: I told the audience, "I don't need to talk politics. I have no need even to be interested in politics - I'm a citizen, I have plenty of money and my grandsons are at least 12 years away from being eligible for military service." And the audience applauded! Those were their sentiments exactly. We've got ours, and who cares?

The Methodists of Dallas can be fairly sure that none of them will be snatched off the streets, flown to Guantánamo, stripped naked, forced to stand for 48 hours in a freezing room with deafening noise, so why should they worry? It's only the Jews who are in danger, and the homosexuals and gypsies. The Christians are doing just fine.

Fyyr Lu'Storm
10-03-2006, 02:56 PM
Garrison Keillor needs to go back and get his law degree.

Or maybe I just need to be schooled. I find it interesting that he is of the opinion that foreign non citizens Jihadists on foreign non American land are entitled to the right of habeas corpus from the United States government.

That is twice in two weeks that I have heard that opinion coming from a person who makes his living on NPR, an enterprise funded by public money.

And Godwin's called on that retarded second to last sentence in that quote.

He is a good fictionalist, that is for sure. It would be better if he kept his scripted words for his own characters instead of attributing his opinions into the words and opinions of real people. With his show he has every right to be a ventriloquist but that does not mean that he is a mind reader.

Panamah
10-03-2006, 02:59 PM
As a friend of mine pointed out when another one raised the same objection you do:

inor difference Dave, in this current law the President can declare an American an “Enemy combatant” and have the right to detain them without trial (they get a few more rights then foreigners but not much). And BTW foreigners do have rights in the US and they can’t be detained willy nilliy. We can boot them out of the country or charge them with a crime but you can’s just hold them at will without charging them with a crime (such as being in the country illegally).

So if Bush decides that Dave is an enemy combatant he can detain you and there ain’t much you can do about.

Fyyr Lu'Storm
10-03-2006, 03:03 PM
Dave's not here, man!

Panamah
10-03-2006, 03:07 PM
I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave.