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10-04-2006, 06:40 AM
AHAHAH call me slacker .. i prolly exaggerate some, but i am at the point that i think i do almost more damage getting a panther/champion, wunshi, haste ac debuffing the mob and just autoattacking (with dome decent proc) then nuking =).
NEVER using equinox nor pure life .. just not worth it imo.. few crits and more fizzles

10-04-2006, 08:22 AM
I rarely get a fizzle on either after i raised casting skills to max again. My main form of damage in group settings these days is using Icefall with Cloudburst and Winter's Storm

10-04-2006, 09:17 AM
hmm yes .. i have 2 procs on my hammer+ 400 proc from spell .. something procs almost every hit= every second.
All procs crit, for up to 1750.
Somewhat decent dps, no need to cast =)

Evoc, alt maxed here too.

10-04-2006, 09:19 AM
I've tried Hammer of Hours with proc aug added + panther + bard - to raise melee skills while exping in a dps heavy group. It's fun for a while but still doesn't compare to cast dps.

10-04-2006, 09:55 AM
Time lapse proc will do ~50 dps. Panther will do ~70 dps (on a druid w/ destructive fury maxxed.) A 175 proc aug will do ~15 dps. If you have high CE, these values may be higher.

Unhasted druid melee with epic is ~15 dps, with panther and 100% haste (item+buff haste cap) that would be ~33 dps.

In total, looking at about 170 dps meleeing from a druid. I'm not exactly sure how mana flare works with priests procs atm, but when manaflare came out a cleric using time hammer would get the 7 proc limit away in under 10 seconds (cleric hammer procs a lot more than ours.) But when they removed they limit on mana flare, they changed things around - it may only proc off of panther and spells for us now /shrug dont know really.

Eitherway, if you're grouped with a shaman, bitch to them about malo`ing and just nuke~

10-04-2006, 11:08 AM
NEVER using equinox nor pure life .. just not worth it imo.. few crits and more fizzles

Mister Slacker (since you did ask for it)

Both Equinox Burn, and Pure Life will give you higher average totalsthen the Omens verison, if my math is correct.

10-04-2006, 11:16 AM
I think mana flare procs off of both panther and stormblade for reference Kamion.. some zerkers go ape**** over the boost to dps by having those 3 plus an aa proc disc and those 2 buffs in particular proc flare for them so should for all. Think it just needs to be a proc via a spell buff rather than an innate worn proc.

10-05-2006, 08:59 AM
this thread makes me sad!

10-27-2006, 07:43 AM
bard proc (for 100) triggers manaflare (700) while champion doesnt i think
both can crit .. i hit more once a second hasted and with bard overhaste, and it procs almost every hit with direfocus and enc haste and ranger buffs ... (got 2 procs on weap 750 175, max melee skills, capped stats, have +150 atk +30 accuracy i think ... 2K atk or so)

so almost every second i see something proc ..
have no parse but was pretty impressive

10-28-2006, 04:18 AM
When i''m just strictly DPS in a group and i have a shammie i always pop out the HoH and turn auto attak on while chain nuking. Provides some extra DPS while spell gems are resetting.

When i'm healing i'll also toss a few nukes in and melee inbetween heals.

11-02-2006, 07:53 AM
I also melee while healing.. pretty much always actually
When i get LOM i switch from HoH to and keep going .. and going..

Theft of Thought works quite well nowadays .. seems that only OOW mobs are OOM =) I use constantly since DoD and often i recharge 300 mana (every few seconds). Many casters i proc so often they get OOM =) Fast killing groups improve its effectiveness, as you suck dry more mobs per minute =)
Worked really well in Nest for example, i could solo-MH the entire mission nonstop without oom.