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Tejaye
11-14-2006, 02:03 AM
OK....I just got my son into Star Wars, so I figured I better learn it as well. I had a few questions after watching Episodes 1 and 3 and only the original so far........
****Who is Anakin Skywalkers father? His mother said there was no father. How could that be? Besides theory, has any fact been stated in any of the movies who the real father of Anakin is?
*****Also....under the white Storm Troopers helmets from the original Star Wars and after, would they all look like duplicates of Jango Fett?
*****Is Jango Fett the father of Bobba Fett?
*****Finally and most important.....WHO is the chosen one that will bring order to the Republic? Is it Luke Skywalker? I know Qui said it would be Anakin, but was it proven that Anakin was not the chosen one when he went to the dark side?
Can anyone answer these 4 questions please?

Stormhaven
11-14-2006, 02:12 AM
Personally I hate Star Wars, but being a computer geek, you can't help but know some of the lore.

I figure all the other nerds can probably give you all the answers in their sleep, but the only one I know is the answer to your last question. Darth Vader / aka: Anakin was the one who was supposed to restore the balance of the universe. The prophecy did come true, if you recall, it was Darth Vader, not Luke Skywalker, who finally killed the Emperor in the final (episode 6) movie.

Fyyr Lu'Storm
11-14-2006, 02:55 AM
Supposedly, all the clones are clones of Jango Fett.

Boba Fett is also a clone of Jango, but raised as a son.

Unless you mean the level one thief in that DnD film, then he is just some Quebecois dude.

Sildan
11-14-2006, 06:18 AM
Who is Anakin Skywalkers father?

I don't believe you're ever actually told that in the movies. You're led to believe she was magically impregnated.

Personally, I think it was the 1990 Denver Broncos at the Drunken Barn Dance!

Aidon
11-14-2006, 10:08 AM
OK....I just got my son into Star Wars, so I figured I better learn it as well. I had a few questions after watching Episodes 1 and 3 and only the original so far........
****Who is Anakin Skywalkers father? His mother said there was no father. How could that be? Besides theory, has any fact been stated in any of the movies who the real father of Anakin is?

According to his mother, he has no father (immaculate conception). That's all the movies have to say on the issue. Hence, is cannon


*****Also....under the white Storm Troopers helmets from the original Star Wars and after, would they all look like duplicates of Jango Fett?

The Episodes 2 and 3 seem to imply some truth to the concept, but so far as I am aware, by Episode 4, the Empire had been well established for 18 years, and were simply recruiting normal folks to fill their stormtrooper ranks.


*****Is Jango Fett the father of Bobba Fett?

Boba Fett is the clone of Jango, but raised as his son. I'll leave it up to geneticists to figure out what relation they actually are, since even identical siblings are not exact copies genetically speaking, so far as I know =P


*****Finally and most important.....WHO is the chosen one that will bring order to the Republic? Is it Luke Skywalker? I know Qui said it would be Anakin, but was it proven that Anakin was not the chosen one when he went to the dark side?
Can anyone answer these 4 questions please?

I don't know what is being put forth (if anything) in the Star Wars world on this question, but the movie does not address it at all. Firstly, my understanding is that the Chosen One isn't supposed to bring order to the republic, but balance to the force. Regardless, Anakin did both, in unexpected ways. Tyrrany and authoritarianism is nothing more than order...very very strict order, so he did bring order to the republic (in a manner of speaking ;). As for balance to the Force...the Jedi's mistakes in recognizing and dealing with the Sith stem from the imbalance they had created, towards the "Light". As Vader, he eventually kills all of the Jedi, except Yoda and Ob-Wan, creating a Jedi Duo to balance with the Sith duo..and when Luke comes into play, Obi-Wan lets himself bite the dust.

=D

Tejaye
11-14-2006, 10:55 AM
That part I never understood.......why did Obi-Wan allow himself to get killed so easily?
And second question............did Anakin go to the darkside just to save his wife Padme, since he sees her die in the future? It seems Anakin really just went to the darkside out of true love for his wife. Episode 3 seems to show that was the main reason. I recall Anakin saying to Emporer Palpatine when he gave his loyalty, something about saving his wife. Then when he wore the Darth Vader suit for the first time, he immeditaley asked for his wife......so Anakin became evil trying to save his wife...not for material greed. So how bad could he actually have been. Seriously.

Fenlayen
11-14-2006, 11:16 AM
Doing evil deeds for good reasons is still doing evil deeds :behindcom

WiLdOnE786
11-14-2006, 03:34 PM
That part I never understood.......why did Obi-Wan allow himself to get killed so easily?
And second question............did Anakin go to the darkside just to save his wife Padme, since he sees her die in the future? It seems Anakin really just went to the darkside out of true love for his wife. Episode 3 seems to show that was the main reason. I recall Anakin saying to Emporer Palpatine when he gave his loyalty, something about saving his wife. Then when he wore the Darth Vader suit for the first time, he immeditaley asked for his wife......so Anakin became evil trying to save his wife...not for material greed. So how bad could he actually have been. Seriously.

y speculations... I believe that Obi-Wan died so easily so Luke could better understand the force.. Remember, Jedi's do not get angry or let fealings get the best of him, one of the concepts that both Yoda and Obi tried to teach luke. Obi-wan lived a good full life, and there was nothing more he could do to save him except better help the chosen one, Luke, prepare to fight the fight of all fights.
But, why sacrifice himself? Why not keep teaching him and help him get better?
Again, sacrificing himself would truely help see if Luke was a jedi and did not let emotions get to him, when the only thing luke COULD do was train and get better. Obi-wan was his first nice father figure he had, and Obi-wan did not want to get in the middle of his old Padawans affairs and his sons.. Plesent?.. Unplesent? Reunion.

I also think that yes, Anikan did go to the darkside to attempt to save Padame.. The old councelir guy ( sorry, can't remember his name) told him that if he mastered the dark ARTS he could actually change the future.. But, Obi-wan supposedly what he thought was killing Anikan.. But really just left him in a horrible health. He took that news back to Padme and she gave up the will to live when giving labor.

Sorry if some of that isn't true.. I haven't watched the series in about a year, and that is how i remember most of it.

Gunny Burlfoot
11-15-2006, 01:44 AM
OK....I just got my son into Star Wars, so I figured I better learn it as well. I had a few questions after watching Episodes 1 and 3 and only the original so far........
****Who is Anakin Skywalkers father? His mother said there was no father. How could that be? Besides theory, has any fact been stated in any of the movies who the real father of Anakin is?

There was no father, according to Shmi. His midichlorian count was so high that it's common interpretation that he was "conceived by the Force", Lucas's sad attempt to make Anakin a messiah of sorts. :rolleyes:

QUI-GON : The Force is unusally strong with him, that much is clear. Who was his father?
SHMI : There was no father, that I know of...I carried him, I gave him birth...I can't explain what happened. Can you help him?
http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Star-Wars-The-Phantom-Menace.html

*****Also....under the white Storm Troopers helmets from the original Star Wars and after, would they all look like duplicates of Jango Fett?

Yes and no. During the initial buildup of forces to fight the Separatist wars, otherwise known as the Clone Wars, if you had removed those helmets, they would have been Jango Fett copies. After Episode III, during the 18 year hiatus between that and episode IV, the recruiting was a mix of both cloning new DNA templates and normal human recruiting. It is accepted that stormtroopers were exclusively human males, as the Emperor was racist in his Imperial policies. More info here.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Stormtroopers

*****Is Jango Fett the father of Bobba Fett?
ore like a twin, but the movies do mention that they altered Boba's clone DNA to allow him to age normally. Perhaps they built in some variance as well.

*****Finally and most important.....WHO is the chosen one that will bring order to the Republic? Is it Luke Skywalker? I know Qui said it would be Anakin, but was it proven that Anakin was not the chosen one when he went to the dark side?
There was no prophecy of any 'Chosen One' to bring order to the Republic. The prophecy in the movies was:
"There would be a Chosen One that would come that would bring balance to the Force".

Lucas has commented several times in interviews to those that are confused about the whole thing that Anakin was the Chosen One, not Luke, though Luke was the catalyst that allowed Anakin to fulfill the final part of his destiny. (killing all the Jedi and the Emperor, Darth Sidius)

And Anakin, as Darth Vader, brought balance to the Force in a big way. He killed all the children in the Jedi Academy, burned it to the ground, and continued hunting all the Jedi for 18 years between Episode III and IV. Tarkin in Episode IV mentions how effective Vader was at it. At the end of Anakin's life, he was done balancing the Force. He had killed scores of Jedi, The Emperor, Obi-Wan, and Yoda had died, leaving the only Jedi in the canon Star Wars universe as Luke, his son.

That's pretty balanced I'd say. Wiped clean, to start over. The problem with the Jedi Council is that they thought they knew what the prophecy meant. In their error, they thought they were already balanced, but they were not.

If you have on one side, a master and apprentice (Sith)
and on the other side, a Jedi Academy, with hundreds of Jedi (Jedi Council),
that's not exactly "balanced", which means evenly matched.

You could say that at the beginning of the original trilogy, it was balanced, since there was :

Yoda + Obi-Wan (Jedi) = Emperor + Darth Vader (Sith)

But then one side had all the power. When Vader killed Obi-Wan, that meant the Emperor would have to go, and when Yoda died, that meant Vader had to die for "balance" to be maintained. Think of it as an equation :)

Fyyr Lu'Storm
11-15-2006, 04:00 AM
Darth Sidius?

Geez.

How about Darth Vicious, and Darth Rotten?

Get another Darth together, and you can remake the Sex Pistols.

Hell, just throw in Scary Spice, and you would have a band.

Kalthanan
11-15-2006, 02:07 PM
Anakin was twisted by fear all of his life, although he tried to hide it.

When he was young and taken from his mother, he was afraid for her, afraid of not being there to protect her. This fear was fulfilled when she was kidnapped by the Sand People.

When Anakin met Palpatine, Palpatine started to manipulate him. He gained Anakin's trust, then told him things to make him suspicious of his colleagues, and of his wife.

By the end of Episode 3, Anakin was a basket case, driven by unrealistic romantic expectations and insane jealousy, all based on the whispers of Palpatine.

An interesting storyline spoiled by terrible acting and directing. Pacing was much too fast for my liking as well; I think Episodes 1-3 would have been better served starting with Anakin already a Jedi padawan. Palpatine's corruption was too quick in the movies.

Stormhaven
11-15-2006, 02:23 PM
I think episodes 1-3 would have been better served if Lucas was taken out of the writing and directing process :P

Aidon
11-15-2006, 03:07 PM
That part I never understood.......why did Obi-Wan allow himself to get killed so easily?
And second question............did Anakin go to the darkside just to save his wife Padme, since he sees her die in the future? It seems Anakin really just went to the darkside out of true love for his wife. Episode 3 seems to show that was the main reason. I recall Anakin saying to Emporer Palpatine when he gave his loyalty, something about saving his wife. Then when he wore the Darth Vader suit for the first time, he immeditaley asked for his wife......so Anakin became evil trying to save his wife...not for material greed. So how bad could he actually have been. Seriously.


That, right there, is the point of the entire series. He did horrible evil things out of love for his wife, and then out of despair after finding out he essentially sold his soul for nothing, and ultimately is the reason why couldn't kill his son and found redemption.

Aidon
11-15-2006, 03:07 PM
I think episodes 1-3 would have been better served if Lucas was taken out of the writing and directing process :P

He never should have gotten pissed at Kurtz after Empire.

Grenoble
11-17-2006, 10:40 AM
An interesting storyline spoiled by terrible acting and directing. Pacing was much too fast for my liking as well; I think Episodes 1-3 would have been better served starting with Anakin already a Jedi padawan. Palpatine's corruption was too quick in the movies.

Don't think it was the acting so much as actors trying to work with horrible writing.

While I liked the last one overall, the scenes between Anakin and Padame were just painful to listen to.