For the little time I could actually use it (EQ went down again) - the new AA storm stike seems amazing. Every 30 seconds you get a 850 (tier 1) damage DD.

I thought it was going to be another DS or a Proc buff, but nope.. straight up free AA nuke that can crit + does extra damage if the mob is above 75% health.

I tried it on myself and crited + extra bonus It was close to 2300 damage. No to shabby for free and every 30 seconds.

Going to add a lot to our dps. Also will help a lot with long term fights with oom people and lots of druids :)

I spent a good deal of time giving feedback on this during beta, I am a pretty big fan of the AA personally.

-Fenier

I bought the first rank also and I'm pretty impressed! It also seems to crit quite a lot, the base damage and the bonus damage. 30 second recast time is also great, much better than I ever expected :)

bought all 3 ranks already, its nice doing over 4k with double crits when the mob is inc, for free :D

Its also very little aggro

maybe im being negative but i sense a HUGE nerf bat coming soon on this ability. seems every time we get somthing halfway decent prathun and the devs seem to think it needs nerfed down.

maybe im being negative but i sense a HUGE nerf bat coming soon on this ability. seems every time we get somthing halfway decent prathun and the devs seem to think it needs nerfed down.

Under what logic?

If i could consolidate every single quest that was nerfed because it "didnt work as intended" or even the recent large Hit to skin of the reptile, then it would be a long list.

Then i see other aa's like nature's guardian with a 22 min cool down, given the amount of damage the bear can do and the recast delay, the fact the bear can be 1-rounded b4 it completes the damage. And i look at our epic with the clicky, given its 6 min re-use and short duration. Then i see this ability: 30 second recast is extremely cool, very fast cast time of .5, doesn't cost life like some of the life-burn aa's do,and it can be extended with aa's to over 4k, for free.

Given sony's history of "fixing" things that "didnt work as intended", i get a little paranoid. a friend bought this aa and from what i see i like it very much. i think it gives us a solid boost of dps that rounds out a druid as a class, but i wont be surprised if i log on and see that dreaded patch message "so and so ability has been brought in line with other abilities and has been fixed".

I did a good bit of the tuning of this AA, and to my knowledge Nodyin is happy with the outcome as it stands now.

-Fenier

Would like to say i think you do a great job as a class correspondant fen. i tend to grumble here and there on occasion but im very happy with where we druids are as a class and i think sony does listen to the community and tries hard to do what they can.

Then i see other aa's like nature's guardian with a 22 min cool down, given the amount of damage the bear can do and the recast delay, the fact the bear can be 1-rounded b4 it completes the damage.

My biggest issue with long cool downs is it doesn't get me in the habit of using them. I forget this little guy 9 times out of 10 that I could have used it.

I did a good bit of the tuning of this AA, and to my knowledge Nodyin is happy with the outcome as it stands now.

-Fenier

Damn you got to adjust the data ? Not to steal your thunder but, there were a were other druids that helped in providing feedback for the tuning of this and other AA/spells. You are making it sound like you are the only one that contributed to the resulting AA.

And I realize that, I did however write several posts on the AA all of which I think where actually implemented, hence my statement.

No disrespect to anyone else was intended.

-Fenier

Yes you did bring up the fact that the recast time needed to be reduced, the damage increased and the range (all of which did get upgraded), similar points were brought up by Ormus, Juzaam, Noken, some even prior to you getting into bet. Just making sure people realize that while you do a great job providing information and feedback here, there were a good number of other druids in beta working hard to get our AA/spells tuned and they should be thanked as well.

He just said that he was involved...so that his statement about a dev's opinion would be backed up. He wasn't trying to take sole credit for anything. Thanks to all who helped in beta.

My biggest issue with long cool downs is it doesn't get me in the habit of using them. I forget this little guy 9 times out of 10 that I could have used it.

You could tie it to one of your other nukes. If it's up it goes off. I have my epic tied to my assist key for group grinding for the same reason.

You could tie it to one of your other nukes. If it's up it goes off. I have my epic tied to my assist key for group grinding for the same reason.

Currently I have it linked to my right turn key though you might want to be careful if you haven't used this tactic before and you could end up nuking the wrong mob.

Anyone have the Alt code for this?

Storm Strike 3728

Damn you got to adjust the data ? Not to steal your thunder but, there were a were other druids that helped in providing feedback for the tuning of this and other AA/spells. You are making it sound like you are the only one that contributed to the resulting AA.

Odd, I never saw him claim to be solely responsible for this AA /boggle

He said he did tuning, he didn't say he was the ONLY one who helped with tuning. We finally have an active CC who listens and then actually does something about it and people still complain and give him grief for it. :ohwell:

Oh and for the record, I have rank II of this one so far and I find I am using it constantly. I had my doubts in beta since at face value the damage appears small. But when you see how it actually works and how often it can be used, it is a really nice ability and a great addition for us.

Odd, I never saw him claim to be solely responsible for this AA /boggle

He said he did tuning, he didn't say he was the ONLY one who helped with tuning. We finally have an active CC who listens and then actually does something about it and people still complain and give him grief for it. :ohwell:

Nodyin did the tuning actually - Fenier and others provided the feedback. Read the posts after his "I did lots of tuning" - people thanked him for it because his post made it sound like he was responsible for it all. There were others involved and I pointed it out.

A simple "Lot of the druids, including myself provided a lot feedback to this AA that saw it significantly revamped to what we have today" would have been a lot more appropriate.

Or you could not nitpick at wording, that'd work too.

Storm Strike.. Cool as hell.

How cool IS hell?

Or you could not nitpick at wording, that'd work too.

Or I could have made sure that people knew it was more than just him that help get this nifty new AA. That would work too.

You know, we finally have a CC that does things for us (TDG druids) and the other druids in EQ, and all you can do it bicker over wording in a post. Obviously he didn't do it single handedly, but the truth of the matter is - he did play a large role in getting things changed. I'd HATE to see where the druid spells would have been this expansion without Fenier as CC.

Some of the druids you mentioned in your post wanted to do away with the AA entirely. So, yes they did a fabulous job helping with the tuning.

Or I could have made sure that people knew it was more than just him that help get this nifty new AA. That would work too.

If it means anything, I got the same impression.

I have a hard time believing that people here think that only 1 person (not a developer) can "tune" anything.

It takes input from a lot of people. Some are more vocal. Some have chosen to take on the responsibility of helping tune certain content.

I wanted to congratulate nduma... he has posted in this forum. Does that mean he is the only one that posted? Does it mean he was the first to post? No, but he has contributed. Do you feel jaded that someone said "I did a good bit of tuning" and didn't in the same breath mention your name? Are you envious that Fenier is the CC? I don't understand why you are upset that he mentioned his work he had done on this aa and didn't list everyone else that helped by name.

Correct... Fenier did not go into the database and personally change the numbers. So I wish to amend your comment to "none of the people you listed did any actual tuning either."

No Aldier, I don't feel jaded he didn't mention my name because well, I didn't provide much feedback on that AA during beta. I did feel the urge to point that there were others, Fenier along side them, that contributed heavily to the feedback of the AA though and if people like this AA, then they have them to thank as well.

Sorry that resulted in this thread devolving into this. It turned out to be a nice AA from what I saw in beta, don't have the AA saved on live to buy it. Working on new GoM next.

I also find now when im the main healer I can still add to the dps. Im shocked other caster classes arent crying about this ability.

That's because they going .... Oh .... You have dps now??

Joking aside ... thanks a lot to the hard working druids in beta that I know not the names of and to you Fenier for a great job .... keep up the good work

I did a good bit of the tuning of this AA
-Fenier
Stop being such a glory hawg Fenier, you should have listed the exact % of tuning you did, rounded down to the nearest 1/1000th.
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Stop being such a glory hawg Fenier, you should have listed the exact % of tuning you did, rounded down to the nearest 1/1000th.
:twak:


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Whoa, Dose... haven't seen you around here in a while. Ya gotta help me rally everyone into getting us an ice dot.

Gratz on 80, I hope to have 78 by 2008 (damn you work).

i love this aa its very fun i just got to rember it works best well mosb has hi hp yet and need to rember i have theaa lol

Quick derail-

Hey Dose, are you the Dose of Quellious? Just curious.

Quick derail-

Hey Dose, are you the Dose of Quellious? Just curious.

Yes he is... he doesn't visit here often and may not even see this. He's the guild leader of Conviction (about 20th serverwide) and I'm an officer. We've "known" each other about 5 years.

Were you on Quellious as well? Anything I should pass on?

Yeah, I'm on Quellious. He probably doesn't remember me, but when I first started the game he helped me a lot. I haven't seen his name in a long, long time. Made me all nostalgic.

And lol, yeah, I know Conviction very well.

I was pretty disappointed after I bought Storm Strike. If you think anyone is going to be upset because you can put in 1-2k free damage every 30s you're still thinking about EQ as if it was still Kunark days. If they tripple the damage it will be "cool as hell". Now it's borderline "meh".

I was pretty disappointed after I bought Storm Strike. If you think anyone is going to be upset because you can put in 1-2k free damage every 30s you're still thinking about EQ as if it was still Kunark days. If they tripple the damage it will be "cool as hell". Now it's borderline "meh".

Ummm SK's harm touch wasnt near 2k when Kunark was out and that was once per day.

Look at it like this.. you do 1k more damage every 30 seconds mana free.. before you didnt... period. Thus its an improvement.

Whats the cast time? Instant? I don't see one listed.

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Ya gotta help me rally everyone into getting us an ice dot.

Much <3 for this idea. Nature's Freezing Wrath sounds pretty good to me! (not sure where the name originated, I heard the name from Fryar on CT)

Ummm SK's harm touch wasnt near 2k when Kunark was out and that was once per day.

Look at it like this.. you do 1k more damage every 30 seconds mana free.. before you didnt... period. Thus its an improvement.

Yeah, an improvement that's barely noticable in real content though. That's not saying a whole lot. It's still less damage (without the second hit, with it it's slightly more) than a level 60 nuke, the only thing it has over said low level nuke is the speed at which it is cast (mana on such a low level nuke is nearly negligible), but then you're sitting there waiting for it to refresh for 30 seconds.

It's only 35 / 61.666... DPS, and even then that isn't a constant DPS. It's a far cry from what Dire Charm was during it's heyday in PoP was, and for a class in such dire need of help in terms of DPS it's barely a drop in a bucket that has a hole in the bottom of it.

Now that we have the ability, it's easier to try to get it improved (esp. if Nodyin does AAs) for the next expansion. Let's just try to come up with suggested numbers/parses early.

Yeah, an improvement that's barely noticable in real content though. That's not saying a whole lot. It's still less damage (without the second hit, with it it's slightly more) than a level 60 nuke, the only thing it has over said low level nuke is the speed at which it is cast (mana on such a low level nuke is nearly negligible), but then you're sitting there waiting for it to refresh for 30 seconds.

It's only 35 / 61.666... DPS, and even then that isn't a constant DPS. It's a far cry from what Dire Charm was during it's heyday in PoP was, and for a class in such dire need of help in terms of DPS it's barely a drop in a bucket that has a hole in the bottom of it.I'll trade you my "dps spell" which I have to use a spell gem for and spend mana on, http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.html?id=15181&source=Live, for your free nuke. Mine is 1377 base, 45 second recast (so 30.6 dps if I chain it)...oh and did I mention it is disease based, with no resist modifier? So it actually lands for much, much less than base a significant portion of the time.

As you might surmise from that spell, yes I'm an SK, and you'll probably claim that I have no right to compare a spell of mine to an aa of yours. Along with the fact that I tank and you heal, I can picture a million arguments for why you'll disregard my comment, and in a way it is meant to be somewhat facetious because I know we aren't anywhere near equivalent classes. I think we all agree that both druids and SK's need a dps boost, but if you're going to complain about getting something free that is better than many classes get for their normal "dps" (and have to use mana and spell gems for), that just seems a little bit narrow-sighted. I'd spend 5 times the aa's it costs you for the same ability, in a heartbeat.

Flame away.

Question regarding Storm Strike: Will focus effects such as Arcane Detonation work with the Storm Strike AA to boost its strength, or is this a set amount of damage? I know it can do crits....

Set amount of damage, which can critical.

Set amount of damage, which can critical.

Thanks for the quick answer. :wink:

After I heard a bit of banter back and forth in SW:TDG, I purchased Storm Strike's first rank.

I basically started out like Tenille did, not remembering to utilize it until mobs were <50%, if at all.

Then as I was bored soloing, I remembered I switched out the normal spot for forage on the first lineup of spells and things I do and managed to nuke a mob for 2050+ and another 850 in the same casting.

I like it. It's rather more impressive than our Wrath of the Wild because it can crit (not with the power of AtU, but after it pays for itself in AA points over time, I still won't be disappointed with it).

With the super low casting time, the low resist rate and the seeming lack of aggro from this AA, I know I made a good choice to replace Forage on the main page with .. finally.

..

The .. uh .. earlier derision in a public setting is quite disappointing. I truly hope TDG doesn't become 'politically correct'.

From what I have observed, Fenier is not a glory hound nor an egomaniac--I trust that if he said 'I did a good bit of fine tuning Xxxxxx' he's not telling us that it's only great because he did all the work. Anyone that thinks that can't possibly know Fenier. /shrug

But anyone can find fault if they're looking for it. Anything can be misconstrued as malignant when observed incorrectly.


Great job, all who worked on this AA! /salute

~Tar'Kaiden
80 Druid
Quellious / Morden Rasp / Povar

I love this new AA . I use it as aboost of dmg after i cast a rain .I really only have good things to say about this aa. Good work on all who did feed back on this aa!