Just joined this forum and have been playing EQ for just over 3 months with my 1st Druid. I'm up to Level 50 and trying to upgrade some equipment. I ran out of cash, and looking to get some really quick. Any suggestions? Also - I read throught here looking and didn't seem much, but saw a reference to Charm Kiting - Couldn't find an explanation though... Can you explain?

Most cases, it's simply kiting with a charmed mob. You keep the target focused on you with high aggro spells, and have it run after you while your charmed pet beats on it. Of course, it helps if the pet runs faster than the target, which may be problematic if you keep your pet snared for safety purposes (you don't have to, obviously).

A SoE'ed DC'ed pet is good for this. It can keep up with most mobs, charm will never drop, and you keep the pet from being pounded out (DC pets don't take much pounding).

I've always thought charm kiting was letting the charmed pet tank. Wait for pet to get low on health then invis. Kill pet and find a fresh pet. Have it kill the original mob. Have pet attack a mob until it's low on health. Invis. Kill pet. Rinse and repeat.

Now that I think of it, it sounds more like swarm kiting than charm kiting. Then again, swarm kiting is charm kiting so ... eh.

Well, it's not really kiting if the pet and target are hitting each other, is it?

What you describe is a mixture of plain, old pet charming (the pet and mob attack each other), and swarm kiting (killing off a former pet as you run around looking for another pet to keep fighting the target). What I used to do with frogs in PoS was simply have them fight each other (pet is not hasted) until both were near death, and then use innate camo to break charm. Ideally, both the former pet and the target were below 5% hp at that point, and a nuke would finish them off. Once I even had both die to the other's poison after the break, giving me full XP without having to cast a DD...:)

It's just that it normally doesn't make sense to charm kite considering the randomness and danger of an unsnared charm.

The other issue about charm kiting as you described is that there isn't a way to turn taunt off with a charmed pet. You can aggro till your blue in the face, all it takes is for your pet to get good taunt in and all your efforts are wasted.

Yeah, I was talking about a variation on bard style swarm kiting. Our swarms being a paltry two mobs to the bard's twenty.

Charm kiting works well if you ensnare the pet and keep bonds of tunare on the target. The hard part is keeping bonds on the target, it does last almost 2 minutes but if you get resists along with a charm break you can get into a jam (not to mention the mana each bonds sucks away). I would only use this method if good charmable mobs are in short supply.

I'd really think charm kiting is only somewhat worth it if you have a DC pet which wouldn't really be able to tank.

As in your regard to your question on making plat. Best bet is gonna be CS. Yes I know it's an exp spot (and not so good at your lvl either) But they drop furst that sell up to 100pp a piece depending on your server. On solusek Ro I usually sell them about 75pp each. Also the quest gems are good for selling to vendors if you dont have patience to sell them in the Bazaar. I did a quest in PoK once when I was 45 that took about 5mins to do and made 30pp after cost of doing quest too. Eventually I did it so much in a single day I had 1k, some new coldain skin gloves and dinged 46 lol. Hope this little advice helps with your plat issue.

Kalest MoonGlade
65th Storm Warden of Tunare
Solusek Ro.

When I did allot of charm kiting I would always snare both, pet and target.

The key was to use strafing and just go in circles around your pet / target. That way I could keep my eye on the action without need to turn around and make my pet was still in range.

It was pretty easy, essentially your pet doesn't move much at all while the target chases you in a circle.

It's pretty easy to keep agro on a target. That little level 1 spell called flamelick out agros most every spell we have....and you can chain cast it for good agro. If you've ever been in a agro kite group as the puller, you know how to keep agro.

Racmoor