So Scirocco has won the game (I know, its just a joke)....max tradeskill, level, AA, and likely as many AP's as he needs.

lets vote for an alt for him.


Kitty,
Frog,

Those are all far to new. They are out.

Pure melee...hmmm that might suck a bit, but it would be a good change for him.

Hybrid? I see some potential here, perhaps a SK.

Caster? Healer is out. Pet class is out, though Enchanter would not be to bad.

After all those tradeskills a Bard would only add to potential Carpel Tunnel Syndrom.

Ok, its got to be tall and kinda unique. I think Euradite Warrior is pushing it a bit though. Intellegence would be a plus. He is charming enough so something more sinister may apply here.

OK, this is hard. Lets say....


Female Euradite Enchantress.

barring that a Male Human Monk or Male Barbarian Rogue.



See you in Qeynos Scirocco :)

Gnome Warrior!

I think Erudites make very sexy paladins and SK's...

I vote Erudite SK...so he can't recycle wis gear either...(tho Erudites have great starting INT)...

He should be a gnome warrior to punish him for picking a tall race and a caster. It'll even out the karma.

Most definately a gnome SK. Or a gnome warrior !

Gnome monk, maybe....:)


Somehow, I suspect the next character I make is going to be a dragon......

I made a bard so I can /duel my friends, and keep them mez locked while I go afk.

Originally posted by Stormlin
I made a bard so I can /duel my friends, and keep them mez locked while I go afk.

Ahahahahah, that's evil.

I love it.

Though they can always just /q out (and lose the duel)

Originally posted by Scirocco
Gnome monk, maybe....:)


Somehow, I suspect the next character I make is going to be a dragon......

Some of us already have a dragon ... ;)

Hmm I vote gnome warrior or Sk ! Maybe Gnome bard if gnomes can be bards ! =p

I have a dragon druid... oh wait... never mind

You didn't read this...

:)

Are you... /gasp Wuoshi?

I cast my vote for a Gnome Magician.

ogre beastlord.

has all you need later =)

pet, some dps.. slow's.. good selfbuffs, mana regen buff. and and and =)

tsk tsk ; )

Kerech, you doing Horizon's beta? I signed up, but couldn't ever get the software to work. How do you like being a dragon?

http://images.warcry.com/image.php?id=771

Originally posted by Scirocco
Kerech, you doing Horizon's beta? I signed up, but couldn't ever get the software to work. How do you like being a dragon?

Only thing I will say is that I lag more playing my dragon than any other of my characters :p

Originally posted by Scirocco
Gnome monk, maybe....:)


Somehow, I suspect the next character I make is going to be a dragon......

Someone is thinking of a company here in Mesa, AZ *cough Artifact Entertainment* that is making some nifty new MMORPG.

I've avoided MCS (Multiple Character Syndrome) successfully in Diablo, UO, EQ, DAoC, and D2. I don't start alts. Or, perhaps it's better to say that so far my alts have each started in new games...:)

Yes, Horizons looks interesting. While it appears to be another variant of FRPGing, and thus much of it will overlap with EQ, DAoC, etc., what I find interesting is the prospect of playing a dragon. I will buy the game and try it out just for that alone, unless it is totally unplayable from day one.

FRPG = ?

Fantasy Role-Playing Game.

Games with magic, monsters, swords, elves, dwarves, and short hairy folk....:)

A unicorn enchanter. :)

Fantasy Role-Playing Game.

Games with magic, monsters, swords, elves, dwarves, and short hairy folk....



Just like real life!

Ok, maybe I have been playing these games too long....

It's funny how it all followed Tolkien's model. Fantasy could have been like Shakespear's 12th night.

It's funny how it all followed Tolkien's model.


ore like Tolkien followed a long line of folklore and mythology as well.

AD&D drew many elements from Tolkien, but also from other sources as well (including directly from the above source F&M material). The magic system has Jack Vance written all over it, for example.

While I would say Tolkien was a modern popularizer of the style, and set many standards for the genre, the genre as a whole has moved well beyond him.

I don't know the works of Jack Vance, but Tolkien had a much more traditional approach to magic than you see in current fantasy fare (game or fiction). In Tolkien, there is very little spell slinging, and almost all of that is cenetered around using a powerful object rather than directly working magic.

Hmm...Gandalf lit some pine cones on fire in the HObbit, but he used a wand. Lots o magic swords (bane type maybe, but generally just a warning glow). Lots o magic rings (with uber mind control powers plus some invisibility thrown in).

agical creatures like wraiths and dragons, yes.

But you don't see Gandalf tossing fireballs.

The most enduring legacies of Tolkien as I see them:

1) Elves as fey but good creatures. Traditional folklore usually made elves menacing (in the way dwarves see them). Often they are more goblinlike, and generally very small. Sometimes beautiful yes, but always very dangerous, and not really friendly to humans.

Tolkien made elves into "a great race of a bygone era." They live basically forever, are all glowy-good, and are a symbol of the angelic. Also, the sense of them as a greatness fading into the darkness. It is kind of trite. But then, what do you do when the great superhuman race is flourshing? It is hard to write about them when they are in their ascendance.

2) Hobbits. They really have turned up just about everywhere in fantasy folklore, whatever they happen to be called.

3) Orcs. Can't swing a +3 cat without hitting an orc in the fantasy genre.

4) The basic plot of the lord of the rings (unlikely hero saves the world, overcoming insurmountable odds, all through strength of character and determination. big bad evil demon god enemy trying to take the world is defeated ignominiously by something so tiny it gets overlooked). The Epic Bildungsroman fantasy, if you will.

5) Mithril. Nuff said.

6) Dwarves and elves not getting along.


I am sure there are a few more, but this for me is what seems to surface everywhere which I would directly attribute to Tolkien.

<i>1) Elves as fey but good creatures. Traditional folklore usually made elves menacing (in the way dwarves see them). Often they are more goblinlike, and generally very small. Sometimes beautiful yes, but always very dangerous, and not really friendly to humans. </i>


Not quite true. The Seelie Court has been described as kind and benign, and as helping the poor with gifts of corn and bread. They are opposed by the evil Unseelie Court.

Santa Claus is sometimes described as an elf, of course.

Also, not all elves are small in folklore, although many are. Celtic lore describes elves as human-sized, I believe.



BTW, if you're looking for source material for D&D, check out:

http://www.geocities.com/rgfdfaq/sources.html



You'd be surprised at the books that PRE-date the Lord of the Rings (1954-55), and are contemporaries of the Hobbit (1937), e.g.:

E.R. Eddison, The Worm Ouroboros, 1922.
Poul Anderson, Three Hearts & Three Lions (short version), 1953.
L. Sprague deCamp & Fletcher Pratt, Incompleat Enchanter, 1941. Fritz Lieber, Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser stories, first 1939.
A. Merrit. Moon Pool. 1919; Creep Shadow Creep, 1934.
Jack Vance, Dying Earth stories, first 1950.


Since you mention your unfamiliarity with Jack Vance, let me recommend The Dying Earth and Eyes of the Overlord. Here's what the above site had to say about D&D's magic system:

emorization system for spells
"Dying Earth" series, by Jack Vance, especially the story "Mazarian the Magician" in The Dying Earth by Jack Vance.

Spells named partly for their creators, partly for their function, and partly out of whimsy
"Dying Earth" series, by Jack Vance.

Hypnotic Pattern
Extrapolated from "Felojun's Second Hypnotic Spell" in the story "Mazarian the Magician" in The Dying Earth by Jack Vance.

Imprisonment
Taken from "The Spell of Forlorn Encystment" in Eyes of the Overworld by Jack Vance.

Prismatic Spray
Taken from "The Excellent Prismatic Spray" spell in the story "Mazarian the Magician" in The Dying Earth by Jack Vance.

I think Scirocco should make a froglok alt to try and appease the gods for all the frogs he killed. =)

Since 52.34% of this thread is about *that new game*, moved to OT.

Great picture OldOak!!!! =)

Yah that was bumping around in my heada bit but I was thinking about the larger body of oh medieval beliefs that elves lived under their hills and were prone to abduct children, take you out of time for extended periods, or take you away entirely.

I know there is some more positive stuff in Irish / Celtic lore (older more original stuff). I also don't really have a good knowledge of how elves were in Scandinavian myth.

Again, a large body of that lore made them out to be at the least mischievious, and definitely inscrutable....and most often, dangerous.

ummm Gandalf did throw a "fireball" in the Mines of Moria...in the book at least.

Of course Gandalf the "wizard" was actually more of an angel, a very rare and ancient being.

Or better he can make another druid named Scirocco Jr and pass for his own admirator.

:p

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