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Oldoaktree
07-25-2003, 09:39 AM
...ok go!

Because I would like to see anything...anything at all...that is not the 7,000th version of the uber versus casual debate.

hell, if you would rather let it be the ketchup vs. catsup debate!

Stewwy
07-25-2003, 10:17 AM
I like them separate on my plate then dip them together with stuff. Makes a nice sweet/tangy twist.

yum!

chenier
07-25-2003, 10:36 AM
<img src="http://www.leesmarket.com/Shop/images/thumbs/66780300005.jpg"/>


That is all.

"Mustard should be <strong><span style="color:red;">HOT</span></strong>, it should clear your sinuses the moment you open the can, and should make your toes curl up if you slap too much on your ham sandwich."
--from http://www.britishexpat.com/food/mustard.htm


<em>*edit because I can*</em>
THE FOLLOWING IS A MEDICAL AND BIBLICAL WARNING!!! DO NOT USE FRENCH'S MUSTARD AS IT IS SPAWN OF THE DEVIL!!!!

<img src="http://www.walgreens.com/dbimagecache/82747.gif"/>

Just say no!

Paldor
07-25-2003, 11:11 AM
Ketchup is king...

Mustard is bad... EXECEPT when you add Honey to it..

Honey Mustard is good.. especially on Chicken Fingers.

...


Ok... This really needs to move to the OT board <img src=http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/46065/spam1.gif>

Panamah
07-25-2003, 12:30 PM
While ketchup and mustard can taste good together, uber and casual can't ever coexist peacefully.

Therefore, Ketchup and Mustard are perfection.

Stewwy
07-25-2003, 01:00 PM
<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>While ketchup and mustard can taste good together, uber and casual can't ever coexist peacefully.

Therefore, Ketchup and Mustard are perfection.[/quote]

LOL

FyyrLuStorm
07-25-2003, 01:42 PM
"Ketchup and Mustard are perfection."

I keep my Catsup on the bottom, and the Mustard on the top.

I don't like Catsup touching my lettuce or cheese.

While Mustard has to go next to the cheese.

Panamah
07-25-2003, 01:44 PM
The French are fanatics about mustard. I know, I watch the food channel.

My sister makes this mustard for thanksgiving and xmas that is wonderful. It's so hot, it makes your eyes tear up and your nose run and it's sweet too. You put it on ham and turkey and it's fabulous!

NegBB
07-25-2003, 04:26 PM
You got your know-it-all-degree off of the food channel also?!

Panamah
07-25-2003, 04:28 PM
And I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night!

Impeccible credentials!

Tiane
07-25-2003, 04:36 PM
You all gotta think OUTSIDE THE BOX!!!!!!!!!!!! (much hate for that phrase..)

Mayonnaise... on everything!!!

BriennaMonk
07-25-2003, 04:39 PM
Pardon me... would you have any Grey Poupon?

chenier
07-25-2003, 05:44 PM
/preaches on about Colman's

Okay, so my boyfriend is English, right? He started eating steak with Colman's and I was all like, eeuhh!

OMG. It's the best. Throw out that nasty steak sauce. Smear a little hot mustard on steak (each bite). Now dat's perfection!

We even take our own bottle of Colman's to our favorite steak restaurant.

Mayo on fries ("omg, they're chips, dammit!") plz thx. And that's real mayo - none of this Kraft spread crap...

*on an English condiment roll*

Okay, next up: Salad Cream. It's da best! Way yummy on sammiches.

And finally, I gotta plug Bisto. Bisto is the most heavenly brown gravy, in granulated form. I know, it sounds disgusting and revolting. Gave a can of it to my grandmother, the all-wise, all-knowing producer of gravy (love ya, gram) - lo and behold the woman proclaimed that this was better than anything she could ever make.

And you just add water!

Bisto! Ask for it by name. /nod

Panamah
07-25-2003, 06:16 PM
Wait... are these foods you can find in the US? Never heard of Salad Cream or Bisto.

chenier
07-25-2003, 06:44 PM
www.britishdelights.com/ (http://www.britishdelights.com/)

omg....Walker's Prawn Crisps (that's potato chips for us Yanks)....to - die - for...boyfriend bought me a gross (i.e. 144) *box* of the single serving bags for Valetine's Day =)

There's lots of places to buy Brit food online...this just came up first in google...

chenier
07-25-2003, 06:49 PM
okay...one more English condiment and I'll give it a rest...

Henderson's Relish...pride of Yorkshire. Brewed and bottled in this itty bitty building in downtown Sheffield. Most Brits don't know about "Hendo's"...absolutely the world's best "worchestshire sauce" (which is what it sorta resembles).

I use it in everything...marinades...potatoes...salad dressings...bloody mary's....

IN-SANELY wonderful...they refuse to go "big", so it's just a hometown sorta thing. But you can buy it online:

www.hendersons-relish.co.uk/ (http://www.hendersons-relish.co.uk/)

When we were in England last winter, we stopped by and bought a gallon and a half jug. /covets her jug

***

People who say English food sucks don't know how to eat it - with English condiments!

...that and eat more curry.

<em>*edit for grammar*</em>

Meperidine
07-25-2003, 09:54 PM
mayonaisse is the most disgusting pseudo-food item to have ever been invented..i would rather scrape mud off the bottom of my shoe and use it as a condiment

TeriMoon
07-26-2003, 02:02 AM
Ketchup is disgusting. Yellow mustard is disgusting. Spicy mustards are a gift from god.

I think back to the great oreo vs chips ahoy debate that the GM started in general chat whilst half of Bristlebane was awaiting some confirmation that something was wrong with the server:

Oreos win. That is all.

Woland04
07-26-2003, 09:31 AM
Spicy mustard and mayonaise. Mmmm aioli. Ketchup is gross.

Oreos are so much better than chips ahoy on so many levels it's ludicrous to suggest otherwise

Panamah
07-26-2003, 09:37 AM
Ketchup is yummy. :)

Nothing like a home barbequed burger, stacked with REAL ripe tomatoes, onions, lettuce, ketchup, mayonaise and mustard (yeah, the brown kind!).

Had one last night, except I didn't have the onions and tomatoes on hand. It was a dissapointment. :(

Klath
07-26-2003, 09:44 AM
Some Ketchup is gross but there are some good ones. There are these little fast food places in Berlin that sell currywurst and the Ketchup they serve there is damn fine (as is the currywurst). I'm not sure what's in their Ketchup but it's spicier than anything I've found in the US.

Klath
07-26-2003, 09:48 AM
<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Nothing like a home barbequed burger, stacked with REAL ripe tomatoes, onions, lettuce, ketchup, mayonaise and mustard (yeah, the brown kind!).[/quote]

Now you've gone and made me hungry.

FyyrLuStorm
07-26-2003, 11:00 AM
Oreos win. That is all.

When milk is allied with Oreos, Oreos win.

If not, Chips Ahoy do.

Klath
07-26-2003, 11:34 AM
<a href="http://www.cinnabon.com/home.html" target="top">Cinnabon</a>'s are as addictive as Oreo's. In fact, I'm pretty sure crack is part of the recipe.

Tiane
07-26-2003, 01:43 PM
I'm tired of oreos. In fact I've coined a new term around the house for them... Boreos.

Gimme choco chip! President's Choice preferred!

Aldane
07-26-2003, 03:29 PM
Mustard! But...

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Mayonnaise... on everything!!![/quote]

Eh, no thanks, I'm on a diet. :) Look at the dietary information the next time you go to slather some on a piece of bread: mayonnaise is usually around, oh, 100% FAT. Bleh! :p

Regards,

Aldane Aglond
Ayonae Ro

Panamah
07-26-2003, 08:28 PM
Get the fat free kind!

TeriMoon
07-27-2003, 02:13 AM
If mayo is normal like 100% fat, then when you buy the fat free kind, what is it actually made from? Normal mayo is made from egg yolks and oil. Is it still ok to call the fat free kind it mayo? I mean, I've never heard of fat free oil or fat free egg yolks. It all seems very strange to me.

Just do miracle whip, its much better, and you don't wonder what its made from. Mayo is tasteless anyhow.

TeriMoon
07-27-2003, 02:14 AM
For the record, I don't happen to care for oreos much either. Cookies = boring. Give me coconut cream pie!

Panamah
07-27-2003, 07:01 AM
Teri, just don't think about it and everything is ok. ;)

Actually, they probably use stabilizers like gums to get the thickness in there. Gums are harmless derived from plants, like seaweed. Lets see... mayo gets alot of it's flavor from vinegar, a little from oil, a little from the eggs. They could use the white and not the yolk, or perhaps they can defat the yolks and turn them into a powder.

Next time I go to the store, I'll look at the ingredients on fat-free mayo.

Maody
07-27-2003, 07:19 AM
Comparing Ketchup and Mustard ist like comparing canned beer to rare wines ;P

Mustard is a science on its own. Personally i prefer the brand "Maille (http://www.maille.com/us/index.html)" if i have to buy it in a supermarked. But i am lucky to live in a region that is very famous for mustard making and there are literally hundreds of different kinds available on the local market.

If you like to learn more on mustards have a look at
the mustard museum (http://www.mustardmuseum.com/)

Ailuvan
07-28-2003, 06:52 AM
<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Get the fat free kind! [/quote]

Fat-free mayo. Is that anything like Caffiene-free Diet Coke?

What exactly _is_ the point of CFDC anyway? It's not no caffiene, it's got no sugar. It's fizzy brown water. I've sen more appetizing drink at the end of discharge pipes in North jersey :P

Panamah
07-28-2003, 06:55 AM
Well, I've always liked caffeine but the sugar has to go.

I wonder... where do they bottle DCFC? Jersey?

TeriMoon
07-28-2003, 07:01 AM
Pan -- there's a reason I don't eat hot dogs.

I have got to know what is in my food. BTW I used to live near a ketchup plant. Disgusting what goes in to any processed food. Organic home gardening is the only way.

By the time you defat the mayonnaise, read the label on how much sugar it has...

Mustard is much better for you anyhow. Clears the sinuses and all.

Ailuvan
07-28-2003, 07:12 AM
What world do you people live in where chemically searing the mucous membranes out fo your nasal passages and sinus is a good thing? :)

Though, hot mustard on good egg rolls is <3

Panamah
07-28-2003, 07:20 AM
<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>What world do you people live in where chemically searing the mucous membranes out fo your nasal passages and sinus is a good thing?[/quote]

It's kind of a fun thing! I like to think I'm exercising my sinuses because they begin to "sweat". :) Hard to exercise those little sinus passages! I bought a set of free weights for them, but they just wouldn't use 'em.

Oldoaktree
07-28-2003, 09:53 AM
...ketchup only on meatloaf (but must have it there).

Mayonaise is one of the 7 foods of the devil. There are 7 food items that are so bad that I always felt that they were proof of the existance of absolute evil - mayonaise, cooked spinach, pickles, relish, saurkraut, okra, raw shellfish.

Yes some of them are special cases of specific foods, but they are bad enough that i think they deserve their own category.

My favorite bizarre condiment choice was something I had in Colorado...Peanut butter on hamburgers. It may sound odd, but the peanut butter gets all melty and like a Thai peanut sauce, kinda. Good stuff...strange as it sounds.

Panamah
07-28-2003, 12:24 PM
Raw shellfish, like oysters and clams? Yummy! You put a little lemon juice on 'em and they taste... oceanic! Wash 'em down with Harp or Bass and life is good.

Or did you mean Ebi? Raw shrimp sushi? So sweet and nice. And then there's raw scallops, in a raw scallop hand roll with lots of wasabi... yum!

Wasabi is far more uber than ketchup or mustard!

Oldoaktree
07-28-2003, 12:36 PM
...is to drown it in something flavorful so you can swallow it hole only tasting the butter or lemon...

...and if it feels like something dead is tongue kissing you while you eat it...

...and then you must immediately bolt down alcohol so you can forget what you just tasted...


then yes, raw shellfish = evil!
(pinky to corner of mouth...)

Klath
07-28-2003, 01:16 PM
<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Or did you mean Ebi? Raw shrimp sushi?[/quote]
I think ebi is cooked and ama-ebi is raw. Either way, YUM! The heads are good too, tempura-style, along with a twist of lemon.

TeriMoon
07-28-2003, 01:37 PM
Ok, I must agree with Oldoak here, and I can add that the thought of eating any animal raw, especially those which remind me of the squished insides of insects, makes me nauseous.

Panamah
07-28-2003, 02:54 PM
I went to a Tepan restaurant once and the chef cooked up the shells from the shrimp tails (the part you normally toss away) into a nice crunchy treat.

Ok, I can see who the truly adventurous people on DG are! At least as far as food is concerned. :P

Oldoaktree
07-28-2003, 02:56 PM
...once....

But I also don't eat dishes again if I find em more novelty than pleasureable ; )

Woland04
07-28-2003, 02:56 PM
Mmmmmmmm sushi, mmmmmm shellfish (raw or cooked)

Wasabi surpasses mustard and ketchup, always has, always will.

I'll try just about any food though, so yeah.

Oldoaktree
07-28-2003, 03:01 PM
...I dare ya to slather a hotdog with wasabi!

Klath
07-28-2003, 03:09 PM
Panamah, I read in another thread that you live in the SD area. If you haven't been to <a href="http://entertainment.signonsandiego.com/profile?id=87023" target="top">Sushi Ota</a>, it is well worth a visit. The sushi there is very good and they'll make plenty of things that aren't on the menu. Be sure to sit at the bar and buy your chef a drink or two -- it's a good investment. :-)

Klath
07-28-2003, 03:11 PM
<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>...I dare ya to slather a hotdog with wasabi![/quote]
And I dare ya to eat it afterwards. :-)

Tiane
07-28-2003, 03:41 PM
Ironically I'm watching Fear Factor, so this talk of raw fish and other gross things isnt bothering me at all by comparison!

8P

I must reiterate my love of mayo though. Not miracle whip... that stuff isnt mayo, it's like twinkie filling... Real mayo! Easy to make yourself if you're worried! Eat it by the spoonful yum!

Love mayo!

Poutine is another guilty pleasure... strictly a canadian thing I believe tho :cool:

Tia

NegBB
07-28-2003, 05:01 PM
<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>mayonaisse is the most disgusting pseudo-food item to have ever been invented..i would rather scrape mud off the bottom of my shoe and use it as a condiment [/quote]

I agree wholeheartedly.. mayo is quite possibly proof that we as americans hate ourselves.

Ughh so sickening just even thinking about it blaaaaarrrgh

Woland04
07-28-2003, 06:21 PM
Gladly =)

Honestly when I eat hotdogs, it's generally Nathan's (they're not as good for you as turkey variations, but all beef is really the only way to have 'em) with lots of tomatoes and onions finely chopped, with mustard (never ever french's or other form of yellow mustard) Quite yummy

This wasabi and hotdog business you speak of will be tried, and if I remember to, I'll take pics for everyone here =p

Panamah
07-28-2003, 06:28 PM
I'd eat a hotdog with wasabi. Bet it's good!

I remember a party I had once where I served these crunchy peas coated with wasabi. People got mad because I didn't label them as hot, but after they got past that first shock, we started having contests to see how many you could eat at once without your head melting.

Panamah
07-28-2003, 06:30 PM
Oops, haven't been to Sushi Ota, yet! I think I've heard of it before though. Sushi Ona is good too... and Nobu's in Del Mar. When I go with my friends, we sit in front of Nobu's station and tell him to make us whatever he wants.

Woland04
07-28-2003, 07:14 PM
Wasabi peas are the greatest

Oldoaktree
07-28-2003, 07:25 PM
<img src="http://www.vinetreeorchards.com/Wasabipeaslg.jpg" style="border:0;"/>

Dras0
08-03-2003, 12:23 AM
"Okay, so my boyfriend is English, right? He started eating steak with Colman's and I was all like, eeuhh!

OMG. It's the best. Throw out that nasty steak sauce. Smear a little hot mustard on steak (each bite). Now dat's perfection!"

Urngh, simply the thought of tainting a nice steak with any sort of condiment makes me want to cry.

Klath
08-03-2003, 03:44 AM
<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Sushi Ona is good too... and Nobu's in Del Mar.[/quote]
I'll have to check both of those out the next time I'm down in that neck of the woods.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>When I go with my friends, we sit in front of Nobu's station and tell him to make us whatever he wants.[/quote]
That's exactly what I like to do too when I find a good place. As soon as the chef finds out that you're not squeamish they're usually happy to make all sorts of fun stuff for you.

Panamah
08-03-2003, 06:44 AM
I think you need to make a reservation at Nobu's though and tell them you want to sit at his station! Also, it's a little pricier than other sushi places. I think you'll probably end up paying about $40.00 to fill up your tum.

Autumn10
08-03-2003, 07:34 AM
Mustard rules, end of story.

Autumn10
08-03-2003, 07:38 AM
I almost forgot: french fries with gravy, salt, and pepper. If you're feeling adventurous you THEN add the ketchup. Damn good.

Aidon Rufflefuzz
08-04-2003, 11:35 PM
Without a doubt, the best mustard out there is Jack Daniels.

FyyrLuStorm
08-05-2003, 10:16 AM
This stuff here is heaven.

<img src="http://www.mendocinomustard.com/IMAGES/hotnsweet.jpg" style="border:0;"/>

chenier
08-06-2003, 10:10 PM
<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>What exactly _is_ the point of CFDC anyway? It's not no caffiene, it's got no sugar. It's fizzy brown water. I've sen more appetizing drink at the end of discharge pipes in North jersey :P[/quote]
Don't be baggin' on CFDC...it's my "rum-diluter"
<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I must reiterate my love of mayo though. Not miracle whip... that stuff isnt mayo, it's like twinkie filling... Real mayo! Easy to make yourself if you're worried! Eat it by the spoonful yum!

Love mayo![/quote]
Hear, hear. Of course it's all fat - it tastes good.
<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Urngh, simply the thought of tainting a nice steak with any sort of condiment makes me want to cry.[/quote]
Don't knock it til you try it - seriously.
<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Without a doubt, the best mustard out there is Jack Daniels.[/quote]
Aidon, would you like some mustard with your booze? =)

Sannen
08-20-2003, 11:59 AM
a hotdog is not complete until you have Catsup + Horseradish Mustard + onions (lots of them) + sweet relish = the ONLY way to fix a hotdog.

oh, and for those of you that are bored with Oreos...Uhohs ROCK THE HOUSE.

Alyster Weedgrowwer
08-20-2003, 07:06 PM
This thread owns!

Ketchup > Mustard

Naathan Kaine
08-20-2003, 07:19 PM
I like to mix ketchup and mustard and eat my fries with the goo thats left behind.

Aaeamdar
08-24-2003, 09:09 PM
The only function of Castup is as a Tomato replacement. Mustard is good all on its own. If you have fresh Tomatos, Catsup is pointless.

Panamah
08-24-2003, 09:40 PM
Tomatoes + Catsup = teh win

Iisbliss
08-25-2003, 03:11 AM
Ketchup is clearly for casuals, and kids, and people that consider french fries "food".

Mayonnaise is for those that are ready to start experimenting with real condiments, and want something more out of life than just the normal day to day routine.

Mustard is uber, and has real taste, real class, and is clearly for those with a discerning palate. Probably about 10% of the server population !!

chenier
08-25-2003, 07:10 AM
As much as I agree with you Iisbliss, /bonkbonkbonk!!!! =)

Stewwy
08-25-2003, 10:40 AM
Lisbliss that is one of the funniest things I have seen here in a while. :)

Panamah
08-25-2003, 01:32 PM
/em slathers a corn dog with cheap mustard at the fair and takes a happy bite.

You were saying Mustard is classy? ;P

Dang... now I'm hungry for corndogs.

Kyarra3
08-25-2003, 04:07 PM
Did you know that every person eats an average of TWO POUNDS of insect parts a year!

Ketchup and Pepper are two of the largest sources of these parts. YUM! YUM!

Panamah
08-25-2003, 05:44 PM
Well, I bet if you're an entymologist and go to their annual conference you're probably eating 3 pounds of insect parts a year. :)

Aaeamdar
08-25-2003, 07:11 PM
www.olympus.net/dggordon/EatABug.htm (http://www.olympus.net/dggordon/EatABug.htm)

Panamah
08-25-2003, 07:29 PM
<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Three Bee Salad [/quote]

ROFL!

Tils
08-26-2003, 04:49 AM
teases Chenier for being able to go out side to the local shop and buying all those things when I want :P


Tils

Panamah
08-26-2003, 06:42 AM
/jealous tils

I saw a recipe for clotted cream... I might just try to make it someday. My success with Creme Fraiche has emboldended me.

Aaeamdar
08-26-2003, 07:49 AM
I bought this book when it came out. I never got the nerve up to try and make anything from it, though if I did I would start with Scorpian Scallopine. Looks a lot like soft shell crab, which makes sense, since Crabs are pretty much giant bugs.

There were some great titles - Alpha-bait soup and Three Bee Salad were two of the funniest.

Anyway, if you do decide to eat bugs, I suggest Mustard! Catsup is so pedestrian. ;)

Panamah
08-26-2003, 07:54 AM
You know, I should buy it for my collection. I have quite a few cookbooks in my cooking cupboard including: The Anarchist's Cookbook

People crack up when they see that in my kitchen.

Oldoaktree
08-26-2003, 08:09 AM
But I bet they look carefully through whatever you serve them before they eat it.... ; )

chenier
08-26-2003, 08:33 AM
/whimpers at Tils

Actually, a lot of our local grocery stores are starting to carry stuff (at a price, Ugarte, at a price)...the thing, however, that they'll never be able to import are pubs*...=P

That and good, cheap bread. I go through brands and loaves of bread, trying to find something to please my bf like some people go through tins of cat food, trying to please a finicky cat. =P

*and roadside cafes...nothing like a huge, greasy plate of english breakfast, a cup of tea and a smoke while on the road...nummy