Hey, I've been doing Wyverns for awhile as my source of exp, but as hit 54 I notice a few more light blues and suspect that it will be light blues and greens by 56/57ish. Where would my next location to quad be after they become no longer useable? Thanks in advance. :)

Toilers in ME, Otters in CS, or if you have a large enough manapool man up and do nightmare :)

Are the toilers in an area where they will pretty much be safe to pull without adds?

I spent 55/56 in Skyfire, you can pull to around 0,0 and kite any single mobs there its always open camping to get your spells and used to be ok for cash.

After I got the spells I could, I moved to The Grey, and quadkited around the temple, until I hit 60 and could also afford my level 60 spells.

"Are the toilers in an area where they will pretty much be safe to pull without adds?"

You have to be careful with the actual pull, as there are lots of toilers around, but once you have your four, there is a nice spot between the lake and the zone wall that's just right for quadding. You will get a few wander into your area, but I found using the far-up-and-back view made it easy to see them in enough time to either avoid them, or safely add them to the mix.

If you wind up with more than four, you could always quad til almost OOM, and then root/rot using free DoTs while you med. A horse helps TONS for this.

I just noticed you're only 54, so you don't have the good root at 56, or Fist of Karana. You may want to be extra careful. I never went there until 59, so you will likely have a tougher time with it.

Give it a shot, but be careful. Also, they have about 7500HP, so make sure you have enough manapool to take them out. In all the time I spent there (all 59+ mind you), I NEVER had a single spell resisted, not even a partial on a nuke. They must have pathetic MR.

Tat

I got too many adds doing toilers and stuck with otters.

i stuck with otters and ... those skelly guys in the grey (disturbed remains? something like that)... up to 60, i think.

if you've got a decent mana-pool (4k+?) you can actually quad elysians. a bear to pull but a fun kill, nonetheless!

I got too many adds doing toilers and stuck with otters.


Nah, that's just how a druid swarm kites. I often would have 10 to 12 mobs in my pack in ME, which ensures that you get maximum effect out of your AoE. With MP3, about 8 FT, and KEI, I was able to keep going constantly. My personal record was 54 or 55 mob (mostly toilers) in one hour there one morning (I was the only one in the zone, so had plenty of mobs and plenty of room).

Or ... You can PBAoE kite. But only if you are brave (or foolish).

http://forums.thedruidsgrove.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3860

We got some heat for this thread. But it's something different and actually quite fun once you get the hang of it.

I used this strat in ME and CS. I didn't want to deal with the trap thingies in The Grey.

Max effect of our AoE? What are you using Scirocco?

I would die WAY too much trying to PBAoE kite lol I am the worst at getting things timed right based on distance. It sounds like a way to try to outdo bards. :p A rune spell might very well be useful in PBAoE if you can get an item that casts it.

Some alternatives to what has been already mentioned.

Head to Timorous deep quad raptors, can do these all the way to 60. Although things start to slow down once you reach the high 50'ish lvl.

Root dot elysian in UP to get your self elysian armor if u need it.
Root dot gorangas in ME ( Can quad these also, although i think your mana pool is to litle at 54)
Root dot in the grey, can do the area around the temple (many nameds pop here ) or just pull mobs to a zone wall and dot them down
U can also quad the grey, but still same problem at 54 you most likely dont have enough mana for it.

Personaly I think 54 is a litle low for quading in ME. Its doable but it might take you along time getting them down. Not really worth the hasle for you IMO, wait a few more lvl's then head back here.

If you know the area u can practicly avoid any adds. or if u get adds dont panic just include them in your kite, as Scirocco already metioned.

There is a hilll u can run along where only 1 mob spawns. Include this mob in your first quad and you then have this hill with plenty of space to quad on with out any adds.

Once u hit 58 and get your CH spell forget about quading the toilers. Charm a wolf, haste it, and give it a couple of the centy weapons from the camp, and go to town with it. with this wolf you can clear all the toilers before they respawn. the wolf will take some of the exp after the charm nerf, but still it will be pretty good exp at your lvl.

I did most of my early luclin AA here. Could make 1 AA in about 45 minutes wich was pretty good during luclin days.

Feeb, I was actually asking for suggestions after Wyverns cease to show a majority of dark blues so I'll be over 54 by then. Also, The charm nerf, You have to do at least 1 point of damage for the pet to not take exp I believe so it really wasn't a nerf...Correct me if I'm wrong though so I don't base my play on false knowledge.

You have to do 1 point of damage so the pet doesn't take nearly all of the experience.

You have to out damage your pet, for it to not take any experience.

Oh...Is it the same with other pets? IE. Necro pets?

ahh quading yes i can think of a few places to try. First i would advise getting c3 and possibly a luminicent staff from seb (Free level 34 AE but a long cast time, just enough time to cast if at max range) I myself hit 60 (pre PoP) in WL i quaded sentients for pretty good exp. After PoP i went to the Grey. you can med right next to the ssra temple, i sat at the NW corner and roamers never bother you. Pull golems at first they are easier, get them out of the way, learn the area, clear PHs for named golems who drop good loot! I quaded them in the area right behind the temple West side. after you get golems down you can try the snakes, more hp better exp, but exp isnt bad at all. id stay here until you get Command of Tunare. Once you do, go to Plane of Storms and do frogs in the forest. I was used to quading exp but frogs cost so little mana to do and give so much exp (about 6% aa per frog even after nerf) that its faster to do them. Pull 2 frogs with glamor of tunare (MR debuff) snare them both, i pulled to the area north of the giant fort along the wall just past the static giants. root them on eachother, command of tunare one of them onto the other. they beat eachother down to nearly nothing, invis, burn, FULL xp for both (if you break charm in time). You can level at PoS frogs through 65 and all the AA's you can stand (it gets boring believe me) But the xp is worth it.

Alright thats my leveling guide hope you enjoy it.

Treehugin Hippies
65th Druid
Defiant of Vallon Zek

Originally posted by Treehugin
I myself hit 60 (pre PoP) in WL i quaded sentients for pretty good exp.

What level did you start doing the Sentients? I tried quadding them at 56 with Khieran but didn't have near enough mana. Of course her gear sucked, so that could have been the cause :)

i spent time quadding the geonids in WL a good bit, too. more for the gems for the 8th shawl than for xp, but it was viable.

Are those Geonids similar to the ones that are in Crystal Caverns with the exception of the level difference Alyn?

I did 2 quads of raptors at 54 before I said, this sucks.

That is when I found the Joys of Charming.

But that was pre PoP. Raptors have no loot. And you can charm in PoP and make cash. And it's more fun.

Having done charming before the exp change, during the change, and after the nerf, I can say if you are imaginative enough charming is more fun than quadding.

Not more fun than the multi kiting Scirocco spoke of, but still fun. I doubt he did all those mobs using only his own mana. At that level you still are getting a little ROI out of your mana free toys.

By maximum efficiency, I mean that every AoE hit four mobs. With a typical quad, unless you have perfectly consistent hits, there will be a time when you only have 2 or 3 mobs left. Or during the run, where little geographical features can cause the pack to break up slightly, resulting in only 3 of 4 being hit. When you have a pack of 12 behind you, you can cast in the center and expect to hit four mobs every time.

Froginating in PoS was faster XP, though...:)

I love to quad but the range from 52-58 was frustrating so I switched to charming. I also had too many adds in ME, and was clearly not as skilled as Scirocco. ;) But around 57 or 58 I went to the temple in Ssra and otters in CS.

63 was when the fun really started though ~ basements in HoH! Wheeeee.

PoD is uber exp! I stopped quadding wyrvens at 53 as soon I got GoT and headed off to PoD.... when I got there I ran out past the green lake and headed by a big rock. To the left there are rats that you can ensnare, GoT and then use Call of Karana... from there move north of a the rock a little bit and park your pet. Flies should be a little east and to the north. Now for quadding... let me think :P I heard peeps stay with wyrvens till 55...lol maybe the little otters ? I tried that be4 at 53... I did fine...pulled the camp by Shyshrine..harmonyed everything then pulled the warriors 1 by 1........ Also, TD raptors but I never liked them, to many adds the damn wanderers pull alot lol and not lot of room.. I dont like the solitude either. Still I think charming is the best option

Which rats should I use if I charm in PoD? There is more than one type.

"I dont like the solitude either."

I was looking for a squid to keep me company at the time.