Cant get any groups.. Not a wizzy nor a Cleric.

Thats all they want. Try to tell them your a DPS,, they laugh at you.
Try to tell people you can heal a group by yourself and they laugh.

Even more so now, that I am seeing the higher teir zones, Less and less do I get in "groups" and more and more am i delegated to being the Wizzy, Ranger, Rogue, healer, in raids.

Tried to get a Sol Ro group for 2 days, nobody wanted me, they wanted clerics.

Nice people, i like them alot, would bend over backwards to help any of them.
but I am not a cleric.

I just feel worthless.

I think we have all gone through that at one stage or another. Find somewhere to solo for a while, get some time alone, I know, it sucks, the last thing I wanted to do was solo, but then suddenly, I started to get groups, yeah, I get more groups for my 65 ranger most of the time than my 65 druid, but the druid gets plenty of offers for groups now also.

Just curious, what role do druids play where they are the "rogue" in groups?

He meant he's being "stuck" as the rogue/wizard group healer on raids.

Which, imo, isn't a bad thing. People, including many raid leaders, forget the sheer damage mages and rogues can put out when they don't have to worry about dying because they have an industrious druid healing their dam happy asses.

In one guild I was in, the Rogues loved me so much they would specifically request I be grouped with them to keep em healthy.

Yes, Sorry if that didnt come across right.

IN most situations I am the healer for the DPS classes, and while this is fine.

AFTER the raids. When I go 65 Druid LFG ..... I get .........<Crickets>.


I KNOW the people in my guild like me, I seem to be real popular, people are always talking to me, we all joke around in guild chat. But when it comes time for groups , unless its a last resort I dont seem to be used much.

Last BoT group i was in with a guild mate. Cleric totally SUCKED. lvl 63 trying for fast exp, not ready for it, Tank bit it hard core, becasue I thought cleric was healing him and he was afk, (didnt tell us) , Next cleric gets nailed.

So I keep, ME, Chanter, Mage, Mage charmed pet, Chanter charmed pet, and ranger. all up against two Kreigers. Even rooted mage pet when It broke mez.

Now I was a TAD low on mana when I got done, but still no sweat, I was not worried. Most the people in the group, was flabergasted that I could do that. Becasue I was not a cleric.

I am not asking for a nerf of the clerics. All that I want, is something that will make me more wanted for groups. Tanks with 9k HP dont want a 4k heal, when they can get a 7k heal.

People who go to zones with no zone out.... Sol Ro Tower etc... dont want a druid, they want someone who can rez them when they die. Same for LDON.

I found that whenever we broke into a new level of the planes (long ago getting tactics flag, then sol ro tower, then elementals, even when LDoN came out) people would say, no, I need a cleric healer. No, I need better dps than a druid.

As soon as the excitment wears off, they come to their senses.

You can go to any class board and see the same thing. Hey, though, at least you can go to Sol Ro.

They obviously don't EXP much in Sol Ro. If you have a slower, it's SO easy. I barely throw a heal on my tank (one patch on inc usually is enough) and he isn't a top of the line SK by any means.

BTW, it's better being the DPS healer than being the raid leader/guild leader healer group. (In our case, a warrior) ... I'd like that DPS healer break sometime! :p

You don't really need anything new as a druid. What you need are guildmates who actually have a clue. I won't hold out any hope that a group of random folks will have a clue, though.

Plain and simple, the problem is that people don't know what you can do. You're just going to have to show them, as you did with your BoT experience.

I've never had problems with groupage and I am almost never LFG. If I want a group I simply make one.. its amazing how many people out there feel just like you .. they can't seem to get a group. If you make the group then you get to play the role you feel like playing that day. For example if I'm starting a ldon group I toss the cleric and throw in an extra DPS instead ( and hope for a pally as tank just in case we need rezzes heh ).. I'm a great healer and I know this so I don't mind the role... I haven't lost an adventure since I don't know when.

If I'm going for a group in tactics I'll bring a cleric but may not bother with a chanter for CC since that's what root parking is for.

In BoT I have made the weirdest groups but it almost always works out ( we'll not talk about the time when I brought in 3 rangers who should have been named Curly, Larry and Moe /shudders )

The fact of the matter is that the most certain way you could have to find a group at any time of the day, on any given day is to just suck it up and start the group yourself... I think you'd be amazed at how great it works once you get the hang of it.

I just think it comes down to a misconception of the druid class. People don't really realize just how much of a utility we are, and the expanse of our abilities until they see it first hand. I've had some times when I was CC, Healing and still had enough time to put out some DPS. With one class doing each of those tasks it opens up for a more dynamic group. The only groups I have trouble getting into are groups that already have a cleric. Since they have healing already, all other dps classes will out gun us. I find that 95% of the groups I get into have no cleric. Not complaining because it's more entertaining to really unload with heals, nukes, dots, debuffs and pull CC out of your ass to astound those that are non believers.

I would agree with Scirocco. Druids can hold their own, in most xp groups. People still have it in their minds a cleric is the end all xp group tool. A cleric is one of the better xp group healers, but not the only one to choose from. A Druid can keep, I would say 50-60% of all xp groups alive without a real problem. SolRo is one of those places a druid will have no problem healing for.

Solution?

A) Beat them all with meatcubes until they submit to the will of Druids.

B) Hope that WoW will not make Druids a class which is simply second or third fiddle across a few milieus and instead make us a unique desirable class :D

i felt this way around lvl 55 as i continued to solo in PoN and PoD never ever getting a group.... at 58 i started getting groups as ghetto clerics.... but the exp sucked so i went back to soling :lol:.

only remedy is to get some friends who might actually care about grouping with their friends, instead of making the perfect group. Or go make your own groups..... just remember what druids excel at, saving everyones ass when **** hits the fan, and no i dont mean evaccing like a pansy =)

A good involves a druid mostly when taking out high risk targets as our dps isnt *horrid* and our backup healing powers are second only to well... clerics.

I think there is a problem that generally when a group want to do something challenging they can't take a druid main healer, so druids have very little role at all. The original poster might be in that situation with his guild. Once his tanks become beefier they will be more confident with druids heals and burns as they see the zone as easy. Doesn't solve his problem now though.

I expect the poster is experienced so this advice isn't for him particularly. When I'm in a group I try not to be a second rate cleric or second rate wizzie but a first rate druid. Complement the skills of other classes in the group and help with crowd control, pulling, healing, damage dealing, debuffs, or whatever else you can add to that particular group. That's what I end up doing in LDoN hard dungeons and people are usually happy to have me there.

I gave up grouping as a general rule about ....4 years ago....

I dont LFG, I bitch at my guildmates constantly,

/gu "Group looking for a cleric"
me "you dont need a stinking cleric"

/gu "Group looking for DPS"
me "I am DPS you hopeless tards"

/gu "Group looking for anyone But a Druid"
me "200 DKP fine to everyone in that group" (cause I am officer and I can do that)

over the years, they learned their lesson, so I get groups now.

my suggestion? make officer of your guild and beat some sense into them = )