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02-22-2004, 04:09 PM

I just installed a new thermostat... one with remote controls. Yay me! However, attaching the little wires is a nightmare. In order to loop around the proper colored wire, I had to completely remove this teeny screw and the thing that holds down the wire because there was no way you could get it behind the screw and the nut thing. Each and every time, sometimes 4-5 times per wire, I'd drop these tiny little things into the carpet and they bounce around and I'd have to spend time on the hands and knees looking for them. /sigh

It took me maybe 2 hours to do this. Ok, so when I was predrilling the holes in the wall for the new unit I had the drill running backwards and it doesn't drill well going backwards. Then I got it going forwards and it kept binding up. Doh!

But really, it was the wiring thing that was the worst. I wonder how electricians manage this stuff, they must be pretty dexterous or have extra appendages because juggling a teeny screw and nut like thing and needle nosed pliers and screwdriver is kind of hard!

I just hope the remotes work because this sucker was expensive and I don't want to take it down and return it!

02-22-2004, 04:20 PM
holder downer things

Darn it, speak in language we can understand. Stop with the tech talk!! ;)

02-22-2004, 04:22 PM
you are sooo doomed.

02-22-2004, 04:53 PM
You know... the damned thing actually works. I can't believe it! Even after me dropping bits of it and not sure if the red wire goes on RC or RH. But I figured it didn't matter because they were jumpered together sortalike.

Oops, my fingers kept typing screen instead of screw. Too much computer talking I think.

And it just occurred to me how I could've done the loopy thing with the wire without having to remove the stupid screw. If I had poked the wire up past the screw thing and it came out the top, I could've made the loop then let it hook around the screw and pull it back down. I bet that would have worked. /sigh

02-22-2004, 07:37 PM
Technical stuff!

Sometimes you can't beat the non-technical. My motherboard (Abit IC7) has one of its corner and side mounting points blocked by a cooling system... so to stand the corner off from the case I used a piece of paper folded about 4-5 times and some sellotape :p

02-22-2004, 10:05 PM
I'll be impressed if you use chewing gum.

Actually, I'm not sure my thermostat is working right. It left the fan running long after the furnance stopped. /cry

02-22-2004, 10:37 PM
Panamah, read the manual and see if it's supposed to do that. Some thermostats are designed to have the fan run for 10 - 15 minutes after the heater part turns off to make sure that the unit doesn't over heat.

Another thing I'd check is that you don't have the fan set to "on" if you want it to turn off when the heater turns off. Personally, we leave our fan on 24/7 but that's because we have an electrostatic air cleaner unit in our HVAC system to cut down on the pollen/animal dander in the house.

Did you have an electronic thermostat before, or one of the old mercury switch types? If it was a mercury switch type, you'll want to call your local HazMat disposal place to see if there's any way you can get rid of it (federal law says those can't go to landfills, although most homeowners don't realize it).

02-22-2004, 11:11 PM
Fan was on Auto. It was really annoying because it was blowing cold air on me! The manual doesn't say. :\ I read it cover to cover. I had a mercury switch kind. Oops... I think I tossed it in the trash.

I'll call the thermostat company tomorrow and see what they say. There's a couple of jumpers on the back of the unit, one is either for Gas or Electric. Mine is a Gas furnance, but I think it has one of those electric lighting devices. The other jumper switch says MVC/Furn. It was set to MVC so I left it there.

I am looking forward to turning on the heat without getting out of bed. Mwahahaha!

Hey this is great. One woman advising another on heating/AC advise! We've come a long way baby!

02-23-2004, 09:35 AM
Something occurred to me as I was reading the posts here........

Panamah, you're blonde in RL, aren't you? :D

On another note: I've put in a few thermostats as well, and there are some manufacturer brands that simply can't make the change from a gas furnace to electric AC, so if you have both, double check it before you walk away from it. :) Also, I've found Honeywell to be THE most dependable of brands. Good luck!

02-23-2004, 10:39 AM
One woman advising another on heating/AC advise! We've come a long way baby!

It's amazing what you learn when you're broke, single and living in a house that is audibly decaying around you. I know more about plumbing, drywall, toilets/wax seals (ew!), electrical, dry rot, carpenter ants etc than I ever really wanted to know.

We have come a long way!

02-23-2004, 10:45 AM
Fan was on Auto. It was really annoying because it was blowing cold air on me! The manual doesn't say. :\ I read it cover to cover. I had a mercury switch kind. Oops... I think I tossed it in the trash.
Having the fan on auto usually means that it will run with the furnace off when the temperature is "reasonable" outside. So if it was 20 below it would probably not run, but who knows otherwise and I don't know if you would be able to adjust this "reasonable" temp without getting into the guts again and know what you are doing. Anyway, if you want the fan to not run when the furnace is not running, just set the fan to off and yes typically the fan will kick on a bit before and run a bit after to insure you don't overheat anything, but it shouldn't be for too long. I too leave my fan on most of the time so the air is being constantly filtered.

I'm a mechanical engineer here and I too hate all those little wires/screws/etc. that you have to deal with when you get into electronic devices. At least it means the thermostat is small, if a mech. engr. built it, it would be huge but easy to take apart and put back together :)

alyn cross
02-23-2004, 05:46 PM
those wire/nut combinations are designed the way they are that if you have it wrapped with the thread it works like a charm. if you're trying to screw it in with it bent around opposite the threading, it's a nightmare to keep it in place while you tighten, because you tighten, and the threading pushes it outwards.

if it's still too much a pain in the ass, a simple pair of jewelers tweezers or medical clamps will enable you to hold it in place without using your secret electrician's 3rd or 4th hand.

if you don't know what jeweler's tweezers are, go to a nice store and ask to look at loose diamonds =) it's almost as much fun as purchasing one!


02-23-2004, 06:05 PM
Alyn! I'm so totally impressed! You are gonna make some woman a wonderful wife one day!

alyn cross
02-23-2004, 06:21 PM
her name is alison, and 'one day' is sept. 25th!


oh, wait, you meant because i knew about wiring n stuff, right? yeah, thought so. women... always after a guy who's more handy than rich... i tell ya... sheesh!


ps... i cook, too. ya'll only have 6 months to steal me away from her before it's an i do done deal! /cackle