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Panamah
02-25-2004, 10:45 PM
Ok, remember this phrase then read the article below.

"it's easier to make a hole than build a pole".

For those of you that think gender is cut and dried, double-X or XY, read about this: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101040301-593551,00.html?cnn=yes

In 1993 Debbie Hartman was sure she was hearing things in her hospital room. She had just undergone a caesarean section, and the doctors were saying the baby was healthy but they weren't sure whether it was a boy or a girl. "I thought the drugs were making me hallucinate," she recalls. In fact, she was hearing just fine. But nothing about her child's biology — from the chromosomes to the reproductive tissue — conformed to the standard demarcations we have come to expect between the male and female sexes. In the language of developmental biologists, the baby was "intersexual."

Aly
02-26-2004, 12:09 AM
http://www.exileink.com/why.jpg

Tiane
02-26-2004, 01:09 AM
lol @ pic

B_Delacroix
02-26-2004, 08:10 AM
It is my guess that Panamah's new hobby is to incite battles on the druid's grove, that is why.

Panamah
02-26-2004, 11:04 AM
Remember that skit on SNL about Pat? What was that called? Everyone was trying to figure out if Pat was a male or female and they'd try to ask ... Pat leading questions to figure it out.

Cantatus
02-26-2004, 12:28 PM
It was called, "It's Pat!" :P

Araxx Darkroot
02-26-2004, 03:57 PM
Jamie Lee Curtis was born with both sexes and her parents were told to just let her evolve naturally. And she did rather well from the neck downwards I should say... :)

Chenier
02-26-2004, 06:36 PM
Jamie Lee Curtis is hot. =) Christopher Guest is a lucky guy.

Fyyr Lu'Storm
02-27-2004, 12:30 AM
"incite battles"

Wrong word.

You meant "incite thinking".

Panamah
02-27-2004, 01:02 AM
/hug Fyyr :)

I can't remember which of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy books it was in, but the phrase which I think changed the way I think about life, the universe and everything was:

"Everything you know is wrong".

This was when an old woman, nearing the end of her life span, saw Arthur and his girl friend flying outside her airplane window.

She took comfort in the fact that life which had been rather dull and boring and predictable, thinking she pretty well knew all the answers to everything she had encountered, and then this one little observation turned all of life's certainties upside down.

So I look forward to those moments in life that challenge my own preconceived notions and make me reexamine them and sometimes toss them onto the rubbish heap. Probably in large part due to reading Douglas Adams during my intellectually formative years. ;)

That and having friends that made me question my assumptions about everything...

We had this thing we called "The Delphi Project" periodically, where we'd take a topic, everyone would write a position paper and we'd have a moderated discussion of whatever subject we picked.

Some of our topics were "Should man want to live forever?" "What is obscenity?" There were more, but those are the 2 that I remember the most.

Ah, to in my 20's again! :)

Celaeno
02-28-2004, 05:33 PM
About Jamie Lee: http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/jamie.htm

And gender isn't even clear cut when the chromosomes and appearance are definite.