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seferon
03-08-2004, 08:44 AM
my guild has been farming vt like standard progresion. but with friends on test server have been saying they are opening up VT to everyone.... that means geting rid of the only thing second to elemental and time access to feal proud of in the game that means nerfing loots off of the name becuase txks are easyer then emp so lower guilds will no be able to farm them and make them easy to progress. also on test the long sought neck from ahr gained from soul essence has been nerfed to just ultravision this is a huge change and a horible one. if you can deny these please do becuase i would for this to be wrong. if you cant or can suport please /feedback

vt key imo is worth like 30aa its a huge step becuase this is a raid only zone this isnt xp like pop(wich they shouldnt have opened access was fairly easy) the only point of this zone the high hp mobs that are a pian in the arse to kill are to kill to a named and gain loot soe DO NOT open this zone you will have lost my cash a month and many others from Scarlet underground

Pissed off 65 season druid
of scarlet underground
terris-thule

ps this post may be in accuret i would love for that to be so and post below if it is i will edit if its wrong.

Regnon
03-08-2004, 12:45 PM
if they do this, after all the **** i went though to get my dam key, i swear i am gonna quit.

seferon
03-08-2004, 01:04 PM
same thing like half my guilds gona do this is by far worse then pop tiers opening up becuase its been around so long

Padrick
03-08-2004, 01:21 PM
This would suck big time.

They opened the planes to help progression and to let people XP there since you can xp in tier 2-3 easy enough.

VT you CANNOT xp in. It is only a raid zone so what is the point in opening the place up to all?

I really hope this doesnt go through

Tenidina
03-08-2004, 01:31 PM
Well I know on Lucy they are showing the effect on the Talisman of Vah Kerath as being Ultravision and not the HP/Mana Regen/DS that it is now, which will MAJORLY piss me off

Grygonos Thunderwulf
03-08-2004, 01:52 PM
this would be one for the record books if they pulled this crap.. hope it doesn't go through (from someone who's not even in VT)

Aly
03-08-2004, 02:15 PM
I hope it does happen, since they would never make the key quest fun to do... instead of being a boring, craptastic timesink.

B_Delacroix
03-08-2004, 02:16 PM
The date of April one is approaching fast.

princess0fdiabl0
03-08-2004, 02:38 PM
VT is not open on test, a lvl 25 bard is very adept at testing this.

quinalla
03-08-2004, 02:39 PM
Getting rid of the key to VT is not the solution IMO. Now, if they want to change so you have to maybe kill emp to get a flag or something similar, that would be better. Gathering the shards for the VT key is an un-fun timesink that brings out the worst in a lot of people, KSing, camp stealing, etc. I have not gotten it myself, but I helped my husband do the majority of them (since he is a rogue and couldn't solo them) and it was boring, boring and more boring.

I know it is "unfair" to change it for those who have done all the hard work (and believe me I know how much it sucks), but I can understand if they want to change it to make it not such a timesink. However, getting rid of the key all together is a bad idea. As for the item change, I have no idea on that one.

Faedia
03-08-2004, 03:11 PM
Well I know on Lucy they are showing the effect on the Talisman of Vah Kerath as being Ultravision and not the HP/Mana Regen/DS that it is now, which will MAJORLY piss me off

Don't worry :) There was a thread about the Talisman of Vah Kerrath over at TNZ about this. Brenlo posted that they're changing the way Effects are displayed on items, and Lucy can't handle it all yet.

Honestly I think this is just a rumor. (I hope it is, too.) I've seen plenty of people say "Well it's like this on test" yet they don't play there. I haven't seen a lick of first-hand info yet other than the level 25 bard. It doesn't clear up the other version of the story that's floating around, which is that VT is unkeyed for level 65 characters.

Boo, I say.

Drake09
03-08-2004, 03:33 PM
VT is not open on test, a lvl 25 bard is very adept at testing this.


Not to shatter your hopes, but if it was, there would more than likely be a level req on it.

Kaige
03-08-2004, 05:16 PM
A number of people have already tested it, and you get a "you're not holding the key" type message. If it was level required, you'd get something like a "you're will is not sufficient" message.

I can't see them opening VT anyway, its a freakin disaster for the ill-prepared. They'd have to redesign it and at least make a graveyard for it, if they made it public. Curious people would get creamed left and right :P

Then there's the KSing and other issues that would happen with people using coth bots versus when other people kill the mobs to despawn warders.

Sounds like more overall hassle than its worth to open it.

oddjob1244
03-08-2004, 05:41 PM
ROFL

Arienne
03-08-2004, 09:36 PM
Nah. Don't you think they would open VP before VT? It's not like SOE to open access to nice loot to anyone who can get to a zone in. But you have to admit it's great twink gear, and not many people would do the VT quest just to get a twink keyed. :D

Gaennen
03-09-2004, 04:59 AM
No mention of it on the Test boards

http://www.l33tgeek.com/testserver/index.php

AmonraSet
03-09-2004, 10:32 AM
I expect those PoFire mobs are summoning once more on test. And the Jboots got slower again.

Danixzzel
03-09-2004, 10:51 AM
Fungi is going no drop next patch too!

Logilitie
03-09-2004, 10:56 AM
pardon my language but if all this retoric comes true, it sounds like the next patch will SUCK.

VT should be a long drawn out quest like it is.
proves you're worthy.. not just being whatever leve.

the Tables in poFire are my favorite place BECUASE 1. they do NOT summon, and 2. the XP can't be beat. still a very real risk of death there. one stumble and those mobs aren't very forgiving.

Panamah
03-09-2004, 12:19 PM
VT should be a long drawn out quest like it is.
proves you're worthy.. not just being whatever leve.


Ah! A member of the Hairshirt Elite Corps, eh? Doing the VT key proves you're capable of wasting a lot of time doing boring stuff in a game. If you derive a sense of pride from that then by all means, sport your key with pride.

I'd imagine that if SOE unlocks VT they'll provide some nice thing to people that did that god awful quest to get their key. But this is sounding a lot like either misinformation or a hoax.

Glynna1
03-09-2004, 01:00 PM
Seferon can you point to any sites that show VT is opening up to everyone?

seferon
03-09-2004, 02:01 PM
no i have serched for information to prove or disprove this it is a romour that i have goten second hand from multipal people on my server tt and since i couldnt find any information. i was hopeing that the TDG comunity could help prove/disprove this im seriously hopeing for it to be disproved. yes im damn proud of my loooong boaring boaring camps and with the problem on lucy thank you i will tell my guild that suposedly the last talisman that was to be of great power from are server went to lainey :) but glade to know i still have a chance for it.

seferon
03-09-2004, 02:03 PM
aye i was thinking about the fact that soe hasnt done this to long out dated zones that very very few people get any more VP and they also didnt do it to a raid only zone sleepers so it makes since if they dont but we shall see tomarrow also will post back on if the necklace has been nerfed.(i think i have the dkp this time around)

Rainne
03-09-2004, 02:21 PM
Mayor Gubbin is dropping Jade Reavers again on Test. Someone passed that info on to me who got it from someone else who knows someone who's friend plays on Test.

Finni
03-10-2004, 04:14 AM
I've seen a HUUUUUUGE dragon in Lake Rathe on Test today.

Finni

Northerner
03-10-2004, 05:47 AM
If they wanted to revisit some of the VT loot (not all, just some) I would be more than happy with that. If they want to "open" the zone, I would quite frankly quit.

Now, you want to allow things like dropping ND Bane-Emp, Bane-Seru weapons in certain places? I am all over that. Change the VT VT-bane weapons to be more in-line with current content? Again, great! Include (no wait, imagine it) some Bane spells for VT/Luclin content or even for PoP/GoD content that are available on the moon and elsewhere? That too I like!

Trivializing older content that *many* guilds are still progressing through, at some sacrifice, though is a very, very, bad idea. Opening VP and ST would be equally as bad. You want to make things a bit easier? That's standard, it's been done for ST (more droppers) and for VT (changes in drop rates on shards) but that's all standard fare. Opening the zones, even with level restrictions, would be a nightmare though and specifically so for VT. Frankly, most guilds progress through into elementals now without VT but those who choose that path deserve rewards for doing so.

Wuven
03-10-2004, 07:54 AM
This is just another crazy rumor about what it happening on Test. I have played on Test for over 3 years now. There has been no mention of any changes to VT at all.

Actually it seems like almost all of the work being done now is on the new graphics engine.

Stewwy
03-10-2004, 11:25 AM
VT should be a long drawn out quest like it is.
proves you're worthy.. not just being whatever leve.


too freaking funny. LOL

No it only proves you have the time in your life to do long boring quests and have made the decision to spend many useless hours doing it. This doesn't make you worthy. LOL

Wow. I could have said alot more but the uber vs casual debate might spill over again and i don't want to be accused of that.

Logilitie
03-10-2004, 12:06 PM
i thnk it does prove worth.
a level 46, 47,....,55 is going to have a hard time doing the VT quest, with out some SERIOUS help.

YES it is a HUGE time sink...
but if you want VT to be handed to you on SILVER PLATTER.. haha
if you want it bad enough you'll do the quest. you're not going to go
solo in VT anyway.

Aly
03-10-2004, 02:22 PM
I don't mind doing quests. As long as they're a fun quest and not a craptastic timesink like the VT quest. The rogue epic quest is one of the best quests I've done. Combine quests with instanced zones... and some really good stuff could be made. They really dropped the ball with LDoN. It could've been so much more, but the damned marketing dept. pushed it out the door. GoD is a big step in the right direction however.

People whine about the High Pirest and scribe being near KOS mobs. Tough. Life's not always safe and carefree. Why not put some danger back into the game? I'd rather die fifty times trying to figure out a way to defeat a mob/survive a dungeon, than spend hours upon hours effortlessly killing weak mobs for some rare quest drop.

Stewwy
03-10-2004, 06:22 PM
i thnk it does prove worth.
a level 46, 47,....,55 is going to have a hard time doing the VT quest, with out some SERIOUS help.

Any moron can get to level 65 these days in little time at all. Keys doesn't prove worth, levels doesn't prove worth, AA's doesn't prove worth. My friend you can only judge your OWN worth based on the goals you set for yourself. You have NO right to judge anyones elses worth. What you are doing is defining a criteria to value yourself over others for some self promtional reasons. If getting the VT key makes YOU feel worthy, then more power to you, but I refuse to believe it has real value. Becoming a 250 smith is more tiem consuming costs more money and can be used to the betterment of the Norrathian community if one is generous. Now THAT is has worth. Who benefits from getting the VT key other than the key weilder? No one. What worth is that? None.

FYI - I want nothing to do with VT. I can make gear almost as good as VT gear with LDoN and can get gear just as good in GoD. There is a guild on Xegony that has been keyed for VT for 6 months but hasn't gotten one named mob yet due to being perma killed? Where's the worth in that? Worthless more like it.

Greggo
03-11-2004, 08:26 AM
You all get that this is a hoax right?

Panamah
03-11-2004, 03:53 PM
Was pretty sure it was...

Inthuul
03-16-2004, 01:48 PM
Everyone saying how boring the VT quest is... I enjoyed doing it quite a bit actually. Especially the run through Akheva ruins and killing Emp for the bit there. I have helped 5 other people get their shards and would glady help anyone else when I can. No joke, I love the quest and the zone... one of the more beautiful and interesting places, imo, to go.

Arienne
03-16-2004, 05:51 PM
Everyone saying how boring the VT quest is... I enjoyed doing it quite a bit actually. Especially the run through Akheva ruins and killing Emp for the bit there. I have helped 5 other people get their shards and would glady help anyone else when I can. No joke, I love the quest and the zone... one of the more beautiful and interesting places, imo, to go.The Akheva part was fun, I agree. I think the part that got to most people was the needless 20-50 hour camp for a single shard in ME. The zone itself has horrible pathing, mega training and being in the "outdoors" there are people who pull rares that pop and all they have to say is "oops. I didn't know you were camping this... but I just got my shard so it's all yours now".

Aluaeia
03-17-2004, 04:03 AM
The Akheva part was fun, I agree. I think the part that got to most people was the needless 20-50 hour camp for a single shard in ME. The zone itself has horrible pathing, mega training and being in the "outdoors" there are people who pull rares that pop and all they have to say is "oops. I didn't know you were camping this... but I just got my shard so it's all yours now".


Ahahaha... Man. I did that for myself and 3 friends. It owned. Especially since the group camping it was a guild that didn't end up killing emp for another 5 months.