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04-28-2004, 08:01 AM
Sunday night our guild managed our first rathe kill.

After everyone had hailed and PP depopped were were doing the loot bit and the zone crashed.

It back back up after a minute or so, but surprise surprise, no corpse, and anyone that had not been lucky enough to have a save happen lost their shield. We already have 2 coir kills and multiple xeg and fenin kills so now instead of about 65 people time flagged we have about 15.

After about 3hrs haging around in the zone, a GM decided we couldnt prove who was there for the kill so they couldnt give out the flags. I guess we have 15 pretty uber members that can do the whole encounter themselves.

We're all somewhat pissed off.

So I've got a screenshot of my with my last piece of time key, that I dont have anymore. Here was me thinking any resonable human being could see what had happened and do the right thing. :curse:

04-28-2004, 09:00 AM
Before they decided that Server GMs (Who knew something about the people who played on that server, the guild structure, the history, etc) were not valuable you may have gotten a better response.

But now that GMs only log in after a guide has been bugging the SWAT team for help with a petition for a few hours and they don't have a clue who your guild is it is unlikely to happen these days.

Congrats on Rathe kill, though. Sucks that things turned out as they did, but now that you have taken down Rathe Council once, I'm sure you will be stomping around in PoTime shortly.

04-28-2004, 01:08 PM
Sorry to hear about this =/

We were going to kill Rathe last night ... got all set up in the cave... and 15 people promptley went LD...after a few more random LD's we decided to TL out and hit another target in the hopes that tonights patch will fix things. But dont see anything about it in the patch message =/ And the night before that in PoEb things were just as crazy ...we were killing the named's....with at least 5 folks LD at any givin time.

04-28-2004, 04:14 PM
Something is wrong with poeb. We were going through backflagging on the ele gods while another guild was trying to kill rathe for the first time. While they were pulling their 10th ratheman spells just stopped working for everyone in the zone.

04-28-2004, 04:46 PM
Everytime you loot something nice ... destroy a copper. That forces a save and you get to keep your stuff.

04-28-2004, 08:28 PM
Also, do a /report every time you loot something nice or hail for a flag. I.e.

You have looted An Amazing Uberitem of Doom
/report Me looting uberitem

Reports cant be faked, and it gets sent to a seperate db so in the event of a server or zone crash, you can petition and they can look it up by searching for your "Me looting uberitem" string quite easily.

04-28-2004, 11:32 PM
Something is wrong with poeb. We were going through backflagging on the ele gods while another guild was trying to kill rathe for the first time. While they were pulling their 10th ratheman spells just stopped working for everyone in the zone.

Been there for a while and Poearth A and B has always been buggyish :p Sucks to hear, gm now days won't do anything really. They got too many tournaments to host that they won't have the time for petitions really. Something bugged? /feedback it /bye. :p

05-02-2004, 12:31 PM
It just amazes me that GMs will never help in this situation. Unless -their- log says "XXX killed the rathe and 15 people hailed before the server crashed" you arent getting anything done, no matter how much evidence you provide. I really wish SoE would adopt a "if it walks, looks, and quacks like a duck it's probably a duck" policy.

05-02-2004, 05:12 PM
The only thing Sony beleives is that YOU the player are dishonest and that THEY Sony have your money.

05-02-2004, 10:57 PM
actuly this is happening to me to allthough on a lesser case

zones its happened in

i had a geared corpse and a ungeared corpse then a patch comes along and i had loged out thinking to get the rezzes the next day low and behold my ungeared corpse in fire wasnt in fire so i say ok what ever bite the rezz think im going insane

steamfont there was a gm event with nasty monsters died trying to get corpse back x2 and say screw it after the event steamfont went down aparently so i go look for corpses no there go for geared corpse woot its there serch for ungeared and cant find them so i bring in a necro / cleric to rezz and summon me i loot out geared corpse necro says i dont ahve any corpses in the zone im like what i have 2 i do a /corpse nothing nada down 2 corpses wonder if theyll stop makeing more bugs and actuly fix somthing sometime

05-03-2004, 12:18 AM
Anytime you leave an ungeared corpse you are setting yourself up to loose it. Always forage at least one item just in case you die while on CR.

05-03-2004, 08:05 AM
In a gallaxy long ago and far far away.. We used to have Server GM's that you could talk to. Xave used to actually come and talk to you so you could show him what went wrong. Like when I got stuck in the door in Runnyeye, drowned under aviak island, got attacked by the underground spiders in DL, didn't get my paw for the rat ear pie or died 7 times in a row from a systems crash. You could say hi to them or chat with them when they performed weddings. They could pretty much tell when players were scaming them but for the most part trusted the players.

But that is just a fantasy world now. SoE has verified that all players are out to scam them and anything they say that might be to their advantage is a lie. Thank you for your money and do it again...

05-03-2004, 08:38 AM
Ah the legacy of Michelle Butler... That all started with VI, you know, not Sony. They're merely keeping on the tradition of not trusting the player *at all.* Not that you can blame them, players did indeed take huge advantage of gm's back in the day before they had real tools to track problems and events. And they were so slow to implement those tools, it was just easier to have a policy of mistrust and start reducing gm involvement. Come 4 years later and the gm's are in the far east responding in macro-lized english, and you're lucky if they even understand what your problem is.

Sad thing is it doesnt need to be that way... but in the process of spreading distrust, the core of the gm program grew rotten, and they couldnt even trust each other there was that much abuse going on. So offloading all that to a disinterested 3rd party is, in a way, an advantage for everyone concerned, at least as far as reducing corruption.

But the Butlers are gone and there's nobody left there who has any guts to take a stand and get the gm program working again. Yet another reason to give EQ2 a pass, because it's the very same people who screwed up EQ1's program working there now.


05-03-2004, 09:44 AM
Rathe has recently been a nightmare for us. We decided to do some backflagging for our new recruits and every 20 seconds or so we'd be losing people while pulling Tikis.

Couple that with people freezing after getting a rez etc., it certainly made a horrendous event even less fun. Hopefully we aren't going to need to do it again anytime soon.

05-04-2004, 12:34 AM
If SOE ever wants to impove their gm service ( 1 out of 100000000 chance) they should look at the gms in AO. They have the best gm service I have seen so far. petitions answered within 15 minutes max , gms host those dance parties almost everyday. ( well depends on which server you on ) They acutally have people to greet you the first day you started playing AO. Sadly the game kinda sucks after a while heh.