Ok another question on spell drops for GoD and mainly for those that have gotten past Uqua since I'm curious. I don't see an increase in spell drops and from what I think a lot of people perceived was that there would be a higher increase in drops. I'm not talking about the quest turn in one either.

Has anyone seen an increase of drops past Uqua?

I'm posting this here because I feel it has to do more with the expansion than discussing spell detail.

I'm still pissed at how rare our heal spell is... We refer to it as a myth.

Cleric heal spell used to be rare, too. Then by popular cleric rant, rave and demand, their heal spell became the rune turn in rather than a specific spell drop.

Anyone up for a whine fest? :D

Ancient spells used to drop like candy in Qvic - they were farmable with respawn time in minutes... so, quite correctly they got removed from those mobs. They do, however, now drop other GoD spells so you could feasibly farm those to get the spells you need (they need 20ish to kill efficiently). We killed 3 the other day and got one spell drop (ranger 65spell).

Heh. The cleric heal spell which results from the stone turn in is Holy Elixir (100hp/sec). The one we want (Holy Light, over 800hp/sec) is the rare one. And the reason we complained is that Holy Elixir wasn't dropping at all - while Order was both dropping and resulting from the stone handin.

the cyno guards dropped sylvan embers the other day, think that'll be the only dru spell they drop. Don't think I've seen both pre kod spells drop for any other classes since they changed it from ancient runes to old spells.

and think we already have the rune turn in thing too.

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=59975
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=59974
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=59906

the 3rd stone is just the old Kod geostone, the other ones are for all classes minus melees so those should be for the pre kod spells (melees didn't get discs at that lvl). Just have to figure out which makes Infusion and which makes Embers (and where they both drop!)

Mellen, theres another thread on the three types already. =)
http://www.forums.thedruidsgrove.org/showthread.php?t=8075

As far as which drops what:

Bards:
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Yiktu = War March of the Mastruq
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Eril = Dark Echo
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Jelki = Echo of the Trusik

Beastlords:
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Yiktu = Turepta Blood
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Eril = Trushar's Frost
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Jelki = Tureptan Spirit

Clerics:
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Yiktu = Holy Light
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Eril = Holy Order
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Jelki = Holy Elixir

Druids:
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Yiktu = Sylvan Infusion
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Eril = Sylvan Embers
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Jelki = Sylvan Fire

Enchanters:
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Yiktu = Apathy of Nihil
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Eril = Madness of the Ibbiki
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Jelki = Bliss of the Nihil

Magicians:
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Yiktu = Rock of Taelosia
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Eril = Monster Summoning IV
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Jelki = Elemental Siphon

Paladins:
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Yiktu = Light of Order
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Eril = Holy Order
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Jelki = Wave of Trushar

Monks:
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Jelki = Tome of Phantom Shadow

Necromancers:
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Yiktu = Night Fire
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Eril = Night's Beckon
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Jelki = Night Stalker

Rangers:
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Yiktu = Sylvan Light
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Eril = Sylvan Call
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Jelki = Sylvan Burn

Rogues:
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Jelki = Tome of Kyv Strike

Shadowknights:
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Yiktu = Mental Horror
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Eril = Miasmic Spear
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Jelki = Black Shroud

Shaman:
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Yiktu = Balance of the Nihil
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Eril = Daluda's Mending
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Jelki = Breath of Trushar

Warriors:
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Jelki = Tome of Bellow of the Mastruq

Wizards:
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Yiktu = Black Ice
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Eril = Telaka
Taelosian Geomancy Stone Jelki = White Fire

My own list compiled with a guildies post. Hope this helps =)

I got my Sylvan Infusion from the Sewers, Sylvan Embers from Vxed and my Sylvan Fire from a named in Kod'Taz (Hynid Howler or some such) Dropped DS Range Item, Geomancy Stone Jekli and another Geo Stone for the other spells can't recall which. Many folks have had 3 or 4 Geo Stones drop from nameds in KT and considering it's not too difficult to get there, they are reasonably common.

Wow Baggwinn, Im not sure if its a server thing, but we RARELY see spell drops on KT Named mobs - let alone 3 or 4! Perhaps they ninja changed something in the last 3 days (last time I saw a namer in KT) in which case after raids ill be heading back there tonight. Ive been trying to farm these for not only myself, but for the guild as well. Enchanters new ae mez is a lifesaver.

Grats on all three spells =)

Small Update:

Got Jelki from the Hynib Howler in KT. Received Sylvan Fire.

The Cragbeats Rager dropped 2 (two) Eril's in the same zone the day before. So apparantly the spell stones are not limited to a set stone. At least not as much as I assumed before.

As far as I know, the Infusion stone still only drops in the expeditions/trials.

Hope this helps.

All I need now is Sylvan Embers. Drops are getting more common

Got my Sylvian Infusion off a Hexxt named in Ferubi. So there are other options besides sewers/vxed for it.


Elder Wyndfoot
65th Storm Warden

Yukti stone is Sylvan Infusion
Eril stone is Sylvan Ember
Jelki is Sylvan Fire (original stone)

Teena,

You happened to catch the list above, right? :D

Anyone notice since the last patch that sewer named don't spawn as often and the drops seem to be less frequent?

You mean after waiting the 20-30min for them to pop in the zone Glynna? I havent had the patience to arm these yet, too busy on the alt, but I have been told the drop rate was lessened about the same time they "fixed" the spawnage of them....

Small Update:

As far as I know, the Infusion stone still only drops in the expeditions/trials.

Hope this helps.

I saw a Yiktu drop from a Kod'Taz named about a week ago. Pixxt or Hexxt something or other, near the zone line to Natimbi. :D

What ever became of the supposed "quests" for our spells that came out of the Summit? Any word?

Jelki rot even for twinks and apps. Yet I've still only personally seen a Yukti drop 2x and lost both rolls...

I think the "quest" is just the turning in of the stone for the relevant spell....

Spell drops in GoD suck hard, but considering their current stance of spells=gear, hardly surprising.

Course that's one less reason to bother with OOW.

I spent 3 hours last night killing in sewers, no named ever popped.

If they dont pop after 30minutes, none are going to. Its better to just back out - wait a few minutes, and get a new sewer expedition. They arent guaranteed sadly =(

In addition, Im not sure if they made the trigger being getting to a certain place in the zone - I thought I remember hearing about progressing through will spawn them...Ill definently chat with the guildies farming these in their downtime for hints.

On a side note - I havent tried soloing the sewers yet. I spend most of my GoD soloing time in Vxed/Tipt. Hows the difficulty compare Glynna?

Glynna,
spell drops and named in general in the sewers has gotten just plain BAD.

i see a named in one in maybe 5 or 6 sewers now and have seen runes drop off of about 1 in 7 named. and they are all the entry level rune. none of the second level runes yet, although i'm assured they do drop there sometimes.

i cycle between spawning the first set of mobs and checking for named or clearing the first round of phs and waiting for named on second round. so far, equal luck doing each, so your choice about how long you want to give each instance to cough up a named for you. on the bright side, these zones, much like tipt seems to, can detect the classes in your group to ensure the loot dropped is not usable by anyone in the zone. so THAT's fun.

Ancient spells used to drop like candy in Qvic - they were farmable with respawn time in minutes... so, quite correctly they got removed from those mobs. They do, however, now drop other GoD spells so you could feasibly farm those to get the spells you need (they need 20ish to kill efficiently). We killed 3 the other day and got one spell drop (ranger 65spell).
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So where do the ancient spells now drop?

Only mobs that can drop Chaos Runes are the 3 days. I've seen their guards/adds drop regular spells, but that seems to be pretty rare lately. Be nice if the Msha's had a chance to drop non-Jelki spells, but I'll just get the OoW heal at this point. Willing to bet I'll have a better shot at it.

A group of six ventured for the first time in KT on the weekend. Took out named near Natimbi zone-in. Eril rune dropped.

Regarding sewer named spawns, we tried for the #3 Sewers Quest three times before succeeding. First time two named spawned, second time all three named spawned, last time only one named spawned. Since we were going for the flag, we only took down one named in those three runs. No spell drop of course.

There is speculation (not fact) that nameds spawn more often during flagging expeditions. If true, this could be related to advancement in the dungeon. Perhaps if you stay too close to the zone-in, some nameds don't spawn. *shrug* -- could be idle speculation, but my limited observation supports this.

Also, on the run where 3 named spawned, the last named spawned after about 2 hours in the dungeon - yeah, we took a long time. (No, I'm not referring to the turn-in mob.) I can't remember the exact names but I think they were Sludge-Eating Fly, Rigara the Lost?, and a named Larva.

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i got Eril rune spell ( GoD Healing ) off Hynid Howler in KT this weekend to complete my GoD spells ( minus Chaos ).

during my XP session there ALL three spells dropped. We had never seen Eril drop in KT off named or otherwise, must be rare.

Only Chaos spells i've seen drop are off Cynosure ( boss of Qvic ) so these will continue to be somewhat rare.

Only Chaos spells i've seen drop are off Cynosure ( boss of Qvic ) so these will continue to be somewhat rare.

Same here

Finally tried to nail down the understanding of Named mobs in the sewers for spell drops etc. last night.

Given KT access, we were forced to do the Experience version (Gamesh) instead of the progression zones.

Consisted of: Paladin, Ranger, Cleric (boxed by the Pally), Druid (me), Zerker (boxed by me).

Tried The Pools first. 45min in, probably 80 or so mobs killed, no named in the entire zone. (Ranger, Rogue, and a spawn tracker program a friend has for researching purposes ;p).

Tried the pools again, same result. Though the random mob drop ( http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=68478 - went to the zerker as a 5hp upgrade...)

I finally suggested trying the Lair expedition - given it has 3 names on Allah's and 2 random zone drops for our twinks (an earring, and a very nice ring). After about 15-20 min the zone, killing as we progressed we found 3 named on track/program. All 3 spawned at the same time. The Blistered Larva and the Sludge Eating Fly were standing next to each other in the 3rd or fourth room. Rigara was 3/4 to the end of the zone (and way to far for us to bother with her for an Eril spelldrop and subpar int caster loot). All conned white.

- Blistered Larva dropped a BiC Cog, Eril spell, and +15 attack aug.

- Sludge Eating Fly dropped a BiC Cog, Yiktu spell, and the SHIV aug.

Needless to say, the zerker is 15 attack better this morning, and the druid has a new heal. =)

We discussed this, and the last time the other two in the group had tried to farm these they found the similar result in the Lairs, while attempting to spawn names for hours in the other 3. We were not able to determine (yet) if it was kill based or time based given both seemed to apply (20ish kills as far as my tired head could count, and about 20minutes in the dungeon). We do know however the named did not spawn from a PH we had killed in our progression - all 3 were ahead of where we were when they spawned. Sludge appears to be a static spawn, while the Blistered seems to be random - or possibly wandering. Rigara was in a room of literally 20 mobs. No thanks.

Both hit a 2.2k ac Paladin for 900ish and died quickly. Sorta resiliant to Sylvan Fire.

First time I have ever seen Yiktu personally, and maybe the second time Ive ever seen a Eril -- chances are this will be our expedition of choice for farming now. And this is after months of farming Ikkinz and KT.

I went to bed after but they were heading back for another one so I will check to see if my group was able to spawn the names again in the same fashion.

Druid healable, though they hit harder in this trial then the others it seems. I would bring a cleric to free up other abilities/lessen downtime. Pools on the other hand were easier then a normal LDON.

Hope this helps...

The Chaos Runes also drop from Iqthinxa Karnkvi in Qvic. 2 for 2 now and 0 for 2 on Cyno however he was kind enough to drop an Eril for one of our pallies 0_o

Iqthinxa Karnkvi, the stonemite event in Inktu'ta, and Noqufiel are the only ones that i've seen drop chaos runes pre-txevu. However, they always drop a chaos rune so they do eventually filter down to the classes with less desirable spells/discs.

We've killed Karnkvi i think 6 times and 4 chaos for us :(. . .
got 4 Cynosure kills and NO Chaos from him.. he does drop lots of armor for us though.. 2 Shawls of the Void last night.

haven't ventured deep enough in Inktu'ta to know.

Lair Update:

Did 4 more lair runs to check spawns.

- Rigara has a random spawn location.
- Spells are not guaranteed - in fact we were 0-3 in names last night as opposed to 3/3 the night before.
- The 20kill/spawn seems to be the first possible spawn time. 0-3 names can spawn during this wave. We had no more then 2 last night.