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Stormhaven
10-01-2004, 05:10 PM
Please post known issues, bugs, items of that sort here. Lets leave the other thread for people discussing "How to's".

kithkin
10-01-2004, 05:55 PM
Not all of these are necessarily "bugs", but perhaps, flaws.

1) Goblin Hider Event: Anyone can kill and loot the goblin hider, no matter who starts the event. Has lead to massive kill stealing.

2) Ulthork Raider Event: No other epic has a piece that possibly does not drop. It is far too uncommon of a drop. People reporting killing the ulthork up to 10 times before it dropped.

3) North Ro Madman: Random low level characters kill the quest mob because he is green. Would be nice if he was not attackable.

3) Tox Skeleton event: It seems that when the skeletons return at the event end, one of them gets suck and warps into the wall at times.

4) Feerrott Mangled Head combine: The ghost bugs after 1 person does it making it impossible for anyone else to complete the combine. All soul stones vanish and you are stuck with a 2 hour camp of madman.

5) Please confirm whether or not the bear event in Plane of Justice isn't 30 hours........

Why are druids being punished in their epic? It has the least amount of information or clues, has far more contested items. I've researched other 1.5 epics, and they are far more trival compared to ours......

Nilwean
10-01-2004, 06:50 PM
2) Ulthork Raider Event: No other epic has a piece that possibly does not drop. It is far too uncommon of a drop. People reporting killing the ulthork up to 10 times before it dropped.

Beastlord epic has a piece that is a rare drop from a named in Maiden's Eye.

Firemynd
10-02-2004, 01:19 AM
Beastlord epic has a piece that is a rare drop from a named in Maiden's Eye.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

~Firemynd

Ajjantis
10-02-2004, 08:27 AM
Feerot combine got fixed today, wait 15-20 minuts after another druid did it and go ahead and do your turn. But make sure first if the spirit is up still, you never know. 2 druids did the combine allready on my server after it was not working for 2 days

Jhoric
10-02-2004, 09:25 AM
Got hasty note. Covern seems bugged and not spawning. Have waited for 2 in game days, still no spawns.

seferon
10-02-2004, 09:41 AM
add the coven in sk not spawning as a bug over 5 days went by yesterday and im re at it agin today :banghead: gms wont respond to petiton on this one btw

Bruddarr
10-02-2004, 10:31 AM
i got my drop from the ulthork raider on the second kill /shrug

Debt
10-02-2004, 03:56 PM
Its been 3 game days and no coven :(

karbacth
10-03-2004, 01:41 AM
I really hope the Coven is a bug, an event that seems to be an uncommon type spawn shouldnt happen when the spawn can only happen once every 72 minutes.

Please just make it fixed time, every night, every other, 1 in 3, whatever, but having to wait from 1 to 7 or 8 days is rediculous. Not all of us can solo it, or want to risk it. I can get a friend or 2 to come help, but I can't subject people to sitting at an event that may or may not spawn every 72 minutes, with seemingly no rhyme or reason.

Kurwin_Torv
10-03-2004, 02:14 AM
I have done everything up to the Runed Skull. I went to PoK to get my books and the Pathfinder NPC says he doesnt see honesty in my eyes and wont give the books to me. I never did the goblin even they were up when I got to the zone. Is this stopping me from getting the books?

If so How do I learn goblin language?

Harrey
10-03-2004, 03:41 AM
not sure why he says that, but you can easily learn gobby talk from a druid gm...im sure most people have TONS of saved up points they never thought they would use, well now is your chance...got me to 98 with it but ran out of points

Jhoric
10-03-2004, 05:17 AM
Was too tired to post this yesterday. I spent 8 consecutive in game days trying about every single combination possible to get SK coven to spawn. Nueko, the druid before me, spent all days yesterday (13 consecutive in game days) doing the same thing. Here is list of things that had no relevence to mob spawning (because they never did in 2 days):

Getting hasty note in the same day
Being invis at camp
Not being invis at camp
Being invis away from camp
Not being invis away from camp
Zoning into SK at 10pm/11pm and running to camp
Standing right where the trigger mob is
Not standing right where the trigger mob is

None of the above worked, and I'm sure I'm missing some stuff

So several druid had bugged and petitioned this. Of course the GM's didn't answer any of the petitions within the 6 hours which gave me the feeling that GM's were intentionally avoiding this as some others were hinting at.

I went into chat and started to bug GM's. The first GM acknowledged my presence after I had asked my question and received no answer. Then I asked again and he left chat. The second Gm came in, saw my question, and left. The third came in I asked if he/se could answer my question they said sure, then saw my question and left. The fourth GM was finally helpful, in at least a small way. After I explained the sitaution twice, he said that the spirit is working fine and that if I need help he can come online to help me. I told him for 3rd time that it isn't spirit in Feerrott I was talking about but mob in SK. He then said oh and appologized, and then when I asked him if he would do anything about it he said "Sure.....Jhoric...." and then proceeded to keep ignoring anything else I said thereafter.

So I logged back onto server to give the lack of response response back to those who were awaiting the response. Then I noticed some GM's were on so I gave one a tell directly, a senior guide. Got answered immediately and he/she listened to my questions actually. They said that the quest was working as it should be I said no and told him/her of the 13 and 8 consecutive in game daily trials that myself and Nueko were experiencing. He said he would let them know and they would investigate it, but I don't see anything positive happening anytime soon.

Only pattern that I can think of is that the coven is similar to the Feerrott problem in which it could only be done once, but that can't be the case because some people have had it done multiple times on one server.

The other thing was the first person to try and do this event had originally had the 3rd coven despawn on them so that could be a factor.

Sobe Silvertree
10-03-2004, 05:51 AM
Coven Spawn:

19.5 Hours (Real Hours) on MM - then next Game Day, another spawned.

Jhoric
10-03-2004, 09:58 AM
Had logged in this morning and waited for midnight - had no spawns. Waited the next midnight and much to my dismay the mobs spawned. They are rather tough, they had despawned within 4-5 minutes or so. They kept resisting roots and snares and dispelling themselves while dotting and snaring me. Couldn't even get one down to below 80% by the time they despawned. Spent most of my mana healing myself and rooting. Had brought one of the mobs down to 60% but then it went back up to 100% when I was dealing with the 2 others who were loose.

I figured that maybe the pattern would be something like what was said, 20 hour spawn and then a 2nd spawn directly after. That wasn't the case though, have waited 2midnights after now and no spawns. This is just silly.

Vixzen
10-03-2004, 11:44 AM
I think Goblin Hider event is bugged. Tried this morning on MM at about 3am. The event didn't start and the Hider's never spawned. 3 others came and tried to at 7pm EQ time, with Goblin disguise on, speaking in Goblin at the Droga entrance in FM. We also spammed and shouted and ooc'd too. Nothing started.

Rivenvale
10-03-2004, 02:00 PM
Vixzen - Did you have a goblin targeted when you said "start the event"? I targeted a Goblin Whipcracker at the entrance to Droga and the event started.

kithkin
10-03-2004, 07:17 PM
Well, I think the SK coven may be bugged, on ayonae ro anyway. I was in SK at around 1:30 pm central and have gone through 4 or so "12 midnight" game times. No spawns yet. I've tried in the ruined circle, both vis and invis, and outside the ruined circle both vis and invis. It's now almost 6:30 pm central, waiting on the next round. I also talked with a druid yesterday who was there and had tried all the "hints" given before and it didn't spawn once. She was there about 15 hours with no spawn at the point I talked to her. So, not sure what's up with that. Just want to say 5+ hours for a spawn sucks (I could understand it if it was the final spawn, but in the middle =/?)

I certainly hope it isn't a 19.5 +- 1 EQ day type of thing as posted earlier =(.

Vixzen
10-04-2004, 10:26 PM
no I didn't have a goblin targeted... I will try! ty :)

Rainne
10-05-2004, 12:59 PM
I just think the coven is completely random. It will or won't spawn at 12am. It took me 5 tries to get it. I did 2, camped to safe my buffs. When I logged in another druid had already claimed it. Lo, it spawned for them. Took me 3 more cycles over two days.

Invis, not invis, close, far doesn't matter as far as I'm concerned. Have the note in the zone and you have a random chance. It's certainly less time than several 1.0 camps I've done.

Banbin
10-05-2004, 06:19 PM
The treant in bugged in Kithicor.

The flag to spawn him is given before the Dranik part. However, the event will not respawn if the druid does not have the Draniks piece. I had 3 GMs sit in the zone with me observe and repop the zone and spawned after 15 seconds of repop. I have logs and screenshots of all of it if needed.

To spawn yours if the trigger is up, you need to petition. If you get a Guide ask to speak to a GM. Once you are speaking to a GM explain it to him and ask for the zone to be repoped.

The GM said he created a bug report of his own and tied mine to his and escalated it to a higher level and it should be fixed soon.

AbsorEQ
10-05-2004, 08:11 PM
There is indeed a bug with the Kithicor event.

If someone spawns the event and then fails to complete it (or just leaves, never starting it), then it does not reset properly. I'm working on fixing that, should be fixed soon.

I'll look into the SK coven thing, there might be a similar issue.

A

drithius
10-05-2004, 09:15 PM
Thanks for looking into this, Absor.

Caifan
10-05-2004, 11:28 PM
What about the drop rate on the totem from the Ulthork Raider? :banghead:

Fettin
10-06-2004, 01:23 AM
toxx skeletons aren't responding to what animating heads, and are killable on some servers

camped for 3 hours one night and nothing, at the time i couldn't cast on abandoned heretic pet but could cast on the skellies, i logged in about 12 hours llater and nothing had happened as far as the zone coming down, and i could cast on the pet and the skellies

2) Ulthork Raider Event: No other epic has a piece that possibly does not drop. It is far too uncommon of a drop. People reporting killing the ulthork up to 10 times before it dropped.
a guildy of mine is up to 14 or 15 kills i think with no totem

:robot:

seferon
10-06-2004, 05:46 AM
hey absorb can you just give us a offical word on if the ulthork raider is ment to be that uncommon (basicly the same as sk coven if not more rare and longer spawn time) or it is right as it is i have completed epic1.5 but i would like to know this for the druid friends that i have and for the whole community.

Darkleaf
10-06-2004, 08:50 AM
One thing at a time...

Let him investigate the Kith Event and perhaps the SK Event...

Then let's see if he can check into the raider...It might just be a rare drop guys...Who knows...

Himegimi
10-06-2004, 11:40 AM
So when will they fix the Kith event?

karbacth
10-06-2004, 12:09 PM
I imagine the response will be as fast as the Feerrott problem once its identified and a solution is devised.

Feerrott took what? about 36 hours? Thrusday afternoon we find out there is a problem, saturday morning they push in a new Feerrott.

Judging by how well most of the epics worked, and how well a lot of ours does, I bet the problems we are having are minor coding problems leading to big in game problems. All they other epic problems thus far (ours and others) have been resolved pretty quickly, so I hope that it keeps up for these issues.

Karanthal
10-06-2004, 12:31 PM
5) Please confirm whether or not the bear event in Plane of Justice isn't 30 hours........

The bear is definitely 2 hours. My first trip to PoJ i noticed the bear was uncharmable, i left it alone as I was about to log and I didnt know killing it would help or hinder.

The next day i got into PoJ a druid was camping there, she told be she had killed the uncharmable bear 1hr 30 ago and was waiting on respawn. I waited with her, at the 2hr mark a charmable bear spawned, it ran our of the room as expected and got killed by the gaolers.

I waited a further 2 hours, another charmable bear and did my handin. This time another druid was there and did the handin too - both successfully while one of us had the bear charmed. The bear ran off, but this time the gaolers aggroed the other druid who had charmed the bear and did the first handin. Possibly the bug is caused by multiple handins.


As for the SK event, has anyone seen the coven spawn at midnight and be sucessfully killed, but then they failed to spawn for the next few hours? Im guessing the event dosnt respawn propperly or deliberately takes longer after a fail.

AbsorEQ
10-06-2004, 03:13 PM
The Ulthork should drop the item every time. That's been fixed and should be live soon.

The skeletons don't respond to that phrase. Make sure you've got it exactly right... :)

And the Kith event is fixed and will be fixed soon too.

Still working on the South Karana thing.

A

Nimchip
10-06-2004, 03:15 PM
I hope this doesn't mean we have to wait until next week's patch.

Tinsi
10-06-2004, 03:23 PM
Thanks, Absor. Now go bribe a techie so you can take the zones in questions down for a quick fix without anyone noticing :)

I hear brandy works.

(For the techies, not for the servers!!)

Palidinaya
10-06-2004, 04:48 PM
Shoot.. I am just happy as a pig in doo doo that someone from EQ is actually "looking into" the problems...

AbsorEQ
10-06-2004, 05:08 PM
I hope this doesn't mean we have to wait until next week's patch.

No, once testing has looked at it, we'll have the zone pushed.

A

AbsorEQ
10-06-2004, 05:09 PM
Shoot.. I am just happy as a pig in doo doo that someone from EQ is actually "looking into" the problems...

Ok, that's not a real pretty picture... :)

We've been very careful to watch over the epic quests and fix the issues as fast as we can. I've been slow to report status to you on the fixes, and I appologize for that, but we've been all over these things.

A

Ajjantis
10-06-2004, 05:15 PM
Ok, that's not a real pretty picture... :)

We've been very careful to watch over the epic quests and fix the issues as fast as we can. I've been slow to report status to you on the fixes, and I appologize for that, but we've been all over these things.

A
NM

AbsorEQ
10-06-2004, 05:17 PM
No, once testing has looked at it, we'll have the zone pushed.

A

See above. :)

Kryttos Arcadia
10-06-2004, 05:26 PM
any timeframe on that Absor? im looking to do that fight 2nite.

AbsorEQ
10-06-2004, 06:17 PM
Hopefully some of them will get pushed tonight (3am), but I can't promise that.

A

Taeana
10-06-2004, 06:27 PM
I want to say first of all that I'm having a lot of fun with the epic, seems to be a lot of creativity and thought put into it rather than just go kill x mob, bring loot to y npc, etc. I think once the bugs are ironed out it'll be a lot of fun.

Just wondering about the SK fight, this is most likely coincidence but wanted to bring it up. I got the goblin hider part before it was fixed, so never did the disguise. Another friend of mine also never did the disguise. Neither of us has ever got the SK coven to spawn while alone in the zone. Another druid I know did do the hider part completely with the disguise and all, and she's never had the coven not spawn for her when she's in the zone. Is it possible that since so many people didn't have to do the hider part "properly" that we're missing a flag or something for it that's causing the issues? Since most often when people are waiting there are other druids there, it's hard to say if maybe one of them is triggering the spawn. I'm dragging my friend who has the disguise with me out to the zone, even if it is coincidence she might just be good luck. :p I've done every single other little thing besides the disguise so can't think of anything else I've done different than my friend who has had it spawn every time.

Poitez
10-06-2004, 06:29 PM
Perhaps this is just me, but it seems the Epic 1..5 effect (Nature's Blight) isn't working, or isn't doing anything. I am making the assumption that is was supposed to increase spell damage by 5% on a given mob, but it doesn't do that. It's possible it has some other effect that just isn't as obvious though.

AbsorEQ
10-06-2004, 06:56 PM
I want to say first of all that I'm having a lot of fun with the epic, seems to be a lot of creativity and thought put into it rather than just go kill x mob, bring loot to y npc, etc. I think once the bugs are ironed out it'll be a lot of fun.

Just wondering about the SK fight, this is most likely coincidence but wanted to bring it up. I got the goblin hider part before it was fixed, so never did the disguise. Another friend of mine also never did the disguise. Neither of us has ever got the SK coven to spawn while alone in the zone. Another druid I know did do the hider part completely with the disguise and all, and she's never had the coven not spawn for her when she's in the zone. Is it possible that since so many people didn't have to do the hider part "properly" that we're missing a flag or something for it that's causing the issues? Since most often when people are waiting there are other druids there, it's hard to say if maybe one of them is triggering the spawn. I'm dragging my friend who has the disguise with me out to the zone, even if it is coincidence she might just be good luck. :p I've done every single other little thing besides the disguise so can't think of anything else I've done different than my friend who has had it spawn every time.

That's not the problem. There was a bug with the way the event spawned that I never noticed in testing involving the number of people in the zone. I found it and fixed it. Hopefully it can get through testing today or tomorrow and be fixed soon.

A

Jhoric
10-06-2004, 07:00 PM
Next can you fix the chests not spawning after epic encounters, like natimbi. Or do we have to wait weeks and many GM's to tell us that it is "working as intended" like this one to have it fixed? : P

Ajjantis
10-06-2004, 07:29 PM
Heading to bed, would rock if someone could leave a post here as soon as the fix are ingame. Thanks

Quaras
10-06-2004, 08:21 PM
Number of people in the zone? There WAS an anti-camp radius!

Sirra
10-06-2004, 08:27 PM
I got Raider on 2nd Kill, Seem to be a 2 hour soawn not 110mins..

Shadowknights also got Rare drops off mobs in Hate.. Again, Thay also got rare drops in PoGrowth and PoFear...

Pallys got rare drops in Umbral Planes off the Disturbed Ellysiems...

We arnt the only ones looks like Most of the Epics have atlest 1 rare camp

Taeana
10-06-2004, 11:39 PM
Thanks Absor! So exactly how many people do I need to bring to the zone (or kick out of the zone!) to get these to spawn tonight? ;)

Stormhaven
10-06-2004, 11:42 PM
Absor, Poitez's comment was echo'd by a few people in the in game chat - what exactly does the epic clicky do (or not do)?

drithius
10-07-2004, 01:48 AM
Filing this under bugs because it's obvious it is one...

I tested out Nature's blight today, taking off any focus effects to elminate the RNG from the test. Using Sylvan's fire on a Blighted mob, I nuked for a mighty 1705 damage repeatedly - the base damage for the spell.

So it would appear that, in addition to a high resist rate, this effect is also broken and does not work to increase spell damage taken.

Jhoric
10-07-2004, 08:28 AM
I've spent several consecutive in game days as the only person in SK. So that has nothing to do with coven not spawning.

Palidinaya
10-07-2004, 08:55 AM
:p So what's the good word?! Has anyone noticed if South Karana came down last night or not? I really don't want to run all the way back out there again to find that the same poor druid who has been there 47 hours is still out there =/

Darn it GET TO WORK! ;)

Dadarin
10-07-2004, 12:55 PM
Killed the Raider 2 times last night and no totem, just looked back here and saw Absor posted that this would maybe be pushed at 3am this morning. Anyone notice if that happened?

Taeana
10-07-2004, 12:56 PM
I noticed EW, FM, and Feerrott all came down, can't remember which other zones that may have effected parts of our epic, but did not see South Karana or Kithicor.

Lady Bryarrose Athenus
10-07-2004, 12:59 PM
Tunare: Thank you for the list Kithkin, could not agree more. All of these flaws are in my mind unaceptible.

In addition being at the final step now in Kithicor, the Blackend Treant is not spawning. I have had a tracker there near endlessly. I have traversed the zone to see if possibly related to proximity ( it is not), I am complete to all previous steps, hails, and quest pieces as have 3 known other druids my server with no Treant.

I did see the Blackened Treant early one morning breifly, so thought perhaps related to EQ time of day it was 12am, but has not been seen since.

Thank you druids of DruidsGrove once again for your thoughtful help and the gift of these forums.

Bryarrose

AbsorEQ
10-07-2004, 01:36 PM
The Feerrott fix for the compelled spirit should have gone in last night. Each druid should get their own spirit and should be able to complete that part of the quest no matter how many other druids are doing it.

The Frontier Mountains fix should have gone in last night. Only the person that triggered the event should be able to loot the prize from the hider.

The Ulthork should drop the item 100% of the time now.

Kithikor is still being tested.

I don't know anything about the focus effect, I'll pass that on to someone.

Poitez
10-07-2004, 01:44 PM
It was probably just an oversight in your typing but, for the record, it's the click effect that is bugged :).

Palidinaya
10-07-2004, 02:06 PM
What about South Karana? I was there this morning for a few cycles and not once did anything happen... Is this seriously being tested or looked at or are you blowing smoke up our leathers? This is really frustrating. We were told "epics are working as intended" and then to hear that there are finally some acknowledgements of bugs kinda somewhat takes away the credabilty.... I probably spelled that wrong. I am somewhat pissed that I wasted my time and some friends time on this yet again. /sigh.

Logilitie
10-07-2004, 02:55 PM
I'll tell you what chaps my leather hide:

The younger druids ( < 65 ) getting parts like coven and ulthork raider, when there probably NO chance in hell they are ever going be able to finish the epic.
Me and a couple other druids had to wait for a 64 Druid to finish his coven event, with his full group which we still assisted. This guy is a LONG LONG way from being able to do even the HS or Natimbi events, let alone DSR cracked Earthshaker or Dryad the uber raid treant.
I talked to him a few days later and he was sad that he couldn't get more folks to go 'help' him do HS part. He didn't even know where KT zone in was,
and I believe he only had partial ORNATE gear...

Many druids should think before they start such a quest, to make sure they can finish it. Many capable druids have to wait extra time to let younger druids just get parts for 'fun' or fail and just camp the event longer. I kind of wish the Epic 1.5 had a level limit like 68 and Epic 2.0 of 70 to help weed out some druids.

BIC is a similar quest that requires thinking before starting...
It's a HUGE quest, with great rewards, but it takes a LOT of dedication and farming and luck. Don't take a loot that someone else is closer to achieving, when you're only half-assedly doing the quest.

AbsorEQ
10-07-2004, 02:58 PM
What about South Karana? I was there this morning for a few cycles and not once did anything happen... Is this seriously being tested or looked at or are you blowing smoke up our leathers? This is really frustrating. We were told "epics are working as intended" and then to hear that there are finally some acknowledgements of bugs kinda somewhat takes away the credabilty.... I probably spelled that wrong. I am somewhat pissed that I wasted my time and some friends time on this yet again. /sigh.

I only got that fixed yesterday. Hopefully it will be pushed tonight. However, at the moment we are upgrading our Test server hardware, so testing can't look at my changes.

A

AbsorEQ
10-07-2004, 03:03 PM
( unprovoked speech off the cuff )

I'll tell you what chaps my hide:

The younger druids ( < 65 ) getting parts like coven and ulthork raider, when there probaly NO chance in hell they are ever going be able to finish the epic.
Me and a couple other druids had to wait for a 64 Druid to finish his covent event, with his full group which we still assisted. This guy is a LONG LONG way from being able to do even the HS or Natimbi events, let alone DSR cracked Earthshaker or Dryad the uber raid treant.
I talked to him a few days later and he was sad that he couldn't get more folks to go 'help' him do HS part. He didn't even know where KT zone in was,
and I believe he only had partial ORNATE gear...

Many druids should think before they start such a quest, to make sure they can finish it. Many capable druids have to wait extra time to let younger druids just get parts for 'fun' or fail and just camp the event longer. I kind of wish the Epic 1.5 had a level limit like 68 and Epic 2.0 of 70 to help weed out some druids.

BIC is a similar quest that requires thinking before starting...
It's a HUGE quest, with great rewards, but it takes a LOT of dedication and farming and luck. Don't take a loot that someone else is closer to achieving, when you're only half-assedly doing the quest.

I understand your frustration, but isn't that kind of unfair?

No matter how high level or well-equipped you are, you're going to have to do all the steps. It's like doing the Quillmain part of the Mage epic. I'd suggest that players do that part in their 40's when they can get exp in the zone while they hunt for the elusive pegasus.

A lot of people are doing these quests right now, and so people will be packing up behind the events. But these quests have such short respawns on the events that waiting really shouldn't be a problem, no matter how uber you are.

I encourage patience. :)

A

Logilitie
10-07-2004, 03:09 PM
I guess I really would like all Quest participants to think about their commitment before starting such a quest.
Kind of like a courtesy to other druids.
But by all means forage away while you're in RM, EJ, wherever XPing..

I enjoy the epic, and feel like it's worth all the time and effort to get it.
these longer more committed quests are great.

Quaras
10-07-2004, 03:12 PM
Thanks Absor. We appreciate you looking into these issues and fixing them so quickly.

I am still particularly concerned about the click effect of our epic because it has never been clear to me what the effect actually does (it appears it is intended to effect a curse allowing a greater effect for direct damage spells). It appears to be highly resistant and it also seems bugged.

I am particularly concerned because even if it works as intended, it does not appear to stack with other druids using the same effect. This seems to encourage guilds to get one or two druids to have an epic and then since the effects are not cumulative, neglect others who would love to have a similar effect. Please let us know if that is the intent.

KiloraDraconis
10-07-2004, 03:18 PM
The Coven doesnt seem to be spawning either on MT. I stayed for 2 days and still no spawn yet so I sent in bug report.

It is really sad how GM's from what you guys are saying aren't doing a darn thing about it /sigh. Then again why should I be surprised /lowers head

Oh well hope something is done soon to fix this.

Pulvani
10-07-2004, 04:23 PM
I only got that fixed yesterday. Hopefully it will be pushed tonight. However, at the moment we are upgrading our Test server hardware, so testing can't look at my changes.

A

Posted today. It appears that they ARE doing a darn thing about it...lots of things. I've seen several posts from Absor stating that they are fixing the very bugs that are troubling us. Patience is a virtue.

Pekk Darkleaf
10-07-2004, 05:08 PM
Doing things right the first time and testing before you put them in is a virtue as well =Þ

KiloraDraconis
10-07-2004, 05:20 PM
I am sorry for my above post about GM's. At the time I had only read the first page which I thought there was only one till I came back to see if any more info was here when I did notice there were more pages and read through them all.

Yes I do see they are working on the bugs and I do greatly appreciate it as well I am sure you all do. Again I am truly sorry for my comments.

/slaps self in head
/thinks she needs to pay more attention hehe

AbsorEQ
10-07-2004, 05:35 PM
Doing things right the first time and testing before you put them in is a virtue as well =Þ

Some things just don't show up until there are more people. Both the South Karana thing and the Feerrott thing only happened with more than one person there at a time. That was a risk we had to take if we wanted to keep the information quiet. And even so, we just can't catch everything.

Regardless, I apologize for the bugs.

A

Gusinator
10-07-2004, 06:02 PM
Absor Im having issues with Neira Farbreeze NPC in Surefalls Glade. Im KOS to her but i was told you can still do the quest while being kos to epic npcs. From what ive seen there isnt any way to even fix that particular faction. Can you please let me know if this is a bug(if the npc should still hand back items if kos) or if i should just forget about my epic all together :banghead:

Thanks Absor,
Gus

Prax
10-07-2004, 06:39 PM
Doing things right the first time and testing before you put them in is a virtue as well =Þ


Hey Pekk.... http://www.leftcorner.com/swg/ff/ff6.htm

I'm very far from being an SOE apologist, but I've been very impressed with Sony/Absor's attention and response on epic bugs.

Tinsi
10-07-2004, 06:57 PM
Absor Im having issues with Neira Farbreeze NPC in Surefalls Glade. Im KOS to her but i was told you can still do the quest while being kos to epic npcs. From what ive seen there isnt any way to even fix that particular faction.

What particular faction is she on, anyway? Alla's has nothing, and (ahem) I've been told (ahem) that she gives no faction hit when killed, so can't find out that way either.

I'd like to know, actually :)

Moonshae
10-07-2004, 07:21 PM
Another bug I see people mention once and thats it, is the Toxx Skelly bug. I have done this part of the quest 4 times and 3 out of the 4 times the pathing on the skellys was bugged. They do not come back to their starting spots or the important one who talks is stuck outside on the wall. Absor could you please look into this. Major frustrating to spam for 30 minutes and get nothing in return.

Palidinaya
10-07-2004, 07:31 PM
A lot of people are doing these quests right now, and so people will be packing up behind the events. But these quests have such short respawns on the events that waiting really shouldn't be a problem, no matter how uber you are.


This is meant to be my source of humor... please just laugh at it.
Absor are you referring to the endless hours in South Karana or the endless in The Ferrott =P

Seriously I was frustrated when I posted my last post... I am, like I said before, Happier then a pig in doo doo that these are being looked into.. Just not being looked into on my time frame =)

The other thing that irks me.. is Absor I was told is a halfling! Absor is this true?!?!?

AbsorEQ
10-07-2004, 08:10 PM
Another bug I see people mention once and thats it, is the Toxx Skelly bug. I have done this part of the quest 4 times and 3 out of the 4 times the pathing on the skellys was bugged. They do not come back to their starting spots or the important one who talks is stuck outside on the wall. Absor could you please look into this. Major frustrating to spam for 30 minutes and get nothing in return.

I couldn't get this to happen to me, but I changed the pathing a bit and that might help. I don't know when this will be patched.

A

AbsorEQ
10-07-2004, 08:14 PM
This is meant to be my source of humor... please just laugh at it.
Absor are you referring to the endless hours in South Karana or the endless in The Ferrott =P

Seriously I was frustrated when I posted my last post... I am, like I said before, Happier then a pig in doo doo that these are being looked into.. Just not being looked into on my time frame =)

The other thing that irks me.. is Absor I was told is a halfling! Absor is this true?!?!?

:)

Actually, Absor is a Half-Elf.

Palidinaya
10-08-2004, 12:46 AM
Is it fixed!!!?!?!? OMG TELL ME NOW! =P

Bierce Portalwalker
10-08-2004, 01:23 AM
Actually, I'm not sure if this could be seen as a fix, as much as a patch to the problem in Toxx until the pathing issue is fixed entirely. I did the Toxx event once and the skeleton that starts the event script/hands you the rune, got stuck up on the zonewall. Of course, this resulted in a loss and caused me to burst into a fit of mild-rage, like any normal person would have done. So, I waited 2 hours and went and talked to the script starting skeleton on the wall, even though his pal had returned to his spawn point the cave to Paneel. Sure enough, he allowed me to go through the script as if he was standing at his spawn spot, I sat there for the 30 minutes and that time, they pathed back correctly into the cave and I recieved my rune.

Honestly, once everything is fixed and set up like it should be, I don't see any portion of this quest being that large of a pain to complete.

Palidinaya
10-08-2004, 02:13 AM
Thats just it... the bugs are a pain =) More then a pain... You get a whole raid force together for the final part and have to tell them sorry for wasting their time because it is bugged. ... Thats what makes this so frustrating...

Lhila
10-08-2004, 11:08 AM
Are there still issues with the Ferrott combine? I was the only person in the zone last night, did the combine and got the first set of text. I responded with who are you and got absolutely no response whatsoever. I submitted a petition and did a /report with the text on my screen...../shrug Guess that's what I get for getting the animating heads scroll on the first try.

Vekx
10-08-2004, 01:11 PM
If one happens to solo kite the SK mobs but only was able to kill/loot 2 of them before the third despawned will one be able to respawn the mobs to get the third? Can any druid that has spawned them AND looted all 3 crystals be able to spawn them again?

If not, would I need to start over with epic 1.5? Or has this also not been included in testing? Can a druid get the crystals 1 at a time? etc?

Macnbaish
10-08-2004, 03:11 PM
Don't know if your pathing changes are live yet in Toxx Absor but today on MT.. not 30 minutes ago I finally gave up after resetting the event 4 times.. The one skelly got stuck on the outside wall to the left of the tunnel every single time :(

KiloraDraconis
10-08-2004, 03:31 PM
Hmmm I am from MT and I didnt have a problem with the Toxx part of epic. Skeleton pathed fine when he came back and handed me the piece.

I havent tried today since they brought down servers for 15 minutes so still dont know if the SK coven is fixed yet.

Faustina_Shinzon
10-08-2004, 05:06 PM
I just want to know when Kithicor will be fixed on Morell Thule...

Gusinator
10-08-2004, 05:42 PM
Neria Farbreeze isnt listed under any faction your right. Which kinda ticked me off more than i was when i found out i couldnt start my epic. When i harmonied her and tried to hand in my piece(part given after u turn in rathe mountains forage in SK) she ate it! She hates mah that much. I been a bad druid in the past sure, but I deserve an equal shot at finishing my epic LOL. I thought it was from killing Tunare a few times with my old guild but im not even kos to PoG so it cant be it. Ive tried fixing lots of different factions but no luck as of yet. Absor PLEASE tell me how i can be KOS to a NPC that isnt on a faction list? LOL Thanks.

:rolleyes:

karbacth
10-08-2004, 07:12 PM
They should have just made these quest like NToV.

Put a Gatekeeper mob right at the beginning of the quest, something almost as hard as the final encounter. Then you wouldnt have to worry about people who cant complete the epic getting in your way.

Or you can just hope that every druid at a camp for this epic has his sites on finishing this quest as best he can. I see where your coming from. It is frustrating to sit behind someone in a camp that you know wont be completeing the epic for a while, buts thats just the nature of the game.

Stormhaven
10-08-2004, 08:03 PM
<b>Please note that this is a reference thread!</b>

Any side discussions about ubers vs casuals and generic "this sucks, test more" type comments will be removed from this thread.

Firemynd
10-09-2004, 12:54 AM
I've completed every step, up through speaking with Gravelady Beddia in the 'evil' side of PoK. She replied with the text as described in the walkthrough.

Problem.

I went to Pathfinder Arelat and hailed him (got his normal text), then said "what corruption of the night" and got the expected reply as described here. However, when I said "it is worth it" -- he replied with this:
Pathfinder Arelat says 'I am afraid that I do not see honesty in your eyes. I can not give you the texts you seek.'

I am positive I've done all the steps leading up to this point. I had even spoken with the high elf NPC in FM before triggering the goblin event, just to make sure I hadn't missed any hidden progression flags. When I went to Gravelady and Pathfinder, I had the "Wrapped Mangled Head" on me, just in case that was needed to trigger the correct responses.

Anyone else run into this problem? If so, how did you resolve it?

~Firemynd

Vekx
10-09-2004, 01:18 AM
If one happens to solo kite the SK mobs but only was able to kill/loot 2 of them before the third despawned will one be able to respawn the mobs to get the third? Can any druid that has spawned them AND looted all 3 crystals be able to spawn them again?

If not, would I need to start over with epic 1.5? Or has this also not been included in testing? Can a druid get the crystals 1 at a time? etc?

Ok - I went back and repeated most of epic up till SK part except the Qenos FF which I will prolly do again (3rd time). Still no luck in SK =(.

karbacth
10-09-2004, 01:46 AM
I had the "Wrapped Mangled Head" on me, just in case that was needed to trigger the correct responses.

Anyone else run into this problem? If so, how did you resolve it?

~Firemynd
Is the wrapped mangled head the container? cause if its not you missed a step.

You have to hand the wrapped head item back into Niera to get the mangled head container. Then you can finish this step. If you have the container, I have no idea whats wrong.

Pulvani
10-09-2004, 01:48 AM
Firemynd,

Another druid in my guild had the same problem you did. We surmised that the problem was that he went further ahead in the walkthrough and got a couple items *before* talking to the NPCs in POK (i.e., he went out of order). He had completed all the steps up to that point, including hailing all of the NPCs in the walkthrough up to that point. I had already passed that point and gotten my books so I tried to do it again, but got the "I do not see honesty in your eyes" remark. Did you go farther ahead?

Heeroot N`Run
10-09-2004, 11:07 AM
If Absor is still reading this thread can we get some kind of update on when the Kithicor spawn will be fixed? Also, why can't GMs be more responsive to resetting or repopping the zone since this is a known bug. The responses to petitions are less than desirable.

Iglacias
10-09-2004, 04:54 PM
yeah, i've petitioned twice and the gm's say they aren't allowed to do anything... my question is, if the dev that wrote the quest in question has confirmed that its a bug, why are they not allowed to do anything?

Rosenkind
10-09-2004, 07:01 PM
If one happens to solo kite the SK mobs but only was able to kill/loot 2 of them before the third despawned will one be able to respawn the mobs to get the third? Can any druid that has spawned them AND looted all 3 crystals be able to spawn them again?

If not, would I need to start over with epic 1.5? Or has this also not been included in testing? Can a druid get the crystals 1 at a time? etc?
hello,

have exactly the same problem. no clue how to solve it. GM told me that he cant help and so i sent a bugreport.

Hope to find a solution soon. No clue how to spawn them again. Delete 2 crystals and letter and satrt again in South Qeynos?

Cant udnerstand why GMs cant help here.

HAd to do skelli-event (stuck in wall), combine in ferott and madman event twice, because of bugs/errors. NOw i have to do SK twice, Thats so frustrating.

Please try to solve our problems, THX

greetings
Rosenkind Blumengarten
<Tod und Teufel>

Dornar
10-09-2004, 07:36 PM
My guild on Fennin Ro managed to successfully spawn the Blackened Treant last night in Kithicor (Friday 10/8/2004 at about 9:00pm edt) -- Congratulations on your new staff, Crylyn Tearbringer.

HOWEVER, today, at 6:15pm edt, we set up to do the event again for my epic. I have have done all the steps, in their proper order, from the very beginning. The Blackened Treant would not spawn for us (Saturday, 6:15pm edt 10/9/2004 - Fennin Ro).

This event should have a 90 minute respawn for a fail and a +/- 110 min respawn for a success. It should have an emote to signal that the event is starting, or some other indicator that the encounter is working as intended. One should not have to stand around wondering if the event is on respawn timer, or if the event is broken, or if the event is even fixed.

When you have to gather 20 to 25 people for an event, it is very disheartening to tell them -- sorry, must be broken again.

Edit: We tried again at 9:30pm on Saturday evening on the hope that the event's respawn timer was complete. It did not spawn.

Test 1 -- All raid members moved into the zone, then druid with trigger device zoned in and went to the northern lake area -- no spawn
Test 2 -- Only the druid moved into an empty (no other players) zone and went to the northern lake area -- no spawn
Test 3 -- Only the druid moved into an empty zone, targeted myself and moved to northern lake area - no spawn
Test 4 -- Waited until after 8pm game time (true night time, after the 'evil' zone spawn had occurred), targeted myself, and moved into an 'empty' zone -- no spawn

Giving up in disgust for a week to see if we can get this fixed.

Aluaeia
10-09-2004, 08:04 PM
hello,

have exactly the same problem. no clue how to solve it. GM told me that he cant help and so i sent a bugreport.

Hope to find a solution soon. No clue how to spawn them again. Delete 2 crystals and letter and satrt again in South Qeynos?

Cant udnerstand why GMs cant help here.

HAd to do skelli-event (stuck in wall), combine in ferott and madman event twice, because of bugs/errors. NOw i have to do SK twice, Thats so frustrating.

Please try to solve our problems, THX

greetings
Rosenkind Blumengarten
<Tod und Teufel>

Solution: Agro all 3 coven mobs so that they don't despawn.

Vekx
10-09-2004, 09:21 PM
Solution: Agro all 3 coven mobs so that they don't despawn.


I did. Was kiting all 3 AND their pets. At 4AM game time the last one was nowhhere to be found. But that's not really the problem since there are many reasons why this could happen such as someone going LD. The problem is what are our options at this point. Will they respawn for us again? Do we need to restart the epic at some point? Do we need to destroy the 2 crystals we have? Do we sit in that 'waiting line' and hope they spawn for another druid but it's our turn, kill the one we need and leave?

I haven't heard of 1 druid on my server getting a spawn for several days now. The same druids are always back there praying to get a spawn. And since we can't tell if the reason is a bug or our situation or what, it's just more wasted time without any real way to decide what to do next.

As for a statement by Adsor that this couldn't be tested out very well due to trying to keep it secret..... you can't tell me that all these zone problems couldn't have been found if you used 2-3 druids when testing. I'm a programmer and would never test anything with just one of anything. You can't tell me there are not 100's of characters avail to test. But basically what they should be saying is... wait while we finish writing OoW.

tanyenwoodelf
10-09-2004, 09:38 PM
I've completed every step, up through speaking with Gravelady Beddia in the 'evil' side of PoK. She replied with the text as described in the walkthrough.

Problem.

Pathfinder Arelat says 'I am afraid that I do not see honesty in your eyes. I can not give you the texts you seek.'

I When I went to Gravelady and Pathfinder, I had the "Wrapped Mangled Head" on me, just in case that was needed to trigger the correct responses.

Anyone else run into this problem? If so, how did you resolve it?

~Firemynd
Yea. I had the same problem. In the writeup it is missing a step.
You get the Wrapped Mangled Head from combining Mangled Head inside the Wash Cloth.

Need to give Neria the Wrapped Mangled Head. She will return a new Mangled Head (2 slot container).

You will need the new Mangled Head to talk to Pathfinder Arelat.

Sianni
10-09-2004, 11:26 PM
Are there still issues with the Ferrott combine? I was the only person in the zone last night, did the combine and got the first set of text. I responded with who are you and got absolutely no response whatsoever. I submitted a petition and did a /report with the text on my screen...../shrug Guess that's what I get for getting the animating heads scroll on the first try.


I had this problem - I was invis. You can't be invis when talking to the spirit.

Lagadin
10-10-2004, 02:20 AM
Yes I also would like to know when they are going to fix the event in kith its still very much broken. I finaly got enough ppl together after trying for 5 freaking days to get ppl to help and the dang thing was buged. All this is just really starting to get to me. I am with the other druids here the GMs need to spawn the event or something this is just rediculas. :curse: :mad:

Rosenkind
10-10-2004, 03:40 AM
Solution: Agro all 3 coven mobs so that they don't despawn.
Btw, me aggroed all 3. All were snared and rooted (pets too). I have no clue what happend. Perhaps snare run off and me was out of range?!? maybe.

And I did not say that I didnt something wrong. I only want to know, waht to do now. Destroy items (note + 2 crystals) and restart? Or wait and hope or ....

So please hold the good advice for yourself, when you have no clue how to solve the problem we have.

THX

Kilmanna
10-10-2004, 03:47 AM
This is some logs that I gathered from tonight when speaking with a GM from Stormhammer. I had petitioned after not being able to get it to spawn from when I spawned it and wasn't in time to kill it when it despawned on Friday Afternoon.

[Sat Oct 09 22:37:07 2004] Scopitus tells you, 'Hmm. Are you ready to try it now?'
[Sat Oct 09 22:37:19 2004] You told Scopitus, 'Yes! I got it spawn actually yesterday.'
[Sat Oct 09 22:37:23 2004] You told Scopitus, 'So I know I can do it.'
[Sat Oct 09 22:37:33 2004] Scopitus tells you, 'And it spawns when you walk by the lake?'
[Sat Oct 09 22:38:10 2004] You told Scopitus, 'Well, it did yesterday but I was checking to see if it was still being weird and I got it and had people come and it despawned. So I tryed twice yesterday to get it and it wouldn't spawn and I know for sure no one else had been in there.'
[Sat Oct 09 22:38:23 2004] You told Scopitus, 'You have to have a peice of epic in order to have it spawn so not just any random person can do it.'
[Sat Oct 09 22:38:36 2004] Scopitus tells you, 'Okay. Let me check some things. Can you wait a few moments?'
[Sat Oct 09 22:38:42 2004] You told Scopitus, 'Yes I can.'
[Sat Oct 09 22:38:49 2004] Scopitus tells you, 'Thanks. Be right with you then'
[Sat Oct 09 22:58:02 2004] Scopitus tells you, 'I figured out what the problem is.'
[Sat Oct 09 22:58:11 2004] Scopitus tells you, 'But, I cannot tell you how to do the quest.'
[Sat Oct 09 22:58:16 2004] You told Scopitus, 'lol'
[Sat Oct 09 22:58:30 2004] You told Scopitus, 'Okie...so your saying it isn't broke...'
[Sat Oct 09 22:58:31 2004] Scopitus tells you, 'What I can tell you, is that this stage of the quest is working.'
[Sat Oct 09 22:59:06 2004] Scopitus tells you, 'However, if you did spawn the dragon before, then you aren't able to now because something is different'
[Sat Oct 09 22:59:12 2004] Scopitus tells you, 'Something about you is different'
[Sat Oct 09 22:59:24 2004] You told Scopitus, 'Dragon?'
[Sat Oct 09 22:59:26 2004] You told Scopitus, 'You mean Treant?'
[Sat Oct 09 23:00:38 2004] Scopitus tells you, 'All I can say is to review what you did and had and how you acted when you were able to spawn the...treant. Sorry, not dragon'
[Sat Oct 09 23:01:08 2004] Scopitus tells you, 'I can tell you without a doubt, should you walk to Kithicor right now, the treant will not spawn.'
[Sat Oct 09 23:01:27 2004] You told Scopitus, 'Okie why is that though, it not reseting?'
[Sat Oct 09 23:01:59 2004] Scopitus tells you, 'No, everything is working with the quest, but you don't currently fulfil the requirements for the treant to make an appearance'
[Sat Oct 09 23:03:10 2004] You told Scopitus, 'OKie so I have to go back and redo a part that makes me flagged to spawn it. But how will I know if it able to work if he isn't spawnable?'
[Sat Oct 09 23:03:13 2004] Scopitus tells you, 'There is another possibility, one I cannot confirm - perhaps someone else caused the treant to appear last time. Were there any other druids working on the same quest at the time?'
[Sat Oct 09 23:03:37 2004] You told Scopitus, 'Only Budre at the time and he got the Treant as soon as the server came up yesterday/'
[Sat Oct 09 23:03:45 2004] Scopitus tells you, 'He will spawn if you meet the requirements. I'm truly sorry, but that is all I can tell you'
[Sat Oct 09 23:03:51 2004] You told Scopitus, 'I keep a firm check on the druids that are working on it so I don't drag people to a waste.'
[Sat Oct 09 23:03:58 2004] You told Scopitus, 'I saw no one else in there all day.'
[Sat Oct 09 23:04:47 2004] You told Scopitus, 'OKie if I was able to get the requirements now would he spawn for me if I entered the zone?'
[Sat Oct 09 23:05:00 2004] You told Scopitus, 'Is the quest reseting properly though once you activate him and don't kill it?'
[Sat Oct 09 23:06:31 2004] Scopitus tells you, 'As far as I know, yes.'
[Sat Oct 09 23:08:50 2004] Scopitus tells you, 'I have been told that the developers are investigating possible timing bottlneck issues. I don't know anything about it. But I can tell you that you, as you are right now, cannot spawn the treant'
[Sat Oct 09 23:09:54 2004] You told Scopitus, 'Okie if I was to do something though'
[Sat Oct 09 23:10:01 2004] You told Scopitus, 'Would you be able to tell me if I was flagged for it?'
[Sat Oct 09 23:10:28 2004] You told Scopitus, 'Since you able to say I am not currently flagged for it I don't see why if I did this part if it were to say I was flagged and you able to tell me it..'
[Sat Oct 09 23:11:50 2004] Scopitus tells you, 'I can't really tell you other than that the requirements are very specific and purposefully complex.'
[Sat Oct 09 23:17:17 2004] You told Scopitus, 'Druids will rise to beat someone up if they all have to keep going through this lol'
[Sat Oct 09 23:17:57 2004] Scopitus tells you, 'Hehe. If that happens, remember I was the GM that tried to help'

After this I went back to Abysmal Sea to see if perhaps I could turn in my Crystal again to Leafdew and get some "flag" and go back but that didn't work. The other theory atm is that after you fail you have some kind of failure flag attached to you and you can't do it for X amount of time. Other then this I have no clue what else it could be and according to the GM everything is working properly.

Ormus
10-10-2004, 04:40 AM
IMO, the GM was not informed too well. Yes, the Kithicor event is buged, no, NO ONE can trigger the treant atm on any server if there has been a failed attempt or a druid as gone to kithicor just to spawn him and see where he spawns then let it depspawn. The GM at the time did not even know if it was a dragon or treant that we was looking for. Sorry, this event is bugged.

Absor, any idea on a fix date?

Sianni
10-10-2004, 05:58 AM
To get around the current bug, my friends and I ended up doing the following.

1) Make sure the Hasty Note is in a free slot in your inventory - not in a bag
2) Have your friends (if you are not soloing) wait in Lake Rathe
3) Zone into SK after 10pm, and do not be grouped. Ensure you are the ONLY PERSON in the zone.
4) Wait for mobs to spawn at midnight, then tell your friends to come in.

Engage the mobs and hope you stay alive until your friends get there.

Seems that to make them spawn you a) need to have the note IN YOUR INVENTORY (not in a backpack etc) and b) be the only person in the zone.

Hope that helps until a fix is ingame.

Ormus
10-10-2004, 10:23 AM
I dont know if this is the fix, but my note was in the invintory was well, and the only person the zone at the time.

Bruddarr
10-10-2004, 03:52 PM
Notsure if anyone else had this problem. Its just a minor bug really. I was in North ro and the indiff con madman was already up. I went through the text and started the event. A haunt spawned and i killed him. Then another haunt spawned and i killed him, then a spirit spawned kill him, then a guardian tormentor spawned, then a lamenting knight. I dont know if anyone else got the haunt to spawn twice in a row, but Geadin still gave me the soul stone.

Ebany
10-10-2004, 04:45 PM
I also got 2 haunts in a when i did mine.

Rosenkind
10-10-2004, 07:17 PM
AFter 2 more attempts to spawn the coven I can say it dont work with note in inventory and people in zone. The people didnt leave zone, because they dont want. ;(

Me thinking perhpaps it would help to destroy note and 2 crystals and begin new in SQ, but not sure if that helps.

GM couldnt help and no clue if i get an anwser on /bug.

I hope we get an anwser to the SKcoven problem soon.

greetings
Rosekind Blumengarten
<Tod und Teufel>
[Tholuxe Paells]

Firemynd
10-10-2004, 08:01 PM
Whew, almost forgot to follow up on this.

Need to give Neria the Wrapped Mangled Head. She will return a new Mangled Head (2 slot container).

I had combined the wash cloth, but I hadn't given the mangled head BACK to Neria after that, so that was the missing step. Wish it had been a little more clear (the quest itself, not the walkthrough). Come to think of it, this quest isn't really tied together well in a few places. The "clues" are so obscure I can imagine one person would've been lost in a sea of possibilities if actually trying to solve this quest on his/her own.

It was nice to give the community something to work on together, but such a shame quests in EQ only seem to come in two flavors: either the NPCs tell you exactly what to get and where to get it from, or they leave you with so little information that it takes a lot of people working together. There doesn't seem to be much in between.

Anyway, I'm long past the pathfinder... just wanted to post here and maybe help others who missed the same minor step I did. :)

~Firemynd

Aluaeia
10-10-2004, 08:15 PM
Having the note in top inventory and being alone in the zone aren't required to spawn the SK coven, when I got mine there were 3 people in zone, and my note was in the bank.

Garowen
10-10-2004, 10:56 PM
Having trouble getting the coven to spawn, have 2 crystals so far, because someone was killing them, and only wanted 1 mob. So he let me loot the other 2. I figured this would be a great idea, because it would be much easier to solo if I only needed the one, and if I had a druid friend, I could have them come and get the other 2. Now under no circumstances will the coven spawn. My first experience with the coven they killed me in under 20 seconds, with a good root, snare, and HT and DD spells. it wasn't funny, took me 10-15 seconds to pop, and they had despawned. I sit in SK for every spawn I can and they NEVER pop for me. We need these mobs to spawn under less stringent conditions, or a clear idea how to get them to spawn for us once we botch it, or if we have some of the crystals already. PLEASE HELP US ABSOR

Caniniel
10-10-2004, 11:28 PM
I too have the same problem you do, Garowen. I am pretty sure I know what the problem is with the SK coven spawn. A person before me got 2, and then the third depoped on them. They camped and camped and then we had a server reset. They got it to spawn the next spawn, and they told me I could loot 2 since they already had 2 and just needed one more. I did, and ever since then, I have not had anyone get it to spawn. I have camped this for close to 30 spawns, many in a row, and never been able to spawn them. I think that somehow, if you dont loot them all yourself, you somehow bug it and it seems, as of now, the only way to reset it is a complete server reset. I would be interested to know how many other people have had this same thing happen. I know we have been trying to track down exactly what the bug(s) are and now, it seems to me, that we might have a somewhat clearer picture of one.


Caniniel 70 Natureguard
Luclin Server

Taeana
10-11-2004, 01:03 AM
I had a raid force in Kithicor, and of course the treant didn't spawn. I petitioned, and the GM responded that the quest was working as intended and that I should be more patient. So I repetitioned and mentioned that Absor had posted that the quest was indeed bugged, and the GM actually came and read the forums and repopped the zone for me. Unfortunately, he did it while I was at work and by the time I got home and got another raid force together, another druid had entered the zone and the spawn was bugged again. :( No other druid won the event, so I'm assuming one zoned in to check the spawn or ran through on the way to somewhere else and didn't kill it. I guess I'll just hope that a fix goes live on Wednesday's patch, if not sooner, as it's frustrating to keep dragging a force down to try it. =/

Aethdarr
10-11-2004, 01:38 AM
Any updates on the SK event bug? Agree with the others posting on it atm...cant really take anyone out there to help when you dont know if its going to spawn or not. Its prolly soloable but....was tehre twice tnite doing exactly what others have done..and nothing. And I have done all of the quest up to that point.

Any answers yet?

weepingwillow
10-11-2004, 01:42 AM
RE: coven not spawning issue:

My first attempt, I went solo.. failed to keep all 3 engaged. one depopped and looted 2 crystals.

waited 110 minutes.. then waited for 12 am gametime.. no spawn.

deleted the hastey note.. killed a furative figure.. no note!

deleted the 2 looted crystals, re did the hail in abysmal sea to mrs leafdew... 110 minutes later.. a furative figure popped, dropped note.

went to SK. 10 pm gametime I egressed. gated back to camp. grouped with my 3 friends...coven pops! we mez 2 and kill one... the 2 mezzed depop.

destroy note, crystal.. wait 110 min.. kill a furative figure in qeynos. get " fresh" a hasty note.

wait 110 minutes in sk.. then wait til l12 am gametime. coven pops! I keep 2 engaged while my 3 friends focus on the third. kill all 3.. no more coven fights.

hope this helps solve your coven not popping issues.

Rosenkind
10-11-2004, 04:32 AM
Thx Weepingwillow,

will try this today after work. Hopeing that this helps. Now i have hope again. :dance:

Ashkar
10-11-2004, 07:22 AM
:( I spent a couple hours foraging in RM to get the Sickly Maiden's Hair, ran over to Althele (she cons warmly) and handed her the foraged item and she would only hand it back. She said something about it being diseased. I didnt get a *tuft of Sickly Maiden's Hair. Any one have any idea's? I have epic 1.0 equiped.

Ashkar Garou
Mithaniel Marr

Rosenkind
10-11-2004, 09:42 AM
Do it like Weepingwillow wrote and u get the 3 crystals. Did it 5 minutes ago. THX ww )

Megn Summer
10-11-2004, 10:16 AM
Coven spawn.

I did the event twice. The 1st time I sat there and nothing happened.

The second time I read the hasty note. Coven popped like clockwork. TOld my guildies about it and they read the note. Coven popped.


READ THE NOTE!

Garowen
10-11-2004, 11:03 AM
RE: coven not spawning issue:

My first attempt, I went solo.. failed to keep all 3 engaged. one depopped and looted 2 crystals.

waited 110 minutes.. then waited for 12 am gametime.. no spawn.

deleted the hastey note.. killed a furative figure.. no note!

deleted the 2 looted crystals, re did the hail in abysmal sea to mrs leafdew... 110 minutes later.. a furative figure popped, dropped note.

went to SK. 10 pm gametime I egressed. gated back to camp. grouped with my 3 friends...coven pops! we mez 2 and kill one... the 2 mezzed depop.

destroy note, crystal.. wait 110 min.. kill a furative figure in qeynos. get " fresh" a hasty note.

wait 110 minutes in sk.. then wait til l12 am gametime. coven pops! I keep 2 engaged while my 3 friends focus on the third. kill all 3.. no more coven fights.

hope this helps solve your coven not popping issues.Going to be trying this tonight, lets get some tests in on it, I'm hoping it wasn't a coincidence.

Question: did you get the 'the mind crystal grows warm message' again when you got near the fugitive?

Vekx
10-11-2004, 12:02 PM
Going to be trying this tonight, lets get some tests in on it, I'm hoping it wasn't a coincidence.

Question: did you get the 'the mind crystal grows warm message' again when you got near the fugitive?


Just deleted my 2 crystals and note. Went to SQ and FF was up. I DID get the crystal message. Killed and got note. Heading to SK to see if covens spawn

Macnbaish
10-11-2004, 01:07 PM
Immediately after killing the furtive figure and looting my note I went to sk rings at waited. Precisely at midnight the coven spawned.. I snared them all and rooted them.. stayed close so they would keep aggro, dotted them all to death one at a time. Wish I could give you more info than that but mine seemed to go as intended :(

Caniniel
10-11-2004, 01:58 PM
Thank you WeepingWillow, as you have kind of proved my point that it has something to do with having 2/3 crystals. I'm glad that you were able to come up with a possible fix to make it spawn without a server reset. I will be trying this tonight and will post as to whether or not I can get it to work on my server. = )

Caniniel

Pradera D`Estrellas
10-11-2004, 03:49 PM
Is there anyone looking into the clicky effect on the epic? I haven't gotten it to stick on anything so far because it's so easily resisted :P So, I haven't seen what it actually does either lol

Is it supposed to be highly resistant? I'm not complaining if it is...just curious :)

Thanks!

Pradera D

Tiane
10-11-2004, 03:57 PM
Is there anyone looking into the clicky effect on the epic?

Apparently, yes. See: http://thedruidsgrove.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9900

weepingwillow
10-11-2004, 05:56 PM
Going to be trying this tonight, lets get some tests in on it, I'm hoping it wasn't a coincidence.

Question: did you get the 'the mind crystal grows warm message' again when you got near the fugitive?
yes, when I destroyed the note.. and killed the a furtive figure again.. I got the message from the mind crystal growing warm.

what I forgot to post was.. yes YOU MUST READ THE NOTE.

Caniniel
10-11-2004, 07:02 PM
Well, so far, on Luclin server at least, I have followed all the steps, and still not had one coven spawn, and I've been here for 3 spawns so far since redoing that part. = ( I know 30 spawns is less then what I have actually camped this for, but I sort of lost count after 30. I hope this is fixed in the patch on Wednesday, or at least a clear cut way to fix the quest should you fail to complete it the first time.
Caniniel

AbsorEQ
10-11-2004, 09:39 PM
I'm sorry to report that the coven spawn won't be fixed until the patch Wednesday morning.

No, reading the note doesn't make any difference, though I find that to be an amazing conclusion. :)

A

Himegimi
10-11-2004, 09:49 PM
Absor is the Kitchor spawn gonna be fix by Wed patch?

Aluaeia
10-12-2004, 02:09 AM
Kithicor has been fixed since before your post Himegimi.

sorrowsong
10-12-2004, 06:19 AM
Kithicor has been fixed since before your post Himegimi.

I know quite a few druids have successfully done kithicor part now. But last night, I led my raid there to attempt it. As i play in asian time zone, I was sure that the 4-5hrs before i attempted it, no other raid was there. But of cuz..the treant didnt spawn...and the last succesful raid there was a few days ago. Unless the respawn time after each successful attempt is 4days or more, then i think it is still bugged

nieros
10-12-2004, 06:28 AM
It may be you need to be a in a raid now to spawn it so it doesnt just get blown by random druids running through the zone ?

Jettair
10-12-2004, 09:52 AM
The note makes no difference, i had read it, had it open, had it in the first slot, etc,etc. You just got lucky is all

sorrowsong
10-12-2004, 11:58 AM
nm what i said, they brought the zone down 2hrs after my attempt

weepingwillow
10-12-2004, 12:08 PM
The note makes no difference, i had read it, had it open, had it in the first slot, etc,etc. You just got lucky is all
I guess the other 2 druids(from this thread alone) this worked for, that tried everything else and failed to get the coven to pop, just got lucky too.:whistle:

Garowen
10-12-2004, 12:40 PM
I guess the other 2 druids(from this thread alone) this worked for, that tried everything else and failed to get the coven to pop, just got lucky too.:whistle:
Tried your strategy at getting the coven to pop, and its a no go, did your instructions step by step, and there was no pop for the 4 eq nights I sat there.

/sigh

Guess I have to wait till wednsday.

Ikatsu
10-12-2004, 12:51 PM
(I know this is a bit late to respond on but here are my experiences this weekend)

The mad man event spawned 2 "a haunt"s for me like a few others have reported earlier in this thread.

I also had problems with the skeletons in tox forest. They wandered off like normal and I did the singing bit. At the end of the event the "Abandoned heretic pet" came back and gave me the bertox line, I replied with the "I am on the job" line and he stated that I could not be on the job because I did not have the right tool (not exact words but basically what he said) I had not change anything since the last time he showed up. I ran outside the cave and both skeles were stuck, one just outside the entrance and one up on the hill. The skeleton at the entrance was singing the "Yo Ho. No sun!!" bit of his song and the other skele on the hill was singing his part. I talked to him again and started the event up it gave me a message about duplicate lore items not allowed (I still had the pik axe from before equipped). Before I could get back into position the heretic pet shouted to the zone that the skeles had been slacking (the failed to respond to the heretic with "I am on the job" line) and the skeletons ran back to their start positions cussing me out. I started up the event again and it ran through perfectly.

Garowen
10-12-2004, 01:01 PM
(I know this is a bit late to respond on but here are my experiences this weekend)

The mad man event spawned 2 "a haunt"s for me like a few others have reported earlier in this thread.

I also had problems with the skeletons in tox forest. They wandered off like normal and I did the singing bit. At the end of the event the "Abandoned heretic pet" came back and gave me the bertox line, I replied with the "I am on the job" line and he stated that I could not be on the job because I did not have the right tool (not exact words but basically what he said) I had not change anything since the last time he showed up. I ran outside the cave and both skeles were stuck, one just outside the entrance and one up on the hill. The skeleton at the entrance was singing the "Yo Ho. No sun!!" bit of his song and the other skele on the hill was singing his part. I talked to him again and started the event up it gave me a message about duplicate lore items not allowed (I still had the pik axe from before equipped). Before I could get back into position the heretic pet shouted to the zone that the skeles had been slacking (the failed to respond to the heretic with "I am on the job" line) and the skeletons ran back to their start positions cussing me out. I started up the event again and it ran through perfectly.
When I got my scroll, I went in both skellys in position, waiting for the pet to come over and prove event was on track, so I started the event and they left. I did my singing, and after the 30 min window, 1 skelly returned, the wrong one, (left side, facing zone line.) I didn't know what to do since it didn't give any new quest text. then the pet returned and said the same thing he did to you about the tool. so I exited the cave, and there was the other skelly stuck on the lip. I DESTROYED the pick (figuring the quest completed while I Was inside and the skelly was out of range to give the quest item. so I started the event right where the skelly was stuck, and he gave me a new pick. this unstuck him and he and his friend left, I ran back to the spot and started the event again, this time The OTHER skelly got stuck and the right one returned finishing the quest.

Garowen
10-12-2004, 01:03 PM
Tried your strategy at getting the coven to pop, and its a no go, did your instructions step by step, and there was no pop for the 4 eq nights I sat there.

/sigh

Guess I have to wait till wednsday.
Oh, and I did get the warm crystal message, and a new note from the FF in SQ. but nothing just ever popped at the ring.

weepingwillow
10-12-2004, 01:07 PM
Did you destroy any crystals looted from a previous failed attempt garowen.?

Did you bind near the coven spawn site, egress at 10 pm gametime and gate back?

can you be positively sure no other druid did this event while you left the zone to kill the " a furative figure"?

Garowen
10-12-2004, 01:24 PM
Did you destroy any crystals looted from a previous failed attempt garowen.?

Did you bind near the coven spawn site, egress at 10 pm gametime and gate back?

can you be positively sure no other druid did this event while you left the zone to kill the " a furative figure"?
all were destroyed, did the egress and gate back. No druids did the event while I killed the FF, as it was not midnight at the time, and It took less than 15 mins including travel time to get the FF. I sat at the ring for the next 3 EQ nights, on one night a druid and her group came up and stood on the spawn location even though I asked them not to, and told them the event was camped, they just said ok, and stood there untill midnight passed, then ported out. Absor says the 'bug' will be fixed on wednsday, looking at the other epic fixes, I hope this one is done on the same level.

Aislynne
10-13-2004, 05:51 AM
Hold the note on your cursor before it turns midnight...maybe its a fluke but it worked for me and everyone else I told to do it.....worth a shot.

Windrex
10-13-2004, 08:54 AM
Something I have tried a few times. Have had some degree of success in trying this. (worked 3 out of 4 attempts)

Have a druid, carrying the hasty note, bind themselves near the druid rings. Have them Exodus AFTER 11pm, then immediately gate back. For whatever reason, this seemed to have worked 75% of the time. There may have been some slight difference to the timing. Not quite sure what caused it to work/fail the times they did. Not really a sure-fire solution. But seemed to do something!

Garowen
10-13-2004, 01:22 PM
Has anyone tried the Coven since the fix today?

Ormus
10-13-2004, 05:46 PM
The right click on the epic, Nature's Blight is still not working, or if it is working, not sure what it is supposed to do. Looking it Lucy I would guess that it is a +5% DD focus debuff. I have tested this taking off my DD focus items, casting Sylvan Fire, that has a base damage of 1705, landing the nuke for 1705, then casting the epic on the same mob and the nukes still landing for 1705.

I am also concerned about the resist rate on the right click, most named resist it. Also, would like to see an increase range to cast it. In my events we as druids are not in melee range of the mob, we like keeping some distance to advoid AEs, rampage, ext. Right now have to be pretty close to the mob to be able to cast it.

One thing I like about the epic is the graphic on the icon after you have casted it, shows the timer till when you can cast it again.

Pradera D`Estrellas
10-13-2004, 06:51 PM
Is there anyone looking into the clicky effect on the epic?

Apparently, yes. See: http://thedruidsgrove.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9900 (http://thedruidsgrove.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9900)
Thanks :) The only reason why I asked is because it appears that both posts on two different boards that I've read, have only been people asking the same kinds of questions and debating whether or not the effect is useful. I haven't seen a single response from a dev yet that our epic effect is being looked into. It's absolutely not working at all and it is resisted half the time I try to use it anyway. These two things are major issues that need to be looked into. I was hoping for some kind of response that someone is.

Pradera

Koldriana
10-14-2004, 07:02 AM
Last night we had a guild group go into CT to help one of our rangers with his sickly mosquito quest. On the way we happened to stop for some Piranah meat. During the fight 3 people got summoned and STUCK at Location is 412.00, -5.00, -117.00 in the water.

We were unable to cast and were stuck sitting. We couldn't shrink or duck to get out. The first time we had to evac to get unstuck - the second we happened to have a mage along to coh the stuck player. This happened to THREE of us within a 1 hour time period.

It looked like we were stuck under the world or something - regardless, its a bug with our epic because if you get summoned, thats what happens to you.

Anyone else seen this?

Vian
10-14-2004, 07:02 AM
Has anyone tried the Coven since the fix today?

Yup spawned at midnight without any problems

Ormus
10-14-2004, 08:47 AM
Last night we had a guild group go into CT to help one of our rangers with his sickly mosquito quest. On the way we happened to stop for some Piranah meat. During the fight 3 people got summoned and STUCK at Location is 412.00, -5.00, -117.00 in the water.

We were unable to cast and were stuck sitting. We couldn't shrink or duck to get out.

Anyone else seen this?Yes, happened several times for me when I was getting my drop, would get summoned unto a wall and not be able to cast. Happened to a few other guildies as well. Not sure about that loc, happened to us at few different places in the zone.

Zephaus
10-14-2004, 08:49 AM
Re: the Coven event, was with another druid last night who was trying it, he got them to spawn fine on his first attempt, but he failed to kill the 3rd member in time, and the next midnight they did not come back. Neither of us stuck around to see if they would spawn the following midnight.

But it doesn't appear to be every midnight, at least not after a failure.

Garowen
10-14-2004, 11:14 AM
Well I finally got the coven after only a small incident, seems the spawn is fixed.

Vixzen
10-19-2004, 10:38 AM
I believe the madman event is bugged. When I found the madman two haunts spawned and none of the other npc's, waited an hour and nothing happend. I logged off and came back 4 hours later and started over again with Marsheart. I waited an hour for madman to spawn. Nothing is happening.

Thanks,

Golthine Gettinwood
10-19-2004, 01:36 PM
Yesterday, I tried for the second time to do the Goblin Hider Event (The first attempt I tried at the wrong gametime). I killed the Hider, and when I looted his corpse, it was empty, at which point TWO more hiders popped. I thought only one hider was supposed to pop? Has this also changed? I didn't have enuogh time to go after the other two, and the petion box was ironically enough, bugged. Just wondering if anyone else has had this happen, and if I should expect this on my third try.

Tasslin
10-19-2004, 01:44 PM
1 hider spawns when you start the event, as time goes on more spawn....
So, if you took to long to kill him, then you got the wrong hider, and I hear that may cause more to spawn as well...
You have to track and kill the absolute 1st hider that spawns, or you have to sort through them.

I have noticed that the hider usually (when I was doing it) teleports around the map, but usually re-visits his 1st spot, when I stood in the center it seemed like every 30 seconds trakc direction would change, then it would start back at the beginning and spin artound the zone again....

I thought of having some people up around the zone and track them all as they spawned, and writing down the Loc's.... eventually he should teleport onto one of those loc's and you can kill him by waiting at a loc without running around.

But by the time more spawn, they could TP onto the loc you wait at... so it's lazier, but also not foolproof.

nieros
10-20-2004, 04:38 AM
A strange bug :

One of the druids in my guild is stuck at the skele event in tox.
=Not= for the pathing reasons, but every single time she gets half way through, the skelly walks up to her and says 'how are you ment to be working without the proper equipment' ( or words to that effect )

Er... but she does have the mining pick in her hand.
Nothing in off hand.
Running through it exactly the same way as everyone else.

For some reason, it refuses to see her pick.

Any ideas on that one ? Her toon name is Valeriae : tribunal server.

Cheers,

Tasslin
10-20-2004, 11:29 AM
This happened to me because some other druid on my server came by and wanted to "test" his hotbuttons DURING my script...
after about 53 minutes, the heretic pet would say that to me, and the skelly... so I waited another few mins and 1 skelly spawned back at his spot, and the skelly you talk to pathed back into the cave, not all the way to his spot, but kinda got stuck because the heretic pet was in his way...

So I just destroyed my 1st pick, and started the script over....
after 1:45 mins of this whole ordeal I got my animating heads scroll.

Make sure noone else is in the zone, or says any of the lines as they can switch the flag to themselves and screw up the 1st person's script.

I guess it's not just the pick but there is a flag saying that you have the pick.

Jali
10-20-2004, 12:07 PM
Another druid in my guild had the same problem you did. We surmised that the problem was that he went further ahead in the walkthrough and got a couple items *before* talking to the NPCs in POK (i.e., he went out of order). He had completed all the steps up to that point, including hailing all of the NPCs in the walkthrough up to that point. I had already passed that point and gotten my books so I tried to do it again, but got the "I do not see honesty in your eyes" remark. Did you go farther ahead?

I have this problem also :
I already have combine my runed skull and now it is too late to Hail Pathefinder Arelat. Do you know how your guildmate fix it .... just doing again the first part I guess :cry: :cry: :cry:
I have a ticket running where I try to know what is the invisible flag (a character flag or the wrapped mangled head that neria gave us back ) but not sure I will have an answer as GM are very quiet when it is about epic quest

Jalila

Garowen
10-21-2004, 11:19 AM
A strange bug :

One of the druids in my guild is stuck at the skele event in tox.
=Not= for the pathing reasons, but every single time she gets half way through, the skelly walks up to her and says 'how are you ment to be working without the proper equipment' ( or words to that effect )

Er... but she does have the mining pick in her hand.
Nothing in off hand.
Running through it exactly the same way as everyone else.

For some reason, it refuses to see her pick.

Any ideas on that one ? Her toon name is Valeriae : tribunal server.

Cheers,
what probably happened is she did the quest the first time, and it got screwed up, and she kept the pick. you need a new pick every time you try, destroy and get a new one, or it wont work.

Ikatsu
10-21-2004, 01:12 PM
what probably happened is she did the quest the first time, and it got screwed up, and she kept the pick. you need a new pick every time you try, destroy and get a new one, or it wont work.
Not true, I had to re-do the event once and kept the same original pick from the first time and it worked. I got this message when the skeletons had pathed wrong and were saying the "idle" text (Yo ho. No sun!! etc). After I got the event started again I was able to finish it successfully with the original pick from the first time I tried (I did the event 3 times with the pick given from the first set of text).

Siara
01-04-2005, 12:47 AM
I'm not sure but is the Kith event bugged again? we tried to do it tonight and the blackened treant never spawned....

WTB a fix for this if it is broken again