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07-19-2006, 05:40 PM
I've been trying to accumulate changes the US should make in place of building a wall on our southern border, which, in my eyes, is a last resort action.
We don't see too much of this type of talk in these forums. Feedback regarding the issue in general, this specific plan, or points therein would be appreciated.
A Comprehensive Plan: My compilation so far.
1. Fine employers who hire illegal and bring criminal charges against them. This would need to be done in a serious manner, with Government actually investigating employers. Every DHS agency would need to be employed in this effort, along with local law enforcement. Instead of making it illegal for employers in many states to ask about citizenship, make it mandatory to do so with federal legislation. Do this consistently and across the boards, and eventually employers will stop hiring illegals and without jobs, the current Illegals will gradually leave.
The opposite of this is done now. Several federal agencies have basically indicated that if employers do scrutinize documents too much, they’ll be slammed with discrimination suits. Yes, you read that last part right – employers are basically told by the Government that they’ll be sued if they actually try and follow our immigration laws!
2. Arrest and deport illegals. Supporters of illegal immigration create this strawman claiming that you can’t arrest 11 million people. You actually don’t have to. What you do need to do is seriously go about pretending that we don’t know where illegals are, and consistently and methodically begin arresting and deporting them. Not 11 million, no big concentration camps, just one by one, if you see an illegal, arrest him and then deport him.
Once you create a situation hostile to illegals living openly (see e.g., illegals holding rallies draped in Mexican flags while law enforcement looks on and does nothing), then those illegals you haven’t arrested begin to gradually leave.
All the while, however, Give existing residents partial amnesty: Those that have become successful enough to prove income, residence, pay back taxes, and are verified non-criminals should be offered a probationary term with specific employment and 'no more than one misdemeanor' terms. Upon completion they can be offered either long-term residence or citizenship. I've purposefully left out specific lengths of time, although they should be specified in such a program. This is a one-time exception clause, not an ongoing program for those who bypass controlled channels in the future.
3. Let Border agents do their jobs. Although increasing the size of the Border Patrol would help, the real problem is that they basically can’t do their jobs. Illegals caught by them are basically just released, if they’re allowed to actually search and detain illegals in the first place.
4. Cut off aid and cooperation to Mexico until they stop promoting illegal immigration. Yes, this will piss Mexico off, but the American people are pissed off by their disregard of America’s laws and sovereignty. This would include expedited extradition and not leave the option for Mexican nationals to run home when facing prosecution.
This increase in the transparency of law enforcement applies to both points 3 and 4.
5. Institute a Guest Worker program: Since Big Agriculture has been subsidized for decades by illegal immigration, and Americans are unlikely to want to spend three-to-four times as much for orange juice and twice as much for lettuce, among other crops, provide a means to allow seasonal workers into the country. This gives us the best of both worlds: Big Ag stays local, labor stays cheap, and the government gets taxes. This program can be used to earn permanent residence through time and strict criteria. A gradual, monitored, transitional program used to bring the competent into our society while fulfilling the needs of Big Ag.
6. Reallocate Financial Aid: America spends almost nothing on foreign financial aid, despite what you hear in election years. Ninety percent of it goes to Israel and 90 percent of the remainder goes to Egypt. Invest heavily, massively, in the Mexican economy, coupled with a requirement that the Mexican government is truly accountable to its residents and that elections be transparent and fair. People are leaving their families and traveling to a foreign land because their home doesn't offer them the economic opportunities they want.
7. Give preferential treatment to the educated: Those with 2 year degrees and above should be offered an accelerated citizenship program. This policy would help fulfill our need for an educated workforce.
We don't see too much of this type of talk in these forums. Feedback regarding the issue in general, this specific plan, or points therein would be appreciated.
A Comprehensive Plan: My compilation so far.
1. Fine employers who hire illegal and bring criminal charges against them. This would need to be done in a serious manner, with Government actually investigating employers. Every DHS agency would need to be employed in this effort, along with local law enforcement. Instead of making it illegal for employers in many states to ask about citizenship, make it mandatory to do so with federal legislation. Do this consistently and across the boards, and eventually employers will stop hiring illegals and without jobs, the current Illegals will gradually leave.
The opposite of this is done now. Several federal agencies have basically indicated that if employers do scrutinize documents too much, they’ll be slammed with discrimination suits. Yes, you read that last part right – employers are basically told by the Government that they’ll be sued if they actually try and follow our immigration laws!
2. Arrest and deport illegals. Supporters of illegal immigration create this strawman claiming that you can’t arrest 11 million people. You actually don’t have to. What you do need to do is seriously go about pretending that we don’t know where illegals are, and consistently and methodically begin arresting and deporting them. Not 11 million, no big concentration camps, just one by one, if you see an illegal, arrest him and then deport him.
Once you create a situation hostile to illegals living openly (see e.g., illegals holding rallies draped in Mexican flags while law enforcement looks on and does nothing), then those illegals you haven’t arrested begin to gradually leave.
All the while, however, Give existing residents partial amnesty: Those that have become successful enough to prove income, residence, pay back taxes, and are verified non-criminals should be offered a probationary term with specific employment and 'no more than one misdemeanor' terms. Upon completion they can be offered either long-term residence or citizenship. I've purposefully left out specific lengths of time, although they should be specified in such a program. This is a one-time exception clause, not an ongoing program for those who bypass controlled channels in the future.
3. Let Border agents do their jobs. Although increasing the size of the Border Patrol would help, the real problem is that they basically can’t do their jobs. Illegals caught by them are basically just released, if they’re allowed to actually search and detain illegals in the first place.
4. Cut off aid and cooperation to Mexico until they stop promoting illegal immigration. Yes, this will piss Mexico off, but the American people are pissed off by their disregard of America’s laws and sovereignty. This would include expedited extradition and not leave the option for Mexican nationals to run home when facing prosecution.
This increase in the transparency of law enforcement applies to both points 3 and 4.
5. Institute a Guest Worker program: Since Big Agriculture has been subsidized for decades by illegal immigration, and Americans are unlikely to want to spend three-to-four times as much for orange juice and twice as much for lettuce, among other crops, provide a means to allow seasonal workers into the country. This gives us the best of both worlds: Big Ag stays local, labor stays cheap, and the government gets taxes. This program can be used to earn permanent residence through time and strict criteria. A gradual, monitored, transitional program used to bring the competent into our society while fulfilling the needs of Big Ag.
6. Reallocate Financial Aid: America spends almost nothing on foreign financial aid, despite what you hear in election years. Ninety percent of it goes to Israel and 90 percent of the remainder goes to Egypt. Invest heavily, massively, in the Mexican economy, coupled with a requirement that the Mexican government is truly accountable to its residents and that elections be transparent and fair. People are leaving their families and traveling to a foreign land because their home doesn't offer them the economic opportunities they want.
7. Give preferential treatment to the educated: Those with 2 year degrees and above should be offered an accelerated citizenship program. This policy would help fulfill our need for an educated workforce.