View Full Forums : Cenarion :: Yay or nay?


Trixtaa
08-11-2006, 06:15 AM
Hrm. I'm still wondering if I shuold bother trying to get full Cenarion or wait out until I can get Stormrage?

http://ctprofiles.net/1676093

Thats my profile. I may be getting a Sash of Mercy (Belt :: 53 +healing) soon so consider that as well.

So basically, is Cenarion that good of an upgrade for me? Seems to have noticeably less +healing but maybe I'm not thinking outside the box.

Aedui
08-11-2006, 10:21 AM
Cennarion aint that blast one would hope regarding healing, but some peices got that fire resist that you need on Geddon and Raggy, and some have mana regen.

You may still wear some of the ZG droped or quested pieces as they are actually better for healing, I still wear my Zanda chest and use the molten helm to cover FR(passed the Cen chest to a fellow druid less equiped).

With no or little FR you most likely wont pass Razor, down Onyxia or Ragnaros so you wont see much Stormrage, unless your guild/raid group cover your burning butt ;)

Around 130 -150 FR is recommended for a healer on Onyxia and Ragnaros, +200 imo if you are feral assigend and melee.

It will take some time to get the SR so you'll see alot of cenarion drop before you have a chance on SR, atleast thats my xp.

Best of Luck

Aedui

Create resurrected
08-11-2006, 12:59 PM
The regen alone makes it worth it for caster-focussed druids.

The FR is necessity, as has been stated. While you can get the FR in other ways, you will sacrifice significant stats in order to do so. In fights like Rags, despite Cenarian's FR, you'll still sacrifice a few slots for more FR.

In 40 man things can get a bit chaotic if you're not dedicated to an MT or MT group, thus hurting your efficiency a bit with misplaced/sniped heals. Stats and regen compensate for this better than +heal, IMO.

+heal is more effective in 5-man situations, where you need to dish out alot of HP to the group quickly, and are willing to sacrifice some longevity to do so.

+heal still has a definite place in 40-man. If you and a priest are assigned to a target-specific MT heal, massive +heal lets you cast low-ranked, extremely efficient 1.2-1.8k HT's successively, near indefinitely, thus covering the consistent damage, and allowing the priest to just smooth out damage spikes. How's that for a run on sentence?

Our main tanks were aiming at 300+ FR for MC. By MT's, I mean our top two or three choices.

After reviewing your gear, you sit extremely high on the +heal in comparison to base stats. +368 heal!! Not suprisingly, you sit right about where I did coming into MC. That's a good thing, as you're at the extreme and my blurb above will make alot more sense once you get more Cenarian.

Mix +heal's effect on low-ranked HT's with the longevity provided by Cenarian to fit the demand of the group/situation.

Yakiniku
08-11-2006, 03:26 PM
This is just one opinion. Get your T2 set pieces as soon as you can. If you happen to get full cenarion in the meantime, great, but the set bonuses aren't the greatest on T1. I like maxing +healing gear as long as my other stats don't get too gimped. Remember that you'll be fully raid buffed and have other healers to back you up too.

As for the FR, its nice, but not the most important for a healing class. +healing is still king b/c you'll be better able to heal through any fire damage you take. I only use my full FR gear for Vael, Rag and Ony. And I only do so b/c I don't gimp my stats too much by switching into it (i lose about 100 healing, 20int and 10sta).

Rockwell
08-11-2006, 04:59 PM
Alot of it depends on what kind of guild your in or where your guild is at.

If your guild is clearing BWL and you just happen to be a new member... then waiting for SR isn't that bad of an idea.

If your guild is just starting MC, then Cen' is a must.

Personally, having both options, I generally wear ZG armor over Cen'. The Haupserx garb has more +healing, similiar stats... but, the Cenneraion Chest and Belt are bagged for FR gear.

Your +heal maybe will suffer some, but overall your performance should benefit... particularly with the FR pieces.

Create resurrected
08-11-2006, 05:09 PM
Alot of it depends on what kind of guild your in or where your guild is at.

If your guild is clearing BWL and you just happen to be a new member... then waiting for SR isn't that bad of an idea.

If your guild is just starting MC, then Cen' is a must.I think you really hit the nail on the head, there.

Trixtaa
08-14-2006, 12:41 AM
Thanks for all the input thus far and now I am hopefully investing in a few more cenarion pieces. :)

JWK
08-14-2006, 09:17 AM
My recommendation would be to take it as it comes, but if you're in a DKP system of any sort...I would bank on SR Legs. MC has long been on farm, but now my guild has abandoned it and it's not even on the schedule. There are a lot of classes that didn't get their tier2 legs and now must work in an itemization plan.

In the scope of things, there are only 7 days in a week. ZG, AQ20, MC, BWL, AQ40, and Naxx. Not everyone can do all of them in a single week. So, if you can hold out for SR legs and then just take what comes as it comes.

just my $0.02

Yakiniku
08-14-2006, 09:57 AM
My recommendation would be to take it as it comes, but if you're in a DKP system of any sort...I would bank on SR Legs.

Glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks this. I am also in a guild that has moved on from MC. It took me a long time before I got my SR leggings. If you're a healer, and you're still running MC, save the dkp for the leggings and cauterizing band (maybe even a choker of enlightenment). Good rings/neck pieces are hard to come by.

goa
08-18-2006, 09:16 PM
nay! it looks ugly :p

Darkkilla
08-22-2006, 05:19 AM
Cernarion is a pretty weak set, and the main reason why is because this set was made before alot of the healing items from ZG/AQ20 even existed.

But the cernarion gloves, belt, chest and helm are all worth getting due to the fire resist on them. As for boots and legs the animists out of ZG are great to stick with and the ZG bracers + Chest combo is good way to go.

I would suggest getting Wild Growth Spaulders and Stormrage Legs ASAP out of MC, these 2 pieces are gonna last you for a very long time.

And +healing is the best thing to focus on atm, it doesnt matter how much mana per 5 you get or max mana its not gonna keep up with the amount of mana high ranks of HT cost or the cost of regrowth.

I would suggest aiming to get your rank6 HT to a 1000+ heal asap, and then when your picking up more stormrage try and get your rank4 HT to around 900-1000.

I currently use rank 3 & 4 HT as my main heals and my rank 4 heals for about 1300 (for 166mana) and my rank 3 heals for about 800 (for 99mana).