I was wondering could anyone do the math, and see what would be druids maximum crit chance
with the current best gear and gems?
It doesent have to be balanced at all considering other stats... Im just wondering what would be the highest possible crit chance for a feral druid.

The formula is:

Crit cap (percentage) = 100 - [glancing blow chance] - [chance to miss] - [chance to be dodged] - [chance to be parried]

If you get the hit cap (142 hit rating) and the expertise cap (89 expertise rating), your attacks will never miss and never be dodged or parried. Therefore only your glancing blows would be a problem.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Glancing_blow

This states that glancing blows on mobs above your level (eg raid bosses) is "about 20%".

So if you are hit capped and expertise capped, your crit cap would be 80%.

Something quite interesting happens if you reach 80% crit, expertise cap, and hit cap; you will never do a normal hit.
Because of the way WoW maths works with tables, you will only ever get glancing blows and critical strikes.

If you have 0 hit rating and 0 expertise, your crit cap against a raid boss would be:
100 - 20 - 9 - 6 = 65%.


Also note that the above only applies to your white damage.
Your special abilities such as mangle and shred will never glance.
Therefore if you reach the hit cap (79 hit rating for these special attacks) and expertise cap, your crit cap for mangle/shred/etc is 100%.


-Annikk (yea baby, its good to be home !)

A useful page here that talks about the expertise cap.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Expertise

Expertise against Bosses

A Boss-mobs parry is increased by 0.04 for every point of weapon skill it has over your level based defense, and its dodge is increased by 0.04 for every point of level based defense it has over your level based defense. At level 70 you have 350 level based defense. At level 73 a Boss-mob has 365 level based Defense and Weapon Skill, giving it 0.04*15 additional parry and dodge %. Meaning it gains 0.6% to Dodge and Parry. Ontop of it's base 5% parry, this gives a total of 5.6%. To negate 5.6% dodge and parry 23 points of expertise (or 89.7 points of expertise rating) are needed.


However, an Elitist Jerks rogue guide disagrees, and claims the cap is 103 expertise rating.

http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t16940-roguecraft_101_a/


Yet another EJ post suggests 91 expetise rating.

http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t18865-working_theories_theorycrafting_2_3_a/

Second entry from the bottom of the "Melee" section.

Your mileage may vary, I guess.. I plan to start stacking expertise until I stop seeing dodges in WoW Web Stats readouts.


-Annikk

Thats not exactly what i was asking... i did read most of those posts on EJ, i was just wondering what would be our highest attainable crit chance with the gear currently available ingame...

I was lazy in doing this

http://shadowpanther.net/ provides Rogue PVE Armor spreadsheets, I used them and the 'Tcrit' value he provides to find the highest crit value on each item.

Here are the Results
POSITION> NAME> TCrit> TAGI>
Head: Cursed Vision of Sargeras 2.69% 39
Neck: Adamantine Chain of the Unbroken 1.36% 0
Shoulder: Razorfury Mantle 1.74% 28
Chest: Midnight Chestguard 2.08% 0
Belt: Vindicator's Leather Belt 1.68% 33
Legs: Leggings of Murderous Intent 2.80% 45
Boots: Vindicator's Leather Boots 1.68% 33
Wrists: Vindicator's Dragonhide Bracers 1.50% 22
Gloves: Liar's Tongue Gloves 1.31% 0
Ring1: Band of the Ranger-General 1.27% 0
Ring2: Vindicator's Band of Triumph 1.18% 0
Trinket1: Battlemaster's Cruelty 1.81% 0
Trinket2: Tsunami Talisman 1.72% 0
Back: Black Iron Battle Cloak 1.36% 0
RAW GEAR CRIT 24.18% (SotF AGI Crit Add = (167*0.03) = 5/40 = 0.125. 0.13%)
Total Including SotF = 24.31%

Enchants that Add to Crit:
Weapon: 35 AGI
Shoulder: Greater Inscription of Vengeance 10 CR
Chest: Exceptional Stats 6 AGI
Legs: Nethercobra Leg Armor 12 CR
Boots: Dexterity 12 AGI
Wrists: Stats 4 AGI
Hands: Superior Agility 15 AGI
Rings (Enchanter Only): Stats 4 AGI x2
Back: 12 AGI
=92 AGI and 22 Crit Rating
Weapon: Staff of the Forest Lord 52 AGI
148.32 AGI (SotF) and 22 CR

Enchants + Weapons 4.7%

29.01% Crit from Gear/Chants
+Natural 5% Crit (Probably a little off?)
+6% Sharpened Claws
+5% LoTP
_________________________________
45.31% Before ANY buffs
+0.63% from Adamantite Weightstone (14 Crit Rating Effects Feral Forms)
+AGI Totem/Blessing of Kings/etc.
__________________________________________________ __
Direct TCrit Ratings: Total Critical Strike %, calculated from Crit Rating and Agility. Not including Talents that increase Agility.

^SHADOWPANTHER's work, I just sorted it. This also DOES NOT include Druid Specific Pieces/Gear or Idols.

Its possible I fail completely at math also: so Stab me if I'm wrong.

Also: First Post. :)

I was lazy in doing this

http://shadowpanther.net/ provides Rogue PVE Armor spreadsheets, I used them and the 'Tcrit' value he provides to find the highest crit value on each item.

Here are the Results
POSITION> NAME> TCrit> TAGI>
Head: Cursed Vision of Sargeras 2.69% 39
Neck: Adamantine Chain of the Unbroken 1.36% 0
Shoulder: Razorfury Mantle 1.74% 28
Chest: Midnight Chestguard 2.08% 0
Belt: Vindicator's Leather Belt 1.68% 33
Legs: Leggings of Murderous Intent 2.80% 45
Boots: Vindicator's Leather Boots 1.68% 33
Wrists: Vindicator's Dragonhide Bracers 1.50% 22
Gloves: Liar's Tongue Gloves 1.31% 0
Ring1: Band of the Ranger-General 1.27% 0
Ring2: Vindicator's Band of Triumph 1.18% 0
Trinket1: Battlemaster's Cruelty 1.81% 0
Trinket2: Tsunami Talisman 1.72% 0
Back: Black Iron Battle Cloak 1.36% 0
RAW GEAR CRIT 24.18% (SotF AGI Crit Add = (167*0.03) = 5/40 = 0.125. 0.13%)
Total Including SotF = 24.31%

Enchants that Add to Crit:
Weapon: 35 AGI
Shoulder: Greater Inscription of Vengeance 10 CR
Chest: Exceptional Stats 6 AGI
Legs: Nethercobra Leg Armor 12 CR
Boots: Dexterity 12 AGI
Wrists: Stats 4 AGI
Hands: Superior Agility 15 AGI
Rings (Enchanter Only): Stats 4 AGI x2
Back: 12 AGI
=92 AGI and 22 Crit Rating
Weapon: Staff of the Forest Lord 52 AGI
148.32 AGI (SotF) and 22 CR

Enchants + Weapons 4.7%

29.01% Crit from Gear/Chants
+Natural 5% Crit (Probably a little off?)
+6% Sharpened Claws
+5% LoTP
_________________________________
45.31% Before ANY buffs
+0.63% from Adamantite Weightstone (14 Crit Rating Effects Feral Forms)
+AGI Totem/Blessing of Kings/etc.
__________________________________________________ __
Direct TCrit Ratings: Total Critical Strike %, calculated from Crit Rating and Agility. Not including Talents that increase Agility.

^SHADOWPANTHER's work, I just sorted it. This also DOES NOT include Druid Specific Pieces/Gear or Idols.

Its possible I fail completely at math also: so Stab me if I'm wrong.

Also: First Post. :)


First off, that's one HELL of a first post... thank you very much, and welcome to the board :)

secondly... it has been brought to my attention that there's a pretty serious improvement needed for my gear. I was thinking that i was doing fairly well with my ~36% chance to crit (fully buffed)... Looks like i better get steppin on the endgame content...