Sytaera
07-22-2008, 08:12 PM
Hiyo Gurus,
I apologize for the really long post. So after playing WoW on and off for a long time and randomly twinking out in a few brackets, I finally dinged 70 a couple of weeks ago. I spent the first weekend working on my epic flight form quest (which is really, really awesome, though the 5k gold it cost made me almost cry when I hit 'train'). I had a bunch of honor from twinking out in 59s so I went and bought most of my S2 gear with that. I've been told that I'm not supposed to really be doing PvE in my PvP gear, but I feel that my S2 epics are way better than any of the blues I got from doing instances.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ursin&n=Sytaera
Anyway, that's the gear I currently have, though for tanking I have two of the +170 armor ring from Durnhold and a +40 stamina, + something defense rating necklace. Anyway, I work a night shift so I'm not on to join any raiding guilds so this last weekend I started doing more instances and Sunday started pugging Heroics.
The first Heroic I tried was Ramparts. It was an utter nightmare. The thing that bothered me is that I didn't feel terribly undergeared since some of our DPS was in blues/greens but I hadn't been to ramparts in a couple of months and completely forgot all the pulls. My group was pretty patient and we did eventually finish it after many, many wipes. Then my friend wanted to run regular Mechanar.
I'd never been there before and it was like 4:30am by the time we got a group together. I warned of this. We wiped twice before the first boss, and the rogue in our group flipped out. I admit the second wipe was most definitely my fault as I pulled badly and grabbed a second group that I hadn't even realized was there (I couldn't see them from where I was standing). However the irritation towards me was pretty evident and a bit scary.
The problem I have is that I am only ever generally wanted as a tank. I have not been to half of these instances before. I have run a couple with my friend as a healer because I had a decent healing set but I realized after I never really paid attention to the pulls. So I've been trying pretty hard lately, but I still screw up. The thing is basically any wipe that's happened is generally blamed on me, whether or not I agree with it.
TL;DR - I seem to fail at tanking. I am a n00b. People get angry.
So I have some questions for the veterans. Is there some magical way to know about the way I'm supposed to pull every group? Like exactly how far, the LoS, along with any pats that might be nearby. Also the way I'm supposed to deal with CC. My groups the past couple of days have been marvelously bad with CC, so I find myself dying quite fast to three mobs smacking at me when the mage doesn't sheep. Am I really that undergeared? I'm going to work hard on my CE rep so I can get earthwarden but for now I just feel like I die so fast if our CC fails. Is there a trick to this? I do alright when the CC is good but otherwise it just becomes a nightmare. Yet my groups always seem to get mad at only me about it.
Also how does one tackle instances they've never been to before? Am I supposed to be doing research or something before I tank these places? I had always thought it was an experience thing but it seems there is very little forgiveness for mistakes. Last night I had a good natured group but we spent 4.5 hours in Hellfire Citadel between Ramparts and Blood Furnace. They even fired me as a tank during the middle of blood furnace and got a warrior while I DPSed (I did notice that didn't stop our constant wipes though as our hunter hated to CC).
Anyway, any help you can give would be great. I know I'm still pretty bad and make a lot of mistakes but I just feel like it's getting so pointless to the fact that I am half tempted to respec to resto because I find healing MUCH less trouble. Also where does one actually get epic PvE gear?
I apologize for the really long post. So after playing WoW on and off for a long time and randomly twinking out in a few brackets, I finally dinged 70 a couple of weeks ago. I spent the first weekend working on my epic flight form quest (which is really, really awesome, though the 5k gold it cost made me almost cry when I hit 'train'). I had a bunch of honor from twinking out in 59s so I went and bought most of my S2 gear with that. I've been told that I'm not supposed to really be doing PvE in my PvP gear, but I feel that my S2 epics are way better than any of the blues I got from doing instances.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ursin&n=Sytaera
Anyway, that's the gear I currently have, though for tanking I have two of the +170 armor ring from Durnhold and a +40 stamina, + something defense rating necklace. Anyway, I work a night shift so I'm not on to join any raiding guilds so this last weekend I started doing more instances and Sunday started pugging Heroics.
The first Heroic I tried was Ramparts. It was an utter nightmare. The thing that bothered me is that I didn't feel terribly undergeared since some of our DPS was in blues/greens but I hadn't been to ramparts in a couple of months and completely forgot all the pulls. My group was pretty patient and we did eventually finish it after many, many wipes. Then my friend wanted to run regular Mechanar.
I'd never been there before and it was like 4:30am by the time we got a group together. I warned of this. We wiped twice before the first boss, and the rogue in our group flipped out. I admit the second wipe was most definitely my fault as I pulled badly and grabbed a second group that I hadn't even realized was there (I couldn't see them from where I was standing). However the irritation towards me was pretty evident and a bit scary.
The problem I have is that I am only ever generally wanted as a tank. I have not been to half of these instances before. I have run a couple with my friend as a healer because I had a decent healing set but I realized after I never really paid attention to the pulls. So I've been trying pretty hard lately, but I still screw up. The thing is basically any wipe that's happened is generally blamed on me, whether or not I agree with it.
TL;DR - I seem to fail at tanking. I am a n00b. People get angry.
So I have some questions for the veterans. Is there some magical way to know about the way I'm supposed to pull every group? Like exactly how far, the LoS, along with any pats that might be nearby. Also the way I'm supposed to deal with CC. My groups the past couple of days have been marvelously bad with CC, so I find myself dying quite fast to three mobs smacking at me when the mage doesn't sheep. Am I really that undergeared? I'm going to work hard on my CE rep so I can get earthwarden but for now I just feel like I die so fast if our CC fails. Is there a trick to this? I do alright when the CC is good but otherwise it just becomes a nightmare. Yet my groups always seem to get mad at only me about it.
Also how does one tackle instances they've never been to before? Am I supposed to be doing research or something before I tank these places? I had always thought it was an experience thing but it seems there is very little forgiveness for mistakes. Last night I had a good natured group but we spent 4.5 hours in Hellfire Citadel between Ramparts and Blood Furnace. They even fired me as a tank during the middle of blood furnace and got a warrior while I DPSed (I did notice that didn't stop our constant wipes though as our hunter hated to CC).
Anyway, any help you can give would be great. I know I'm still pretty bad and make a lot of mistakes but I just feel like it's getting so pointless to the fact that I am half tempted to respec to resto because I find healing MUCH less trouble. Also where does one actually get epic PvE gear?