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08-25-2008, 10:01 AM
Over the weekend I was primarily a Kitty DPS'r in our Mag/Gruul's run (though I do tank one of the channelers in Mags). Gruul's is such a long fight, that I feel I really should be power-shifting to help boost my damage output.

At what point in the "Shred-to-5CP"-->Rip cycle should I powershift? How much (really how little) energy should I have before I should consider power-shifting? Less than 15?

We had a bear tanking Gruul, so I didn't have to waste energy keeping the Mangle debuff on Gruul. And, raid buffed, I had 45+% crit. So, I would often reach 5 CP well before the previous Rip had finished its cycle. I assume the best course of action is to continuing Shredding until Rip expires (or just before it expires), correct?

Also, I picked up 2T4 this weekend, does the 2 piece bonus effect generate any sort of UI notification when it occurs? Just wondering....

08-27-2008, 11:19 AM
You have to use an addon to really be able to notice it, because it's just a line in your combat chat that's easy to miss. I use Scrolling Combat Text and it's pretty obvious to me when I proc the T4 bonus.

08-27-2008, 11:30 AM
Weird. Other proc based effects (idol of terror) show up in the stock combat text. Wonder why this one doesn't. Looking back at my recount data, I do see that the effect is called "Bloodlust". Maybe it was there and I didn't see it.

08-27-2008, 08:19 PM
Check out the powershifting thread on EJ forums, will give you everything you need to know to adapt powershifting to your particular situation, including your latency.

08-29-2008, 08:07 PM
Powershifting will be removed, if the the change to Furor stays. At least, that is what I read (I don't have beta).

09-01-2008, 06:57 AM
I have honestly never used powershifting in a serious dps scenario. The timing needs to be really exact for you to get any real benefit from it, and what with latency and so many other considerations in a raid environment, such as your party's health bars, I've just found it a distraction and a waste of mana more than anything else.

I just don't feel like it's worth it for what is really a very small dmg increase.

With that said I do know some druids like to powershift, so if someone wants to provide an opposition argument to bring to this debate I would be very interested to hear what you have to say :>


09-02-2008, 01:55 PM
In a raid situation, and when one has most of their moves down to rote, power shifting provides mathmetician's the ability to see their DPS increase, or those who are bored a bit of interaction.

Yes you get a positive result DPS-wise if you trade Mana for Energy efficiently.

That said, I would hope that a well-oiled team would not need anyone to perform this maneuver unerringly to be victorious or to justify a spot in the raid for Kitty DPS. I'm a bit OCD so I think I'd do it out of boredom eventually. But I'd prefer not to.

IMHO, the real charm of powershifting is for movement impairing effects or to get off a rip / ferocious bite when energy is below 20. There's actually a macro, I believe on Elitist Jerks, that let's you establish an energy threshold and then exectue a script. Then when energy hits a certain floor and your mana hasn't gone below a threshold as well, it will automatically powershift. And I believe it has a coefficient for lag built-in as well. I'll poke around for it again, I really not into that level of automation...yet.

09-03-2008, 04:10 AM
On unimpaired back-of-the-boss cat form dps, I gained 180 dps from following the advice in the EJ thread on powershifting. The real trick is to manage your mana like a caster so you can powershift the entire duration of the fight. It's hella fun. Insta mana-pot macro ftw.

09-03-2008, 06:20 AM
That macro sounds pretty cool. I'd be interested to take a look at that, if you do manage to find it :>


09-03-2008, 06:08 PM anagement/

09-09-2008, 11:35 AM
That's the one. Thanks Oiysters! Been out in the woods camping. No internet. :nono: